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post #15721 of 34852
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Originally Posted by vodan View Post

I have this posted over on the polk forums but I was hoping to get more input from you gentlemen:) I need some help deciding between amplifiers. I have two different systems that I'm needing amps for. One is in my living room and is a 5.1 set up with lsi 25's and an lsi c up front and lsi 9's in back. The other is a dedicated movie room that will have 9.2, consisting of 2 lsi 15's, and 3 lsi 9's across the front, 265 ls in-walls for surrounds, and 500 ls in-ceiling for rear surrounds and a pair of HSU VTF15's. In the movie room I have a denon 4311 that I think will handle the four surround channels ok. I'm considering the Emotiva xpa-5 or the xpr-5 for the living room system and for the remaining channels in the movie room. Do you guys think the xpa will do a good job in either or both of these systems or do you think it's worth the extra money to jump up to the xpr?

Thanks in advance for an advice/input

Daniel

Too bad they don't offer something in between. If you listen near reference levels I'd say go with the XPR. If at more moderate levels the XPA should be ok. You know how it is, better too much than not enough. I have the LSi15's and will be going with the XPA-2 and let my receiver run the other three channels.
post #15722 of 34852
thats a lot of lsi's. have fun with that!

http://www.integrahometheater.com/model.cfm?m=DTA-70.1&class=Amplifier&p=i

http://www.modia.com/Rotel_RMB_1076_Silver_6_Channel_Home_Theater_Amplifier_p/rmb1076.htm

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpa5
post #15723 of 34852
Stanle,

My room is huge. The actual living room is 24x17, but it opens up into the living and dining room and that whole room is 24x35 with a vaulted ceiling.
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I'm bummed. The sale on the Emotiva amps end on the 15th. I planned on pulling the trigger on a sub on the 9th. If I get a sub I'll have to pay $120 more for the XPA-2 by the time I can get it. Crapola. I guess if I was smart I'd go ahead and get the amp first.
Being without a sub sucks.
post #15725 of 34852
too big for one 505 for sure, two would pressurize it. But do you have the ability to do an infinite baffle? that would fit the 400 budget if you had tools and woodwork experience.
post #15726 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

Stanle,
My room is huge. The actual living room is 24x17, but it opens up into the living and dining room and that whole room is 24x35 with a vaulted ceiling.
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All I can say is you need to save up some moola and get some real subs. If that can't be done keep buying 505's til you fill all the voids in that room. The RW-12D's at sale price would be even better of course.
Edited by XStanleyX - 1/1/13 at 10:44am
post #15727 of 34852
It's easy to spend other peoples money they don't have. I do it to myself all the time.
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Yeah, I googled "infinite baffle" and came up with a few different things. What exactly is that? My setpdad owns a cabinet shop so I have the available tools and he is not busy right now so I know he would love to do it.

Stanley, I may just use my 440 and ask for a HSU VTF-15h from my wife for my Christmas present for the next 5 years. lol
post #15729 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

Yeah, I googled "infinite baffle" and came up with a few different things. What exactly is that? My setpdad owns a cabinet shop so I have the available tools and he is not busy right now so I know he would love to do it.
Stanley, I may just use my 440 and ask for a HSU VTF-15h from my wife for my Christmas present for the next 5 years. lol

That would be a great choice if you can get it past the wife. I'll be opting for the Rythmik F15HP after swinging back and forth for the last month.
post #15730 of 34852
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

That would be a great choice if you can get it past the wife. I'll be opting for the Rythmik F15HP after swinging back and forth for the last month.

Hey Stanley, so that is the final word on the sub? I mean, are you going for the Rythmik?
post #15731 of 34852
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Hey Stanley, so that is the final word on the sub? I mean, are you going for the Rythmik?

Yep, done made up my mind. I'm tired of researching and will go for that one.
post #15732 of 34852
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Yep, done made up my mind. I'm tired of researching and will go for that one.

That is a fine subwoofer...congrats!

Are you going to order the one with H600PEQ3 amplifier, right?

