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Either your eyes work differently than everyone else, or something is wrong with your set. Everything on my set is crisp and sharp. It is way better than the Mits 1080p DLP that I returned. I couldn't be happier with mine.

I'm not boxing it yet - I am probably going to order the HP set today or tomorrow and will try to arrange the delivery/pickup to be done at the same time, which, I am sure will take quite a few phonecalls. So I should have the JVC for another 10 days or so.

Well, here's what someone said in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=620329

Cabzinrah,
Thanks for the info, please let me know if you are using HDMI input 1 or 2 on the JVC. Some posters have said that the PC input can not be hooked up to HDMI input 1 on the JVC. This does not sound right to me though????

I agree with you Durack on the LCOS being blurry. I guess there are two kinds of people on this forum:

1. People who love the LCOS sets and like a more "film-like" smooth picture.
2. People like you and me who prefer a more sharp - even artificial look better.

I'm using HDMI input 2 as I have my Comcast STB on HDMI 1. I'll be happy to give HDMI input 1 a try and post back tonight.

Not a problem. Happy to re-shoot a red on black and post tonight.

You left out the ones that are excited about their new TV and refuse to admit that the picture is blurry.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the native picture appear as sharp as real life with no enhancement artifacts. Then if you want to electronically change it to your taste by sharpening or softening, then you can do that with some controls.

I think there are a few clues here when you say its blury the same as the SXRD --I think you don't like the smooth (film like) look of LCoS and maybe this is not for you. About your screen going blank-- it might be your cable box as many are having trouble with HDMI.

Roy

Does anyone have experience with the Repair Master extended warranty programs?

This was discussed a while back on the ecoustics forum (man, that's really gone downhill recently - too many idiot posters flameing and cursing). Anyway, there is an optical sensor where the hdmi circuit is housed. Open it and the sensor disables the hdmi input. Apparently, if there is any light "leakage", a flashlight or sunlight will also trigger the sensor. You'll probably find some discussion on this in the 720P JVC owners thread. I think that "invalid" input modes will also cause the input to disable - but that is just a guess from an old guys memory of having read some posts so it may not be reliable.

1st shot shows I am on HDMI input 1 which should answer one question and also shows readability from my couch.

I made a Word doc with red, white, and green test of a range of font sizes from absurdly small 6pt up to 14pt.

2nd and 3rd shots show very close focus shots of this font test for the critical reviewer. At this admittedly very close distance, red on black indeed falls apart at small sizes on the FH96.

CabZinRah

Thanks for the shots.

What is the logical resolution of your computer? i.e, 96dpi (small fonts) or 120 dpi (large fonts)?

Well, actually it is the last version stand (for the HD70G886). Much more attractive to me, glass shelves and a light gray on the front legs. I got one for $250 (no shipping) and I think it will go nicely with the Pro set.

http://www.hhgregg.com/images/Product/t5/t5_RKCPR76.jpg

Well, played with my set some more.

Doesn't seem to handle 480i input very well. My digital cable output looks the best if I tell the box to upconvert everything to 1080i. If the box outputs the original material, there is a noticeable drop in quality.

My wife who is a non-techie non-gadget person also commented that she doesn't like the TV at all (she also thinks that our old LCD projection Panny looks nicer). So, to make a long story short, we just ordered a 58 inch HP, hopefully that one will be to our liking.

Bell'o looks good. Here are some others that I am considering.

Plateau CR-2V (64 inch wide)
StudioTech HF-33 (only 62 in wide)
Salamander Synergy Triples 20
Sanus JFV65e

cabzinrah - Thanks for the excellent posts. According to the HDMI spec, there are really 5 optional 1080p formats (note: none are listed in 6.3.1 "Primary Video Format Timings", only in 6.3.2 "Optional Video Format Timings") they are:

1920x1080P@59.94/60Hz
1920x1080P@50Hz
1920x1080P@23.98/24Hz
1920x1080P@25Hz
1920x1080P@29.97/30Hz

Note that all the Video Clips on the Microsoft site are at 24fps (24Hz):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tShowcase.aspx

We should use the above as a checklist - I'll help as soon as mine arrives! I'm really interested to see how the Microsoft clips work through Media player - does it adjust your resolution after you launch the clips?

For some perspective for other posters, here is what I'm suffering with now - I would call these blurry - FYI VGA 640x480 w/large fonts (Windows keeps telling me my resolution sucks and to change it every time I boot, thanks for rubbing it in Bill). The switch/LED for my basement PC is just strung under my tuner - anyone with mounting suggestions for these, please let me know - going to try to build them into my stand when the new set arrives...only one more day before christmas eve.. fingers crossed.

Happy Holidays
Tom

Spartan2005 I bought the Plateau CR-2V (64 inch wide) for my Samsung HLR6768, I returned the Samsung so I will be using the Plateau for my JVC 70" Pro...This is a quality stand that holds my Paradigm Ref center channel, Yamaha receiver, Dish Network 811, OPPO DVD player and a Pure AV line conditioner/surge protector and I still have room for two more components....heres a picture with all my gear minus a TV.


