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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

Sorry - all I remembered was that you are retired. So we will scratch you from the geezer list.

If I had stayed in the military I would have retired in 1990... that's before Bill Clinton, before Desert Storm.

LOL. Retired from the military means that I am in my second career and actually have to work for a living now... LMAO! biggrin.gif
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Just thought I'd post an update in regards to my experience with the xpa-5 since I have had it connected for several days now. (I also posted this in the XPA-5 Thread)

I have really put my system through its paces with a variety of music and it all has sounded sooo good....good as in clear and clean. I had a co-worker over for an evening of music listening. She is in her own right a budding audio enthusiast. Her dad is a consultant for a custom installer and she has had the opportunity to listen to a variety of gear when growing up. She like me is a music lover first. She was very impressed with the clarity, loudness and fullness of my set up. She never heard of emotiva before, and now she wants me to help her set up a system for her in a few months and she is very open to emotiva gear, especially when i told her the price tag of the amp.

I have only watched one blu-ray movie since the xpa-5 install...Ted...good comedy flick, but not much for reference demo material. I have however been re-watching the first season of Babylon 5 on dvd, again not the best "reference level source". This particular TV series on dvd was always difficult for me to dial in to sound "right" before. Especially with respect to the voices. I would either have to turn it up to where voices started to sound a bit harsh or I would have enable dynamic volume in order to get it to sound "right" to me, which of course changes the dynamic range of the source. With the xpa-5, this is no longer the case. It is very clear and I can fully understand the dialog and can have it at a nice volume level to fully experience the "fullness" of the surround mix. I was not expecting this and am very impressed. My set up is not my first experience with hi-fi gear. I grew up in a house hold where dad always had the latest and greatest a/v stuff and have heard a variety of speakers, amps, receivers etc over the years. However, finally I feel like I am on "par" with what I remember hearing when growing up...even though my speakers themselves are not exceptionally high-end.

One interesting thing I have discovered in regards to HBO broadcasts. I have read here on avs about members experiencing small static pops when watching HBO, even at moderate and low volume levels...evidently it has something to do with the way HBO compresses their content. I never heard them previously, but while channel surfing I landed upon HBO playing Galaxy Quest and I watched a few minutes of it and l heard the popping noises for the first time. I can only guess that either the xpa-5 is more sensitive to picking up this compressed distortion or that dish network has changed the way HBO is fed to me within the last week.

Something else that I have done set up wise with the inclusion of the xpa-5 is that I have set my crossovers much lower. Previously I pretty much did the 80hz crossover thing, even though audyssey in conjunction with onkyo's auto cal routine would measure the -3 frequency response in my room of my speakers at 40hz. I did play with the settings sometimes, and would sometimes prefer a 60hz crossover on my mains. Now with the xpa-5 in the mix it allows the lower notes to be played much more easily and I have left all my speakers at 40hz after running audyssey. I must say that there is a noticeable increase in volume and clarity of mid bass frequencies. Also keep in mind that my subs are not the best out there either (dual psw505's). I haven't decided for sure if I am going to keep my crossovers at 40hz, but it does sound really good crossed that low now. Much less boominess with the lower crossover, though I didn't have a ton of boominess before, there was just enough to be annoying sometimes. For this reason alone I may keep my crossover lower for now until new speakers and subs arrive at my doorstep...but that probably wont be for at least a year if not longer.

All in all in am very pleased with the inclusion of the xpa-5 into my set up. When I moved into my new house late last year and ended up with a larger space then I previously had in the old house, my gear just couldn't keep up with the volume levels I desired at the distance I now use. Previously my main listening position was just under 7 ft from the speakers, now I am much closer to 10.5 ft. That bit of difference along with the increase volume size of my new room was just enough to show the weakness in my avr. Now does everyone need an amp?....not likely, but in the right circumstances adding an external amp can certainly overcome weaknesses when higher spl levels are desired. I also plan to add some room treatments to my room in the near future, as I do get a fair amount of resonating throughout and it is sometimes annoying, but until I add them, I can just turn up the loud knob until I can no longer hear the room resonating tongue.tongue.gif
post #16683 of 34945
Nice summary Jason. smile.gif
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CSiA6 being delivered today to replace a CS2.

