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post #14941 of 34732
Going to take a look at a dh-220 tomorrow. A little on the high side of price at $375 including the 110 preamp, but worth a look. Driving the RT800's with the Denon 1312 seemed weaker on the low end compared to testing them on a Denon 791, so I think I'll hear an improvement there. My main motivator is for future systems, though.

Actually, the main motivator is the fact that my wife said OK. Better do it now while she is for it, right?
post #14942 of 34732
So i keep debating about jumping on these monitor 70s on newegg. rest of the monitors in black are sold out from cyber deal/black friday....

don't want to press buy..... :-p just hard to pass on considering I am still using my old top of the line (at that time) onkyo htib speakers from 10 years ago when I started college with my current 100" projector setup.
Edited by Threefiddie - 11/27/12 at 8:48pm
post #14943 of 34732
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

YES, the midrange in the A9's are the best of all the RTiA line up. The A9 is the top of the line in that series. Secure your doubt and go for the big guns, YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
http://hometheaterreview.com/polk-rti-a9-floorstanding-loudspeakers-reviewed/

Just came back from fry's and demoed A5 and A9 using various types of music I had with me. They were both hooked up with an Onkyo receiver...to me A5 sounded a bit cleaner (perfect for music), whereas A9s obviously had a bit more bass. I guess I'll just stick with my A5s...got those delivered today along with another 40% off coupon @ newegg...which I'll use to buy a good sub (for movies - primary use). For a sub, i'm looking for one with a tight/punchy bass rather than a room shaking/boom...which ones of Polks sub (or any other brand) is good for that? Any parameters I should pay attention to i.e. crossover frequency, woofer size, ported vs sealed etc? My budget is around $200-300.
post #14944 of 34732
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

Just came back from fry's and demoed A5 and A9 using various types of music I had with me. They were both hooked up with an Onkyo receiver...to me A5 sounded a bit cleaner (perfect for music), whereas A9s obviously had a bit more bass. I guess I'll just stick with my A5s...got those delivered today along with another 40% off coupon @ newegg...which I'll use to buy a good sub (for movies - primary use). For a sub, i'm looking for one with a tight/punchy bass rather than a room shaking/boom...which ones of Polks sub (or any other brand) is good for that? Any parameters I should pay attention to i.e. crossover frequency, woofer size, ported vs sealed etc? My budget is around $200-300.

I discovered thru personal experience that the A9's don't sound very good with just an AVR, no matter how "good" the AVR is. They really need a dedicated amplifier. For the sub, I own several Klipsch subs and like them. Most are available from Amazon for around $300 (personally own SW-350, RW-10d, and Synergy Sub-12). Recently I bought a Polk DSW-660 from Newegg using a 40% off coupon but have not put it thru its paces. Whatever you do, do NOT buy a F12 sub if you want "tight" bass.
post #14945 of 34732
Agreed with Rob, the A9's need power to do them the justice they deserve, if you'd read that link to the review I provided, you would have seen that in addition to placement.

Congratulations, A5's are a great score. Sounds like you're happy with them and that's the bottom line. If you can muster a little more in budget, the Epik Legend is a great buy providing it's still on sale for 399, even at reg price at 499 it's a great buy.

Yep, the Legend, 399 + free shipping, bomb deal
post #14946 of 34732
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Agreed with Rob, the A9's need power to do them the justice they deserve, if you'd read that link to the review I provided, you would have seen that in addition to placement.
Congratulations, A5's are a great score. Sounds like you're happy with them and that's the bottom line. If you can muster a little more in budget, the Epik Legend is a great buy providing it's still on sale for 399, even at reg price at 499 it's a great buy.
Yep, the Legend, 399 + free shipping, bomb deal

+1 on the Legend

Keep in mind that this is actually a dual driver sub. So, it is a great deal at this moment.
post #14947 of 34732
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

+1 on the Legend
Keep in mind that this is actually a dual driver sub. So, it is a great deal at this moment.

It's nice deal...but without actually listening to them...I'm a bit hesitant about spending $400. On top of that, there are a lot of complains about their customer service & amps overheating?
post #14948 of 34732
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

It's nice deal...but without actually listening to them...I'm a bit hesitant about spending $400. On top of that, there are a lot of complains about their customer service & amps overheating?

