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Originally Posted by johnlaw12002 View Post

are polk subs not popular or do they under perform other stuff on the market.

That's about the size of it right there.

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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I believe the only polk sub that is worth buying would be the Polk Audio PSW Series PSW505 12" when it is on sale for $189.99. I like the Klipsch RW-12D on sale for $299.99.

I agree with Enders response to this.

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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

Once you hear the Csi5 you'll never again be satisfied with Monitors... the Rti's sound that much better.

That statement doesn't get anymore accurate than that!

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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

fortunately I'll never hear the csi/rti around here then. tongue.gif

You just wait, your time will come :-)

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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

I decided to try my luck with the f12..

I'm interested to hear your review on it. I considered it for a very long time when I was researching prior to my sub purchase.

Your speaker photo looks great, that's exactly what I had (in the monitor series) along with the M30's. Congratulations. When you think your ready for an upgrade, just feed them more (substantial, like the XPA-2) power, it'll be like getting new speakers.
post #17132 of 35126
Anyone know how to take of the grill on the front of the PSW110 ? Does it come off?
I want to look at the woofer but I don't want to break stuff taking off the grill...
post #17133 of 35126
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post




Well there she be. Haven't tried a blu-ray yet which is the main reason I got it but 2 channel stereo sounds great. Got a little more headroom than the Marantz of course. All of my previous amps were 2 channel. This thing is certainly bigger than the other amps I've owned.



Looks great! I'll get there some day.
post #17134 of 35126
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post


I'm interested to hear your review on it. I considered it for a very long time when I was researching prior to my sub purchase.

Your speaker photo looks great, that's exactly what I had (in the monitor series) along with the M30's. Congratulations. When you think your ready for an upgrade, just feed them more (substantial, like the XPA-2) power, it'll be like getting new speakers.

I am trying to figure out how to tune the f12 with audyssey first. Following a guide to set it to -/+3db for sub by turning down gain on sub and running audyessey over and over has the sub turned down so low I can't hear it. So tonight when I get home going to try again. However I did just crank the sub up for giggles and my wife was like, you're shaking the entire second floor...I was like really? I couldn't tell, I gotta figure out sub placement as well, but I am working with such limited space with this big sub. I have a sectional couch and I have only two places to put it. Behind the sectional against the wall, or on the left wall in front of my left speaker about 4 ft which is in front of the sectional's chase. There is no room between the left and right front speakers unfortunately because of the cabinet for all the acquirement in the middle and there is zero room on each side of the speaker.

the whole setup though, 25c, 75ts, 45b, just blow the ever living crap out of my 10 year old onkyo htib speakers out of the water it ain't even funny, and honestly it never sounded "bad" as it was the highest end onkyo speakers 10 years ago....but dang I can't wait to get the sub dialed in right.

and for that psw111, HAH. that thing sounds like a joke. it's sounds like someone put 100 subs in the middle of the superdome and all it does it ECHO. like crazy.... to ebay it's going. Unless I can get it dialed in with the f12 as a decent buttkicker, but it echoes so bad you can hear the difference when both the psw111 and f12 are running at same time.
post #17135 of 35126
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post


and for that psw111, HAH. that thing sounds like a joke. .

Now you know what the "average" polk sub sounds like biggrin.gif

As for your Bic, I don't remember what the inputs are on the back. On my epics, you have two choices, LFE and CROSSOVER. I just use LFE, set the gain between 1/3 and 1/2 and let Auddessy set the trim. I usually get it around -2. I think you want to have your sub(s) between -3 and +3.

Also, in my receiver, I put the sub setting to 120hz, the mains and center are set to 40hz. This creates a very nice transitional blend between the speakers and sub.

As far as your sub placement, yeah, it sounds like you're pretty much either A or B. Heck, just try 'em both and see what you like best, but you know, try each location out for at least a week or two weeks of listening so you get a good feel on the sound.

