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post #211 of 1628
I thought i was going nuts until i realised you have the same problem. Until though i rang Panasonic and they tell me that the Xbox 360 runs in 60hz when in HD thats the reason why i dont get picture. The operator also told me that he had received several callls regarding the same Tv me and you have.

I Spoke to xbox360 hotline and they advised me that i could change the hertz to 50 in TV mode. By selecting PAL-50 in Display settings. I did so switch back to HD and again NO GO. I sincerely think that the 360 runs in 60hz when in HD and when looking around on the web apparently 50hz is the fastest a CRT tv can refresh in HD over 720P or higher. So it advised purchasing a PLASMA or LCD for faster refresh rate - (YES IF ONLY THEY TOLD US BEFORE...)

The best picture and same res as 1080i is changing your picture setting to 75/133. This will double the lines on the screen. Run the xbox 360 in TV mode but still use the composite inputs and you will notice that screen res and picture is just as good if not better then 1080i - 1920 x 1680 or so on. Notice the text of the games its much smaller and cleaner..

Let me know what you think...I hope i have made sense -
post #212 of 1628
Not really...

First off, I'm assuming that you're replying to Crono7's post, and his is the same TV you have? If so, neither of you specify in your profiles where you're from, and a search of Panasonic's global website doesn't find that TV model #. I'm assuming you're somewhere in Europe... If you find a link to the specs on the TV & manuals (preferably a direct link to the manufacture's website & specs), we may be able to figure out where the problem is.

The Xbox360 outputs HD resolutions via component cables in conformance with the ATSC Table 3 standard, which includes specs for 30 and 60 Hz refresh rates. I'm not sure where you got that a CRT can only refresh up to 50hz in HD resolutions, but I don't think that's accurate. CRT televisions in the US refresh at 60Hz, and CRT computer monitors can refresh at much higher rates. If you look at the last page of the Samsung TV Manual here, you'll see "Frequency of Operation" as 60Hz. You'll also see a message "A TV designed for one system may
not work properly with another system due to differences in the TV channel frequencies".

AFAIK, there is no 'HD' standard in Europe yet (I could be wrong), so any TV that is purchased in Europe would need to support the US-based ATSC to display 'HD'. Though you may be recieving a 'high definiton' signal somehow in 1080i @ 50Hz, that's not 'HD' in terms of the ATSC Table 3 standards. Even if there is a European HD standard, I'm fairly certain that the Xbox360 does not support it.
post #213 of 1628
I've had my 360 for about 90 days now and while playing Ghost Recon, the screen went black. I turned it off and turned it back on and got the dreaded 3 red rings of death. So I turned it off and uplugged everything and plugged everything back in a few minutes later. Everything was fine.

Last night I was playing the Tomb Raider demo, and it froze up again. Turned it off and on, 3 red lights again. Turn it off and on. Still nothing. Got frustrated and turned it off and on about 12 times. Green lights again! Watched streaming HD for a couple of hours with no problem.

The date on the back is Jan 17/06. Would this not have been a second or third manufacturing batch by then??


Should I send it in for service?

BTW, I bought it at Future shop and can't find my reciept anywhere (of course). Since it hasn't even been off the assembly line for 90 days, do you think Microsoft will give me a problem? Do they even have a depot in Canada?




Marc.
post #214 of 1628
I have the exactly the same problem as above (blank screen, 3 red lights, etc.)

Personally, I think it's a software issue. WHY, you ask?

Because I hardly ever play the 360, play for only 30-45 minutes at a time (been way to busy), and it's extremely well ventilated and have had zero problems since a particular date.

I think a firmware upgrade is causing these issues, which is why I'm hesitant on swapping out with another unit at EB (if I can find one).

Jasman
post #215 of 1628
Jasman, I think it's definietly not an overheating issue too, becuase I left it upplugged all night and it froze after 5 minutes while playing a game. The case and power supply were still cool. Yet when I got it restarted (after turning it on and off a dozen times), and it was all nice and warm, it played an HD video for 2 hrs without an issue. Afterwards, tried playing a demo , and it locked up right away. Strange

I'm really not looking forward to sending this thing in to Microsoft.....

Marc.
post #216 of 1628
My best guess is that their latest firmware or a specific game update is the cause of the problem.