IMG_0353 (600 x 450).jpg

"smooth" in this context in no way implies 'blurry' or 'fuzzy' or 'soft', all bad
things.

Tomorrow afternoon (Dec.23) I'll be taking delivery of my 61FH96. I will
place it next to my 61" Sammy DLP, HLN series, 1280x720. I have many
excellent HD video files on my PC saved for the express purpose of
doing a side by side of an excellent DLP set vs a 1920x1080 LCos. These files
I choose specifically for their extreme high quality to show differences in sharpness,
color, black levels. This will be a definitive test, a classic "apples to apples" because they are the same size (61") with the same 'gold standard' video shown at the same time, and best of all, they will be butted up next to each other so I don't
have to "remember" what one looked like as I watched the other for comparison.
This will settle once and for all the question "which is sharper".
BTW, I can return either or both of these sets, so I have no bias, no "desired
outcome" that will influence me. I'll simply keep the winner and the loser goes back.

Very similar to my setup - I've got the Yamaha DSP-A1, Paradigm Reference Studio 100s for mains and rears, CC-450 center, the Servo 15 sub and a brand spanking new 70FH96 on top.

Thanks. I do have windows flanking the TV in the rear, and there is sunlight that comes in (the outage happened in the middle of the day). Is there something I can plug-up on the back of the TV to prevent this?

Thanks,

-J.

I'd be careful about blocking any air vents the tv needs to operate. From what I understand there is an intake port and an exhaust port to move air through the unit. Also there is a recommended clearance for the back, top, and sides listed in the owners manual.

Interesting,

Many people do like the screen door effect of LCDs it does give the impression of a crisp picture, even though though are just black spaces. But it can also lead to jaggies.

Durack, what type of input are you using? The component RGB cables, HDMI, S-Video, RF F-connector cable (AACK!)?

Also, on your cable box, it is my understanding if you have an option for 1080i, 720p, or 480 whatever, you should set it to 1080i. Get the most information to the set.

Plus many cable systems actually compress away some of the high definition from high definition! Best picture is probably from an over the air HD transmission from a channel that doesn't have sub channels.

Since lcos has the highest fill factor (least amount of space between pixels) you should have the crispest picture.

But there is always the possibility that your set was knocked around during shipment or delivery and something is askew with the focus.

If I were you, I'd contact JVC and have a service tech swing by under warranty if you are seeing blurrier (is that even a word?) pictures than in the showrooms.

I saw an animated movie (Ice Age) on a 56FH96 and with the crisp animation this was easily the sharpest picture that I've ever witnessed.

I love the HP too, but someone showed me that anyone can see the rainbow effect by slightly turning your head, not looking directly at the set, and blinking your eyes. Now I ALWAYS see it! He ruined DLPs for me.

Anyway, I'd rather not have a moving part like a color wheel in a long term investment. I know they are rated to last for a long time, I'm just a "fewer moving parts, less chance to break" kind of person.

Good luck on your new set, I OWN STOCK IN HP SO BUY 2!!!

A good question Larry that I really should have mentioned. The Dell 9300 laptop is a 17" diagonal LCD display and natively does 1920x1200. Dell defaulted the font to the larger 120 dpi since even if 17" is huge by laptop standards, running 1920x1200 on it is aggressive at the smaller font setting. So yes, what you're seeing in my shots is indeed 120 dpi.

CabZinRah

(Had a 15 yr old Mt. Eden Cab with two other families tonight over here...don't get me started..... )

Looks good. I have a center that is 8in H X23inW. I too need to put a dvd, AVR and the cable box in their - is there room to handle the center speaker?

I read through the entire manual last night and I found no reference to the term "1080p" anywhere. Am I missing something?

Yes it will fit...there are two shelves in the middle just remove the top one and your good to go...the one thing I wish I could do is change the color of the stand...as you can see mine is all silver...I would get it in all black or black with silver columns.

I officially belong in this thread as an owner now took delivery of my 70" 1/2hr ago, but don't get to play till after work 8pm :-(


This happened to one of the early 56" owners. is the back of the TV in any bright areas? The previous owner was changing cables with a flash light and the HDMI went out. The technician or some one said that to prevent tampering the HDMI board disables it's self when it sees light or something like that. The solution was to enter the service menu and do something. entering the service menu is the same as older JVCs (so I hear) and the solution might be here somewhere. especially if they reopen the other JVC threads.

Sorry I don't know all the details

Good luck

Sounds great! I might suggest that you run both TVs through AVIA or DVE and do your test in a light controlled environment so that you are better able to see the differences and the Apples to Apples comparison is more accurate.

It sounds like you have a defective set. I have a 70" pro and that puppy is incredibly sharp.

bopfer; Why did you return the Mits?
How is this comparing with the Mits (other than no rainbows) and how is the fan noise?

durack; How about some screen shots??