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I'm itching to get the SC-1222-K as well...the deal is really nice. The only downside with this receiver is that Pioneer does Not list Output (20Hz-20KHz, 8Ohm load)...so you don't know what you're getting. I really like Onkyo receivers because of support for various streaming services etc but they look weired...Pioneer are known to have horrible User experience but I really like the look for pioneer receivers though.
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Originally Posted by dizzyrapper18 View Post

would the Pioneer SC-1222-K
be alright with
2 monito 60 floor speakers
2 m30s
Cs1
Psw505 12" sub.
I could get it for 599$ at newegg but need to know asap. Was going to get the onkyo 616 but they are sold out. Thanks.

I had that receiver for about a week. It will do fine with your speakers.
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Finding the right receiver is turning out to be quite a challange.
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You are definatly right my friend. Im looking to buy a new house to put my new speakers in so i dont know the layout or anything. But i figure ask one for xmas. Yes im 28 and wanting a toy for xmas for a house i do not own yet lol.
Any input on the sont with built in wifi? Since the onkyo 616 is not on sale should i consider the 515 or say screw it and get the sony or pioneer.
Was trying to get something resonable with ThX certified. Or worst comes to worst is i wait till i get the house and look then and hopefully get some good deals.
Accessoriesforless.com has 616 but its referbished so im not sure. Pioneer sale emds tomarrow
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Originally Posted by tunafish24 View Post

Finding the right receiver is turning out to be quite a challange.

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You are definatly right my friend. Im looking to buy a new house to put my new speakers in so i dont know the layout or anything.

Choosing my AVR took the most research of all of my equipment. When I got it (after Christmas sale 2009) I was brand new into H.T. and basically didn't know anything about anything, wait, I knew how to turn on my flat panel biggrin.gif

I knew that I wanted something with power, something that would be future proof at least for a few years. I wanted bells and whistles and I even though I never planned on using pre-outs (ignorance), I felt I should have them anyway juuuust in case.

Aside from my TV and BR player, my AVR was my first piece of equipment, the Onkyo TX-NR807. Three months later, my first speaker set, a 7.1 speaker set from Onkyo.

It was nice enough esp for a bedroom set up, but in less than a year, I wanted something more and invested in Polks Monitor SII, 70's, 40's, 30's and CS2. Now I debated the "do I really need more power" issue and sure enough, in comes my first amp (good thing I had pre-outs).

Since I've started this roller coaster ride, I've upgraded my flat panel twice, my speakers twice, my BR player once, but my AVR still stands strong.

Don't know if this helps any, but the morale of the story is; when picking out an AVR, try to make sure it will handle the unforeseen.
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Yea it helps. Monitor 60s are made like the cs1 i heard forget what another thread said but they work wellctogether like the 70s and cs2.
What do you need preouts for when you have hdmis?
I think only have xbox, maybe wii, cd/dvd or BR. Does blueray even play cds???
I bought my wife sirius so id want an avr with that built in unless i can plug it in if possible.
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Yea it helps. Monitor 60s are made like the cs1 i heard forget what another thread said but they work wellctogether like the 70s and cs2..

I never cared much for the CS1, drastically underpowered compared to the CS2. I'd use the CS2 with the M60's instead of the CS1, but that's just me.

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What do you need preouts for when you have hdmis?
I think only have xbox, maybe wii, cd/dvd or BR. Does blueray even play cds???
I bought my wife sirius so id want an avr with that built in unless i can plug it in if possible.

Definitely use the HDMI connections, but the speaker pre-outs allow you to add external amplifiers to your AVR. My 807 is rated at 135wpc, but that's only with 2 channels driven. When I start adding the center and surrounds, the power drops. So when I start using power hungry speakers, my AVR needed some help.

I have my Xbox and BR player going into my AVR via HDMI and then HDMI out to the plasma. My BR player plays my CD's quite well so I'm covered for movies and music in one fell swoop.

Also, my AVR is Sirius equipped, I just have to pay for the subscription but I don't bother, I have it hardwired with an Ethernet cable and get all the INTERNET radio I can stand and then some.
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BRs play regular dvds?
Id like to get a THX certified avr but not sure if its a big deal. And isnt 7.1 channel avrs suppose to do 80 watts per channel. 80-front left, 80 front right, etc.? Cs2 was more xpensive and now that i compare them, cs2 has bigger drivers. I might try to sell the speakers on craigslist and get the 70s lol. But im liking the cs2 now so atleast ill sell the cs1 on craigslist for the amount of the cs2 or even more. Im ready to upgrade speakers already but only will do it if i can sellem ya know. But is till need a dam avr.
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BRs play regular dvds?
Id like to get a THX certified avr but not sure if its a big deal. And isnt 7.1 channel avrs suppose to do 80 watts per channel. 80-front left, 80 front right, etc.? Cs2 was more xpensive and now that i compare them, cs2 has bigger drivers. I might try to sell the speakers on craigslist and get the 70s lol. But im liking the cs2 now so atleast ill sell the cs1 on craigslist for the amount of the cs2 or even more. Im ready to upgrade speakers already but only will do it if i can sellem ya know. But is till need a dam avr.