How about the driver, are you going to upgrade to the silver cone ($50 extra)?
post #15733 of 34852
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

That is a fine subwoofer...congrats!
Are you going to order the one with H600PEQ3 amplifier, right?
How about the driver, are you going to upgrade to the silver cone ($50 extra)?

No, I'm going with the H550PEQ3 amp. There's only a 0.5 db difference. I'll keep the $100 difference in price for that. No silver cone. I like the other one better. I'm really stretching my budget as it is anyway.
post #15734 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

Yeah, I googled "infinite baffle" and came up with a few different things. What exactly is that?

An infinite baffle, as far as subwoofers is concerned, is a sealed sub, as opposed to a ported sub.
Most subs have some degree of "port noise" or chuffing at some frequency. Typically the term infinite baffle is used to describe speakers built into a wall or ceiling, as the space behind the speaker is essentially infinite, whereas a speaker cabinet has a volume of air and generally the larger the better.
post #15735 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

Yeah, I googled "infinite baffle" and came up with a few different things. What exactly is that? My setpdad owns a cabinet shop so I have the available tools and he is not busy right now so I know he would love to do it.
Stanley, I may just use my 440 and ask for a HSU VTF-15h from my wife for my Christmas present for the next 5 years. lol


it is generally a 2 or more 15 inch driver system, installed in the floor (basement) or in the ceiling (attic). there are also wall and closet installations. They are by far the biggest bass you can make, and the cleanest. check out this link for more info .. you can get great 15 inch drivers for around 130, A dual river IB would likely cost 500 including the amp.
post #15736 of 34852
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Originally Posted by bad1550 View Post

Regarding additional power, what amp if any should I consider for my Onkyo 809 to drive 5 channels and if I move up from Monitors 70's to RTI A9?

IMO, the more power you feed, the better. The XPA-5 is recommended because of budget. If you have a large budget, take a look at Sunfire. I like emo amps because they offer a good amount of consistant power at a very low price comparitively speaking.
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Originally Posted by 3rdHerd View Post

ok, ok.... in response to all the people who thought my 'unrealistic bass' comment was funny..... here is a quote that better says what I meant... from Dr. Spec at the PolkAudio forums ....
by unrealistic, I was thinking of asshats who drive around thumping the whole neighborhood.... or people who have the bass set so loud they can't hear the mids anymore.... I like balanced sound with clean mids and sharp highs.Hopefully my 505 will serve for several years, I just moved it to the corner this morning in preperation new main towers, and WOW, it just came to life!

Lol, I can totally relate to the rolling cages of thunder, wish I had a special remote that would blow those subs to hell where they belong. Congrats on your new sub performance, I love tweaking the set up.

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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

I'm bummed. The sale on the Emotiva amps end on the 15th. I planned on pulling the trigger on a sub on the 9th. If I get a sub I'll have to pay $120 more for the XPA-2 by the time I can get it. Crapola. I guess if I was smart I'd go ahead and get the amp first.
Being without a sub sucks.

Fear not my north west brother, here's a little secret for you......the emo amps offer a "Factory renewed" product with full 5yr warranty and $100 off retail anyday of the week.
post #15737 of 34852
a really good looking installation in a vaulted ceiling


http://cdn.avsforum.com/6/63/525x525px-LL-638cea17_vbattach192675.jpeg
post #15738 of 34852
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Yep, done made up my mind. I'm tired of researching and will go for that one.


nice choice!

14-200 hz at -2db ... thats a mighty fine low range.

"90 degrees phase shift at 20 Hz" I hadn't heard of that feature before. My brain is still trying to compute what that means exactly.
post #15739 of 34852
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post


Fear not my north west brother, here's a little secret for you......the emo amps offer a "Factory renewed" product with full 5yr warranty and $100 off retail anyday of the week.

