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post #151 of 730
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Originally Posted by edouble View Post

Does anyone know the SM values to adjust if you want to change the bottom/top areas of the screen (think uneven letterbox bars). I have slight bows to the middle on both top and bottom.


There are Pincushion adjustments in the service menu for all sides , look for the settings that start with "PC" .

--------- Jason
post #152 of 730
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Originally Posted by edouble View Post

Also, has anyone noticed if the SM default values differ by resolution (if you don't change the aspect)?

Many of the SM values on my set are different by resolution with no changes to the aspect ratio .

-------- Jason
post #153 of 730
Oh crap. I was messing with my 1080i settings last night but thought all defaults were the same so I only have 480p defaults written down. Ah, oops.

Edit: Haha, so, uh, anyone want to be generous enough to list the default SM settings? Seems like a bunch of people are requesting it. I could do 1080i, as I know those defaults.
post #154 of 730
Here are the ones that I actually wrote down ( not all of them since some I did not bother to mess with ) .

SM Defaults (this was under 1080i) :

HPOS = 03D3
HWID = 78
V RAS = CA
VEAMP = AB
R-Y_A = 80
V-C = 76
V-S = 5E
INPIN = 10
H LIN = 66
PCC = 84
TOPG = 5A
BTMSL = 00
TRAP = 83
HP AFS = 00 DC
COLOR = 22

--- The 1080i needed to be resized to get rid of a huge amount of Overscan on my set .

--- Does anybody else have a problem with the basic Picture settings not holding on a per input/resolution basis ? I just discovered that my calibration efforts for 480i/480p were wasted because every input now has the same calibration as the last input/resolution that I did (which was Component 1 / 1080i) . In other words TV , Component 1 , Component 2 , etc. all now have the same basic calibration settings even though I calibrated each one (bummer) . If this is the case then this set will certainly be going back , and I really do not want to end up with a 26" flat panel LCD .

*** EDIT : oh yeah this set is going back , the settings remain constant on all inputs and at all resolutions ... what a hunk-a-crapola . ***


----- Thanks ,
------ Jason
post #155 of 730
Yea you have to change the basic settings, and you can't specify one for each input. Kinda sucks.

I should mention that I was able to get all my defaults together, and it turns out I had only adjusted for 1080i (thank goodness for an upscaling dvd player). Also, it looks like DaGamePimp has the 26" model, while I have the 30", and the default settings are definitely different.
post #156 of 730
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

...the settings remain constant on all inputs and at all resolutions ...

You can sort of get around this by using a certain preset name with a certain input. For example, I've got "standard" setup for my hdmi dvd player, and "cinema" setup for the vcr.
post #157 of 730
Can anyone help me understand what an acceptable level of ghosting is? I could not fit my 26 in the box in my car so they opened it for me at CC, it is a major ordeal to bring it back to the store to try and exchange it. I am trying to figure out what I can live with, I am currently playing around with the Avia disc.

This is my 2nd bum tv from CC, perhaps they would bring one out to me? probably not..
post #158 of 730
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Originally Posted by bshef View Post

I want to buy my wife a new Bedroom TV.....

I stumbled upon this 26" Pany and CC wants $569 for it.......
I'm shocked that the 30" is only $30 more at $599
however the 30" depth is too large for the TV cabinet in our room....

sigh!


I do not know what your TV Cabinet looks like, but could you cut out part of the back of the cabinet so the TV could fit in?
post #159 of 730
I just jumped on this 26" panny for my bedroom. its the only crt thats ws that would fit my tv cabinet. looked good at CC on a HD signal. they had a open box for $340 but it had blood and dents on it and dont know how the previous customer treated it and delivered it back to CC since it was not returned in a box. so I bought the new one as $60 wouldnt break me but would have been a nice savings. not worth the risk.

have to wait till xmas to open it per wifey, she wasnt happy about buying it to begin with but like with our Sony XBR 36" HDTV she really loved it when she seen it in action and to this day says how great a tv it is. she could never go back to SD now. especially with CSI!

so I have to wait till xmas day. have a LG 4200A tuner (QAM tuning) to use on it. doesnt get much use in my HT on the projector as I watch dvd's usually so that will work well for the bedroom.

for $398 this is quite a deal and I am sure is gonna be a nice set for the price! LCD's are just way overpriced! cant imagine this price getting lower on the 26" panny as that seems to be a great deal ! the 30" for a bit over $500 is a great deal and CC just had a sale at $549 I believe. thats incredible IMO! panny is only second to Sony IMO. I would have bought the 30" if it would have fit in my bedroom cabinet.