I'm leaving the surrounds as M30s.

I don't care how hard you guys try convincing me that I need RTi A1's or RTi A3s ;-)
Edited by defdog99 - 1/28/13 at 10:18am
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67jason: Whats your setup? Can you elaborate your equipments?
post #16686 of 34945
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Originally Posted by defdog99 View Post

CSiA6 being delivered today to replace a C2.

I'm leaving the surrounds as M30s.

I don't care how hard you guys try convincing me that I need RTi A1's or RTi A3s ;-)

How much did you pay for the CSiA6 if you don't mind me asking?
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I went with Amazons price. I know newegg can get cheaper, but you have to deal with waiting and hoping, plus I had gift cards.
Got it for $1.50 ;-)
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Folks,

I've been lurking for about a week and scanning through the archives - lots of great info here, thanks to all the regulars! Now I'm seeking some advice. Just upgraded from incredibly small apartment to somewhat larger one. New living room still on the smaller side, about 13'x13'. For the last five years I've been pretty satisfied in very small living spaces using a RM6750 surround system in a 5.1 config. Now that I have a little more room and a 50" flatscreen, I want to start upgrading so I can enjoy music through my system again - I am a music teacher and fairly particular about SQ. So I want speakers which will sound great for HT but also do well for 2.1 or multichannel stereo playback.

Unfortunately the budget is extremely small as the move did in my old Sony AVR, so I just purchased the Yamaha Aventage 720 to replace it. Now I'm looking to upgrade the fronts and center, and use the four 6750 satellites in a 7.1 config, probably wall/ceiling mounted.

Based on what I've read here, online reviews, and budget, I'm thinking a pair of RTi4s (Amazon, $159.95) and a CSi5 (refurb at the Polk eBay site, $225). Probably not all at the same time, as I'm also going to need to get appropriate stands for the fronts and a shelf of some sort for the center and can't spend $500+ all at one time right now. Moving is expensive! Also trying to future-proof my setup, so whatever I get for fronts right now I will want to move to surround/rear positions later, when I upgrade the fronts again. And I'd rather not mess around with another center until I'm in a position to put together a top-of-the-line system later on.

Thoughts? Am I going to have to upgrade my sub to get a good sound with the better speakers? It provides solid sound right now with the satellites in my smallish room, but I don't know how it's going to sound with the RTi4s. How about the CSi5 - is it too much speaker for my space? Should I look at a CSi3 or CSiA4 instead?

Any input from the Polk experts greatly appreciated, thanks!!

--Matt Knecht
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Originally Posted by mknecht01 View Post

Folks,

I've been lurking for about a week and scanning through the archives - lots of great info here, thanks to all the regulars! Now I'm seeking some advice. Just upgraded from incredibly small apartment to somewhat larger one. New living room still on the smaller side, about 13'x13'. For the last five years I've been pretty satisfied in very small living spaces using a RM6750 surround system in a 5.1 config. Now that I have a little more room and a 50" flatscreen, I want to start upgrading so I can enjoy music through my system again - I am a music teacher and fairly particular about SQ. So I want speakers which will sound great for HT but also do well for 2.1 or multichannel stereo playback.

Unfortunately the budget is extremely small as the move did in my old Sony AVR, so I just purchased the Yamaha Aventage 720 to replace it. Now I'm looking to upgrade the fronts and center, and use the four 6750 satellites in a 7.1 config, probably wall/ceiling mounted.

Based on what I've read here, online reviews, and budget, I'm thinking a pair of RTi4s (Amazon, $159.95) and a CSi5 (refurb at the Polk eBay site, $225). Probably not all at the same time, as I'm also going to need to get appropriate stands for the fronts and a shelf of some sort for the center and can't spend $500+ all at one time right now. Moving is expensive! Also trying to future-proof my setup, so whatever I get for fronts right now I will want to move to surround/rear positions later, when I upgrade the fronts again. And I'd rather not mess around with another center until I'm in a position to put together a top-of-the-line system later on.