If I was you, I would keep the Monitor 60, and just get the CS2. The monitor 70 require more power to get better sound out of them. My current AVR only does 65 watt per channel with 7.1. It is enough to make the Monitor 70 sound good, but I am currently looking for another AVR + separate amp combination.
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I put the cs1 on craigslist. But im selling it for a bit so well see what happens if i bring the price down a lil ill still make a profit.
I would want different rears but montior40s just seem to big so ill stay put and see how the list works..
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I put the cs1 on craigslist. But im selling it for a bit so well see what happens if i bring the price down a lil ill still make a profit.
I would want different rears but montior40s just seem to big so ill stay put and see how the list works..

I should of pulled the trigger on the CS2 when Newegg had it on sale for $99.99. Now, they are out of stock. I am thinking of going with satellite speakers for my surround back.
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The pioneer would be fine powering them.

However I will warn you about the pioneer as I own that model, I really do not like it.

I bought it because it had ethernet and pre outs, I figured that the phone app and internet radio etc would be a nice bonus. But the thing is just poorly executed.

We start with the lack of 12v trigger, theres just little point in having pre outs if you don't have a 12v trigger.
So the thing wont be future proof for you if you ever upgrade to a dedicated amp.

So now we power it on, and sit, and wait, this thing takes freaking forever just to boot up. And if you try to control it with the phone app at this time it just keeps spitting warnings at you.

So finally you get it up and running and start moving around in the phone app, only to find out that it does not do everything you might need, as well as it being really unintuitive, you basically need to spend some good time finding your way around the app, then someone walks in and wants to control it with their phone, but they cant, because only 1 person can connect at a time.

Room correction is kinda whack too, cant do the sub, and if it gets any error it just basically wont let you go, mine would randomly say speakers were on the wrong polarity, then I would change them or mess with them and it would still say it, but if you ran it several times without changing anything, then it would often say different speakers were wrong each time. Eventually I just gave up on that.

Lots of little other things I could go on and on about, and the only thing you can be sure of is that pioneer will never fix the app because once they move to a new year model, they make a new app for that year and then they abandon everything else. So they have a bunch of apps all half cooked.
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Originally Posted by dizzyrapper18 View Post

BRs play regular dvds?
Id like to get a THX certified avr but not sure if its a big deal. And isnt 7.1 channel avrs suppose to do 80 watts per channel. 80-front left, 80 front right, etc.?

Yes, your br player will play CD's, DVD's and BR's. And I think you're confusing watts with hz, THX is recommended @ 80hz not 80watts. And though it's nice, not needed IMO. My mains are set to 40hz
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We start with the lack of 12v trigger, theres just little point in having pre outs if you don't have a 12v trigger.
So the thing wont be future proof for you if you ever upgrade to a dedicated amp.

That statement just isn't true IMHO smile.gif I just recently moved my set up, I have two amps connected to my AVR using the pre-outs. I haven't connected the two 12v triggers yet and guess what, everything is working just fine.

The 12v trigger allows you to use one remote to activate both AVR and amplifier. Without the 12v trigger, you'd have to turn on amp manually. I just leave mine on so for now I probably will leave the 12v trigger cables in the box.
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Sony STR-DN1030
Yamaha RX-A720
i can not tell if these have pre-amp outs or whatever. i heard this is nice to have but is it?
how can you tell if a receiver has 12v triggers? what would it be under?
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Originally Posted by dizzyrapper18 View Post

Sony STR-DN1030
Yamaha RX-A720
i can not tell if these have pre-amp outs or whatever. i heard this is nice to have but is it?
how can you tell if a receiver has 12v triggers? what would it be under?

Under description is should say if it has pre-amp out or 12v triggers. Neither of those two receivers have pre-amps out or 12v triggers from what I read online.
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I put the cs1 on craigslist. But im selling it for a bit so well see what happens if i bring the price down a lil ill still make a profit.
I would want different rears but montior40s just seem to big so ill stay put and see how the list works..

I should of pulled the trigger on the CS2 when Newegg had it on sale for $99.99. Now, they are out of stock. I am thinking of going with satellite speakers for my surround back.

It'll come back soon and on sale again. Its always on newegg for great deals.

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i can not tell if these have pre-amp outs or whatever. i heard this is nice to have but is it?
how can you tell if a receiver has 12v triggers? what would it be under?

Reading the feature and spec pages will tell you everything (or most) about the unit.

