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post #1621 of 34746
Polker here...

Front : Monitor 60's
Surrounds : FXi3's
Rears : FXi3's
Center : CSi3
Sub : PSW10

Powered by a new Onkyo TX-SR805
post #1622 of 34746
I have a question for you Polk users. I am thinking of going the Polk route for my speakers and need some recommendations. It is a small room 10x10x9, I would like to do a 5.1 setup but a 7.1 setup is not out of the question if the room exists to do it right. I have no preference to floorstanding/bookshelf speakers but considering room size, bookshelf w/stands seems to make more sense to me. These speakers will be used for everything but accuracy,quality,tightness is major priority, it just irritates me to no end when something does not sound right or it sounds out of place. Room dynamics, well this is a little interesting, well to me it is anyways but you have a ceiling,floor and two walls domintated by concrete while the other 2 remaing walls consists of wood frames and sheet rock. Both wood/sheetrock walls act as dividers between empty rooms, one wall is a solid wall and the other wall consists of a closet on my side and a closet on the other side, think of it as a sideways s. Price I am a little open to but considering the room size the last thing I want is having to spend a significant amount of time adjusting speakers simply because they are too much for the room. Receiver being used in this situation is a brand new Onkyo TX-SR705.
post #1623 of 34746
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Originally Posted by blobula View Post

Check these out.

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-...8079907&sr=8-1

Thanks!
post #1624 of 34746
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Originally Posted by Milamber View Post

Hello all -

I have a question concerning the volume control on the PSW-650 sub. I am running it with a Hsu Research VF2-MK3 in a 4200 cubic foot room.

I have always wondered what other people are running their volume at on the PSE650, as I have always run mine at what I would consider halfway, 5-6, since the sub volume goes to 11.

I am wondering if anyone with experience with this sub thinks this is extremely high, or about right? I have found that I only get the response I want from it at this volume level. My concern with this is that I would never turn the Hsu up halfway, as it would bring down my house, and probably damage it because it hits so hard.

Hopefully someone can steer me right if they think this level of volume on the PSW650 might stress it too much and give me some examples of how they are running it? Any feedback is appreciated.

Rob

The gain knob on any sub amp isn't volume, per se, it's an attenuator for balancing the input signal with the amps output. This will vary by manufacturer. Hsu and SVS don't need much gain...evidently Polk does. Hopefully, you've got them both calibrated.
post #1625 of 34746
Just got my Polk's delivered. I went with R50s in the front, CSR center, R150 surrounds. I couldn't pass on the prices at frys.com. I picked up a Dayton Sub-100 also.

Can't wait to hook this up, my girlfriend is making me wait till Christmas though.

Unfortunately they will be fed by my 6 year old Sony HTiB Receiver (STR-K502). I will be getting either an Onkyo 605 or 705 later.

I think this will be good though as it will allow me to first appreciate the speakers and then later appreciate the receiver.

Thanks for all the help from this thread.
post #1626 of 34746
I am very sorry if this constitutes as cross-posting, but I am trying to identify these Polk bookshelf's that I received. It seems the labels have been removed. Thanks.



post #1627 of 34746
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Originally Posted by Rickeo View Post

I am very sorry if this constitutes as cross-posting, but I am trying to identify these Polk bookshelf's that I received. It seems the labels have been removed. Thanks.

It is RT3 series speaker.

http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/specs/rt3/
post #1628 of 34746
So as i'm setting up my Onkyo 605 and using Audssey with my Polk speakers. I noticed the speaker config crossover settings it is using it always much higher than the frequencies capable of my speakers.

My current setup:
Front: RTI12
Center: CSIa4
Surrounds: FXI5
Sub: PSW505

The Onkyo Config:
Front: 160 hz
center: 60 hz
Surround: 60 hz
Sub: Filtered (I left LFE at 90hz).

Just curious what you would set up the crossovers as? I generally watch movies.

~G
post #1629 of 34746
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Originally Posted by gspin2k1 View Post

My current setup:
Front: RTI12
Center: CSIa4
Surrounds: FXI5
Sub: PSW505

The Onkyo Config:
Front: 160 hz
center: 60 hz
Surround: 60 hz
Sub: Filtered (I left LFE at 90hz).

Just curious what you would set up the crossovers as? I generally watch movies.