Thoughts? Am I going to have to upgrade my sub to get a good sound with the better speakers? It provides solid sound right now with the satellites in my smallish room, but I don't know how it's going to sound with the RTi4s. How about the CSi5 - is it too much speaker for my space? Should I look at a CSi3 or CSiA4 instead?

Any input from the Polk experts greatly appreciated, thanks!!

--Matt Knecht
I started with the Polk RM6750's myself and currently have the RTi4's and CSi3 center and find it was great upgrade on the performance. One major improvement one can do to that set-up is get a better subwoofer the 8" that comes with the RM6750 isn't the best. But to get a decent improvement its at least $200+
post #16690 of 34945
Stick with the Csi5. If you drop down to a Csi3 or CsiA4 you'll just end up upgrading later.
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

Just thought I'd post an update in regards to my experience with the xpa-5 since I have had it connected for several days now. (I also posted this in the XPA-5 Thread)

Jason, congratulations on your XPA-5. I experienced the same things you did when I got my XPA-3 including the lowering of the xovers. The overall sound gained such an improvment.

If you get a chance to put your ears on an XPA-2, I strongly encourage it. The extra power will take your clarity and detail to another level.
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Finally got the Polk RTA 11TL's and got em hooked up this evening. Had to leave suddenly but the few mins I got with em was HEAVENLY.

Looking forward to as much time as I can get with em.

My setup right now is all digital. I am using XBMC as my Media Player to send out the FLAC files via ASIO to the Audio GD NFB-5 via USB. The Audio GD has a variable output that I am using to connect to the tube amp. The interconnects are Audioquest G-Snakes. Nothing special with the speaker wires, just Monoprice 14 gauge for right now.

All the IC's and SC's will be upgraded later when I have extra cash.






















The Nerd Collection








Oh and heres the other small upgrade I have been working on wink.gif.....




The Nursery!

Yes these are crappy iPhone pics because I dont feel like pulling out the better camera....

For those interested, the color scheme was all my idea (including the tree), the chair was a CL find by me as well for 80 bucks. The bedding was custom made by my wife grandma, and a bunch of other stuff.














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Nice Enders. Love the baby's room too. Very nice job of decorating.
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Nice pics EndersShadow. The baby's setup is very nice.
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Great looking nursery.
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Originally Posted by kevinmscs View Post

67jason: Whats your setup? Can you elaborate your equipments?

sure...

monitor 70's front
monitor 60's wides
cs2 center
monitor 40's surrounds
dual psw505 subs
onkyo 809
denon 1611 blu-ray/sacd/dvd-a player
sony CDP-CX355 cd player
mitssubishi 65738 tv
VIP 722k dish network dvr
sony ps3
xpa-5

Nothing exceptionally high-end, but my modest gear serves me well.
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

Just thought I'd post an update in regards to my experience with the xpa-5 since I have had it connected for several days now. (I also posted this in the XPA-5 Thread)

Jason, congratulations on your XPA-5. I experienced the same things you did when I got my XPA-3 including the lowering of the xovers. The overall sound gained such an improvment.

If you get a chance to put your ears on an XPA-2, I strongly encourage it. The extra power will take your clarity and detail to another level.

funny you mention the xpa-2. I as initially going to buy that amp during emo's holiday sale, but it sold out before I was able to free up funds for the amp purchase. so got the 5. I am thinking about getting the 2 if there is a sale around july 4th.
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Finally joined the ranks of SDA owners. I have had several Polks over the years, my favorite being a pair of NM Monitor 10b's I owned for a while. I saw a pair of SDA's setting in the back of a local thrift last month. I asked the owner about them. He was going to "fix them and put them on ebay for $400". I asked how much as is. Would not sell them to me. I watched them sitting there for over a month. I walked in last Friday afternoon, there they were up front. Turned out to be a pair of SDA II's. Marked $149 and with bad speakers written on them. They even had the interconnect cable. So I paid my money, loaded the up and headed home. They are in nice shape with only a few small dings. Got them home and was finally able to look at them proper Sunday night. There are 3 bad 6.5" drivers. I had one DCM 6.5, put it in, like what I here. I'll probably order the replacements today. Any idea what ohm they are suppose to be? I seen both 4 & 8 ohm listed. Anyway, I'll think I am going to love these speakers. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Old AV Buff View Post

