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post #1651 of 34670
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Originally Posted by a-dog View Post

thanks for the quick responses. i guess i just going to have to give myself a xmas gift of some more polks. what center channel would be better the csi3 or csi5 for that setup of 8s up front and the r50s outback. by the way it all will be hooked up with a onkyo 605 if that helps any.

I have the CSi5 between RTi8's and think they sound great together. My sound is 95% for HT so I wanted dialogue to be crisp and clear.
post #1652 of 34670
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Originally Posted by bmplockmonster View Post

i have lsi15,lsic and ads surrounds and im posting to ask for some feedback on them.i recently purchased an outlaw 7500 amp and its hooked up to myonkyo 805 and since the purchase of the amp i have blown out the tweeters or xover(im not sure since both were repaired)IN BOTH SPEAKERS.after waiting a month i just got them back 2 days ago and have managed to blow them again only this time along w/ the center as well.i was told these speakers NEED power.thats the reason i got the amp in the first place.the manager at tweeter said he would swap them out for another pair which was great of them.idont think its the speakers becouse of obvios reasons so its either the amp or the user.i know i sound like a 17y/o who turned up the volume to loud but i thought these speakers could handle it,so what im getting at is am i wrong did i just turn ithe volume to loud.if so that stinks,i spent $1700 on an amp that i cant turn up louder than my reciever could putout the lsi are polks best speakers(i believe)so i would think they could handle 300w into 4ohms.

any and all commentare appreciated,Brian

Brian, that should be a very good combination...you may have had defective speakers...but, as rmccully said...how loud are you listening. Are you calibrated with a SPL meter manually or through Audessey? what's the channel trim on the receiver? Does the amp have a gain control or full boat?

I suspect you might be having a conflict between, possibly, input impedence, eq, calibration and/or amp gain. If the speakers weren't defective you either blew the speakers through clipping (something that shouldn't happen) or overpowering. You might also check with Outlaw about any known issues with Onkyo 805s.

Let us know...and if we can't help you here, go over the Club Polk and ask there.
post #1653 of 34670
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Originally Posted by rmccully View Post

OK. Honestly, how loud are you listening? Before people take their time to troubleshoot all of the things that could be wrong, they need to know if you are listening at ear-bleeding levels before they help you try to figure out if you have power surges or something improperly setup. These are Polk's top of the line, but they're not PA speakers.

no flies on me,i was cranking them.probably at 10db and i believe the onkyo goes to 17db but i could be wrong.please note i am not bi-amping w/ the receiver.I'm not a pro but it has been a hobby of mine for a little while.some times a little knowledge is more dangerous than none.but i do have it hooked up properly,thats the stuff i know but the part i am trying to figure out is if i am getting power surges or am i going to loud.THIS MY FIRST SEPARATE AMP and I'm trying to figure out if its my fault they keep blowing.i have a feeling that it probably is and if thats the case I'm a little disappointed that i probably cant get much better or should i say louder than my receiver.
Thanks
post #1654 of 34670
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Originally Posted by bmplockmonster View Post

no flies on me,i was cranking them.probably at 10db and i believe the onkyo goes to 17db but i could be wrong.please note i am not bi-amping w/ the receiver.I'm not a pro but it has been a hobby of mine for a little while.some times a little knowledge is more dangerous than none.but i do have it hooked up properly,thats the stuff i know but the part i am trying to figure out is if i am getting power surges or am i going to loud.THIS MY FIRST SEPARATE AMP and I'm trying to figure out if its my fault they keep blowing.i have a feeling that it probably is and if thats the case I'm a little disappointed that i probably cant get much better or should i say louder than my receiver.
Thanks

So how did they sound when you were cranking them? Did you notice distortion? Did you notice when they blew, and if so, was it during a particularly loud passage? I don't really know for what technical reasons you may have a malfunction. However, +10dB is very loud. Both of the times the speakers blew, were they driven by the outlaw, or were they ever driven by the Onkyo itself?
post #1655 of 34670
So I finally get the green light to "finish the Theater Room". I have never had one so I spent alot of time researching various components. Okay, here's what I got myself for Christmas. I am NOT an Audiophile nor claim to know JackS#$% so go easy on me. I just am interested from you guys, the experts, if this sounds like a decent set-up.

