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post #241 of 4308
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Originally Posted by dt_dc View Post

Some are purely software based. But, some, like the "Media Switch" patent seem like ... well, at the very least a combination of hardware and the software that uses it.

EXACTLY
post #242 of 4308
Does anyone notice a slight delay in the optical audio? When I listen to the audio through my TV sent via HDMI I do not notice this delay. However, when using the TV only as a monitor and the audio to the receiver via optical out (from 6416) I notice a slight delay in audio. This is confirmed by listening to the TV audio and the audio from the receiver and hearing a definite echo. I am now running the HDMI to my TV and the optical out from my TV to my receiver, both audios match up with the picture.
post #243 of 4308
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Originally Posted by mjwedeking View Post

Does anyone notice a slight delay in the optical audio? When I listen to the audio through my TV sent via HDMI I do not notice this delay. However, when using the TV only as a monitor and the audio to the receiver via optical out (from 6416) I notice a slight delay in audio. This is confirmed by listening to the TV audio and the audio from the receiver and hearing a definite echo. I am now running the HDMI to my TV and the optical out from my TV to my receiver, both audios match up with the picture.

You should probably just keep the digital audio looped through the TV via HDMI from the STB, this way you will still get the same quality of digital audio, but without the delay.
post #244 of 4308
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Originally Posted by twitchee3 View Post

You should probably just keep the digital audio looped through the TV via HDMI from the STB, this way you will still get the same quality of digital audio, but without the delay.

Looping the audio through the TV doesn't work that well for my TV (HP MD6580n). If I do that, I only get DD 2.0 sound. Not sure if it's due to the HDMI negotiations between the STB and the TV, or if it has something to do with restrictions imposed due to redistribution of digital content. So the only way for me to get DD 5.1 sound is to pump the digital audio straight to my AVR from the STB.

That being said, I believe the delay is due to DD processing time in the AVR.
post #245 of 4308
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Originally Posted by pestep View Post

Looping the audio through the TV doesn't work that well for my TV (HP MD6580n). If I do that, I only get DD 2.0 sound. Not sure if it's due to the HDMI negotiations between the STB and the TV, or if it has something to do with restrictions imposed due to redistribution of digital content. So the only way for me to get DD 5.1 sound is to pump the digital audio straight to my AVR from the STB.

That being said, I believe the delay is due to DD processing time in the AVR.

That's odd, since the audio signal is purely digital, there should be a way for you to loop DD 5.1 through the TV to the A/V receiver, but i guess the TV is doing something that prohibits this, bummer.
post #246 of 4308
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Originally Posted by mjwedeking View Post

Does anyone notice a slight delay in the optical audio? When I listen to the audio through my TV sent via HDMI I do not notice this delay. However, when using the TV only as a monitor and the audio to the receiver via optical out (from 6416) I notice a slight delay in audio. This is confirmed by listening to the TV audio and the audio from the receiver and hearing a definite echo. I am now running the HDMI to my TV and the optical out from my TV to my receiver, both audios match up with the picture.

You might want to check the settings on your receiver. When I bought my receiver, it had a setting for audio delay. It was set to have a slight delay, presumably to account for time for the sound to run through, but I changed it to no delay and it all sounds right.
post #247 of 4308
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Originally Posted by mjwedeking View Post

Does anyone notice a slight delay in the optical audio? When I listen to the audio through my TV sent via HDMI I do not notice this delay. However, when using the TV only as a monitor and the audio to the receiver via optical out (from 6416) I notice a slight delay in audio. This is confirmed by listening to the TV audio and the audio from the receiver and hearing a definite echo. I am now running the HDMI to my TV and the optical out from my TV to my receiver, both audios match up with the picture.