Nice to know that you are an informed customer. Now, having that in mind, how about a SVS sub? Yep, they cost a bit more ($100 more), but they are running a special right now in which you can buy the sub, you can test it at home and if you don't like, well you just simple call them back to return it and that includes "free shipping return".

This is the sub that I'm talking about for your consideration:

http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box/sb-1000


SVS customer service is amazing............first hand experience here.....smile.gif
post #14949 of 34732
I wish the egg would have the RTIA9 on sale again for 399.00. I bought two then, I should have bought 4, 2 for fronts and 2 for wides. I see ebay has them through polk for 499.00 but they are rebuilt ones. Shame on me, just of jumped on 4 new ones, I have seen no sale from the egg at 399.00 since.
post #14950 of 34732
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Originally Posted by 03SONIC View Post

I wish the egg would have the RTIA9 on sale again for 399.00. I bought two then, I should have bought 4, 2 for fronts and 2 for wides. I see ebay has them through polk for 499.00 but they are rebuilt ones. Shame on me, just of jumped on 4 new ones, I have seen no sale from the egg at 399.00 since.


That $399 sale was like Haley's comet...believe you me..I wish i had the resources, If I did, i would have copped a pair and given the A7's to another room!!
post #14951 of 34732
Hey folks,
I'm checking back about my Polk SRT System search. Any news from any of you possible sellers yet?? biggrin.gif
post #14952 of 34732
anybody heard of the BIC Acoustech PL-200 sub? i got it from sounddistributors for $279. paired it with my old polk audio SDA2a's. i powered these with an Adcom GFA-555.

im looking at the lsi25 and RTI12 on ebay for real cheap. please somebody tell me if they're the real deal. im still hesitant about it.
post #14953 of 34732
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

It's nice deal...but without actually listening to them...I'm a bit hesitant about spending $400. On top of that, there are a lot of complains about their customer service & amps overheating?


Customer service isn't the fastest at times but.....they do take care of their customers. I've replaced the amps in both of my Empires and have no prob ems with either after that. Talk to any Epik owner and you'll probably hear the same thing from them.

I too went into Epik blindly after owning two crap down firing subs and was not only pleased, but blown away by the performance.

CR's recommendation of the SVS is also a good one, I was considering that as well prior to my original purchase. But if you're considering the Epik at all, don't hesitate, IF you end up having to replace an amp, it's no big deal and worth the effort.

Oh yeah, forgot to add, Epik also has a 30 day return policy for any reason.

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Originally Posted by jaygax View Post

anybody heard of the BIC Acoustech PL-200 sub? i got it from sounddistributors for $279. paired it with my old polk audio SDA2a's. i powered these with an Adcom GFA-555.
im looking at the lsi25 and RTI12 on ebay for real cheap. please somebody tell me if they're the real deal. im still hesitant about it.

The LSi25 and RTi12 are great speakers, 4ohm and 8ohm respectively and both require POWER to deliver the sound you're hoping for and, they are opposite of sound delivery.......LSi's are reportedly laid back and the RTi's are forward.
Edited by Geoff4RFC - 11/29/12 at 7:38am
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I installed the monitor30's and the CS2 series II center last night to my onkyo nr515 and it sounds good but its such a low volume on everything. Is this due to the area and running audessy? I am at like half volume on the thing and Its not very loud at all. Or maybe i was just expecting something different as this is my first real surround sound setup. my roomate had cheap sony satellites and center with a technics receiver and it sounded WAY louder at 25%.
post #14955 of 34732
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

I installed the monitor30's and the CS2 series II center last night to my onkyo nr515 and it sounds good but its such a low volume on everything. Is this due to the area and running audessy? I am at like half volume on the thing and Its not very loud at all. Or maybe i was just expecting something different as this is my first real surround sound setup. my roomate had cheap sony satellites and center with a technics receiver and it sounded WAY louder at 25%.