Speakers: LEFT/RIGHT: Polk LCi-RTS105's
CENTER: Polk LCIC
REAR: Polk LC265i's
SUB: Velodyne SPL1000R

Blue Ray: Panasonic DMP-BD30K
HD DVD: Toshiba HD-A35
Wii
X-Box 360

Projector: JVC iLA RS-1

Receiver: Denon AVR 4306

Screen: Stewart Firehawk G3 1080p

8 Berkliner All Leather Theater Seats, 8 Butt Kickers, 2 AMPS, 10 lit cupholders

Controller: RTI-T4

What I don't know is WHAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST MOVIE
post #1656 of 34670
300 on hd will blow you away visually and the audio will make u whimper......altho for more of an audio shock I do like the day after tomorrow altho i dont like it as much for movie purposes
post #1657 of 34670
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Originally Posted by rmccully View Post

So how did they sound when you were cranking them? Did you notice distortion? Did you notice when they blew, and if so, was it during a particularly loud passage? I don't really know for what technical reasons you may have a malfunction. However, +10dB is very loud. Both of the times the speakers blew, were they driven by the outlaw, or were they ever driven by the Onkyo itself?

they sounded crystal clear,no distortion.when they blew it was just the highs and trier is absolutely no sound coming from them thats why i thought the crossover but I'm no engineer.and they blew both times on the outlaw i didnt really use them to much w/ just the reciever which when i get them fixed i will try just the reciever again and if that works out i'll sell the amp
post #1658 of 34670
thanks for the help on the center channels. i going to put the to the ear test and see which one i like. thanks
post #1659 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Jwbuff05 View Post

So I finally get the green light to "finish the Theater Room". I have never had one so I spent alot of time researching various components. Okay, here's what I got myself for Christmas. I am NOT an Audiophile nor claim to know JackS#$% so go easy on me. I just am interested from you guys, the experts, if this sounds like a decent set-up.

Speakers: LEFT/RIGHT: Polk LCi-RTS105's
CENTER: Polk LCIC
REAR: Polk LC265i's
SUB: Velodyne SPL1000R

Blue Ray: Panasonic DMP-BD30K
HD DVD: Toshiba HD-A35
Wii
X-Box 360

Projector: JVC iLA RS-1

Receiver: Denon AVR 4306

Screen: Stewart Firehawk G3 1080p

8 Berkliner All Leather Theater Seats, 8 Butt Kickers, 2 AMPS, 10 lit cupholders

Controller: RTI-T4

What I don't know is WHAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST MOVIE

Sounds like a bangup theater!

Hmmm, I can't tell if you already BOUGHT all this stuff, or if this is what you are pondering? If you already bought, disregard what I am about to say! If not, listen up!

Here are my minor suggestions! BTW, I have an all LSi home theater, LSi15s with four LC65i in walls.

For your surrounds, save the money from the LC265is and get four LC65fxs. You will spend close to the same amount, and have 7.1 with dipole surrounds. Nice!

Second, if you want the Denon receiver, DEFINATELY go with a 4808ci or 3808ci. Those will decode the DTS-HD master audio that the Panny and Tosh will bitstream over HDMI. The 4806 won't. What does does this mean to you? HIGH DEF AUDIO NIRVANA! I would personally recommend the 3808ci (save the difference in cost) and get an separate amp, with BIG power!

Those LSi/LCi speakersa are 4 ohm, and virtually no receiver is capable of giving them the power they want. They are a very power hungry speaker. I have a 7x300 @ 4ohm Emotiva MPS-1 amp, and the current MPS2 can be had for about $1600. PHENOMINAL amp!

Finally, on the sub.... SVS PB12/Plus 2. Will smoke that velodyne, hands down, for $1099 right now. Search around and see what others have said about them! For $1499 you can get the PB13 Ultra, which will reliably get down to 10hz!! SMOKIN!

Here is a pic of my setup. You can see the LC65i, LSi15, and the AV gear in the rack.

post #1660 of 34670
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Originally Posted by bmplockmonster View Post

they sounded crystal clear,no distortion.when they blew it was just the highs and trier is absolutely no sound coming from them thats why i thought the crossover but I'm no engineer.and they blew both times on the outlaw i didnt really use them to much w/ just the reciever which when i get them fixed i will try just the reciever again and if that works out i'll sell the amp

Brian, I think you fried you speakers through clipping...calibrated AVRs should be giving you just about everything they can at -0. You likely have headroom with the amp, but +10 would be pushing it. You likely hit a peak (or several) and then pop went the weasel. What is the SPL level during average music playback at -10?
post #1661 of 34670
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Originally Posted by fst96se View Post

Sounds like a bangup theater!

