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post #61 of 2397
MillerDuck,

Have you tried hooking your HTPC to the firewire input? Will the JVC take a 1080p thru the firewire?

How does Std Def look on the JVC?
post #62 of 2397
Anyone seen the blue hue and the JVC like is being seen on the Sony SXRD??
post #63 of 2397
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Originally Posted by edwa View Post

MillerDuck,

Have you tried hooking your HTPC to the firewire input? Will the JVC take a 1080p thru the firewire?

Someone else attempted to connect the JVC up via Firewire to their HD box and it didn't work. The firewire port on the JVC is only compatible with other JVC devices.
post #64 of 2397
MillerDuck and others:

I haven't been able to see the set in person yet (Video Only in Beaverton had sold their floor model) but I have started looking critically at the 720P sets. Unfortunately, it looks like I am very sensitive to SSE(*). As I was walking in the door at Video Only looking at a 720P set, I thought: "Jeez, what the hell is that?"

So (and I kinda' hate to bring this up) do you see SSE and if so, are you able to ignore it?


* SSE= "Silk Screen Effect". From this post:
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

I really find myself sensitive to the "Silk Screen Effect" on the SXRD, in which you see the granular-looking screen structure illuminated "over" the image, especially on brighter scenes.

This seems to affect all microdisplay RPTVs regardless of technology. I do not see in on my current CRT RPTV (Pioneer Elite 610.) Here is another thread on the subject.

I find it so distracting that I have pretty much decided to pass on all microdisplay sets and wait for the 65" 1080P Panasonic plasma (and live with its reflectivity.) On the other hand I wonder if I could just say to myself: "Self, just chill and watch the damn program and not the screen!"
post #65 of 2397
Yes, SSE is noticeable on my 61" FH96. It is most apparent on scenes that are very bright, especially with white. An example would be of a scene flying over snow covered mountains. I also see it on the INHD scenes where they annouce the upcoming programs.

It is true that all RPTV's suffer from SSE. It has to do with the makeup of the screen itself. Personally I do not find SSE bothersome though even when I do see it. I'm much more bothered by SDE, RBE, and claymation.

If you are truly bothered by SSE then the new JVC probably isn't for you. It is not noticeable in most scenes but it is definetely visible in very bright scenes.
post #66 of 2397
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Originally Posted by efranzen View Post

Yes, SSE is noticeable on my 61" FH96. It is most apparent on scenes that are very bright, especially with white. An example would be of a scene flying over snow covered mountains. I also see it on the INHD scenes where they annouce the upcoming programs.

It is true that all RPTV's suffer from SSE. It has to do with the makeup of the screen itself. Personally I do not find SSE bothersome though even when I do see it. I'm much more bothered by SDE, RBE, and claymation.

If you are truly bothered by SSE then the new JVC probably isn't for you. It is not noticeable in most scenes but it is definetely visible in very bright scenes.

What is SDE and claymation?
post #67 of 2397
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Originally Posted by halsan40 View Post

What is SDE and claymation?

SDE is Screen Door Effect. This is seen on LCD displays where you see the black spaces between the pixels. It looks like you're looking through a screen door.

I don't know if claymation is the proper term, but it's an effect that is common to plasma displays where certain textures, especially flesh tones, appear to be made from clay.
post #68 of 2397
Thread returned. Thanks for being patient
post #69 of 2397
Now lets get some mnore screenshots of these sets.....
post #70 of 2397
My son has a JVC 56" 720P unit and the problem with it that I find so bothersome is the black crush. How would you rate the new 1080P unit in dealing with this problem or is this a set up problem? The video processing on his unit also seems poor, has this been improved?
post #71 of 2397
I am so confused about which set to get.
I've narrowed it down to the P61R1U or the HPMD5880n.
I'm not interested in hooking the computer to it, just the best quality picture for SD, HD and dvd's. Can someone please give me the pros and/or cons to either set? Thanks.
post #72 of 2397
I'm glad this puppy is back!

So should we piggyback posts on the Pro units in here too or do you guys think we should make another new topic for owners of the pro units?
post #73 of 2397
Well while you were away, TVA delivered my pre-order 56FH96 set. Time Warner cable is coming Tuesday with the cable card (ironically they're out of HD boxes!). [Location: Time Warner SoCal West Valley]

No black crush like reported on the 720p sets, for my eyes and viewing I leave it in Theatre mode (as I did for 11 years with the JVC NV55BX4 before it).