Congrats again man, killer set up!!!! You and Stanley, playing with the new toys..........jealous
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And speaking of Stanley............cool.gif Very nice! Your Emo has made a great contribution to your gear rack and that sub.....wow man, it seems like only "days" ago you were bitch*n about which way to go....sub or amp, sub or amp and now, you are once again a shot caller biggrin.gif

I'm just a stones throw away, I live up the street from Point Defiance. You tell me what brand of cold ones you like and I'll make it happen.
post #17137 of 35126
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Originally Posted by tylerh View Post

I meant metric and english not metric and hex

Hey Tyler, I use English 9/64 on my A9 drivers. I bounced back between that and the 3mm which was just way to loose. The 9/64 is the ticket, a tad bit snug so be careful to get a solid fit before turning the wrench.
post #17138 of 35126
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

And speaking of Stanley............cool.gif Very nice! Your Emo has made a great contribution to your gear rack and that sub.....wow man, it seems like only "days" ago you were bitch*n about which way to go....sub or amp, sub or amp and now, you are once again a shot caller biggrin.gif

I'm just a stones throw away, I live up the street from Point Defiance. You tell me what brand of cold ones you like and I'll make it happen.

I'm a cheap beer drinker. Rainier. It's been years since I've been to Point Defiance. The zoo there isn't very big compared to the one in Seattle but I like it better. That's a nice area where you live. I live in West Seattle not far from Alki beach.

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Tried again to tune the sub correctly within audyessey last night. baby was asleep so I couldn't crank it to loud, but following the guide of turning down the gain on the sub to get audyessey to report +/-3b on the sub trim still makes sub very low sounding. the gain on the sub is actually 2.5 out of 10 to get audyessey to report -3db. I had to turn the trim up on the avr for the sub just to 0db to really hear it. It sounds good but I feel like I want more bass and boom. any tips?

also audyessey sets all my monitors to fullband, but I changed l/c/r to 80hz and rears to 120hz. does that sound about right? or should my 75ts be at 60hz? and rears be lower than 120hz?

any suggestions?
post #17140 of 35126
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

Tried again to tune the sub correctly within audyessey last night. baby was asleep so I couldn't crank it to loud, but following the guide of turning down the gain on the sub to get audyessey to report +/-3b on the sub trim still makes sub very low sounding. the gain on the sub is actually 2.5 out of 10 to get audyessey to report -3db. I had to turn the trim up on the avr for the sub just to 0db to really hear it. It sounds good but I feel like I want more bass and boom. any tips?

also audyessey sets all my monitors to fullband, but I changed l/c/r to 80hz and rears to 120hz. does that sound about right? or should my 75ts be at 60hz? and rears be lower than 120hz?

any suggestions?

Suggest you keep your speakers set to small. 80Hz is a good starting point for your mains. You'll just have to play with it till you get what you like. Doing a sub crawl will help if you're able to. You may end up getting a second sub if you want more output. A 2nd sub really makes a difference. I have run my subs around 3db hot which looks like you are doing.


Edited by XStanleyX - 2/22/13 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Suggest you keep your speakers set to small. 80Hz is a good starting point for your mains. You'll just have to play with it till you get what you like. Doing a sub crawl will help if you're able to. You may end up getting a second sub if you want more output. A 2nd sub really makes a difference. I have run my subs around 3db hot which looks like you are doing.

I have that psw111 still as second sub. Haha. But haven't tuned it really yet. It's just so echoey compared to f12
post #17142 of 35126
yeah ive had a hard time with my sub too. The yamaha sets the sub level to -10 and the distance to 20 ft (even though its only 10 ft away)
On the sub, the level is set at -10 already.

Could barely hear the thing and thought i busted it.

Jacked up the level on in the receiver to -1, the level on the sub to -9, and the mode to PUNCH...
and now its back to good ole shake the walls during Inglorious Basterds mode.
post #17143 of 35126
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

Tried again to tune the sub correctly within audyessey last night. baby was asleep so I couldn't crank it to loud, but following the guide of turning down the gain on the sub to get audyessey to report +/-3b on the sub trim still makes sub very low sounding. the gain on the sub is actually 2.5 out of 10 to get audyessey to report -3db. I had to turn the trim up on the avr for the sub just to 0db to really hear it. It sounds good but I feel like I want more bass and boom. any tips?

also audyessey sets all my monitors to fullband, but I changed l/c/r to 80hz and rears to 120hz. does that sound about right? or should my 75ts be at 60hz? and rears be lower than 120hz?

As I recall the F12 needs to be set to about 1/4 to 1/3 of the way up. Also Audyssey only needs to be within +/-12db. Anything between 6-10 is probably good. Trying to hit +/-3db may be difficult, given that the F12 has most of its gain at the lowest settings.

As for your other speakers, 80Hz is a good place to start. You can raise Audyssey's crossover settings for any speaker, but it is generally unwise to lower them below the calibrated settings. I ran the M60's at 60Hz and preferred that for music, but the M70's handled it better.
post #17144 of 35126
Anyone listen to both of these, or have any feeling about which would sound better?

