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post #61 of 139
One more
post #62 of 139
Ahhhh, my love ....








post #63 of 139
Your place is really groovy and the pj fits. (seriously, far out man!)

You SERIOUSLY need to take that thing apart and clean the optics. The picture could be so much better it's not even funny. Also that screen could be used with a high resolution modern crt front projector like what most of us use if/when anything ever goes wrong with that one. You could have full HDTV and native PC resolutions with that thing.

Pass left

Troy
post #64 of 139
Really nice looking room there, everything matches so well!

Is that a vintage pair of speakers from an old console radio there? They look neat.

And yes, do clean the optics and tweak focus on that projector. Also, maybe try a screenshot with something stationary such as a DVD player on pause. Would get rid of the motion blur.

And if that projector ever quits, it looks like the outer table part would fit around a Sony 1031Q or something of similar size witout too much trouble. The screen is cool looking. What is the surface made out of, and can it be cleaned?
post #65 of 139
I need to know how to do that. I have taken the outside casing off as of today to decide just how to do that but I am leary. How would be the best way to clean the optics? I beleive the screen is aluminum.
post #66 of 139
Oh and yes thoughs are antique speakers and I have the matching cabinet in the other room. I thank you for the comments on the room, now please help me.
post #67 of 139
You're kind of going to have to help yourself with opening it up to clean it. Previously in this thread there was a little detail but nobody else here is likely to know that old machine right now who's going to chime in immediately and tell you step by step how to do it. Someone who has one of these may not see this thread for another year.

It's not rocket science. If you see a panel in your way of cleaning something take it off. Things won't come flying out. Unplug the thing and let it sit for an hour before going inside and then you can't get shocked. Take things out and put them back in just the way you found it, except clean. You should get all the dust out as best you can off all the electronics so it doesn't overheat and pull the lenses off to wipe the dust off both sides of the lenses and off the faces of the crt. If you need to use a liquid for the glass and lenses use plain water and a super soft cloth.

If you simply cannot figure it out there are service manuals you can pay to download from freebrd and on ebay.

I've never seen the insides or I'd try to help you more. I'll be picking up one of those screens tomorrow in fact but I'm not paying the $50 the guy wants for the pj that goes with it, I'm only getting the screen.

Troy
post #68 of 139
Dont touch the master controls on a 26 year old TV
post #69 of 139
Master controls? What are you talking about? Convergence? G2? Focus?
If you haven't adjusted the thing you should.

26 years old or not makes no difference at all.

Troy
post #70 of 139
Well troy, have you worked on alot of 26 year old TV's, as I recall about 4 inches above this post you were a slightly less then condicending in your help of "just put it back just clean" quite the mass of knowlege you are. My tepidness with cleaning the projector wasnt for ignorance but for love, 26 years of no maintnence and I decide to open it. That is worrysome. As for what Im talking about as for master controls im speaking of the 38 analog controls. The picture was always slightly tilted I decided to fix that. Hope the torus (screen) turned out good.

Justun
post #71 of 139
As a matter of fact I've worked on more crt projectors (many of which were 80's machines) than you could imagine. I told you I am not familiar with that specific model so I don't know what panels need taken off etc etc for your machine but I gave you general information on what to do. I was the only one to give you any assitance whatsoever and spoke the truth but instead of thanking me you call my response "just less than condeceding". Sometimes the truth hurts, but everything I have said is correct.

Wow... Well you're welcome anyway I guess.

As for not adjusting the thing because it's 26 years old, well, that is just wrong. Poor thing needs adjustment every single time it's moved, and typically every six months a touchup is required. You should do a full convergence and clean everything and adjust everything but I guess it's up to you if you would rather watch a projector that hasn't been converged cleaned or adjusted in 26 years.

Yes I can be short, and I can be a smartass, but I'm also helping people I don't even know, for free, with nothing to gain other than for my love of the hobby. In other words try not to bite the only hand that feeds you.

