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post #121 of 1167
Does anyone live in michigan? I've found some stuff A LOT like DO-ABLE! Its a 4x8 piece at rainy Day art supply in Grosse Pointe Mi. Also in Mi is a place called Magic graphics, they also have a foam board a lot like DO-ABLE. Its 4x8 and about 1/4"in thick, (a lil thick than DO-ABLE!) Both sides are smooth but not glossy . i took a 12"x12' sample home and it looks good. Hot spotting doesn't seem its gonna be prob with either board. They both run about 20 bucks. Just a though if youre in MI.
post #122 of 1167
I finally found some at Home Depot. I had the SKU#, double checked it, and even checked the UPC to be sure. I know I found the right stuff, but it's still too heavy.

I had a design in mind where I'd create sort of a freestanding frame for it, like those chalk boards from back in the day. Upon inspecting the Do-Able board though, I realize it's too heavy and will sag or bow too much for my design.

I guess it's back to researching fabrics.
post #123 of 1167
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DK47 View Post

Does anyone live in michigan? I've found some stuff A LOT like DO-ABLE! Its a 4x8 piece at rainy Day art supply in Grosse Pointe Mi. Also in Mi is a place called Magic graphics, they also have a foam board a lot like DO-ABLE. Its 4x8 and about 1/4"in thick, (a lil thick than DO-ABLE!) Both sides are smooth but not glossy . i took a 12"x12' sample home and it looks good. Hot spotting doesn't seem its gonna be prob with either board. They both run about 20 bucks. Just a though if youre in MI.

Just curiosity. Have you directly compared it to Do-able.

If you can, can you do a side by side and post pictures.
post #124 of 1167
I am here in michigan in Grand Rapids. I have tried to find do-able around here and its nowhere to be found.
post #125 of 1167
I think you guys are making this whole thing up.

The Home Depot website has no information for anything under do-able, the part, sku, or model number posted here. I have never seen it in a HD either. Any help on how to find it on the website would be appreciated.
post #126 of 1167
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Do-able appears to be a west coast thing. I can't find it anywhere in Ohio. I am going to go to Lowes/HD/Do It Best and see if any of them have other products made by the same company and see if they will order them for me.

Those guys that do have do-able, how does this compare to duro-therm or parkland polywall?

I just set up high def with my 4805 onto polywall and its pretty darn impressive.

EDIT: Just noticed that Sears sells some do-able products. I'm going to call on Tuesday to see if they will order it for me.

Update: 84 Lumber says no as well, adding them to the list of non-helpfuls with Lowes & HD.

GL
post #127 of 1167
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Originally Posted by jsm88 View Post

I think you guys are making this whole thing up.

From pg 1:

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Originally Posted by skyman00 View Post

From what I've gathered, the eastern HDs don't sell Do-able. Sorry this doesn't help you eastern guys. -j
post #128 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Rahl View Post

Just curiosity. Have you directly compared it to Do-able.

If you can, can you do a side by side and post pictures.


They are closed for the Holiday, as soon as I can i will do that.
post #129 of 1167
Thread Starter 
Awesome!
post #130 of 1167
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Originally Posted by gonelong View Post

Do-able appears to be a west coast thing. I can't find it anywhere in Ohio. I am going to go to Lowes/HD/Do It Best and see if any of them have other products made by the same company and see if they will order them for me.

Those guys that do have do-able, how does this compare to duro-therm or parkland polywall?

I just set up high def with my 4805 onto polywall and its pretty darn impressive.

EDIT: Just noticed that Sears sells some do-able products. I'm going to call on Tuesday to see if they will order it for me.

GL

So far I have struck out with Lowes and HD, can't order it for me, won't order it for me, or too expensive to ship.

I am giong to try Sears and Do It Best this week, time permitting.

GL
post #131 of 1167
Skyman & Rahl...

I picked up my Do-Able on Friday to mount it over the weekend. I ended up getting tied up with the family (not literaly like in "The Ref") and didn't get around to it.