I heard the 26" panny is discontinued and panny will no longer be making CRT's? is this true ? CC guy said they are focusing on LCD. I did notice the 26" is no longer listed on the CC website.
post #160 of 730
I am about to pick up one of last year's CT-30WC14 and wondered if I would be disappointed. It seems about the perfect fit for our entertainment center (except the height because of 4:3).

It will be in the living room for the Wife and Kids to watch OHA and DVDs, and will be on most of the day every day.

Any input in the next hour will be taken into considerations.


Thank you in advance if anyone can give me their feed back, if not


have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


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post #161 of 730
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Originally Posted by ETC View Post

I am about to pick up one of last year's CT-30WC14 and wondered if I would be disappointed. It seems about the perfect fit for our entertainment center (except the height because of 4:3).

It will be in the living room for the Wife and Kids to watch OHA and DVDs, and will be on most of the day every day.

Any input in the next hour will be taken into considerations.


Thank you in advance if anyone can give me their feed back, if not


have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


Thanks anyway. I went to my local Sam's Club and told them it was on sale last month at Wal Mart in Kentucky for $375.00, they marked it down to $325.00. I might post again after I get it out and hook it up.
post #162 of 730
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Originally Posted by mikedaul View Post

You can sort of get around this by using a certain preset name with a certain input. For example, I've got "standard" setup for my hdmi dvd player, and "cinema" setup for the vcr.

--- Yeah , I tried it that way too and they did not stick once powered off so it must have been a defective set . Besides that the slight red shift across the entire image was really bothering me .

--- I ended up with an Olevia LT26HVX (even though I did not really want an LCD) and I am very pleased with the results (other than off angle viewing) .

--------------- Jason
post #163 of 730
bruman....
I'm in the same boat as you.....Only I did NOT buy the Panny...I have a Samsung 26" that I love, but want a second HDTV (CRT) in our bedroom. Our local CC had an Open Box unit for (wow....!!) $389...vs $398 NEW...?!! Anyway, I told the salesman if I bought it now, the good wife would be adding a couple of b***s to the tree (Ouch!) So it's gonna be the first of '06 before I make the move....I wanna WATCH the Sopranos...not SING IT.....
post #164 of 730
I was told by a Panasonic customer service rep that this is the last year Panasonic will offer CRT televisions. They will be focusing on flat-panel TVs instead. Whatever it's left in stores, this is it. Get them while they last.
post #165 of 730
I screwed up, local CC had them both in stock according to their site on Tuesday night, yesterday I tried to get a Video Only price match and they said to go buy it at CC. By the time I went to CC they no longer had the 26".

I also noticed they now don't have either on their website.

Any other ideas where I might get the 26" at or <$450 or the 30" at or <650?

Thanks,
Tom
post #166 of 730
Circuit City no longer offer the 34" also. Panasonic widescreen CRT HDTVs are now discontinued. Get them while they last.
post #167 of 730
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

--- I ended up with an Olevia LT26HVX (even though I did not really want an LCD) and I am very pleased with the results (other than off angle viewing) .
--------------- Jason


Jason,

Do you really prefer the Olevia? I bought one last week and was planning on returning it for the panny tube. After reading the board comments on Olevia I was disappointed with the LT26HVX pq. Guess I am spoiled by crt pq.

On another note, I am in Portland, I have a HT room with an InFocus 7205. Would love to get involved in some of the local meets. PM me and maybe we can connect for a beer after the holidays.