I'm guessing you need more info to do this right and since I'm not patient enough to type 10 pages to tell you how to do it all, maybe you should go to www.curtpalme.com and download the free manuals for sony 10xx machines like a 1042q or similar. The basics of how it works and how it's adjusted are the same. If you love the machine as much as you say you should take care of it properly. That includes cleaning and adjusting it.

http://www.eboyztoyz.com/article.php?ncat=00132 also has lots of good basic info for fixing up an old machine.

By the way things from the 80's are not antiques. It's older than what most here have but it's not old enough to be called an antique and you can still find them used, and still working, quite inexpensively. You can have this thing working like new or not. Up to you. The absolute worst thing for projectors is giving them no maintenance at all and just letting them fill with dust and grime until they kill themselves.

There, I was more helpful and I tried to keep the condecending part to a minimum.

Troy
post #72 of 139
It is funny to me how you continue to pat your self on the back for all of the "HELP" you have given to me. Did I miss somthing.........know.. I thought maybe you had said something that would have helped, but after looking over the posts I realize you must be feeding someone else with that hand, because if it was me I would be starving to death.

Anyways, yes I know a 26 year old TV needs to be cleaned and tweeked to get the picture that it is capable of. Why do you think I was looking for any "real" "help" why do you think I came to this site. To see if someone had delt with one before, if someone else might have one, this is viable info. So if you would like to pat yourself on the back concerning my KP do some home work. Find a clear picture of the analog board, do somthing other then talk about how helpful you are.

Oh quick question, are you using your screen for a new pj or what. You were talking about how I could use it with a new projector, how do new projectors act tward the surface? I had heard they work better with white is this true or false. Do you have a new pj, what kind, what is the estimated time they last for? I have heard you have to replace a tube a year. Still worth it, but is it because they send them out of the factory projecting to 120" and that is to much for the projector and it gives out? Just my thoughts. I will never go back to anything else, I will have a new projector soon, and I plan on using my screen, I plan on dying owning that screen
Justun
post #73 of 139
You must be completely mental. I'm not going to answer a single question or do anything for you now.

Have fun on your own.

Troy
post #74 of 139
And I thought we were just becoming friends. Best wishes.

Justun
post #75 of 139
Lets try to keep this thread civil, although its not really out of hand just yet.
Honestly, I'm leaning closer to Troy's side...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justun View Post

...Oh quick question, are you using your screen for a new pj or what. You were talking about how I could use it with a new projector, how do new projectors act tward the surface? I had heard they work better with white is this true or false. Do you have a new pj, what kind, what is the estimated time they last for? I have heard you have to replace a tube a year. Still worth it, but is it because they send them out of the factory projecting to 120" and that is to much for the projector and it gives out? Just my thoughts. I will never go back to anything else, I will have a new projector soon, and I plan on using my screen, I plan on dying owning that screen
Justun

To answer your questions: First, fresh tubes will last around 10,000 hours, but much much more with a screen like that if you keep the contrast reasonable with that screen. It should have a gain of atleast 6-7, and is quite small, so fresh tubes could last you 30,000 hours or more. Unless you run if full brightness 24/7, it should last much longer than a year!

The screen is great for CRT, although may cause hotspotting and color shifting. But its brightness and contrast would be stunning compared to a white screen of the same size.

Almost all CRT projectors can be adjusted for other screen sizes besides 120". Seems like a reasonable size though! Especially for 8/9" tubed units. I doubt there are many that can do as low as 50" though! Lenses just wont focus...

Cheers,
Alex
post #76 of 139
Well thanx for the respose. I am glad to hear that it will still work well with a new projector. 120 is a reasonable size but I dont have a wall that will fit a 10' screen, nor do I have enough room to make a projection that big, but like I said I like my 72" and will probably always use it.

c-ya
Jusutn
post #77 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justun View Post

Well thanx for the respose. I am glad to hear that it will still work well with a new projector. 120 is a reasonable size but I dont have a wall that will fit a 10' screen, nor do I have enough room to make a projection that big, but like I said I like my 72" and will probably always use it.

c-ya
Jusutn

Woops, sorry, thought you had the 50" one. Most projectors should work fine at 72". Damn I wish I could find a nice 72" silver torus locally

Cheers,
Alex
post #78 of 139
I have found some talk of people selling them but nothing more then the simple google and I sure you have seen those, and your key word being local is a hard one. I got lucky, my father-in-law bought my TV in 1980 for a good bit and has kept it pristine. I dont know if you have seen a torus up close but they dont fit the times back then to me they seem very up to date to our standards, well minus the fact it isnt a flat screen. I will keep my eyes open for you, what is local?