Hmmm, I can't tell if you already BOUGHT all this stuff, or if this is what you are pondering? If you already bought, disregard what I am about to say! If not, listen up!

Here are my minor suggestions! BTW, I have an all LSi home theater, LSi15s with four LC65i in walls.

For your surrounds, save the money from the LC265is and get four LC65fxs. You will spend close to the same amount, and have 7.1 with dipole surrounds. Nice!

Second, if you want the Denon receiver, DEFINATELY go with a 4808ci or 3808ci. Those will decode the DTS-HD master audio that the Panny and Tosh will bitstream over HDMI. The 4806 won't. What does does this mean to you? HIGH DEF AUDIO NIRVANA! I would personally recommend the 3808ci (save the difference in cost) and get an separate amp, with BIG power!

Those LSi/LCi speakersa are 4 ohm, and virtually no receiver is capable of giving them the power they want. They are a very power hungry speaker. I have a 7x300 @ 4ohm Emotiva MPS-1 amp, and the current MPS2 can be had for about $1600. PHENOMINAL amp!

Finally, on the sub.... SVS PB12/Plus 2. Will smoke that velodyne, hands down, for $1099 right now. Search around and see what others have said about them! For $1499 you can get the PB13 Ultra, which will reliably get down to 10hz!! SMOKIN!

Here is a pic of my setup. You can see the LC65i, LSi15, and the AV gear in the rack.


Thanks for the info; yeah, I already bought it. Can I add two more LC65's you suggest and make it 7.1? I post a pic when its done. Project completeion is Feb 3rd...oh yeah, that's Super Bowl Sunday, how convenient .
post #1662 of 34670
OK, so I basically have my front and center speakers (rti8/csi3). I'm a bit worried about the rears and I need some advice.

I was going to go the fxi3 surrounds but I'm not sure if I have enough space to maneuver the rear around to create the effects of dipole and bipole, so I may just go rti4/6 (cheaper anyway). Based from what I read here they say to match drivers, so the rti6 would be a better match for my rti8 right? Would I be really off if I were to get the rti4's?

Thanks.

Oh using the Onkyo 705 AVR.
post #1663 of 34670
I believe that the RTi8/6/4 all use the same tweeters, so they would all match well together... the 6 would give a little better bass, but if you run them small there would be little if any real difference between the RTi6 and the RTi4 as surrounds.

Don
post #1664 of 34670
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Originally Posted by fst96se View Post

Sounds like a bangup theater!

Hmmm, I can't tell if you already BOUGHT all this stuff, or if this is what you are pondering? If you already bought, disregard what I am about to say! If not, listen up!

Here are my minor suggestions! BTW, I have an all LSi home theater, LSi15s with four LC65i in walls.

For your surrounds, save the money from the LC265is and get four LC65fxs. You will spend close to the same amount, and have 7.1 with dipole surrounds. Nice!

Second, if you want the Denon receiver, DEFINATELY go with a 4808ci or 3808ci. Those will decode the DTS-HD master audio that the Panny and Tosh will bitstream over HDMI. The 4806 won't. What does does this mean to you? HIGH DEF AUDIO NIRVANA! I would personally recommend the 3808ci (save the difference in cost) and get an separate amp, with BIG power!

Those LSi/LCi speakersa are 4 ohm, and virtually no receiver is capable of giving them the power they want. They are a very power hungry speaker. I have a 7x300 @ 4ohm Emotiva MPS-1 amp, and the current MPS2 can be had for about $1600. PHENOMINAL amp!

Finally, on the sub.... SVS PB12/Plus 2. Will smoke that velodyne, hands down, for $1099 right now. Search around and see what others have said about them! For $1499 you can get the PB13 Ultra, which will reliably get down to 10hz!! SMOKIN!

Here is a pic of my setup. You can see the LC65i, LSi15, and the AV gear in the rack.


Your room looks awesome. I really like the audio rack and color scheme. Can you tell me where you got those plaques next to your audio rack. I would love some of those for my home theater. Do you have any more pictures of the room? Maybe PM me since this is off topic.
post #1665 of 34670
I am sure this question has been beat to death. Can you give me your opinions on the Bipole vs. Dipole, theory, suggestions....?

I have tried both ways and they sound different but with the movies I have listened to thus far I am having trouble deciding what set up to go with.

My set up consists of fxi3's positioned about 1' above listening level and 2-3' behind lisetening position.

