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Originally Posted by cant wait View Post

Please help I want to buy a new dvd soon thanks

You might want to check out this thread.

SD DirecTV to HTPC?


I don't have the HDTV Directv setup but I have questioned the same thing about my DTivo with Directv. I think I am going to try to setup a HTPC.
post #932 of 8116
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Originally Posted by Brian I Am View Post

Geno I have another version of that case and I think you will be happy with it. Only pain is the cover mounting screws are on the bottom, and not the back like most cases. It's so so on the quite scale because of the two small fans, but if you go with a quite cpu cooler you will be good.

I couldn't find any cases on your website (I assume that is what you meant.) Perhaps you could send me a link or something. TigerDirect sold out of the case I wanted. Any suggestions you may have would be awesome.
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Hello, I am trying some PC games on my new 4805. The problem I'm running into is with the resolution at the PC set to 848x480 and games that you can set the resolution in the games options, there is no 848x480 setting. The game does not use the resolution I set for the desktop. Any ideas how to fix this?

Thanks
post #934 of 8116
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

Can anyone tell me the real-world differences between the Sony DVP-NS70H, Samsung DVD-HD941, Panasonic S27, Bravo 1 or 2? Are there advantages, features, or anythig else with the Oppo that aren't available or can't be achieved with any or all of these?
I have narrowed it down to these choices, but the decision is rather daunting without input from actual users or owners of the units. Thanks in advance for someone that can impress me with thier knowledge and expertise.
I would post this in the DVD section, but I will be using this with my 4805, so I would like an idea of which of these would work best in conjunction with the PJ. Plus, the DVD section is listed as standard def, and it seems members here have a wide knowledge of the Oppo in particular.

Not sure about the Samsung HD 941, but I could not get a Samsung DVD HD945 to work with my 4805. All I got was a blue screen. I think it was an HDCP issue. The player thought it was bing copied... and shuts off the video signal. I ended up returning it. I really gave it a shot.

My new Bravo D2 works great. The D2 drive motor is a bit loud though.

Good luck

DenM3
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Originally Posted by DenM3 View Post

My new Bravo D2 works great.

Congrats on the new player! Did you find it on eBay? Combien $$ ?

Are you using 852x480 on DVI w/Bob William's numbers?

Does the PQ live up to my hype?
post #936 of 8116
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Originally Posted by mces View Post

The problem I'm running into is with the resolution at the PC set to 848x480 and games that you can set the resolution in the games options, there is no 848x480 setting.

Are you using DVI or VGA?
post #937 of 8116
Looking to get the DVI-D to M1 cable from Monoprice.com for connection of Motorola DCT6412 to the 4805. Is this the one I want?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

I only ask because there was a DVD-I cable as well. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

Looking to get the DVI-D to M1 cable from Monoprice.com for connection of Motorola DCT6412 to the 4805. Is this the one I want?

That'll do just fine. Great price!! Don't forget to set the RGB Gains and Offsets to 58 and 28.5 respectively!

Making any progress on the DVD player front?
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the screen will roll down in a walkway so i need it to roll up when not in use, and not become wavy after many ups and downs

my ceiling is about 7.5ft, and i will ceiling mount (have the mount). my max distance is 13.5ft which infocus tells me i could manage a 106" image with zoom.

i've been running my 4805 in a different config, with a 92" screen and it is nice, but i wouldn't turn down an extra 14". but.....if y'all think i should avoid the zoom (or at least avoid using all of it), and go with a 92" screen, i'd consider it.

also, i'd like to avoid keystone and i like where the image sits without any tiling; but that is about a foot under my lense (which is about 4" from the ceiling) so the image is at about 16" lower than my cieling. thus, i'm not sure if i have to hang a roll-down screen from some cord to get it low enough?

anyway, i was looking at optoma graywolf and others. i REALLY don't want to spend much, so i'm looking for a budget deal on this.

buy.com has the 106" graywolf at $165 or so, but it's out of stock.