Justun
post #79 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justun View Post

I have found some talk of people selling them but nothing more then the simple google and I sure you have seen those, and your key word being local is a hard one. I got lucky, my father-in-law bought my TV in 1980 for a good bit and has kept it pristine. I dont know if you have seen a torus up close but they dont fit the times back then to me they seem very up to date to our standards, well minus the fact it isnt a flat screen. I will keep my eyes open for you, what is local?

Justun


Sounds good, local is not too far from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Let me know if you find anything over 72" in size!

Thanks,
Cheers,
Alex
post #80 of 139
Yea, cleaning the lenses and converging the picture properly makes a difference. Just look at the picture of my TV on, on the previous page with Sonic. I would say that is almost looks like it could be a new tv. Warning though, be very very careful if you touch the convergence controls. It took me several hours to get mine right, alot of it was fixing what I messed up.
post #81 of 139
Your pic is quite good. I went through the same thing you did having to fix what I messed up which I havent gotten all the kinks back out yet but I will. You have a nice set up as well. Here in the next week or two I'm going to get a new one its a cannon. I have a friend that works at electronic express that can get me anything I want with a 40% discount, and I have decided that I will probably not out live my pj.

Justun
post #82 of 139
What's Up Guys, I Have Recently Aquired One Of These Sets And I'm Curious, What Is It Worth These Days? Anyone With Answers Or Question Please Contact Me At Myspace/wickedminds Thanks Eddie...
post #83 of 139
I finally got a projector TV and will give away my KP5000 w/remote to anyone that will come and get it. I live about 30 miles north of Panama City, FL (near I-10). It still works but needs a good lens cleaning and adjustment.
post #84 of 139
Email is jerry at lords com
post #85 of 139
Wow boys and girls...I just came apon my very own Kp5000 we live in an Apt. place and low a behold there was one in the parking garage with a "works" note on it and the sweet word "FREE"..well being the pack rat I am it is now in my place...great picture..does not look bad for as old as it is...but there is no sound...no remote either...any idea about the sound thing.
post #86 of 139
There were several of these on ebay Australia a month or so ago that didn't sell, starting bid was AU$100.

WORKS and FREE are the 2 best words when it comes to anything, especially electronics and even more especially CRT projectors.
post #87 of 139
Still have the KP5000 if anyone wants it.
Still works and have remote.
FREE! Come and get it!
Email me at.
jerry
lords
com
post #88 of 139
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Originally Posted by notwo View Post

Speaking of behemoths, does anyone out there have the bigger brother, the 6 foot KP-7200?

Nope, but did get a 7220 this afternoon, no screen though. Unfortunately.

Now only a Grundig Super Color 9000 and of course the ultimate style icon the Advent Videobeam 1000A



And my retro collection is complete, as the Saba Telerama's are a bit too retro (i.e. antiques pricing;-)) for me.

Do know some-one here in Holland that has a comparable Panasonic all-in-one unit from '79 as a restauration project. One of those was up for sale on the German Ebay earlier this year as well. So, there are some antiques still out there.
post #89 of 139
Can you post a picture of the 7220. Don't see these very often. I have a KP-5000 with service manual btw if you need any help.
post #90 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post

Can you post a picture of the 7220. Don't see these very often. I have a KP-5000 with service manual btw if you need any help.

The 7220 looks much like the 5220 shown above in the retro decor, with the original screen. This one still has the wood-look sides and isn't painted. It also misses the smoked glass panel on top. Some pictures taken by the guy who wanted to clear it and make some room at his place:

http://www.htforum.nl/yabbse/index.p...230#msg1015230
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