I did not know that. Thanks for the info. I don't mind paying another $20 after the sale. Still getting the full warranty will make it worth it to me so I can get the sub first.
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Originally Posted by 3rdHerd View Post

it is generally a 2 or more 15 inch driver system, installed in the floor (basement) or in the ceiling (attic). there are also wall and closet installations. They are by far the biggest bass you can make, and the cleanest. check out this link for more info .. you can get great 15 inch drivers for around 130, A dual river IB would likely cost 500 including the amp.
Awesome. Do you know where I would place this under the floor. I have plenty of room so that would not be a problem. Just figuring out exactly where to put it. Under my enternatinment center? Center of the room?

I have read through and get the general idea of "how" to do it, just have not found "where" to actually put it!!
post #15741 of 34852
Getting ready to move into our new home. I need to install in-ceiling speakers (already wired and cut), a subwoofer, an inexpensive AVR, a TV stand, and an LED TV. My primary home theater system will be going upstairs in the loft. It's twice the size and has a clean wall...

I am looking at the RC60i speakers. They are the exact size I need and sound pretty darn good in the store. I am also really looking at the PSW505 for a sub. The room is a great room and will only be for watching TV and ambient music on occasion.

I am also looking at the Onkyo NR-414. It's inexpensive and has the basic features I need for a basic setup.

Any thoughts on the RC60i in-ceiling speakers (they are 103 bucks a pair on amazon) and the PSW505? I have a lot of crap to buy and am looking for value right now.
post #15742 of 34852
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

Getting ready to move into our new home. I need to install in-ceiling speakers (already wired and cut), a subwoofer, an inexpensive AVR, a TV stand, and an LED TV. My primary home theater system will be going upstairs in the loft. It's twice the size and has a clean wall...
I am looking at the RC60i speakers. They are the exact size I need and sound pretty darn good in the store. I am also really looking at the PSW505 for a sub. The room is a great room and will only be for watching TV and ambient music on occasion.
I am also looking at the Onkyo NR-414. It's inexpensive and has the basic features I need for a basic setup.
Any thoughts on the RC60i in-ceiling speakers (they are 103 bucks a pair on amazon) and the PSW505? I have a lot of crap to buy and am looking for value right now.

I had a pair of 505's for awhile. One died after a week so I sent it back and lived with one til I got the RW-12D. I thought the 505 was fine for music. A lesser degree for HT. At $190 it's well worth the money. I don't really think there a better sub at that price.
post #15743 of 34852
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

Getting ready to move into our new home. I need to install in-ceiling speakers (already wired and cut), a subwoofer, an inexpensive AVR, a TV stand, and an LED TV. My primary home theater system will be going upstairs in the loft. It's twice the size and has a clean wall...
I am looking at the RC60i speakers. They are the exact size I need and sound pretty darn good in the store. I am also really looking at the PSW505 for a sub. The room is a great room and will only be for watching TV and ambient music on occasion.
I am also looking at the Onkyo NR-414. It's inexpensive and has the basic features I need for a basic setup.
Any thoughts on the RC60i in-ceiling speakers (they are 103 bucks a pair on amazon) and the PSW505? I have a lot of crap to buy and am looking for value right now.

The Psw505 has gotten great reviews for an inexpensive sub. It is on sale for $189 right now on newegg with a promo code.
Have not had any experience with the RC60s but I did purchase a pair of TC80i for my new house that is being built.
What are you looking for in an AVR and what is your budget? There are some great deals going on right now!!
post #15744 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

The Psw505 has gotten great reviews for an inexpensive sub. It is on sale for $189 right now on newegg with a promo code.
Have not had any experience with the RC60s but I did purchase a pair of TC80i for my new house that is being built.
What are you looking for in an AVR and what is your budget? There are some great deals going on right now!!

The NR414 has most of the features I'm looking for. Not too picky. Amazon has them for like 245 dollars. I have the NR3009 for my home theater so the downstairs AVR will simply push the in-ceiling speakers and connect to the internet for Pandora...