suggestions????? please help me it with exactly what to get and where to get it

also, the room will be completely light controlled most of the time, and i'll definitely run the 4805 in low-power mode (how could anyone EVER stand the noise of highpower mode????)

my only two sources are my sony ns50 dvdplayer (component 480i) and my xbox360 (vga>m1). i'll probably be using the xbox al little more than the dvdplayer, but they'll be pretty even in usage
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Not sure how you would avoid the screen from getting wavy. Most pull-down/pull-up would suffer from that to some extent. The 92" is considered the best diag. length. Going bigger may cause lost of detail or wash out colors (not sure, went with the 92" from the get go).
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so a few pages back I was asking if anyone knew whether it was possible to project thru glass, and what the effect on the image would be, well I finally got around to trying it this weekend.

I had a thin, clear piece from a door in an armoir I was dismantling. Right of the bat, there is no discernable change in image quality. In fact, you can run the glass in and out of the beam and you would'nt even know it was there if it weren't for the shadows from the edge. Then, after a few minutes, I swear the image improved with the glass in place. It seemed to lessen the screen door effect ever so slightly, and soften the image slightly as well. you never know untill you try.
post #942 of 8116
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

That'll do just fine. Great price!! Don't forget to set the RGB Gains and Offsets to 58 and 28.5 respectively!

Making any progress on the DVD player front?

I just got the 15 foot version of that same cable from Monoprice. If you haven't shopped there yet, I highly recommend checking them out. They have unbeatable prices on cables and related items.
post #943 of 8116
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Originally Posted by Bobby_K View Post

so a few pages back I was asking if anyone knew whether it was possible to project thru glass, and what the effect on the image would be, well I finally got around to trying it this weekend.

I had a thin, clear piece from a door in an armoir I was dismantling. Right of the bat, there is no discernable change in image quality. In fact, you can run the glass in and out of the beam and you would'nt even know it was there if it weren't for the shadows from the edge. Then, after a few minutes, I swear the image improved with the glass in place. It seemed to lessen the screen door effect ever so slightly, and soften the image slightly as well. you never know untill you try.

that would make sense due to some diffraction of the light. I think the same actually happens (plus more) with an ND2 filter thus SDE is reduced.
post #944 of 8116
MCES,
If you have the horsepower to run the game at 1280x720 then run it at that resoultion. The 4805 will recognize it as 720p.
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Man, I am nearly abusing my 4805 like I did my old X1 ....I got it on Black Friday and have about 200 hours on it already.

Hi Def is just killer....I am not sure why anyone would want a ND2 filter though..I shoot just a 6' wide screen and use Da-Lite High Power fabric to boot...granted my angles are no where near the 2.8 gain mark though.

I love basking my eyes in the brightness.
post #946 of 8116
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Originally Posted by James W. Johnson View Post

I am not sure why anyone would want a ND2 filter though..I shoot just a 6' wide screen and use Da-Lite High Power fabric to boot...granted my angles are no where near the 2.8 gain mark though.

I love basking my eyes in the brightness.

That's because you're using it as one big assed plasma TV.
No problem, but the trained theater types will tell you that it's WAY too much light.

-W
post #947 of 8116
I bought the nd2 filter and have my 4805 on way with a 92" Da Lite spectra 1.5 screen coming as well.

I will be projecting from about 14-15' back and sitting around 13.

Should I def be using the ND2 in low power mode?
post #948 of 8116
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Originally Posted by Clams Canino View Post

That's because you're using it as one big assed plasma TV.
No problem, but the trained theater types will tell you that it's WAY too much light.

-W

lol, yep its just like a plasma...a damn good one to boot.

What N2D part number are you guys buying? I'll buy one just to try out.
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Hoya HMC Filter Multi-coated 62mm (HOND2MC62)
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

Are you using DVI or VGA?

Yes I am using DVI to M-1.
post #951 of 8116
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Originally Posted by Gushy View Post

MCES,
If you have the horsepower to run the game at 1280x720 then run it at that resoultion. The 4805 will recognize it as 720p.