Finally joined the ranks of SDA owners. I have had several Polks over the years, my favorite being a pair of NM Monitor 10b's I owned for a while. I saw a pair of SDA's setting in the back of a local thrift last month. I asked the owner about them. He was going to "fix them and put them on ebay for $400". I asked how much as is. Would not sell them to me. I watched them sitting there for over a month. I walked in last Friday afternoon, there they were up front. Turned out to be a pair of SDA II's. Marked $149 and with bad speakers written on them. They even had the interconnect cable. So I paid my money, loaded the up and headed home. They are in nice shape with only a few small dings. Got them home and was finally able to look at them proper Sunday night. There are 3 bad 6.5" drivers. I had one DCM 6.5, put it in, like what I here. I'll probably order the replacements today. Any idea what ohm they are suppose to be? I seen both 4 & 8 ohm listed. Anyway, I'll think I am going to love these speakers. smile.gif

Dont know, but if you didnt already know Polk sells replacement woofers for their SDA's IIRC. I would take out the bad ones and write down the model number on them as they dont always use all the same drivers.

Also talk to Polk about what replacement tweeters they have, since those were new Polk came out with some much better tweeters that are drop in replacements so no work involved on your part.
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

After seeing several "whats the difference" posts between the New Monitors and the Series ii Monitors, I thought I would do my best to do a comparison between the New Monitors and the Series ii Monitors. I did my best to find the features and specs for both series'. I did not include any crossover information (save for the crossover note under the 70/75T section) because I could not find any crossover specs published for the New Monitors. Other then the tweeter being relocated to be above the mid drivers on the New Monitors, the biggest change is the "ugly" grill on the New Monitors and the fact that the New Monitor bookshelf models no longer feature dual 5 way binding posts, they only have one set of binding posts. Almost all specs between the two series' are identical. There is a slight frequency response difference between the Monitor 60 and 65T which may suggest there may be "more to it" then whats on the surface. However the spec difference is really minor so it just could be a misprint on Polks website. There is also some interesting wording on the Polk site regarding the feet on the New Monitors (self leveling and adjustable?). I suspect it is just more "marketing speak" because honestly I cannot tell a difference between the two series' feet by looking at pictures.


Monitor 30 Series ii:


New Monitor 35B:



Differences:
Tweeter relocated above the mid woofer on the 35B model.
Monitor 30 Series ii has dual 5 way binding posts for bi-amping/bi-wiring. Monitor 35B does not.

What they have in common:
They both use the same 1” Dynamic Balance silk dome tweeter and same 5 1/4" mid range Dynamic Balance Bi-laminate composite cone driver.
Same Frequency range: 55HZ-25kHz
Same Upper -3dB Limit 24KHz
Same Lower -3dB Limit 63Hz
Recommended Amplifier Power 20-100 watts per channel
Both are 8 ohm 89dB efficient speakers.
Both have the exact same dimensions and weight and both utilize the rear key hole mounting hook.

Monitor 40 Series ii:


New Monitor 45B:



Differences:
Tweeter relocated above the dual mid woofers on the 45B model. This also causes the two mid drivers to be much closer together
Monitor 40 Series ii has dual 5 way binding posts for bi-amping/bi-wiring. Monitor 45B does not.