G, There's a hole in the freq. range between your fronts and the sub. I wonder if the 605 simply is so underpowered with the RTi12's that it actually shows in the Audssey as 160 hz x-over frequency.
- Val
post #1630 of 34746
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Originally Posted by gspin2k1 View Post

So as i'm setting up my Onkyo 605 and using Audssey with my Polk speakers. I noticed the speaker config crossover settings it is using it always much higher than the frequencies capable of my speakers.

My current setup:
Front: RTI12
Center: CSIa4
Surrounds: FXI5
Sub: PSW505

The Onkyo Config:
Front: 160 hz
center: 60 hz
Surround: 60 hz
Sub: Filtered (I left LFE at 90hz).

Just curious what you would set up the crossovers as? I generally watch movies.

~G

Any chance the setting for the RTi12 is a typo (60 not 160)? I think 60 or 80 would be best for them, though they can play into the 30s. Based on test results I've seen for other Onkyo's, namely the 674 in Home Theater mag, Onkyo's power ratings are accurate when 5 channels are driven, and dip about 30% when 7 channels are driven, so the receiver should have adequate power. According to Polk's website, the center has a -3dB point of 65hz, and the FXi5's are -3dB at 55hz, so they should both probably be set to 80hz.
post #1631 of 34746
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Originally Posted by rmccully View Post

Any chance the setting for the RTi12 is a typo (60 not 160)? I think 60 or 80 would be best for them, though they can play into the 30s. Based on test results I've seen for other Onkyo's, namely the 674 in Home Theater mag, Onkyo's power ratings are accurate when 5 channels are driven, and dip about 30% when 7 channels are driven, so the receiver should have adequate power. According to Polk's website, the center has a -3dB point of 65hz, and the FXi5's are -3dB at 55hz, so they should both probably be set to 80hz.

No misprint..I was tripped out too to see it originally setting my rti12s at 160 hz. Anyway..so you're saying..leave the center at 60 hz, the fronts to 60, and the surrounds to 80?
~G

Anyone know what's most ideal for the LFE settings (which i assume goes to the sub) as well as the LPF i should set on the sub itself for movies)?
~G
post #1632 of 34746
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Originally Posted by gspin2k1 View Post

No misprint..I was tripped out too to see it originally setting my rti12s at 160 hz. Anyway..so you're saying..leave the center at 60 hz, the fronts to 60, and the surrounds to 80?
~G

Anyone know what's most ideal for the LFE settings (which i assume goes to the sub) as well as the LPF i should set on the sub itself for movies)?
~G

The LFE crossover should be set to match the highest of all frequencies for any speaker you set SMALL, i.e. currently anything below 160Hz is cut from the front speakers, but 90 is the highest that's sent to the sub resulting in a hole between 90 and 160. Does this make sense?

In the simplest case you should have all crossover points at 80 Hz.
Your Onkyo allows finer granularity with separate settings for each speaker. Still, I think 80 may be the best for your situation.
post #1633 of 34746
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Originally Posted by gspin2k1 View Post

No misprint..I was tripped out too to see it originally setting my rti12s at 160 hz. Anyway..so you're saying..leave the center at 60 hz, the fronts to 60, and the surrounds to 80?
~G

I would cross the center at 80hz. Since the -3db is 65hz, that means that at 60, it may be down 4-7(?)dB. Granted, that's a very small hole if frequency range, but since the sub can easily cover it, let it. I think a good rule of thumb is to look at the -3dB rating, and use a crossover setting at least one, maybe two increments higher.
post #1634 of 34746
i have lsi15,lsic and ads surrounds and im posting to ask for some feedback on them.i recently purchased an outlaw 7500 amp and its hooked up to myonkyo 805 and since the purchase of the amp i have blown out the tweeters or xover(im not sure since both were repaired)IN BOTH SPEAKERS.after waiting a month i just got them back 2 days ago and have managed to blow them again only this time along w/ the center as well.i was told these speakers NEED power.thats the reason i got the amp in the first place.the manager at tweeter said he would swap them out for another pair which was great of them.idont think its the speakers becouse of obvios reasons so its either the amp or the user.i know i sound like a 17y/o who turned up the volume to loud but i thought these speakers could handle it,so what im getting at is am i wrong did i just turn ithe volume to loud.if so that stinks,i spent $1700 on an amp that i cant turn up louder than my reciever could putout the lsi are polks best speakers(i believe)so i would think they could handle 300w into 4ohms.