The game is running at 1280x720 on the 4805. But is'nt this defeating the whole idea of pixel mapping for the best picture quality.

By the way it looks very good at the 1280x720.
post #952 of 8116
Anyone had a look at the pq of the new InFocus 720p model yet?
post #953 of 8116
Yeah but pixel mapping a pc game to the 4805 makes it look bad. I tried running hl2 at that the native resolution and it was SOOOOOOOO jagged even with antialising cranked up. I don't quite understand how 720p to the 4805 reduces aliasing since it is scaled but it does.
post #954 of 8116
Uziah,

Any chance you want to do a diy screen? There are a couple guys doing diy roll ups in the diy screen section. They're using BOC or even painted vinyl. I think the boc and maybe thin flexible vinyl would lay fairly flat with some weight at the bottom. Cheap, but it will take some design effort. Both are available at Jo Ann fabrics or similar fabric stores.
post #955 of 8116
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Originally Posted by mces View Post

The game is running at 1280x720 on the 4805. But is'nt this defeating the whole idea of pixel mapping for the best picture quality.

By the way it looks very good at the 1280x720.

Pixel mapping is the best quality picture only if the source cannot provide more actual data.

For instance a DVD can never provide more actual information than the 854x480, so showing a higher resolution simply means somewhere along the line something has to guess what the extra dots should be made up of.

With a PC game you can actually provide more real data, thus nothing is guessing what should be there, but rather doing it's best to represent it with fewer dots.

So if you have 4 pixels of info and you show it using 16 pixels it doesn't matter. But if could somehow get 16 pixels of info, even if you only have 4 to show it all the better because you are essentially doing anti aliasing: rendering at a higher resolution and then showing at a lower one.
post #956 of 8116
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Originally Posted by Gushy View Post

Yeah but pixel mapping a pc game to the 4805 makes it look bad. I tried running hl2 at that the native resolution and it was SOOOOOOOO jagged even with antialising cranked up. I don't quite understand how 720p to the 4805 reduces aliasing since it is scaled but it does.

It's not pixel mapping that makes it look bad, its just running it at such a low resolution that does it.

If you pixel mapped at 1024x768 it would look pretty good.

Anti aliasing can help get rid of jaggies but at a very low resolution it just doesn't have much to work with. And remember anti aliasing creates info that can't really be displayed, so instead of getting jaggy stair steps, you get fuzzier averages of what the jaggy stair steps would have been.
post #957 of 8116
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Originally Posted by Devedander View Post

Pixel mapping is the best quality picture only if the source cannot provide more actual data.

Thankyou for the detailed explanation, you explained it perfectly.
post #958 of 8116
Hello, I was wondering if any Canadians have purchased a refurbished 4805 online. I assume you lose your warranty, but the big electronic stores have them for twice as much, so I would think it would still be a better deal even if you had to replace the bulb. Also, would anyone know how much duty would be for such a purchase?

Thanks.
post #959 of 8116
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Originally Posted by DenM3 View Post

Not sure about the Samsung HD 941, but I could not get a Samsung DVD HD945 to work with my 4805. All I got was a blue screen. I think it was an HDCP issue. The player thought it was bing copied... and shuts off the video signal. I ended up returning it. I really gave it a shot.

My new Bravo D2 works great. The D2 drive motor is a bit loud though.

Good luck

DenM3

i had no problems with my samsund hd 841 with my 4805. removed the hdcp though.
post #960 of 8116
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

Congrats on the new player! Did you find it on eBay? Combien $$ ?

Are you using 852x480 on DVI w/Bob William's numbers?

Does the PQ live up to my hype?


got it from www.asiachi.com. It was a floor model that had two hours time on it. They lived up to their promise!

Only you all would apprecite this..

I called the guy in L.A and asked him if he had any left. He says "I have one floor model"... and then says "you know, I had over 200 of these a while back and I could not even sell one. Then somebody says they have the best picture quality...and I literally shipeed all of them out in two days"

Have not really had time to fool with the player. Will report back.

DenM3
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