My plan is to mount them on the wall soon and they will be about 5' above listen position and 3-4' behind listening level, what to you guys think about this change?
post #1666 of 34670
I was just reading some posts on bipole and dipole set up and realized that I may have the speakers on the wrong side. My fxi3's didn't come with a L or R on each speaker to tell me which one goes on what side. Right now I have them set up so that the tweeter and mid face me and the the tweeter port side faces away. Is this wrong and should be switched? When I set them up I just figured it should be like a normal speaker and the mid tweeter face the listening position.
post #1667 of 34670
That is the way I have mine positioned....according to Polk, they can be either way. What ever sounds best in your room.

Don
post #1668 of 34670
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Originally Posted by bilbo3660 View Post

I can't comment on the other two subs but I have been very happy with the eD A2-300 in the two months that I've had it. Don't play much music but it's great for HT.

So right now at Amazon, I can purchase >$400 worth of Polk (seriously considering 2x RTi12 @ $365.48 each) and I get the PSW505 for $105.40 with a instant discount = the entire thing for $836.36... what do you think about the A2-300 vrs 505 at $105.40???
post #1669 of 34670
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

So right now at Amazon, I can purchase >$400 worth of Polk (seriously considering 2x RTi12 @ $365.48 each) and I get the PSW505 for $105.40 with a instant discount = the entire thing for $836.36... what do you think about the A2-300 vrs 505 at $105.40???

For the most part of it's life the 505 sold for $550 retail. It was Polks best bang sub for quite awhile. It's not as capable as the A2-300 but it will give you clean and powerful 25hz for $100. You can always flip it for that. I say go for it. It won't be the last sub you purchase, but since they are giving it to you...????
post #1670 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Don1959 View Post

I believe that the RTi8/6/4 all use the same tweeters, so they would all match well together... the 6 would give a little better bass, but if you run them small there would be little if any real difference between the RTi6 and the RTi4 as surrounds.

Don

Thanks, I'll probably go with the rti4 since I got the eD-A5 350 SW to cover most of the bass, unless I'm missing another point?
post #1671 of 34670
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Originally Posted by 02somls1ws6 View Post

I am sure this question has been beat to death. Can you give me your opinions on the Bipole vs. Dipole, theory, suggestions....?

I have tried both ways and they sound different but with the movies I have listened to thus far I am having trouble deciding what set up to go with.

My set up consists of fxi3's positioned about 1' above listening level and 2-3' behind lisetening position.

My plan is to mount them on the wall soon and they will be about 5' above listen position and 3-4' behind listening level, what to you guys think about this change?

I have done more reading on the theory behind bipole or dipole set up. This really wasn't the place for this question, sorry, but you guys have a lot of knowledge with the polk equipment and set up so I value your opion.

Basically what it comes down to is if your speaker placement is such that your listening position is in the "null" area go with di. I think I will try to get my speakers up high and a little towards the back and go with a bi setting. With this set up I dont think you should be able to localize the speakers since they will but not in direct path of your ears at the viewing position.
post #1672 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Don1959 View Post

That is the way I have mine positioned....according to Polk, they can be either way. What ever sounds best in your room.

Don

Thanks for the response. I thought this set up made the most sense but wasn't totally for sure after reading some posts in the set up section of the forum. How do some of you other fxi3 owners have it set up?

If I was running them in Dipole and due to the reverse polarity of one side would it cause problems if they were backwards and cause some out of phase issue with the mains and center?
post #1673 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

For the most part of it's life the 505 sold for $550 retail. It was Polks best bang sub for quite awhile. It's not as capable as the A2-300 but it will give you clean and powerful 25hz for $100. You can always flip it for that. I say go for it. It won't be the last sub you purchase, but since they are giving it to you...????

So, I decided to go with it and Amazon raised the price of the RTi12s to $440 this morning Time to wait
post #1674 of 34670
Hey all,

Very first post here. I decided to upgrade the ol HTiB and purchased the Polk RM95 set of satellites and just wanted your expert opinions on them. Let me start off by saying that I like them. Sound great for such small speakers. I test drove the Klipsch Quintet III's before these and like the bi-directional aspect of them. Plus they were much smaller than the Klipsch's which is better for my HT set-up. Not very impressed with the PSW10 though that came free though.

The only gripe with the satellites is that they don't have binding posts. $600 speakers and they have spring connectors! Come on...