80 - 100 WPC
1080P
Network ready
post #15745 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

The Psw505 has gotten great reviews for an inexpensive sub. It is on sale for $189 right now on newegg with a promo code.
Have not had any experience with the RC60s but I did purchase a pair of TC80i for my new house that is being built.
What are you looking for in an AVR and what is your budget? There are some great deals going on right now!!

The NR414 has most of the features I'm looking for. Not too picky. Amazon has them for like 245 dollars. I have the NR3009 for my home theater so the downstairs AVR will simply push the in-ceiling speakers and connect to the internet for Pandora...

80 - 100 WPC
1080P
Network ready
post #15746 of 34852
Speaking of infinite baffle installations... check out this thread I found right here on AVS forums.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407117/quad-18-in-floor-infinite-baffle-subwoofer/0_100
post #15747 of 34852
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Originally Posted by chrisu7582 View Post

Awesome. Do you know where I would place this under the floor. I have plenty of room so that would not be a problem. Just figuring out exactly where to put it. Under my enternatinment center? Center of the room?
I have read through and get the general idea of "how" to do it, just have not found "where" to actually put it!!

without seeing pictures I could only guess, but if putting it through the floor from the basement you have all sorts options. Most people use air conditioning grates to cover the hole. If you need to be able to walk on it, you would need something more substantial to cover the hole, like an old cast iron register plate. There are really only three things I can think of in considering location. 1: wife approval ... 2: performance ... 3: safety (people and equipment)

I think it is preferable to have it located near your front mains, but not under the AVR and other electronics (vibrations are big)
a small opening in the floor is all that is needed, maybe 16 inches or so to fit between joists for a two driver system. I saw several project pictures and many people make a two driver system, but cut out two extra holes in the enclosure for future drivers. Just keep the cut outs and caulk it back into place.

If you decide to make one, please keep me updated, I love it!

like this one, ... http://basementsolutions.blogspot.com/2009/06/subwoofer-speakers-in-crawlspace.html
nice small hole, simple construction,and there are four holes for drivers, but only two installed. another thing about this particular one, it looks as though they cut through the joists for this project. I don't reccomend altering the structural integrity of the home. You don't need to cut joists.
Edited by 3rdHerd - 1/2/13 at 4:37am
post #15748 of 34852
I forgot who was looking for the monitors on sale, but the 'new monitor' is on sale at newegg

has anyone compared the new monitor series with the monitor2 series? they seem acoustically similar if not exact. the main difference looked cosmetic.


did the math today. in three months I have spent just at $1500 and got:

HK AVR 2600
Monitor 60ii fronts
Rti A4 Center
PSW505 Sub
Samsung 42 inch LED TV
Sharp RP-113 Turntable (never opened box circa 1984)
TCC TC-760LC Phono Preamp
clean power strip
plus all cables and wires to run it.

Now saving for the last piece, fxi a6 surrounds smile.gif
Edited by 3rdHerd - 1/2/13 at 7:45am
post #15749 of 34852
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Originally Posted by 3rdHerd View Post

without seeing pictures I could only guess, but if putting it through the floor from the basement you have all sorts options. Most people use air conditioning grates to cover the hole. If you need to be able to walk on it, you would need something more substantial to cover the hole, like an old cast iron register plate. There are really only three things I can think of in considering location. 1: wife approval ... 2: performance ... 3: safety (people and equipment)
I think it is preferable to have it located near your front mains, but not under the AVR and other electronics (vibrations are big)
a small opening in the floor is all that is needed, maybe 16 inches or so to fit between joists for a two driver system

Conversely one could build in the basement and run the port up through a cavity between two studs in a wall if you have one and then just install a big return vent there and put a 2x4 horizontally between the two studsat the top of the opening and some extra screws in the drywall to ensure it holds up to the pressure.

Then you wouldnt have to worry about people stepping on it at all.
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As an FYI if anyone near Indianapolis (within maybe 45 mins drive time) needs a Auralex Gramma isolation platform let me know, I no longer am in need of mine. I also have a Halo 3 wireless headset I would be willing to ship that is new in box. PM me for info and pics...
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