I got to thinking though. Have you guys come up with a good masking plan to turn your 16:9 into a 2.35:1?

I think Do-Able is the perfect screen to attach some sort of screen masking element to.

Sean
post #132 of 1167
Thread Starter 
What I have thought up was sort of a blind/curtain type contraption using pulleys. The top and bottom curtain would move up and down, while the left and right would move side to side with just the pull of two ropes.

If I were to do it in a dedicated room I would probably use black panels that move.

BUT, time and effort, I don't think, would equal the overall results.

So, I probably won't do it.


P.S. Is that the Do-able in your pictures?
post #133 of 1167
Sean-
Haven't dealt with masking for 2.35:1 yet as it really doesn't bother me when watching. -j
post #134 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Rahl View Post

P.S. Is that the Do-able in your pictures?

That's not the Do-Able in the pictures. That's still the BOC. I was hoping to come up with a nice masking system before hanging the Do-Able. If I can't design/build it soon, the board will go up on it's own.

Sean
post #135 of 1167
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Originally Posted by skyman00 View Post

Haven't dealt with masking for 2.35:1 yet as it really doesn't bother me when watching. -j

You know it's not too bad for me either on the 4805, but I just thought it might dress things up a little bit when watching LOTR or Star Wars, really get that picture to pop!


BTW, do you think it's really neccessary to put a french cleat on the top AND bottom of the Do-Able?

Sean
post #136 of 1167
I put double cleats on mine to help spread the weight/load. There wasn't a whole lot of contact surface after I ripped the 2x4s lengthwise at angle.
I suppose you could get away with just one. You'll want to check down the road for any warpage.

When you get it set up let us know your thougths/findings along with some screenies.

Also, what are your room stats/specs(the ones I asked on pg1)?
-j
post #137 of 1167
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Originally Posted by skyman00 View Post

Some things that we'd like to find out from other users here:

Who out there is using it for their screen?
What PJ are you using?
What's your throw?
What's your size screen?
What's your viewing distance?
What kind of light conditions are you viewing in?
Are you seeing any hotspotting?
If so, are you sure you're using the right board?


Right now I'm using BOC soon to be Do-Able
Infocus 4805
13.5'
105"
14'
Total light control
post #138 of 1167
Thread Starter 
You're going to lose 5 inches?
post #139 of 1167
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Originally Posted by Rahl View Post

You're going to lose 5 inches?

Well, for my seating position and room width, I think it will be a nicer setup.

Bigger, isn't always better! (Don't tell the wife that)

Sean
post #140 of 1167
Interested in which you think works better, Doable or BOC... I have been contemplating both sinc I live in a rental which limits how much damage I can do and have to get it right. I went BOC since it's lighter but always like to hear a direct comparison from one to the other!
post #141 of 1167
Deve-
Check Kevin's screenies, pg 3, post 72 or 73. He's got a strip of do-able laying down the center of his BOC. The top pic is the most telling.

Here's one from Batman Begins.

-j
post #142 of 1167
Hmmm... I do recall seeing those spiderman pics now...

Looks like it migh has the advantage over BOC in terms of gain, any word on how it holds up in ambient light as that is a big concern of mine, I have very little light control.
post #143 of 1167
Aint that great in ambient light. Check post #64, pg 3. Keep in mind, I have a fairly dark viewing room. -j
post #144 of 1167
So I went and grabbed the DO-Able and placed it in front of the BOC screen I have been using and took some pics.

I have to admit, the Do-Able looks better in person than in the pictures, but I think on a couple of shots you can tell.

I have total light control, and a 4805 projecting from 13.5' away

The BOC screen is on top and the Do-Able is on the bottom. If you look close you can see the shift in the screen where the Do-Able screen is in front.









Again, I think the Do-Able is better in person. It has sort of a "punchy" look to it, a crispness. I found myself anticipating a pan shot moving into the Do-Able just to see the improvement in the picture.