Jasman
post #217 of 1628
I've had my 360 for a day. I thought I'd check in with the forum regarding an issue I've seen. It may be normal?

I downloaded the Oblivion trailer and I see that on camera pans, characters on horseback, etc....there is an occasional hesitation and lack of smoothness. I was thinking that this trailer would be optimized and the glitches could be on my end? I also notice on Profect Gotham, the crawling text has this same sort of hitch.

Is this normal 360 behavior? My unit is in a cool ventilated area.

Thanks!
post #218 of 1628
My xbox360 died today,three flashing red lights,no picture while playing COD.Got it in mid Dec. week before XMAS.Guess i gotta make the call to Microsoft.My problem is I never registered the thing.Kept trying to online at web site listed on back of manual but could never find the site.Wonder if i should sent paper reg. in before i call or just call now.Way out of warranty anyway.Anyone know what MS charges when 360 is out of warranty?
post #219 of 1628
I rented PGR3 from Gamefly and decided to give it a spin this afternoon, but I can't get it to boot up...the disc is in good shape, clean, no scratches. The first time I put it in the message on screen said "To play this disc, please place it in an Xbox 360" (something like that...). Now it won't do anything, I'm just stuck on the dashboard.

I've only had my 360 about 2 weeks and this is the first game I've tried to play other than Ghost Recon....any thoughts?
post #220 of 1628
I got a return 'ticket' number from MS on Friday night, and streamed HD video to the Xbox all weekend straight withought any lockups. It's just when I play a game. So it's definietly not an overheating issue. Very frustrating. Anyway, they are sending a box today, and assure me I'll have a new unti within 4 days of them getting the old one back. This is all I have to watch HD movies and TV. The wait will kill me. I can live without the game playing for a bit though.

Marc.
post #221 of 1628
I have a Samsung HC-R 4755W RPCRT that i bought about 6 months ago. My problem is that when using component cables set to 1080i, im seeing a very faint, 'white ghost' scrolling line about 4in wide moving from left to right quickly that is the size of my TV vertically. This was happening when viewing HD programs with my cable box via component cables they provided in 1080i. I made the switch to DVI & its gone. Now the Xbox360 does the same thing when set to 1080i. Only time you really notice it is during dark scenes of a game or if my dashboard theme is dark. If i switch to 720p, none of this happens.

I called Samsung today & they said it could be my analog board. But what i dont get is why doesn't it do this is in 720p? Then they said it could be something to do with the poor grounding in my apartment. I also admit that im using 2 crappy $20 surge protectors in one outlet & have about 6 electronic devices each hooked upto them. So could it be possible that when the 360 is set to 1080i, its pulling more juice & my protectors cant handle it? Should i buy an $80 Monster surge? Could it be a shielding problem, maybe buy the $60 Monster component cables? Or should i just let Samsung replace the analog board?<<Last resort since i have no trouble in 720p...Samsung said the TV has no native resolution, it can display 480p/720p/1080i w/out any type of converting. So im thinking it some kind of interference when set to 1080i. But why the interference in 1080i & not 720p?

Please, anyone, have any ideas?
post #222 of 1628
Are people still having problems with the Xbox 360 on 1080i-only sets?

EDIT:

It seems to be a TV overscan issue. Hmmm... We'll see what it looks like on my TV.
post #223 of 1628
For what it's worth, I have a 1080i only rear projection TV that has a slight overscan limitation. It's an old one, a Sony KP53XBR300 bought in 1999.

The overscan varies, about 2% vertically and 4% horizontally. It was about 5% until I tweaked the settings. I can eliminate the overscan, but at the cost of nasty distortion. A skilled person may be able to do better.

Mostly I don't notice it unless a menu item is very close to the edge, and then it's only cosmetic. The area lost is not big enough to hide a large rat or imp.
post #224 of 1628
I purchased the play and charge kit hooked it up to the console, the red light flashes for a split second and never comes back on...I then turn off the console so that the controller can charge but then the 4 quadrants on the guide button is continually flashing and I hear that the fan is still on, is this normal?

Edit: Both the wireless controller and battery seem to function correctly.

Edit: Exchanged it for a new one and works fine now, the other one must've been a dud.
post #225 of 1628
Hello,

I've had my 360 for a week now, and I have it set to output at 1080i. The thing is however, my TV is only detecting a 480p signal.