I know what you mean. When I had my speakers running off of my AVR, I wasn't that impressed with it. just an AVR will only give you so much performance, and not to discourage you, the 515 is not a beast on power, nor does it have pre-outs for an amp. BUT, maybe fiddling around with your AVR can give you some adjustability to imrove your sound.
post #14956 of 34732
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

I discovered thru personal experience that the A9's don't sound very good with just an AVR, no matter how "good" the AVR is. They really need a dedicated amplifier. For the sub, I own several Klipsch subs and like them. Most are available from Amazon for around $300 (personally own SW-350, RW-10d, and Synergy Sub-12). Recently I bought a Polk DSW-660 from Newegg using a 40% off coupon but have not put it thru its paces. Whatever you do, do NOT buy a F12 sub if you want "tight" bass.

I've been thinking about this last night and be easy on me if I'm wrong. Since I heard both A5 & A9...and A5 sounded better to me....I've been told that was caused by AVR not supplying enough power. But if I use an external amp that supplies more power...wouldn't A9 sound louder? To me...more power = more volume/loudness....no? So if I need to listen to A9s very loud/higher volume to really open these up...then these won't be practical for daily use then?
post #14957 of 34732
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

But if I use an external amp that supplies more power...wouldn't A9 sound louder? To me...more power = more volume/loudness....no? So if I need to listen to A9s very loud/higher volume to really open these up...then these won't be practical for daily use then?

You can tune a piano but you can't tunafish biggrin.gif

Here, give this a read....http://hometheaterreview.com/polk-rti-a9-floorstanding-loudspeakers-reviewed/
post #14958 of 34732
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

You can tune a piano but you can't tunafish biggrin.gif
Here, give this a read....http://hometheaterreview.com/polk-rti-a9-floorstanding-loudspeakers-reviewed/

lol...I've read it twice now smile.gif

This is the only reference to power & sound quality that I found:
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The RTi A9 presents a nominal 8 ohm load with a 91dB efficiency. It needed a solid boost in overall power quality to open up properly, and went up another notch when paired with better quality power sources.

My question still remains...if we use an external amp to provide more power "to open these speakers up properly"...doesn't that imply more loudness/higher volume? I think I'm not getting something confused.gif
post #14959 of 34732
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Originally Posted by Crown7 View Post

That $399 sale was like Haley's comet...believe you me..I wish i had the resources, If I did, i would have copped a pair and given the A7's to another room!!

I watched the A9's dip to $499 again and again. I was often tempted, but it was a giant leap, because I had heard that they required an external amp. Finally one day out of the blue they went on sale at $399 and I just held my breath and did it. I put them where the A7's had been and let them break in. They didn't sound right with my 90wpc Denon, which had always done well with the A7's. Meanwhile, Denon's 2012 product line went on sale to make way for the 2013's, so I bought their 125wpc model to drive the A9's, which sounded better but still not as good as the A7's had sounded.

So I shopped for an external amp. Checked eBay regularly for something affordable. Went thru all kinds of scenarios in my head about mixing 2-channel amps etc. Then Emotiva began their 15% off holiday sale and I bought the XPA-5. It took some doing, but I got everything configured, and the A9's sound GREAT. I even moved the A7's to surround and put the A5's that had been there in the basement, along with all the Monitors. Everything sounds amazing now.

Of course, I've said that before... every time I've upgraded. I guess it's like you can never be to rich or too thin.

EDIT: Correction... Rti8's went to the basement, A5's are in the bedroom (replaced M40's)
Edited by RobLee - 11/29/12 at 3:01pm
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This basically answers my question about Watts vs decibels....everthing makes sense now smile.gif

Posting link so other people may benefit as well:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/power.html
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

This basically answers my question about Watts vs decibels....everthing makes sense now smile.gif
Posting link so other people may benefit as well:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/power.html


Nice article, I loved the closing paragraph "you can never have too much power".

As for the A9's, when I increased the power imput by 100w (from 200 - 300) the sound improved. The A9's are rated at 500w, my goal is to feed them 600w.
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Nice article, I loved the closing paragraph ....