Tom
post #168 of 730
dsan: aahhhh they get over it! come on whos gonna divorce over a tv ?

so I was right, pannys are no longer making crt...interesting.
post #169 of 730
Ok, back to the previous troubles adjustin overscan and keeping it that way. So is the conclusion that we can not adj. overscan for each input??? Or was that a defective set not holding the adj.? Thats a deal breaker for me. I had just about made up my mind on the panny. And as anyone who has followed my posts knows I've been on the fence for weeks now LOL..

If this is true, can it be adjusted on every input on the sony 34hs? I really liked the panny picture better though....bahh!!
post #170 of 730
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Originally Posted by letterstoher View Post

Circuit City no longer offer the 34" also. Panasonic widescreen CRT HDTVs are now discontinued. Get them while they last.

I just got my 30" Panny last week and I bought the 3 yrs warranty from Circuit City. If my TV takes a dump in the next 3 years it looks like they will have to give me a flat panel tv to replace it
post #171 of 730
Thanks to cireaasirefan for explaining how to enter the service menu.

My CT-26WX15n 1080i settings:

HPOS is for Horizontal Centering Default: 00 1A 03 0B Setting: 00 1A 03 E1
HWID is for Horizontal width Default: 00 33 81 Setting: 00 33 AB
VRAS is for Vertical width Default: 00 8B C7 Setting: 00 8B C5
VEAMP is for Vertical Centering Default: 00 3A 00 A9 Setting: 00 3A 00 7A
HLIN Default: 00 12 6D Setting: no change
PCC is Pincushin Upper Right Default: 00 4C 83 Setting: 00 4C 73
PCCLG is Pincushin Lower Left Default: 00 68 ?? Setting: 00 68 43
PCCHG is Pincushin Upper Left Default: 00 67 ?? Setting: 00 67 44
PCCHS is I dunno Default: 00 63 01
PCCLS is I dunno Default: 00 64 00
PARA is trapezoidal adjustment Default: 00 24 12 Setting: 00 24 10

Please correct me if my assumptions about a settings purpose are wrong, particularly the PC* settings.
post #172 of 730
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I just got my 30" Panny last week and I bought the 3 yrs warranty from Circuit City. If my TV takes a dump in the next 3 years it looks like they will have to give me a flat panel tv to replace it

Actually.....their warranty states that if after 3 attempts to fix your set.....then they will give a replacement.
post #173 of 730
I just got a 30 inch set (barely) and am looking for the latest basic settings including the pic mode (vivid, std, etc) and color temp used untill I can get a DVE run on this set.

I'm getting a nice, clear picture but it's just not stunning like I expected. I tried edouble's settings. I'm running off of a comcast box via good component cables. How do you change to 1080i output as some have talked about? Does the box default to HD output?

Thanks,
John
post #174 of 730
Assuming you have an HD Motorola cable box, with the CRT on and set to the appropriate input, the cable box off, press "menu" on the front of the box. The settings will appear unless the original settings can't be displayed in which case you can use the front cable box display. You can adjust for screen aspect: 16:9 or 4:3 (use 16:9), DVI/Y Pb Pr output: 1080i, 720p, 480p or 480i (use 1080i), 4:3 override off, 480i, 480p (I'm using 480p since I think it improves SD picture quality). I am using a DVI/HDMI cable for my Comcast box and I think it improved HD signals over component inputs. With my 26", I've only had to adjust tilt a degree or two. Perhaps I'll be bold and try to resize and recenter the 1080i input but I am pretty pleased with the current picture and I haven't had any geometry or ghosting issues. I originally got my 26" for $499 at CC but it went on sale at CC for $399 within a couple of weeks. One phone call to the store got my 110% low price guarantee match plus sales tax credit. The net was about $425 including tax. I have been very happy with the set and I'm sad to hear that the CRT HD monitors are being dropped by Panasonic. Bill
post #175 of 730
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Originally Posted by kbconv View Post

I just got a 30 inch set (barely) and am looking for the latest basic settings including the pic mode (vivid, std, etc) and color temp used untill I can get a DVE run on this set.