Any ideas why?

I've gone back into the system options to ensure that the output is set to 1080i, but the TV indicates that it is receiving a 480p signal.

The TV in question is the SXRD.
post #226 of 1628
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Originally Posted by ag76 View Post

Hello,

I've had my 360 for a week now, and I have it set to output at 1080i. The thing is however, my TV is only detecting a 480i signal.

Any ideas why?

I've gone back into the system options to ensure that the output is set to 1080i, but the TV indicates that it is receiving a 480p signal.

The TV in question is the SXRD.


The switch on the video dongle needs to be in the HDTV position. Also, you're not using the single composite video cable are you?
post #227 of 1628
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Originally Posted by DKaps View Post

The switch on the video dongle needs to be in the HDTV position. Also, you're not using the single composite video cable are you?

Thanks, I will definately check to see if the dongle is in the HDTV position. I was unaware of this feature.

I'm definately using component cables.

Can't wait to get home.
post #228 of 1628
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Originally Posted by GBO Possum View Post

For what it's worth, I have a 1080i only rear projection TV that has a slight overscan limitation. It's an old one, a Sony KP53XBR300 bought in 1999.

My brand-new mitsubishi cuts off part of the visor at the top/bottow, but I never would have noticed it unless someone had pointed it out in this thread.... I was like "what visor?"


I read that this is very common in 1080i setting on many projection sets... haven't bothered trying any other settings to see if it goes away.
post #229 of 1628
My xbox 360 just seems to have died. I was playing fine a few hours prior. Then I tried to turn it on again and all FOUR red lights are blinking around the power button, and the screen is blank. From what I could tell with a few google searches, all 4 red lights blinking only means the A/V cord is not plugged in right, but it is.

Looks like I'll have to call support and send it back. It's just refusing to work anymore. I guess this is what happens with a rushed delivery.
post #230 of 1628
I finally lost patience with my 360 last night. After the umpteenth freeze while playing Winning Eleven, I called the support number.
And what an exciting ride that was. Maybe it's my plummy English tones (not really, I have a very middle of the road South East accent) but I had to repeat everything at least five times. I spelt out my last name over and over and it was still too much for the CSR to pronounce it even close to properly. 'Hawthorne' isn't that weird is it?
After about 25 minutes of dithering, I was finally told that I would be sent a box and then it all got weird again. The CSR claimed I would receive a new 360 in the box. "What about the old, defective one?" I asked. "I dunno."
Good times.
I'm going to call back today with my ticket number and see if I can get someone who might be able to see what's going on.
post #231 of 1628
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Originally Posted by busybee View Post

My xbox 360 just seems to have died. I was playing fine a few hours prior. Then I tried to turn it on again and all FOUR red lights are blinking around the power button, and the screen is blank. From what I could tell with a few google searches, all 4 red lights blinking only means the A/V cord is not plugged in right, but it is.

Looks like I'll have to call support and send it back. It's just refusing to work anymore. I guess this is what happens with a rushed delivery.

Have you unplugged the system from the power brick and A/V cable then plugged it back up after a minute or two?
post #232 of 1628
sent mine in two weeks ago for eating disks. It has scratched every game disc put in it. Deep scratches running about 3/4 the circumference of the disk about half to 3/4 of the way in on the disk. It completely ruined my GRAW disk. Hopefully they have it fixed so I can not worry about throwing another 60 bucks away.
post #233 of 1628
I was mistaken about the blinking red lights being all four. That was simply me not seeing the illumination properly. I have the classic 3 red blinking lights, that indicates a hardware failure.

Unfortunately as I bought it on Ebay, the original purchase date is slightly past the 90 day warranty now, and I'm stuck with a $500 paperweight.

I really loved the system up until it stopped working. The worst part about it though is that I have to explain my quick $500 loss to the wife. lol

Unfortunately for MS I think they may have a big problem on their hands. If you google something like: xbox 360 3 red blinking lights, you will see this failure mode is not at all uncommon. In many cases people seem to be getting replacement xbox's with ultimately exactly the same problem, or their warranty expiring like mine.

Well at least I'll have a better excuse to buy a PS3 when they come out.
post #234 of 1628
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Originally Posted by busybee View Post

I was mistaken about the blinking red lights being all four. That was simply me not seeing the illumination properly. I have the classic 3 red blinking lights, that indicates a hardware failure.