Two Polk 75T's and a center 25C. I can get a pair of the Polk towers and the center for $579.85 delivered to my door.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290272
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290274

Or Ascend CMT-340 SE and a pair of CMB-170 SE. Cost: $568

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cbm170/cbm170.html
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340c/cmt340c.html

Thanks!
post #17145 of 35126
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

I'm a cheap beer drinker. Rainier. It's been years since I've been to Point Defiance. The zoo there isn't very big compared to the one in Seattle but I like it better. That's a nice area where you live. I live in West Seattle not far from Alki beach.

Alki, my favorite thing about Seattle. Being an old tamed down redneck from Texas, I can't stand Seattle...driving in and out of it is the worst. It's a whole 'nother world to me...it's beautiful but I get "itchy" real quick.

Rainier beer, I think I actually shed a tear then the brewery left. The motorcycle beer, drank a ton of that when I was stationed at McHORD AFB just because of that comercial.

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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

also audyessey sets all my monitors to fullband, but I changed l/c/r to 80hz and rears to 120hz. does that sound about right? or should my 75ts be at 60hz? and rears be lower than 120hz?

any suggestions?

My guess is Auddessy set them to large because it's not getting what it needs from the sub, check what RobLee has to say on your sub and if you're still struggling, call the company for a recommendation.
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post


I have that psw111 still as second sub. Haha. But haven't tuned it really yet. It's just so echoey compared to f12

 

Gonna be real tough to get those two to mate very well. Big difference between the two. When the F12 hits a lower Hz the 111 will probably sound like a bad fart. I'd personally sell the 111 and save for another F12.

A 2nd identical sub will really make a nice difference. If you want to hear what your sub can do try some music by Bass Mekanik. Most of their stuff gets pretty low.

 

Check out the Audyssey thread. There's a lot of info in there and one section on subwoofers and bass.

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750#post_21782993


Edited by XStanleyX - 2/22/13 at 12:11pm
post #17147 of 35126
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post


My guess is Auddessy set them to large because it's not getting what it needs from the sub, check what RobLee has to say on your sub and if you're still struggling, call the company for a recommendation.

it sets them to large even if I blare the sub with gain all the way up or unplug it. no getting around it. then I just change them all to small
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Gonna be real tough to get those two to mate very well. Big difference between the two. When the F12 hits a lower Hz the 111 will probably sound like a bad fart. I'd personally sell the 111 and save for another F12.
A 2nd identical sub will really make a nice difference. If you want to hear what your sub can do try some music by Bass Mekanik. Most of their stuff gets pretty low.

Check out the Audyssey thread. There's a lot of info in there and one section on subwoofers and bass.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750#post_21782993

yeah I think the psw111 is simply going to have to go. even trying to make it a buttkicker behind the couch, the echoing is just horrific. dual f12s would be sweet.

hoping to do a serious sub crawl tonight or this weekend, given how the baby has been sleeping/where he is sleeping.

Also checked that thread up and down. I think I got the f12 tuned right with it at 2.5 on the gain and now adjusting the db inside the avr. just need a good sub crawl and more tweaking to +/- db for the sub in the avr and I should get it perfect.
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post


it sets them to large even if I blare the sub with gain all the way up or unplug it. no getting around it. then I just change them all to small
yeah I think the psw111 is simply going to have to go. even trying to make it a buttkicker behind the couch, the echoing is just horrific. dual f12s would be sweet.

hoping to do a serious sub crawl tonight or this weekend, given how the baby has been sleeping/where he is sleeping.

Also checked that thread up and down. I think I got the f12 tuned right with it at 2.5 on the gain and now adjusting the db inside the avr. just need a good sub crawl and more tweaking to +/- db for the sub in the avr and I should get it perfect.

 

Yep, you're on the right track. Once you get the sub in the right place you'll get as much as you're able to out of that sub. For the echoing try setting the phase on the 111 to 180 if the Bic is at 0.

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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

it sets them to large even if I blare the sub with gain all the way up or unplug it. no getting around it. then I just change them all to small

Generally Audyssey will set most larger speakers to full range (LARGE). After running setup, you have to manually change them all to small, then tweak the xover freq to your liking. Sorry that was not clear.
post #17150 of 35126
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

I'd personally sell the 111 and save for another F12.
A 2nd identical sub will really make a nice difference.