What kind of budget are you working with? Excuse me for pushing the Onks, I've owned one for three years now and have had more than satisfying results.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR809/Onkyo-TX-NR809-7.2-Channel-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR709/Onkyo-TX-NR709-7.2-Channel-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR3007/Onkyo-TX-NR3007-THX-Ultra2-Plus-140w-x-9.2-Network-Receiver/1.html

That 3007 is a beast, and if I were in the market, I'd be all over that.

These links I've listed are refurbs and factory reconditioned. I've gone this rout before and so have a lot of other members. It's scary the first time you do it but then a guy see's he's getting a pretty good deal this way.

Anyway, these three AVR's are feature rich, has most of what a guy couled want in an AVR and the price is really great. There's my contribution.
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Regarding 12v triggers...you can always buy a smart power strip. That's is what I have been doing with my two pro amps connected to my AVR. It works great.
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Regarding ...you can always buy a smart power strip...


What????? That's all I need! I can see it now, my smart TV and my smart phone would join forces with my smart power strip and start intimidating, telling me how stupid I am, NO SIR, no way, I'm not going down that road biggrin.gif
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Give me a dumb power strip any day. And a dumb phone for that matter.
I prefer the ones that can follow orders rather than try to out-think me.
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Give me a dumb power strip any day. And a dumb phone for that matter.
I prefer the ones that can follow orders rather than try to out-think me.

Not me. At my age I'd rather have something do my thinking for me.
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Not me. At my age I'd rather have something do my thinking for me.

Lol, what's up Seattle man, recognize my avatar? Okay, not really a fair question. That's me at Pacific Raceway, once called Seattle International Raceway.
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LOL...you guys are funny.
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Lol, what's up Seattle man, recognize my avatar? Okay, not really a fair question. That's me at Pacific Raceway, once called Seattle International Raceway.

Great photo of you. Yeah, been there a few times. That's a pic of me in my avatar cept I was younger when it was taken.
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Great photo of you. Yeah, been there a few times. That's a pic of me in my avatar cept I was younger when it was taken.

Very nice! I have an aunt in Texas that looks just like that biggrin.gif
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Yes, your br player will play CD's, DVD's and BR's. And I think you're confusing watts with hz, THX is recommended @ 80hz not 80watts. And though it's nice, not needed IMO. My mains are set to 40hz
That statement just isn't true IMHO smile.gif I just recently moved my set up, I have two amps connected to my AVR using the pre-outs. I haven't connected the two 12v triggers yet and guess what, everything is working just fine.
The 12v trigger allows you to use one remote to activate both AVR and amplifier. Without the 12v trigger, you'd have to turn on amp manually. I just leave mine on so for now I probably will leave the 12v trigger cables in the box.

Sure it works, but whats the point in leaving the amps on and consuming power. I mean if you just care if it works then the pioneer is just fine which I think I pointed out, yeah it works, but that is where it ends. There is a big difference between just working and working well. You can also do what I did and buy a power saving switch and hook up a 12v wall wart, but I mean the whole point of a receiver that does MSRP $1100 should be to simplify a setup and make things seamless not force you through rube goldberg mechanisms. I suppose I could just leave the receiver on all the time too if I wanted to avoid that long start up, actually I could not do that because for some reason this receiver cannot detect if media on windows shares has changed until it restarts.
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Figure this is as good a place as any to ask this... I am trying to decide on an upgrade plan for my HT system, it's an older Onkyo HTiB. I have a fairly limited budget, which typically leads me towards Polk speakers as they for the most part have good reviews, and are a reasonable price. I keep switching back and forth between whether to get towers (something like Monitor 70's) or to go with Monitor 40's for the front speakers, a CS2 for the center, Monitor 30's for the rears, and for now at least, keep my existing sub that came with the Onkyo set up (will probably change it at some point). If I go with the Monitor 70's, then I have to wait a while for the other speakers, which I am fine with.

So, would the 40, 30 and CS2 set up sound good? I am looking to upgrade my receiver to a Denon 1913 (or 1912, 2112 if I find one on clearance somewhere). Would the Denon be an adequate receiver? Also, if I end up deciding to go with the Monitor 70's, how much bass do they put out? would I still want a sub?

Most of the time this setup will be for watching movies, but I want to also have something that works well with music to.

Thanks.
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I would not use the 40's for fronts. Go with the 70's. A sub is a good idea with just about any pair of speakers. The 70's and the CS2 is a good start. Just build from there.
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Wait til the CS2 goes on sale for $99 and the 70's go on sale for something below 200 (typically $180). Go for the 2012 Denon medels... check Amazon. The 1712 and 1912 are marked down and priced right (check out Batpig's Denon thread here for the differences) http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread ... There is a possibility that your HTIB sub may not work with a "real" AVR, and you WILL want a sub regardless with any speaker. You can start with the 70's and CS2, a Denon and add a sub, then M40's or M30 surrounds later on for $100. And get the best sub you can afford... $300 at least.
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