Unfortunately as I bought it on Ebay, the original purchase date is slightly past the 90 day warranty now, and I'm stuck with a $500 paperweight.

I really loved the system up until it stopped working. The worst part about it though is that I have to explain my quick $500 loss to the wife. lol

Unfortunately for MS I think they may have a big problem on their hands. If you google something like: xbox 360 3 red blinking lights, you will see this failure mode is not at all uncommon. In many cases people seem to be getting replacement xbox's with ultimately exactly the same problem, or their warranty expiring like mine.

Well at least I'll have a better excuse to buy a PS3 when they come out.

You have a year warranty on the 360. Microsoft extended it. Call Microsoft and get it replaced. Should take about a week.
post #235 of 1628
Really? That's great news, but they didn't give me that impression when I called them. They asked when I purchased it when I called them, and my confession gave away that the 90 days had passed. They asked me to take it back to the retailer, but Walmart is all sold out of units and they won't take it now anyway. I guess I'll call Microsoft back and be a bit more insistent on replacement and see where it goes.

Thanks for the info. Where did you hear about the warranty extension?
post #236 of 1628
My first Xbox360 needed to be replaced and they replaced it. Then they told me they would cover me until this November. I didn't even buy the extended warranty from them. Many other people have had the same experience on other forums. When you get your replacement I suggest getting a extended warranty from Microsoft. Just in case.
post #237 of 1628
Many states have implied warranties that become the burden of companies selling here. In CA for instance, I'd assume you have at least a 1 year implied warranty that supercedes the 3 month express warranty.
post #238 of 1628
Hello everyone

I use an 32inc LCD TV that supports HD. I use the MS VGA HD cable between my Xbox and TV. And I used to run the game in 1360x768.

I've got quite an annying problem on my hands. I had owned my Xbox for about 4 months without any problems. But recently when I was playing oblivion the went black for just 1 sec and when it came back it had moved a bit to the left.

I assumed this would go away if I ran the initial setup once again (the option on the system tab). It did not, so I tried reconnecting the VGA cable to see if it that would fix it. After I had reconnected the cable my picture was in the middle again but my TV was showing on the resolution 1024x768, even though the Xbox was still set on 1360x768.

So this is my problem; my TV wont give me the highest resolution even though I set my Xbox on it. It can wiev all the other resolutions (however the picture moves itself to the left again if I put it on 1280x720). I know this is supposed to work since It's been working before. It could ofc also be my TV that is causing this. I've been thinking about just resetting all the settings so the xbox becomes just like new but I'm not sure on how to do that.

I'm also curious about the difference between 720p and 1080i, I've read alot of posts about it so I know it has to do with resolution. Perhaps it's only something on the TVs in the US and not like the ones here in Sweden.

Any help I could get would be greatly appreciated, and sorry for my mediocre english, just ask me again if there was something I explained badly and I'll ask it again.
post #239 of 1628
Two more XBOX 360's bite the dust...

Got my first one around Christmas 2005. Had problems immediately - freezes. Right in the middle of a game it would freeze. Sometimes you could go 30 minutes, sometimes 2 hours -- then FREEZE. No change in lights (both green), just a freeze.

Called M$, did the DHL thing, and got a new one in mid-January. Worked great -- til very recently. BTW, been running it 1080i w/DD5.1 - no problem on that front.

About 2 weeks ago I got a freeze again. Now it's happening all the time. Same problem. Multiple games - does it in PGR3, Ghost Recon, PDZ, COD2, whatever. Tried vertical, horizontal, suspending power supply (which they never even asked me to return the first time - didn't want it), blowing a fan across it from the outside to improve external circulation (VERY good BTW - on top of a table w/nothing warm around it), etc. No dice. Still locks up. Weird how it seems to get worse over time. Wonder if dust is gumming up the fans & heatsinks inside? Whatever - back again.

For anyone who hasn't already invested money in games for this lemon of a console, I highly recommend against it. The XBOX 360 is obviously a very bad design. If you buy one, it appears you have to plan on having it replaced every couple months or so, assuming it even works out of the box.
post #240 of 1628
It looks like the sony shills are out today.
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