My wife, who hates (despises?) the sub action I love so much in my movies, thought I was kidding when I told her I was ordering a 2nd Empire. When it showed up at our door, she looked at me like I had completely lost my mind and then gave her my best personal insult, yeah, it was that kind of look.

After I set them up and ran through a couple of demo tests, the bass response had improved so much, my wife not only "respects" my subs, she actually is starting to like them a bit.
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

it sets them to large even if I blare the sub with gain all the way up or unplug it. no getting around it. then I just change them all to small
yeah I think the psw111 is simply going to have to go. even trying to make it a buttkicker behind the couch, the echoing is just horrific. dual f12s would be sweet.

Whether I was running one sub or two, my AVR would set my L/C/R to 40hz, even my wides would get set to 40hz and my surrounds were at 60 sometimes 70hz. And that was with or without the amps.

Like Stanley said, another F12 would make a nice difference. The more subs you have, the more even the bass response is.
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Fry's has RTi8 for $334 a pair this week if anyone's interested.
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Originally Posted by kevinmscs View Post

Fry's has RTi8 for $334 a pair this week if anyone's interested.

+$54 shipping for me...

How do those compare to the 75T's?
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Hi - New to the Polk club here. Just picked up the RTi8's and RTi4's at Fry's. Spent a lot there lately it seems. Anyway, adding on to my house with a media room, so I started with a Denon AVR-1913, went with some other seakers first (Infinity), but was on Fry's site one day and they had a Polk CS20 for $39.99 so I took a chance andthey say it has shipped, so will see. That being said I went back and was going to do RTi6's and RTI4's, but ended up getting the RTi8's and will use the RTi4's for the rear. Looking forward to this system, my old system is 12 years old and just a Sony receiver and 2 JBL bookshelfs.
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Originally Posted by slaminsam View Post

Hi - New to the Polk club here. Just picked up the RTi8's and RTi4's at Fry's. Spent a lot there lately it seems. Anyway, adding on to my house with a media room, so I started with a Denon AVR-1913, went with some other seakers first (Infinity), but was on Fry's site one day and they had a Polk CS20 for $39.99 so I took a chance andthey say it has shipped, so will see. That being said I went back and was going to do RTi6's and RTI4's, but ended up getting the RTi8's and will use the RTi4's for the rear. Looking forward to this system, my old system is 12 years old and just a Sony receiver and 2 JBL bookshelfs.

Welcome to the group. Let us know your impressions of them. smile.gif

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The CSi5 is only $189.99. No shipping only store pick up darn it.

http://www.frys.com/product/6895146
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Polk Audio New Monitor 75T Four-Way Ported Floorstanding Loudspeaker (Cherry) Each at $209.95 probably the cheapest I've seen.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290279
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Originally Posted by kevinmscs View Post

Fry's has RTi8 for $334 a pair this week if anyone's interested.

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+$54 shipping for me...

How do those compare to the 75T's?

I'd take Rti's over any Monitors any day. Anyone here who has owned both would probably agree. No brainer.
post #17158 of 35126
ALL right. I got this baby dialed in right!

f12 sounds really clean and really good. Played a concert in blu ray last night and it sounded excellent and I played The Dark Knight and OHH man. Love that movie.

Well to sum it up especially compared to my old onkyo htib speakers....mind=blown

Absolutely loving the 75t, 45b, 25c, and the f12. I just wish I could blare it! but baby has ears mad.gif

for spending under $800 for all those speakers in including a sub plus a 2nd free sub (which is gonna get sold. psw111 for sell! anyone? cool.gif) for a full 5.1 replacement.... I'm pretty happy.
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

ALL right. I got this baby dialed in right!

f12 sounds really clean and really good. Played a concert in blu ray last night and it sounded excellent and I played The Dark Knight and OHH man. Love that movie.

Well to sum it up especially compared to my old onkyo htib speakers....mind=blown

Absolutely loving the 75t, 45b, 25c, and the f12. I just wish I could blare it! but baby has ears mad.gif

for spending under $800 for all those speakers in including a sub plus a 2nd free sub (which is gonna get sold. psw111 for sell! anyone? cool.gif) for a full 5.1 replacement.... I'm pretty happy.
now..that's a bagan..... money well spent..... cant get much better than that...for the lot..
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

ALL right. I got this baby dialed in right!

 

Nice to see you got things dialed in and I hope you get a good price for that 111. smile.gif

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