I notice the delay now too. But only recently. Seems after I got the firmware update, and I get the DD. Was using the HDMI and coax digital before never noticed it. Now that I'm getting DD I see the delay. My tv doesn't have digital audio in/outs and my receiver doesn't have delay capabilities

Guess I'm out of luck.
post #248 of 4308
Like pestep my tv does not pass DD 5.1 either. I only get DD 2.0 to the receiver from the TV. I don't see any setting in the AVR for delay settings. I guess that is why I have not canceled my DirecTiVo yet. I tend to go back to that when watching non HD programming, it is a lot easier and friendlier to use.
post #249 of 4308
Just logged on here and found out about the recent upgrade. It fixed my HDCP issue that was occurring with my JVC AV receiver / HDMI switcher. Also found the "Advance" control on my Harmony to enable the 30 second skip. I'm much more happy with this setup now.

If it wasnt for this forum I probably never would have known. Thanks everyone!
post #250 of 4308
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Originally Posted by Gallo47 View Post

I'm having a problem with the HDMI connection through my AV receiver. I have the QIP6416 and a JVC RX-D401S Receiver that does HDMI switching. I tried connecting the hdmi out on the DVR to one of the HDMI ins on the receiver, then the hdmi out on the receiver to my hdtv (Samsung HL-R6768W.)

When connected like this, I cannot view the image from the 6416 on my TV. I turn everything on and set the proper inputs on the Receiver and TV. Everything flashes a few times, then I see a message on the screen saying something like "The HDCP signal is corrupt, connect the equipment with the component inputs instead." (That is not verbatim but I can't remember the exact text.)

Now I have no idea which component is generating that message. For the moment I have had to use the HDMI 2 input on my TV to connect the 6416, but then I have to listen to the sound through the TV speakers. And this setup defeats the purpose of having an HDMI switching receiver.

Does anyone have any idea what is wrong here? Please don't tell me I can't use an HDMI switcher with the 6416!

My FiOS DVR is connected via an HDMI-DVI cable to a DVI/DVI switchbox, then DVI-HDMI cable to my projector (it's a long story). Anyway, I occasionally (infrequently) get a similar message, which I presume is coming from the projector (Sony Cineza HS-51).

I can always eliminate the error by turning the DVR and projector off, cycling the video switchbox between its two inputs, then turning everything back on.
post #251 of 4308
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Originally Posted by Gallo47 View Post

Just logged on here and found out about the recent upgrade. It fixed my HDCP issue that was occurring with my JVC AV receiver / HDMI switcher. Also found the "Advance" control on my Harmony to enable the 30 second skip. I'm much more happy with this setup now.

Glad to hear your HDCP issue is resolved. Would you mind providing further details about the connection you're utilizing between your 6416 and your RX-D401S? In other words, are you using a separate optical/coaxial audio cable? Or are you getting 5.1 through your HDMI cable as well? Thanks.
post #252 of 4308
I was just doing my monthly check-in to see if Verizon had fixed the HDMI/DD 5.1 bug yet. I'm in the D/FW area, so hopefully my box was upgraded with the rest of the local users. I'll find out this evening!
post #253 of 4308
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Originally Posted by billodom View Post

Glad to hear your HDCP issue is resolved. Would you mind providing further details about the connection you're utilizing between your 6416 and your RX-D401S? In other words, are you using a separate optical/coaxial audio cable? Or are you getting 5.1 through your HDMI cable as well? Thanks.

I'm using only the HDMI cable for video and audio from the 6416 to the JVC. I am not real savvy with audio gear, but I can tell you that (for certain broadcasts) my receiver flashes "DOLBY DIGITAL" and all 5 of my speakers work. Does that qualify as 5.1? It definitely sounds better than the TV speakers I was using before!
post #254 of 4308
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Originally Posted by Gallo47 View Post

I'm using only the HDMI cable for video and audio from the 6416 to the JVC. I am not real savvy with audio gear, but I can tell you that (for certain broadcasts) my receiver flashes "DOLBY DIGITAL" and all 5 of my speakers work. Does that qualify as 5.1? It definitely sounds better than the TV speakers I was using before!

Thanks for the feedback. Have you been into the User Settings screen of the 6416? You access it by turning off the 6416 and pressing Menu. The latest upgrade now has a section called Additional HDMI Settings. Selecting that takes you to a new menu and one of the options is Audio Output. There are three choices: Auto, L-PCM and Pass-Through. I'm wondering if these audio modes are functional when connected solely via HDMI. One way to tell they are functional would be to view a program in 5.1 audio and toggle to L-PCM mode. Your JVC should then change over from Dolby Digital to Pro Logic mode. I am also interested in what the difference is between Auto mode and Pass-Through mode. These audio modes are not functional when running a separate optical/coaxial audio cable.