What they have in common:
They both use the same 1” Dynamic Balance silk dome tweeter and same 5 1/4" mid range Dynamic Balance Bi-laminate composite cone drivers.
Same Frequency range: 47Hz-25kHz
Same Upper -3dB Limit 24 kHz
Same Lower -3dB Limit 57 Hz
Recommended Amplifier Power 20-125 watts per channel
Both are 8 ohm 89dB efficient speakers.
Both have the exact same dimensions and weight.

Monitor 50 Series ii:


New Monitor 55T:


Differences:
Tweeter relocated above the mid woofer on the 55T model.
**I also noticed a little verbage on Polks website regarding the feet on the New Monitor Series tower speakers, it reads: " Adjustable Footing: Floor-standing Monitor Series models feature fat non-skid leveling feet or carpet spikes, for stability on any type of floor. More stability equals more efficiency; less energy wasted, and better performance." I cannot tell from the pics of the New Monitors if they do indeed have adjustable leveling feet or optional carpet spikes or if this is just marketing speak. I do suspect it is just marketing speak, but will need an owner of one of the New Monitor towers to confirm. Looking at the pics it seems to my eyes the feet on the New Monitor towers look just like the Monitor Series ii feet.

What they have in common:
They both use the same 1” Dynamic Balance silk dome tweeter and same 5 1/4" mid range Dynamic Balance Bi-laminate composite cone drivers.
Same Frequency range: 42Hz-25kHz
Same Upper -3dB Limit 24 kHz
Same Lower -3dB Limit 52Hz
Recommended Amplifier Power 20-150 watts per channel
Both are 8 ohm 89dB efficient speakers.
Both have the exact same dimensions and weight.
Both feature dual 5 way binding posts.

Monitor 60 Series ii:


New Monitor 65T:


Differences:
Tweeter relocated above the mid woofer on the 65T model.
Frequency response Monitor 60 series ii: 38Hz-25kHz
Frequency response New Monitor 65T: 35Hz-25kHz
**I also noticed a little verbage on Polks website regarding the feet on the New Monitor Series tower speakers, it reads: " Adjustable Footing: Floor-standing Monitor Series models feature fat non-skid leveling feet or carpet spikes, for stability on any type of floor. More stability equals more efficiency; less energy wasted, and better performance." I cannot tell from the pics of the New Monitors if they do indeed have adjustable leveling feet or optional carpet spikes or if this is just marketing speak. I do suspect it is just marketing speak, but will need an owner of one of the New Monitor towers to confirm. Looking at the pics it seems to my eyes the feet on the New Monitor towers look just like the Monitor Series ii feet.

What they have in common:
They both use the same 1” Dynamic Balance silk dome tweeter and same 5 1/4" mid range Dynamic Balance Bi-laminate composite cone drivers.
Same Upper -3dB Limit 24 kHz
Same Lower -3dB Limit 48 Hz
Recommended Amplifier Power 20-200 watts per channel
Both are 8 ohm 90dB efficient speakers.
Both have the exact same dimensions and weight.
Both feature dual 5 way binding posts.

Monitor 70 Series ii:


New Monitor 75T


Differences:
Tweeter relocated above the mid woofer on the 75T model.
**I also noticed a little verbiage on Polks website regarding the feet on the New Monitor Series tower speakers, it reads: " Adjustable Footing: Floor-standing Monitor Series models feature fat non-skid leveling feet or carpet spikes, for stability on any type of floor. More stability equals more efficiency; less energy wasted, and better performance." I cannot tell from the pics of the New Monitors if they do indeed have adjustable leveling feet or optional carpet spikes or if this is just marketing speak. I do suspect it is just marketing speak, but will need an owner of one of the New Monitor towers to confirm. Looking at the pics it seems to my eyes the feet on the New Monitor towers look just like the Monitor Series ii feet.

**Crossover note:
The specs listed on newegg.com for the 75T's say that they are a 4 way speaker (I suspect this is wrong... the egg is listing the 75Ts as also using the smaller 5 1/4"' mid drivers which is wrong for the 75T's). According to Polk the 70's feature a "Cascade Tapered Array (2-1/2-way) design. Both drivers play bass frequencies but only one driver (the upper one) plays upper-midrange frequencies."
Polk doesn't list any special crossover feature for the 75T's. Perhaps a significant crossover redesign between the two or perhaps just more "marketing speak". If there is a significant crossover redesign then there could be a noticeable difference in sound between the two towers. Can anyone confirm?