I'm getting a nice, clear picture but it's just not stunning like I expected. I tried edouble's settings. I'm running off of a comcast box via good component cables. How do you change to 1080i output as some have talked about? Does the box default to HD output?

Thanks,
John

The cable duder should have set up your box settings for you. To be honest, I think the three default picture mode settings are pretty crappy. Torch mode plain sucks and the other two seem far too dark (at least on my set).

What about something like ESPN HD or the Discovery HD channel? Those should display in 1080i (verify this by accessing the service menu -- it will tell you which pic resoulation you're in...see the beginning of this thread for details on the SM). Also, check out the beginning of this thread. A few of us have posted our color/tint/sharpness settings. On my set, at least, the actual color is simply stunning, but if you're color values are even a little off, it's just not going to look as good.
post #176 of 730
I just got a Panny CT-26WX15 tonight and I have the same kind of vertical flaring out that others have reported. I read the instructions on how to enter the menu and I thought I would post my virgin settings:

Many settings had between 2 and 4 hex bytes. I only wrote down the ones that changed. ( I think the first 2 bytes represent the register and the remaining bytes represent the data value )

BTW: I noticed changing TOPSC from 01 to 04 straightened out my verticle flaring at the top of the screen. I also noticed that for my DVD at 480p the horizontal size and positions are off. It's cutting off part of the right hand side of the DVD menu.

For 1080i: ( All Values are HEX )

Color 22
Tint 80
Bright 09 91
Cont 02 46
B-Y_G 3C
CUT G 01 04
CUT R 01 04
CUT B 00 E4
BRT 09 A9
R DR 83
B DR 90
R-Y_A 80
H LIN 72
H POS 03 D7
H WID 73
PCC 80
PC CHG 48
PC CLG 46
PC CHS 05
PC CLS 05
TOPG 48
BTMG 56
TOPSC 01
BTMSC 00
TRAP 81
PARA 12
SIDE 10
HTRAP 1E
VRAS CC
WEAMP AB
V-C 78
W-S 6F
HD AFS 00 DC
VTOP 00 B2
BDAC 69
INPIN 10
MOIRE 80

Then I checked 480P ( My DVD ) and I noticed many values were greyed out. Here were the settings for 480P:

H WID 7E
PCC 57
PC CHG 45
PC CLG 41
PC CHS 02
PC CLS 04
TOPG 53
BTMG 60
HD AFS 01 32
post #177 of 730
I was considering getting an DVE CD and calibrating my set but then I realized that will only do it for 480P and not 1080I which is what my cable box is outputting. If I had a DVD player that outputted 1080I and I calibrated my TV, would it still be calibrated for the Cable box or could the sync settings be slightly different and the settings off some?

I suppose this is a good argument for LCD but for $398 I love this friggin TV!
post #178 of 730
Got a SM question: bottom horizontal lines (think bottom widescreen bar on movies, sports ticket) bows upwards slightly on the right side of the screen. I've tried messing with the SM a bunch, but I can't seem to find a value that will help me lower this. Can anyone help?
post #179 of 730
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Originally Posted by chrpai View Post

I was considering getting an DVE CD and calibrating my set but then I realized that will only do it for 480P and not 1080I which is what my cable box is outputting. If I had a DVD player that outputted 1080I and I calibrated my TV, would it still be calibrated for the Cable box or could the sync settings be slightly different and the settings off some?

I suppose this is a good argument for LCD but for $398 I love this friggin TV!


Yea you can do this, but you'd have to go through the SM and NOT the TV mode settings, because then you could specifically calibrate each resolution setting. 1080i is 1080i, whether it's coming through your cable box or your upconverting DVD player.
post #180 of 730
So we CAN calibrate for easch incomeing res. and it will remeber it??!! I saw a few posts back that someoens was only holding one calibratioin across the board.??? This is my final question in my decision on this set....
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