I'm glad the author included the next to last paragraph on "what is too loud", which is a matter of uncomfortable distortion rather than merely decibel level. My wife listens to stuff on her laptop and turns it way up until I say "that's too loud" (meanwhile we're surrounded by tower speakers that are NEVER "too loud").
post #14963 of 34732
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

I'm glad the author included the next to last paragraph on "what is too loud", which is a matter of uncomfortable distortion rather than merely decibel level. My wife listens to stuff on her laptop and turns it way up until I say "that's too loud" (meanwhile we're surrounded by tower speakers that are NEVER "too loud").


Amen to that! Hey Rob, your signature line, is that a line from coming to america?
post #14964 of 34732
With the new found knowledge...I went back to the store to demo A5, A7 and A9. A7 & A9s were hooked up directly with the receiver - so not the ideal environment for those...however, A7 did sound decent.

Anywho, this time I brought more material for the demo and jacked up the volume. What I noticed was that A5s had exceptional clarity and nice bass - not bassless by any means. Infact I'm thinking about holding out on buying a sub until I have these setup at my place to see if I really need a sub - for my needs/taste. Interesting thing is that today I was with a different sales guy and just when I mentioned that I need to demo A5 vs A9...he said that he'd recommend A5 with a nice sub...because quite a few people who bought A9s said that those are 'muddy'. This could very well be a case of uninformed customers hooking A9s directly with a receiver.

Also, I also demoed Polk PSW111 8" sealed subwoofer...it had a punchy bass. I actually liked it over Polk's high-end DSW offering & ported klipsch ones as well - which tend to create a loud reverberating booms vs punches & lesser booms of PSW111. So is this difference primarily because of sealed vs ported design? How do sealed Epik Legends & SVS compare with PSW111?

Now I'm itching to use the 40% off newegg coupon on a A4 center channel. biggrin.gif
post #14965 of 34732
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

This could very well be a case of uninformed customers hooking A9s directly with a receiver.
Now I'm itching to use the 40% off newegg coupon on a A4 center channel. biggrin.gif

Interesting observation. Sooooo, A5's, CSiA4, how'bout looking at the FXiA4's as well? Make a nice 5.1 for you.
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Amen to that! Hey Rob, your signature line, is that a line from coming to america?

Rob is not available right now..........please leave a message after the video:



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Yes, it is indeed from the Matrix, though I was actually thinking of a scene later in the film when Neo repeats the phrase as he is about to blow the elevator cable and hurl himself upwards. It required a tremendous leap of faith... basically what I find myself doing many days. smile.gif
post #14968 of 34732
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Nice article, I loved the closing paragraph "you can never have too much power".
As for the A9's, when I increased the power imput by 100w (from 200 - 300) the sound improved. The A9's are rated at 500w, my goal is to feed them 600w.

Just add a second XPA-2 and you will be very pleased!!!!!!!!

Check you PM and see what I found for you........wink.gif
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

Yes, it is indeed from the Matrix, though I was actually thinking of a scene later in the film when Neo repeats the phrase as he is about to blow the elevator cable and hurl himself upwards. It required a tremendous leap of faith... basically what I find myself doing many days. smile.gif

LOL. Every time when I saw your signature, I was always thinking on the scene that I posted.........time to reset my brain.......cool.gif
post #14969 of 34732
Who wants to find me a free set of 3d glasses, a Oppo 93 and a Onkyo 809 smile.gif.

Actually right now I am trying to hammer down on a phono pre for a free TT I got. Just need to get my Kimber Kable Hero IC's connected to my front 3, my Kimber Kable 8VS for my center and my M1.0t connected up to my LSi 15's smile.gif.

Then just need a nice vintage integrated and connect my computer to it somehow.

I will be posting some massive updates in my personal thread in the next few days/weeks. I also have a hi-fi portable computer system in the works that is about 90% complete and will be rocking my world at work shortly smile.gif.
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Every time when I saw your signature, I was always thinking on the scene that I posted.........time to reset my brain.......

Actually the scene with the bald kid is a much cooler scene.
Have a cookie, and I'm sure you'll be feeling right as rain.

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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

Actually right now I am trying to hammer down on a phono pre for a free TT I got.

I have a H/K Citation 11 with walnut cabinet if you're interested.
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