What they have in common:
They both use the same 1” Dynamic Balance silk dome tweeter and same6 1/2" mid range Dynamic Balance Bi-laminate composite cone drivers.
Same Frequency range: 30Hz-25kHz
Same Upper -3dB Limit 24 kHz
Same Lower -3dB Limit 40Hz
Recommended Amplifier Power 20-275 watts per channel
Both are 8 ohm 90dB efficient speakers.
Both have the exact same dimensions and weight.
Both feature dual 5 way binding posts.



(I will add the center speakers to this post in a day or two)

Thank you for this! I just came across this after Stanley pointed it out to me. I am trying to decide whether the old series or the new series is the better way to go.
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I think they are pretty much on par with each other so whatever you can find at a lower price would be my choice. Not sure of all the models but new Monitor 70's are a hard find if you can find them at all. The matching CS2 has dried up also.

Jason did some nice work.
Edited by XStanleyX - 1/29/13 at 7:34am
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^^^as far as i am concerned, get whichever series you can that costs less. there is very little beyond cosmetics that have been changed in the new series. granted i haven't had my ears on a set of the new ones yet, but all indications that i can tell is that sound quality should be basically the same. same goes for the differences between the monitors and tsi lines...just cosmetics mainly. i have heard the monitor 70s and tsi500's side by side in my room and there was no discernible difference that i could hear.
post #16703 of 34945
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Not sure of all the models but new Monitor 70's are a hard find if you can find them at all.

75T's were in NewEgg's promo email this morning for I think around $220.
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

75T's were in NewEgg's promo email this morning for I think around $220.

Still not a bad price. Gone are the days of the $150 monitor 70's. A good time for the folks who got them at that price. Don't think the 75T's will get near that for awhile.
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Still not a bad price. Gone are the days of the $150 monitor 70's. A good time for the folks who got them at that price. Don't think the 75T's will get near that for awhile.

IIRC I paid $170-180 for the series II M70's and that was the best sale price in those days.
post #16706 of 34945
Im glad i got 2 M70's recently for $300 cash price. Surely hard to find commodity at this time.
post #16707 of 34945
-Hello. I have a pair of RT10's and a PSW350 and want to get the best match for a 5.1 system. Polk's Vintage site recommends CS400i or CS245i center and F/X500i or F/X300i surrounds. Finding these is difficult and knowing what you're buying is a crap-shoot so, any other RT10 owners willing to share your systems and secrets using more current Polk products?
-I'm also wondering about the dipole F/X's. My room configuration is a tough one. It's been great in stereo, but the surrounds will be the problem. We watch/listen from a loveseat with walls next to and behind the left seat, so that speaker would be almost overhead. There isn't a wall behind the right seat so the right speaker would be about 6-7' from the right seat. It won't be bad for the right seat (mine...She gets the end-table) but the left seat won't be perfect. If it was up to me I'd just move the couch over, block the opening, and make people walk around. ("it's NOT!!!"). Anyone have any experience with dipoles in a corner? Any muffling or reflection issues? I guess I could mess with how they're angled but only after I own them. Therein lies the rub... Thanks!
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Originally Posted by kevinmscs View Post

Im glad i got 2 M70's recently for $300 cash price. Surely hard to find commodity at this time.

Unless you live near RobLee lol
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

Finally got the Polk RTA 11TL's and got em hooked up this evening. Had to leave suddenly but the few mins I got with em was HEAVENLY.

Looking forward to as much time as I can get with em.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


What a great taste!!!

Congrats!!!


Just in case, did you open the spoiler?
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OMG I feel like I'm about to have a bird...RTi8's coming via FedEx tomorrow and I can barely contain myself! Just had to share...
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