Anyways, I'm just putting it out there that I am now a proud Polk owner. I am still in the return period though so I'm wondering if there are better Polks out there for less. I understand that these are newer speakers so you may not have listened to them but just thought I'd ask. Here is my current set-up:

Polk RM95 Set of 5
Klipsch Synergy Sub-10
Pioneer Elite VSX81-TXV
Sony 42" KDF-E42A10

Look forward to many wonderful conversations going forward.

Aaron
post #1675 of 34670
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

So, I decided to go with it and Amazon raised the price of the RTi12s to $440 this morning Time to wait

Head over to Frys after Xmas and make them an offer...I know they'll work with you on TVs...couldn't hurt.
post #1676 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

Brian, that should be a very good combination...you may have had defective speakers...but, as rmccully said...how loud are you listening. Are you calibrated with a SPL meter manually or through Audessey? what's the channel trim on the receiver? Does the amp have a gain control or full boat?

I suspect you might be having a conflict between, possibly, input impedence, eq, calibration and/or amp gain. If the speakers weren't defective you either blew the speakers through clipping (something that shouldn't happen) or overpowering. You might also check with Outlaw about any known issues with Onkyo 805s.

Let us know...and if we can't help you here, go over the Club Polk and ask there.

Ron i did check w/ outlaw they did not mention any problems w/ the 805.outlaw did mention they might be overpowered though,he did specifically mention klipsh as a good match for the outlaw 7500.when i took the lsi's back to tweeter for repair the manager over there was VERY helpfull(that made me glad i bought locally off an autherized dealer).he was going swap them out for a new pair as this pair was floor model btu i told him i didn't think it was the speakers.the highs go in both speakers not once but TWICE.so after he spent an hour w/ me he mentioned getting a new line in that may fit me and that just so happened to be klipsh.so i have gone w/ w the the suggestions of them and all walked out of tweeter w the klipsh rs-36 fronts although they didn't have the center or surrounds in yet.so far so good,but i have not been cranking them just letting them break in. thanks for everyones help and we'll see how things go.thier more sensitive so maybe i won't be turning the volume as much.
thanks abain everyone and merry christmas
post #1677 of 34670
I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair of Monitor 60s, pair of Monitor 30s and a CS1 center.. Am I going to be disappointed? Haven't decided on a receiver yet.. Any receiver recommendations for this setup? 7.1 isn't necessarily something I need, I just want clean power and enough RMS to feed these speakers to get the best quality sound out of them. And I suppose i'll need the newest Analog support on the receiver as well since i'll be buying a Toshiba A35 or XA2 HD-DVD player with the Analog output.

Thanks!
post #1678 of 34670
I'm in the market for a major upgrade from a sort of jerry rigged 5.1 logitech computer system in my living room. I want to get rti8s for fronts and a onkyo tx-sr705 receiver. Do you guys think I will need an amp as well or upgrage further to the tx-sr805? Or do you think the 705 will drive the rti8s without an appreciable difference?

Thanks
post #1679 of 34670
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Originally Posted by cut2cure View Post

I'm in the market for a major upgrade from a sort of jerry rigged 5.1 logitech computer system in my living room. I want to get rti8s for fronts and a onkyo tx-sr705 receiver. Do you guys think I will need an amp as well or upgrage further to the tx-sr805? Or do you think the 705 will drive the rti8s without an appreciable difference?

Thanks

The Onkyo 705 works perfectly fine with the RTi8's.
post #1680 of 34670
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Originally Posted by bmplockmonster View Post

Ron i did check w/ outlaw they did not mention any problems w/ the 805.outlaw did mention they might be overpowered though,he did specifically mention klipsh as a good match for the outlaw 7500.when i took the lsi's back to tweeter for repair the manager over there was VERY helpfull(that made me glad i bought locally off an autherized dealer).he was going swap them out for a new pair as this pair was floor model btu i told him i didn't think it was the speakers.the highs go in both speakers not once but TWICE.so after he spent an hour w/ me he mentioned getting a new line in that may fit me and that just so happened to be klipsh.so i have gone w/ w the the suggestions of them and all walked out of tweeter w the klipsh rs-36 fronts although they didn't have the center or surrounds in yet.so far so good,but i have not been cranking them just letting them break in. thanks for everyones help and we'll see how things go.thier more sensitive so maybe i won't be turning the volume as much.
thanks abain everyone and merry christmas

Klipsch are so sensitive that you probably don't need the amp. You may love them, but they'll be very different sonically. LSis = laid back, Klipsch = horn loaded, intense brightness (at least to me). However, that might be exactly what you want. You definitely won't need to play them at +10 to get loud .
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