So far only SD to look at, but have watched one DVD so far with my Samsung HD841 at 1080i thru component cables--the DVI to HDMI cable hasn't arrived yet. That set up puts up a really remarkable picture without considering that the source is DVD!

So far very pleased with set, also bought the stand for the "older" 56G series and this set fits perfectly on the swivel platform of that stand (I need it to swing back when I drop the screen for the 4805 projector's screen).

The Theatre mode is plenty bright for me for day or night viewing and fleshtones are good. Haven't run DVE yet since I'm going to age in the lamp for 100 hours before doing a full set-up.

John
post #74 of 2397
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Originally Posted by efranzen View Post

Someone else attempted to connect the JVC up via Firewire to their HD box and it didn't work. The firewire port on the JVC is only compatible with other JVC devices.

That's what JVC says about then HDMI input and computers.

Anyone with that RCA 2160 PVR that would want to try to hook it up to the I-Link 1394 port to see if it is reconized?
Also anyone with a JVC deck that has it hooked up to the I-Link?
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I don't know if claymation is the proper term, but it's an effect that is common to plasma displays where certain textures, especially flesh tones, appear to be made from clay.

Isn't it more a HD3+ issue of those DLP's, noteable Sansung?
post #75 of 2397
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Originally Posted by patsan View Post

I am so confused about which set to get.
I've narrowed it down to the P61R1U or the HPMD5880n.
I'm not interested in hooking the computer to it, just the best quality picture for SD, HD and dvd's. Can someone please give me the pros and/or cons to either set? Thanks.

I sent back my Samsung 67" 1080P DLP and now I am getting the JVC PRO P70R1U...way to many digital artifacts on the DLP's but that's just my opinion.
post #76 of 2397
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Originally Posted by jwv651 View Post

I sent back my Samsung 67" 1080P DLP and now I am getting the JVC PRO P70R1U...way to many digital artifacts on the DLP's but that's just my opinion.

Thanks Joe...but now I'm even more confused/ This isn't a DLP?
post #77 of 2397
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Originally Posted by patsan View Post

Thanks Joe...but now I'm even more confused/ This isn't a DLP?

It's LCOS like the Sony SXRD
post #78 of 2397
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Originally Posted by ttmatsu View Post

It's LCOS like the Sony SXRD

Thank you. Understand now....I don't know how I missed that.
Does anyone know how many hours the bulb is rated for and what a replacement bulb would cost?
post #79 of 2397
I don't know the "official" rating but I've seen posts for between 4,000 and 6,000 hours. JVC charges $250. Someone on ebay sold his "extra" one for $80 less. Part is TS-CL110U.
post #80 of 2397
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Originally Posted by ttmatsu View Post

I don't know the "official" rating but I've seen posts for between 4,000 and 6,000 hours. JVC charges $250. Someone on ebay sold his "extra" one for $80 less. Part is TS-CL110U.


The Lamp I see for the 70" is $199.00 on the JVC website. Part Number TS-CL110UAA
post #81 of 2397
Cameron, Millerduck, etc. . . thank you all very much for all of your posts. I just ordered the 70 with the powerbuy mainly because of all I've learned from reading these posts. I do have one question (of course on the issue of accepting a 1080p signal) if you wouldn't mind:

I understand that several of you have been able to display a native 1080p signal from a computer through the HDMI. I know that there is no way to know for sure whether it will be able to do the same for other sources (ie, the PS3), but is there some reason to think that it will not be able to? Is there something special about the signal that comes from a computer that makes it more likely to be able to be displayed?

Thanks again everyone for all your time and patience.
post #82 of 2397
I know one of the reasons everyone want's theses tv's is 1080p.
But remember 1080i is just two frames put on the screen sequencially.
The tv does not have to "scale" a 1080i signal to display it 1080p. All is
has to do is combine the two screens. This can be done without too
much distortion, if any.
post #83 of 2397
Any comment on the ProHD DVD PLAYER (SRDVD-100U)? Retail price is just $400. It can play saved 720p/1080i contents on a regular writable dvd media. Also has ethernet adn USB 2.0 for direct network connection supporting DHCP.
post #84 of 2397
I was just about to pull the trigger on a Mits 52628 until I found out that my local "mom and pop" dealer is a authorized JVC dealer and can order the new JVC 1080p models, even though he doesn't stock them.

I was always interested in these having been impressed with the 720p model, but wanted to buy locally. Now I have to find one at the big box stores to look at.

