Verizon FiOS QIP6416 DVR - Master Topic! - Page 10

In the No VA area it's 318 to 21 the number of digital vs. analog stations.

Most cable cos will switch to this ratio and after 2009, you'll be hard pressed to find any analog channels. Granted a number of those digital channels might be in the clear.

S-video is just that - video only - you have to use the audio connection with it to get audio.

Where we are serviced by Adelphia in SoCal, we still receive ALL basic cable channels (2-78 and CSPAN (98-99)) in analog format, and then we receive only the 100 + digital basic and digital plus, as well as music, VOD, PPV, and HD channels in digital format. I do not want them to go to digital only in the near future as we have several TV's that do NOT use STB's, and we also have 3 computers with analog PCI TV tuners that necessitate the analog broadcast to function for channels 2-78 +98,99. I would rather have them simulcast analog basic (2-78) AND digital, so ALL channels are digital for rooms with an STB (for better quality and tuning) and then all basic cable channels are analog as well for TV's, TV Tuners without digital capabilities.

Crap, I never realized (nor thought of) that. I was thinking about switching to FiOS from D*, but that's a deal breaker.

yeah I'm in the Mclean area as well and what biker said is exactly correct. I only had about 20 or so channels showing up when it was connected straight from coax to the tv...It's a bummer but I guess there's no point of having 2 tv's in the same room. What worked for me is I got 2 y-adapters and plugged them in the L-R-audio and the video in the video so now I get all the channels and SOUND but it's controlled by the box. So not complete freedom but I don't mind because FIOS is saving me a lot of money compared to the evil cox corp! It's mostly for PIP so it's not THAT big of an issue but I wouldn't have minded if it was the same format as cox so i could get 80-90 anagal channels.

Thanks for the input! Appreciate it...
Jsrule7

I posted this in the install thread also - watch for the networking feature of the DVR and other STBs to be turned on o/a May 28.

I talked to some people at a FIOS booth in Southlake, TX yesterday. I guess you can take this for what it's worth, those people in the booth aren't usually very tech savy. One woman in a green shirt, the others had on red, said that the networking feature was in testing at employee homes. She also said it was a different box than the DVR in use now. Her rollout date for the feature was a timid "before the end of the year".

Verizon is running a real thick cream color fiber optic cable in my apartments is this FIOS you'll are talking about???

I noticed last night that the rewind after FF seems to be a little longer than when first implemented. Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?

I am a Verizon customer and employee in north TX. I recently got FiOS video service and am more than happy. I can tell you that the employee trial of DVR networking has not started yet. I am on the list to be part of this trial when it starts in a couple of weeks.

I'll post here once I am set up to let you guys know how it is... unless, of course, I'm prohibited by an NDA =/

160g is not enough, but it's a lot more than I apparently got. As of yesterday I had FIOS installed with a Motorola box model QIP6416-2. I noticed that I could record only about 3 hrs of HD, so called the service rep. He claimed that there was only an 80g drive!!! Can anyone confirm that the newer box (I assume it is newer because of the -2 designation) has this smaller drive on it? By the way, this is service in Lynnfield, Massachusetts.

No it has 160 GB HD w/ Aprox 143 - 146 GB set aside for the DVR.

the last 2 Digits in the STB Model number tells you the size of the HDD...

QIP6416-2

QIP - Format
6416 - 6400 series STB w/ 160 GB
-2 -- Phase 2


6408 would be the 80 gig HDD version.
6412 would be the 120 GB HDD version
6432 would be the 320 GB HDD version

Thanks for the quick reply. If you are right, then I should be expecting on the order of 16 hours or so of HD record time assuming a rate of 20 Mbits per second.

145GB = 1160Gb capacity in gigabits
1160 Gb / 20 Mb = 58000 capacity in seconds
58000 / 3600 = 16.1 capacity in hours

Is this the right? Have others with this model been able to record 16 hours of HD?

Thanks again.

Recording time will vary by what the HD network's bit rate is set to. They change it for various shows and it also depends on if they have any sub channels.

OK, but if I am getting only 3 hours of record time, that is probably not attributable to a network having a bit rate of 100Mbit per second, or do you think that is possible?

On average, each hour of HD recording on my QIP consumes (according to the QIP) about 5% of the available recording space. An hour of SD consumes roughly 1%.

This would infer a recording capacity of 20 hours of HD. I don't know that I've gotten it up to the limit as yet, but I have seen this estimated number before as well.

The STB software made by Microsoft is not Windows based, and is not any more hackable than the same box with iGuide, passport, etc. software. The Motorola/Scientific Atlanta boxes ARE INCREDIBLY resistant to hacks. If you want to hack an STB, get a TiVo Series 2 or an HD TiVo, other than that, you're SOL.

The base OS is Linux. The guide and menu interface software is written by Microsoft. Yes, I agree, there would be a slim to none chance of hacking the STB. Get a Tivo or Replay TV DVR if you are looking for an easy hack/Mod.

Has anyone in the DFW area been having trouble with their boxes missing parts of shows when recording? Sunday night I only got the first 30 minutes of one show, and last night it missed a random 10 minutes in the middle of 24.

My neighbor across the street lost all of their recordings last week also. Their list still shows the recordings, but they won't play when you try to play them.

Were you recording 2 shows at the same time? If you changed the channel while both tuners were being used, you could have hijacked one of the tuners. This would have stopped the recording. When you went back to the 24 channel, it would start up again.

Your neighbors situation - Their box needs to be replaced. There is something screwy about it. There should be no reason that there are shows listed in the DVR Recordings section, but no shows are actually recorded. What is their "recording space" showing up as? (in the DVR recording menu in the lower left hand corner) The hard drive may be going bad too.

For some reason a call to Verizon to reset the DVR seems to fix problems like this - had them before and the reset cured the issue.

Verizon was able to fix ours this way also ... the first, second, third, fourth, etc. time it happened. Any chance this is a hardware problem?

More than likely software. I am sure they are working on it. When they send it the "reset" it basically re-downloads some of the software again. There may be some kind of corruption occuring and the reset reloads the software curing the problem until the corruption happens again.

MJ

I just noticed a great feature this box has that my HD TiVo did not. On Thursday when ER starts 1 minute early it give me a conflict because I'm recording CSI and OC at 9. It gives 2 options when it sees the conflict, record the new show or record the old show. The TiVo did the same thing but if you selected record the old show it completely cancelled the new one. This DVR keeps the new show in the que, labels it as a conflict, and when one of the old shows stops recording it starts recording the new one. So I miss the first minute of ER but it's usually just recaps anyway.

Um, there is no HD Tivo unit yet. And also, the Series 2, as of maybe 2 months ago introduced the ability to "clip" the recordings so that it didn't completely cancel the overlap.

There's an HD Directivo.

Apparently my HD 10-250 didn't get that update.

I guess those thousands, possibly millions, of users with the HR10-250 are just imagining that they have an HD DVR using the TiVo service.................. thanks for letting us all know it doesn't exist

You're right, I totally forgot about the DTV units. But those aren't made anymore, right? And millions of them? More like thousands

Although I'm not so sure how well an HD DTV Tivo unit would work with Verizon FIOS.

Yes, they're still made and available.


It wouldn't work, but the features can still be compared (which is what he was doing)