Sean
post #145 of 1167
After following many threads on screens to buy and DIY screens, I went to the Home Depot (I live north of Seattle), and bought a sheet. It was a little over $14. I made sure to get an unblemished sheet, and then had to fight like blazes to get the darned thing in my wife's SUV. It was hanging out a good couple of feet in the rain, but I had the backside facing the rain. I got it home in twelve minutes, wiped off the backside, and let it dry in the media room while I ran a few errands.
I mounted it by myself, using a setup you haven't mentioned here. Since the screen is wider by a significant amount than it needs to be, I used the excess on the sides as my mounting platform. I drilled a small hole in each of the four corners, exactly one inch in and one inch down from the sides. I then carefully measured the wall for the first mount (top-right), and put a drywall anchor in that spot. I mounted the first corner and let the opposite end rest on the carpeted floor. I lifted the opposite end until it was level (I had a good HD show paused on the projector with a bright full-screen image, which with a nearly seven-foot wide image worked very well) and marked the spot with a nail through the hole in the Do-able. I let the screen down and put a drywall anchor in. I put a screw (and washer) through the Do-able and mounted it in the drywall anchor. I put both screws about halfway in, to provide support but leave flexibility.
I then marked the two lower holes with a nail, and pushed the Do-able away from the wall enough to use a stubby screwdrive to mount the drywall anchors (self-tapping), and then I put in the lower two screws. Tightened all four screws and voila - done. The screen side of the Do-able had gotten some rainwater splashed on it during the ride, and I wiped it off with a damp paper towel. No problem whatsoever. I used a large washer with each screw to provide extra support.
I had leaned the Do-able against my temporary screen (screen material stapled to the wall) earlier, and it was noticeably brighter and sharper than the screen I was going to use. I have looked at Stewart screens in showrooms and I don't think they look any better than this. It's kind of incredible. I have an Optoma H79 projector, and a Denon 3806 amp, with three Infinity front speakers and five Bose rears, plus a JBL sub, so it's not like I needed to go cheap here, but this is as nice a screen as I have seen, and it was significantly easier to mount than anything else I looked at.
Please tell me how to post pictures and I'll gladly do it. AVS is an incredible forum. Thanks, everyone!!! Rob
post #146 of 1167
Thread Starter 
Rob-

Outstanding Job!!!

Glad everything worked for you. As for pictures, use photobucket.com to upload photos to. Very easy.

Sean-
Great captures! I like how in the Do-able part you can actually see more detail like the brick design on Spidey's suit.
post #147 of 1167
Thread Starter 
Okay, who's ready for some new screen captures?
Do remember, that I am using a Kodak Easyshare 3.1 megapixel camera from 14 feet back (right under projector) zoomed in to fill display. The pictures are quite alot darker than in person and lose some of the finer details of the picture.

The first 3 show how well the Do-Able holds up against Ambient light.
Description is above photo.

No lights (completely dark)


One lamp on 3 feet to the right side, 2 feet back from screen.


2 lamps on. Same one as before, plus one more 14 feet back to the right.


Both lamps on, as well as ceiling fan.


With one to two lamps, the picture is still very watchable. But with the overhead light, it washes out a lot of the picture detail.
post #148 of 1167
Thread Starter 
And just regular screens of heros.


The "Man"



Screens from "Sky High"




More of our favorite Spider.




Now all of you that keep buggin me about screenshots, leave me alone. Just joking.
post #149 of 1167
Rob-
Glad to hear that you're pleased with the do-able! To link pics, go to imageshack or photobucket (.com, of course) and register. There are others as well. It's free. Upload your pics there and post your message here while linking to the image hosting site.
HTH.

Sean-
Nice shots! Great job!! What size screen did you end up with?
post #150 of 1167
Actually I am going to do something very simialar to Rob!! I'll end up with a 100" screen. The extra width will be used to mount to the wall, as well as mount masking harware to.
I have an idea in my head about masking that involves some black velvet, copper pipe and a couple of tea cup hooks or the like. We'll see how it goes. I still need to swing by and pick up some molding for the frame, and some spray glue.
I will deffinetly post picks of the process and finished product when I'm done.

Sean
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