I'm interested in the 56" model, only. I went to the JVC website, and it looks like the available stand leave a lot to be desired. It says that the stand is the RK-CEXM6, which is also the stand for the 61" model. The dimensions listed on the website don't make sense. Only 6.5J" tall? 30" deep?

Is there another stand that fits the HD56FH96? The Mits has a stand that fits it very nicely...same footprint, 18" tall, lots of shelf space, etc.

I would like to seriously consider the HD56FH96, but it has to pass the wife test, and the stand is a huge part of that. Any sugggestions?

I looked at the RKCILAM6 stand on the web web site which is for the 720p models. I read earlier that it fits the HD56FH96 well, but it looks kind of "different" in the picture when compared to most other stands from other manufacturers. I need to put a speaker that is 22W X 8H X 12D on the shelf below the TV shelf, and I'm not sure that will fit on the RKCILAM6 stand.

Thanks,
Ira
post #85 of 2397
The dimensions are for the shipping carton - best guess that anyone has come up with is that the stand is really 18" tall based on using scale on the drawing.

I got the nea moda stand at CC (discounted if you buy on their website) for the 61 inch. Center shelf is adjustable and in the middle position, fits my 23X8X10 speaker with no problem.
post #86 of 2397
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I would like to seriously consider the HD56FH96, but it has to pass the wife test, and the stand is a huge part of that. Any sugggestions?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=BYO+TV+stand

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=BYO+TV+stand
post #87 of 2397
got the 1080p signal working via my HTPC, but the overscan is driving the wifey crazy. i have never worked with Powerstrip, so does anyone have any pointers? anyone have any questions or want any tests run, just let me know. i'm installing Call of Duty 2 right now on my HTPC so i can see it in all its glory at 1080p.

by the way, the "flight" 1080p demo from microsoft is amazing. the Blue Angel planes look like tows floating out in the sky above the fields. it truly looks 3d.
post #88 of 2397
If anyone purchased the stand that goes with the FH96 (or the PRO for that matter), can you pass on the dimensions and maybe even post a picture with the TV on it?? Thanks!!
post #89 of 2397
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Originally Posted by TNVOL View Post

I found this TV at HH Gregg in Atlanta today and as far as I know they are the only one in Atlanta that has them in stock. It was sitting next to the SONY SXRD and the Mits 1080p DLP. Both LCOS sets looked like more natural color than the Mits to my untrained eye. I could not tell any difference in the JVC and the Sony from DISH HDNET being shown but I was being severely harrassed and pressured by several salesmen so was limited to about 15 minutes of watching. The JVC cabinet blows the SONY away as most already knew. I did not see any breakup or wierd pictures on either set.

Interesting that just today they had a price drop of $200-300 on the Sony to ballpark 4K range with the JVC being about $200 higher priced. I bet JVC will drop their price since Sony apparently just did. I was just scouting them out today and I bet by Super Bowl time both sets are another $300-500 cheaper on sales.

But HH Gregg said only 40 of the JVC units had been sent to the Atlanta area stores. This store in Duluth had sold 3-4 this past week and only had another 3-4 in stock. They are carrying only 56" and 61". They said they had no demand for the 70" model.


I was at that same HH Greg store in duluth as well. I agree that i could npt tell any difference in PQ between it and the Sony.
Now...the 5" JVC was sitting next to the Tosh 1080P DLP and they both look very similar in PQ. I played around with the settings and came to the conclusion that the Tosh had better detail on up front image while the JVC did a better job of resolving the details in darker scenes and backgrounds. Example is like scene where they interview someone outdoor...and up close the face looked better on the Tosh buit the JVC sowed better details of the trees, shrubs in background.
post #90 of 2397
I received my hd56fh96 on Wednesday from TVA, and will be calibrating it tonight with the Avia dvd. So far only no HD only SD, which looks acceptable which is better than what I've seen on dlp's at the local stores. Dvd's over component input looked very good for 480p from a PE DV-47ai. I will be getting a hd antenna this coming week for ota. When I go to CES in 2 weeks I will find out the scoop with mpeg 4 sat dvr receivers from E*, and D*. Dish won't cut a deal for existing customers for the 942. So I will wait for the new receivers when they come.

So so far I am very happy with the tv and it being all black. I will post pictures this week when the rest of my gear comes in and my built in is finished.

A big thanks to Miller Duck and Efranz for all your info.
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