any and all commentare appreciated,Brian
post #1635 of 34746
My friend got R50 for about two weeks: for movies, he loves it; for music, ..., I know, I didn't have the heart to tell him, "I told you so..."
How long does it take for R50 to properly burn in?
post #1636 of 34746
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Originally Posted by bmplockmonster View Post

i have lsi15,lsic and ads surrounds and im posting to ask for some feedback on them.i recently purchased an outlaw 7500 amp and its hooked up to myonkyo 805 and since the purchase of the amp i have blown out the tweeters or xover(im not sure since both were repaired)IN BOTH SPEAKERS.after waiting a month i just got them back 2 days ago and have managed to blow them again only this time along w/ the center as well.i was told these speakers NEED power.thats the reason i got the amp in the first place.the manager at tweeter said he would swap them out for another pair which was great of them.idont think its the speakers becouse of obvios reasons so its either the amp or the user.i know i sound like a 17y/o who turned up the volume to loud but i thought these speakers could handle it,so what im getting at is am i wrong did i just turn ithe volume to loud.if so that stinks,i spent $1700 on an amp that i cant turn up louder than my reciever could putout the lsi are polks best speakers(i believe)so i would think they could handle 300w into 4ohms.

any and all commentare appreciated,Brian

OK. Honestly, how loud are you listening? Before people take their time to troubleshoot all of the things that could be wrong, they need to know if you are listening at ear-bleeding levels before they help you try to figure out if you have power surges or something improperly setup. These are Polk's top of the line, but they're not PA speakers.
post #1637 of 34746
My current music system uses a pair of Monitor 50s and a PSW-10. The only shortcomings I have found so far are that the soundstage could be bigger/more 3-dimensional and the bass could go a bit lower. Room treatments might improve the first issue, if I decide to invest in them. The second issue might be just as well in an apartment (though I have considered the PSW-12) Clarity, dynamics, tonal quality, imaging precision, etc. are all top-notch.
post #1638 of 34746
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Originally Posted by bmplockmonster View Post

i have lsi15,lsic and ads surrounds and im posting to ask for some feedback on them.i recently purchased an outlaw 7500 amp and its hooked up to myonkyo 805 and since the purchase of the amp i have blown out the tweeters or xover(im not sure since both were repaired)IN BOTH SPEAKERS.after waiting a month i just got them back 2 days ago and have managed to blow them again only this time along w/ the center as well.i was told these speakers NEED power.thats the reason i got the amp in the first place.the manager at tweeter said he would swap them out for another pair which was great of them.idont think its the speakers becouse of obvios reasons so its either the amp or the user.i know i sound like a 17y/o who turned up the volume to loud but i thought these speakers could handle it,so what im getting at is am i wrong did i just turn ithe volume to loud.if so that stinks,i spent $1700 on an amp that i cant turn up louder than my reciever could putout the lsi are polks best speakers(i believe)so i would think they could handle 300w into 4ohms.

any and all commentare appreciated,Brian

Don't know too much about the LSi15 but the recommended amp power is from 20 to 250w, is your 300w/channel your guessing accurate? I'm asking because the Outlaw 7500 is rated at 300w @ 4ohms and the LSi15 is rated @ 4ohms combine that with whatever the power rating @ 4ohms for the Onkyo 805 and to me it seems like you are pushing way to much power through the speakers especially if you are cranking up the volume but then I could be totally wrong with my way of thinking on this one.
post #1639 of 34746
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

My current music system uses a pair of Monitor 50s and a PSW-10. The only shortcomings I have found so far are that the soundstage could be bigger/more 3-dimensional and the bass could go a bit lower. Room treatments might improve the first issue, if I decide to invest in them. The second issue might be just as well in an apartment (though I have considered the PSW-12) Clarity, dynamics, tonal quality, imaging precision, etc. are all top-notch.