If you have a chance to experiment with it, I would really appreciate it.
post #255 of 4308
Hello all. I had my DVR installed a week ago in the Tampa, FL area. No HDMI/Dolby with my unit and overall the DVR is a huge improvement over the Brighthouse box. For two days in a row now, the Colbert Report recordings stop about 10 minutes into the show, the screen turns black and the program appears to jump to the end. It shows that the whole 33 minutes are recorded. Has anyone else had this issue?
post #256 of 4308
Is anyone else in the North Texas market having PQ problems and audio drop out? I am getting very bad periods of pixelation and audio completely going away or dropping out especially on FOX HD. I don't know if it is a DVR problem or isolated to my connection.
post #257 of 4308
I HAVE TO HAVE THE 30 Sec skip. I have been really missing this since i switched over to FIOS from UltimateTV on DTV.

How do I get it? I have the original remote. I also have a MX-600 Remote Theater master if that helps? I have a friend who has comcast with the reciever that looks the same, can I use his remote to progam my learning remote?

Please help


Thanks,

Zeno
post #258 of 4308
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Originally Posted by rpd View Post

Is anyone else in the North Texas market having PQ problems and audio drop out? I am getting very bad periods of pixelation and audio completely going away or dropping out especially on FOX HD. I don't know if it is a DVR problem or isolated to my connection.

I was loosing all video and audio was jumping from 5.1 back to stereo Thursday morning. I just thought it was hangover from the storms the night before.
post #259 of 4308
Yes I too have been having some pixelation and audio dropout here in Keller.
post #260 of 4308
Good to hear...not that you are having issues, but that I'm not the only one. I never seem to have problems with HDNet, Discovery HD, NGHD, or any of the other non-network HD. Really bad with FOX. American Idol, Loop, and OC recorded last week were awful. Were you seeing this live? Any other networks? I hope Verizon has someone monitoring this thread and can figure out the problem. Talking to Verizon is a chore.
post #261 of 4308
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Originally Posted by billodom View Post

If you have a chance to experiment with it, I would really appreciate it.

I will check that out when I get a chance. I did notice those options the other day and they are active for me. I am currently set to auto, and I have a feeling that no matter what I set, it will always revert back. (I have tried changing my 4:3 setting to STRETCH and it works great, but when the box sits for a day or so it reverts back to OFF, so I think there's a bug there or something. Another poster mentioned the same behavior earlier.)

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Originally Posted by rpd View Post

Is anyone else in the North Texas market having PQ problems and audio drop out? I am getting very bad periods of pixelation and audio completely going away or dropping out especially on FOX HD. I don't know if it is a DVR problem or isolated to my connection.

YES, I thought it was my AV receiver, glad to hear its not just me. And yes FOX is the worst.

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Originally Posted by Zeno View Post

I HAVE TO HAVE THE 30 Sec skip.

Find someone with a Harmony 880 and learn the "Advance" code from them. Or be a little sneaky and buy one then use it then return it. Although I would recommend keeping it, it's the best universal I've ever used.
post #262 of 4308
Ok, so I guess there is no-one else having problems with Comedy Central? I figured out that the problem is consistent evey single night, limited to comedy central (for me) and about 1 of 4 times if you replay the show from beginning and fast forward, it will work just fine. So let me ask it differently - does anyone here record the daily show without issues?

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Originally Posted by turbotaz View Post

Hello all. I had my DVR installed a week ago in the Tampa, FL area. No HDMI/Dolby with my unit and overall the DVR is a huge improvement over the Brighthouse box. For two days in a row now, the Colbert Report recordings stop about 10 minutes into the show, the screen turns black and the program appears to jump to the end. It shows that the whole 33 minutes are recorded. Has anyone else had this issue?
post #263 of 4308
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Originally Posted by turbotaz View Post

Ok, so I guess there is no-one else having problems with Comedy Central? I figured out that the problem is consistent evey single night, limited to comedy central (for me) and about 1 of 4 times if you replay the show from beginning and fast forward, it will work just fine. So let me ask it differently - does anyone here record the daily show without issues?

Sorry, doesn't pertain to the question, but i heard the Daily Show and HAD to say something, JON STEWART is awesome!!! Did you see Ted Kennedy on last night? Man he's been getting some important guests, i mean he had Bill Clinton on the show a while back.

Sorry about the off topic post, mod delete if necessary.
post #264 of 4308
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Originally Posted by billodom View Post

These audio modes are not functional when running a separate optical/coaxial audio cable.

Hi Bill, thanks for pointing me to this thread from the "install" thread.

At first I thought these were functional using optical, but I did some more experimenting and found you're right, doesn't seem to make a diff which option I choose. Kinda weird. But hey, I got DD now, I'm ok with them not "reverting" me.

Seems like V* has a different "mix" in DD than E* has, I used to have my center channel turned up quite a bit w/ E*, but I have now put it back to neutral w/ V*.
post #265 of 4308
Hi, new here...need some help solving a few problems.

Okay I have a QIP6416 and I'm using it with a HD 26" TV. Everything is fine with this set up. HD looks stunning!

Here is the problem...On the other side of the room I recently picked up a Samsung 910mp 19" Monitor/LCD TV. It has a audio/video inputs/s-video/and coax input. Now when I used a splitter and ran a singal to the coax on the 19" I only get a 10-15 channels. I don't know if that's normal but I've tried changing the options (i.e, standard and ota) OTA I get only 4-5 channels but with the standard cable I get 10-15 channels. I also tried connecting s-video from back of the cable box and I seem to get all the channels but no sound. The other problem with the s-video connection is I can't change the channels unless it's from the box which negates having a 2nd tv. So now what can I do to get the maximum amount of channels with audio on the 2nd tv with
1. Not having to buy a 2nd box
2. I can control the channels on the tv
3. Did I mention audio?

I don't see any coax output from the cable box nor do I see any audio/video outputs whcih aren't alreayd taken by my main tv.

When I had COX I had a TV downstairs that was barely used so I wanted some channels on it. The rep came and just connected a coax straight to the tv w/out a box and I got all the standard channels upto 80-90. I don't see why I can't get the same results here? Am I doing something wrong or is it just not possible to connect a 2nd tv and get the standard 70-80 channels (fox, nbc, comcast, espn discovery etc)?

What do I need to do? Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
TIA
post #266 of 4308
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Originally Posted by jsrule7 View Post

I don't see why I can't get the same results here? Am I doing something wrong or is it just not possible to connect a 2nd tv and get the standard 70-80 channels (fox, nbc, comcast, espn discovery etc)?

What do I need to do? Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
TIA

With a straight coax and no box you only get below channel 41 here in Keller. I have a splitter on the line and have it hooked up for PIP. You are correct that cable gave more channels without a box.
Hope that helps.
post #267 of 4308
hey thanks for the reply! i guess that's the way fios is...most are digital channels that have to go through the box
post #268 of 4308
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Originally Posted by jsrule7 View Post

hey thanks for the reply! i guess that's the way fios is...most are digital channels that have to go through the box

I strongly suspicion that FIOS has almost all digital channels, so that means you will only be able to get the analog channels by hooking the coax straight to the box. Other than that, the box can only display one channel at a time, no matter how many A/V outputs the box has.
post #269 of 4308
I'm thinking of getting a second box and putting it in the same room as my first one. Is there a way to set the remotes so they don't interfere with each other? I looked all over the manual and setup and can't find anything. That was one of the nice features on the TiVo.
post #270 of 4308
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Originally Posted by dmbatch View Post

I'm thinking of getting a second box and putting it in the same room as my first one. Is there a way to set the remotes so they don't interfere with each other? I looked all over the manual and setup and can't find anything. That was one of the nice features on the TiVo.

All Moto DCT/QIP series STB use only 1 IR Code setup for remote commands. (The Same One)
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