I've seen many of your posts elsewhere and didn't know you had picked up this system. I'm running Monitor 60s and a PSW10 as part of a music/HT system, driven by an Onkyo 604. I generally agree with your comments, especially about the sub. My setup is pretty modest, but it's clear to me that the sub is the weak link. It does rumble the room a bit during movies, but isn't that musical. I live in a townhouse, so it will probably suffice until I move into a detached house. I find the dynamics to be good. I've never felt that I've stressed them, though I probably listen at more modest levels than many here. Clarity is also good, as is the tone, but I find myself tweaking the EQ every now and then. I know that the Monitor 60s aren't the be all and end all of speakers, but I feel they're a reasonably good value. I only wish that the RTi8s had been available at the current pricing when I picked up the monitors a year ago. I certainly have my sets set higher for when I finish my PhD.
post #1640 of 34746
I'm thinking about replacing my PSW505 with either the STF-2 sub from HSU or the ED A2-300 from elemental Designs..cus they are all similar price points...anyone have any experience with these subs?
~G
post #1641 of 34746
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Originally Posted by rmccully View Post

I've seen many of your posts elsewhere and didn't know you had picked up this system.

I keep my HT the same but change my music system around often, just for fun (that's why they call tis a hobby, I guess.) I have never seen RTis in a B&M to hear them. Are they really better? Frys has them cheap, sometimes.
post #1642 of 34746
I would characterize the difference as the monitors sound a bit "hollow" compared to the rtis. I'm sure many others in this thread have compared the two series. I'd be interested in their opinions. The real wood veneers on the Rtis are a bonus.
post #1643 of 34746
i just recently got some R50s from frys from a steal of a price. well here is the problem i got them and a few days later the rti8s go on sale. my question is should i return the r50s for the 8s or use the r50s for my rear surronds. i do have the room for them. or i should not miss match these with the 8s. any thoughts would help thanks.
post #1644 of 34746
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Originally Posted by a-dog View Post

i just recently got some R50s from frys from a steal of a price. well here is the problem i got them and a few days later the rti8s go on sale. my question is should i return the r50s for the 8s or use the r50s for my rear surronds. i do have the room for them. or i should not miss match these with the 8s. any thoughts would help thanks.

Rti8's will blow away R50's. Yes you can use R50 as rears.
post #1645 of 34746
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Originally Posted by a-dog View Post

i just recently got some R50s from frys from a steal of a price. well here is the problem i got them and a few days later the rti8s go on sale. my question is should i return the r50s for the 8s or use the r50s for my rear surronds. i do have the room for them. or i should not miss match these with the 8s. any thoughts would help thanks.

Rti8s are much better than the R50. Definitely pick up the 8s if you can swing it. For HT use, you probably won't notice the mismatch too much if you were to keep the R50s as surrounds. If you listen to multichannel music, the difference would be more pronounced. That being said, Fry's probably has matching surrounds at a steal price too. Either the Rti4 or 6, or the Fxi3 or 5 would be the matching surrounds.
post #1646 of 34746
thanks for the quick responses. i guess i just going to have to give myself a xmas gift of some more polks. what center channel would be better the csi3 or csi5 for that setup of 8s up front and the r50s outback. by the way it all will be hooked up with a onkyo 605 if that helps any.
post #1647 of 34746
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Originally Posted by gspin2k1 View Post

I'm thinking about replacing my PSW505 with either the STF-2 sub from HSU or the ED A2-300 from elemental Designs..cus they are all similar price points...anyone have any experience with these subs?
~G

I can't comment on the other two subs but I have been very happy with the eD A2-300 in the two months that I've had it. Don't play much music but it's great for HT.
post #1648 of 34746
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Originally Posted by a-dog View Post

thanks for the quick responses. i guess i just going to have to give myself a xmas gift of some more polks. what center channel would be better the csi3 or csi5 for that setup of 8s up front and the r50s outback. by the way it all will be hooked up with a onkyo 605 if that helps any.

I have the Csi3. When I compared the 3 vs 5, I thought the 5 was quite a bit better, but the prices were $200 vs $400. At sale prices I think the price difference is much less, making the Csi5 a no-brainer.
post #1649 of 34746
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Originally Posted by rmccully View Post

I would characterize the difference as the monitors sound a bit "hollow" compared to the rtis. I'm sure many others in this thread have compared the two series. I'd be interested in their opinions. The real wood veneers on the Rtis are a bonus.

The RTi8 in cherry is dropdead gorgeous.

I thought the Monitor line was a little bright compared to the RTi's although I did like the M70.
post #1650 of 34746
Maybe my characterization of "hollow" could mean lacking midbass warmth. That could be equated to bright, I suppose.
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