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Passive bi-amping doesn't do anything!
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Passive bi-amping doesn't do anything!

I'm in no way, shape or form an expert on the topic...and I've seen plenty of people say that exact same thing...but I've also seen a few people say that it did help with the clarity. All in their heads? Perhaps. But I've got spare cable laying around and plenty of free time. Figured it can't hurt to try.

Also, for curiosity's sake (and to play devil's advocate somewhat), why would Pioneer put the ability to do so in their receiver if it didn't make a difference?
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Originally Posted by U2Edge View Post


I'm in no way, shape or form an expert on the topic...and I've seen plenty of people say that exact same thing...but I've also seen a few people say that it did help with the clarity. All in their heads? Perhaps. But I've got spare cable laying around and plenty of free time. Figured it can't hurt to try.

Also, for curiosity's sake (and to play devil's advocate somewhat), why would Pioneer put the ability to do so in their receiver if it didn't make a difference?

 

It helps to sell receivers. If the competition adds it they're going to add it too. If you can hear an improvement, even if it's a placebo effect, take it. I don't argue with people who say they can hear an improvement. If they can, good for them.


Edited by XStanleyX - 3/12/13 at 2:17pm
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After doing a demo mode with movies like War of the Worlds, Breaking Dawn #2 (don't hate), & Looper I had trouble hearing my Monitor 30's over my kids computer in the dining room. The computer speakers are small but right in the next room no more than 8 feet from my couch. The M30's are about 12 feet from my listening position so I was constantly adjusting their volume as the movies were playing. I wasn't getting that commanding volume level I wanted to drown out the other noises

My living room is laid out weird, I know I was against getting floor standers but if I can maneuver a speaker in front of my fireplae where noone would go then that would be possible. I'm just afraid of someone knocking it over by accident.

I see these are right up my alley but don't know how they would compare to a good set of bookshelhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-Monitor-50-BLACK-Tower-Speakers-Polk-Audio-/360587744004?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item53f4b45304fs. I would go up to $300 max for another set but if I can spend less I would.

Any thoughts?
post #17465 of 35083
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

It helps to sell receivers. If the competition adds it they're going to add it too.

But that begs the question -- why would any "competition" add it in the first place if it doesn't do anything?

Again, not arguing -- just trying to figure out why ANY respectable/knowledgeable receiver manufacturer would design it/add it if it was a worthless feature. Somebody had to start the trend -- so unless a manufacturer just added a "fluff feature" that was actually useless/had minimal to no effect and then the rest of the manufacturers were all but "forced" to add it to keep up with the Joneses, I'm not sure why it'd be added in the first place.
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Originally Posted by U2Edge View Post


But that begs the question -- why would any "competition" add it in the first place if it doesn't do anything?

Again, not arguing -- just trying to figure out why ANY respectable/knowledgeable receiver manufacturer would design it/add it if it was a worthless feature. Somebody had to start the trend -- so unless a manufacturer just added a "fluff feature" that was actually useless/had minimal to no effect and then the rest of the manufacturers were all but "forced" to add it to keep up with the Joneses, I'm not sure why it'd be added in the first place.

 

Like I said. It sells. This has been argued to death in the forums. I don't get into those threads cause it's just fruitless. All I can say is I can't hear an improvement bi-amping off a receiver. You may or may not agree after trying it.

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Originally Posted by bumprunlogan View Post

After doing a demo mode with movies like War of the Worlds, Breaking Dawn #2 (don't hate), & Looper I had trouble hearing my Monitor 30's over my kids computer in the dining room. The computer speakers are small but right in the next room no more than 8 feet from my couch. The M30's are about 12 feet from my listening position so I was constantly adjusting their volume as the movies were playing. I wasn't getting that commanding volume level I wanted to drown out the other noises

My living room is laid out weird, I know I was against getting floor standers but if I can maneuver a speaker in front of my fireplae where noone would go then that would be possible. I'm just afraid of someone knocking it over by accident.

I see these are right up my alley but don't know how they would compare to a good set of bookshelhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-Monitor-50-BLACK-Tower-Speakers-Polk-Audio-/360587744004?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item53f4b45304fs. I would go up to $300 max for another set but if I can spend less I would.

Any thoughts?

 

I would save up the coin and get into the RTi line. Yeah I know, money money money.

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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

I would save up the coin and get into the RTi line. Yeah I know, money money money.

A big, HUGE, +1 on that one. M50's were my first Polk purchase... they're under a tarp in the basement. If I had known how much difference there was between Monitors and Rti's I would have skipped buying into Monitors altogether.
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Like I said. It sells. This has been argued to death in the forums. I don't get into those threads cause it's just fruitless. All I can say is I can't hear an improvement bi-amping off a receiver. You may or may not agree after trying it.

Can you still hear above 1KHz Stanley... LOL Just kidding brother. Had to do it.

I tried it on my Onkyo NR-3009 with super power hungry RTiA9 speakers and heard absolutely no diff either. The XPA-2 makes them sing. The XPR-2 will make them scream! tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post


Can you still hear above 1KHz Stanley... LOL Just kidding brother. Had to do it.

I tried it on my Onkyo NR-3009 with super power hungry RTiA9 speakers and heard absolutely no diff either. The XPA-2 makes them sing. The XPR-2 will make them scream! tongue.gif

 

I can hardly hear myself phart. It would be nice to have a warning signal. 

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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

Can you still hear above 1KHz Stanley... LOL Just kidding brother. Had to do it.

I tried it on my Onkyo NR-3009 with super power hungry RTiA9 speakers and heard absolutely no diff either. The XPA-2 makes them sing. The XPR-2 will make them scream! tongue.gif

Or, you can drive the RTi A9's using two XPA-2's running on bridge mode (mono-blocks).........biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

A big, HUGE, +1 on that one. M50's were my first Polk purchase... they're under a tarp in the basement. If I had known how much difference there was between Monitors and Rti's I would have skipped buying into Monitors altogether.

Ok fellas thanks for the info didnt know the monitors were so low on the totem pole. Time to ungrade already what a shame i have to buy new speakers and give the wife the excuse of me getting the wrong speakers. So far she hasnt found out about the price of the Rw-12d yet so $300 Rti's arent going to matter.
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Here's some photos of the LSiM703's from the get go. I'll post my thoughts on the sound after they break in. There are small marks on the cabinets but are on the bottom of the cabinet so no biggie. The rest of both cabinets look perfect. I thought the box could have been thicker or double boxed considering how FedEx can sometime torture them. One box had extra cardboard on two side of one box and the other had none. Luckily FedEx didn't treat them too badly. Miracles do happen. Sorry for my crappy camera. Not the greatest for indoor pics. I posted one pic with the LSiM703 next to the LSi15 so you can see the difference in size. Of course you can click on the pic for a better view.

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by XStanleyX - 3/12/13 at 5:25pm
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Congrats on the new speaks !! I can't wait to "hear", What you have to say about their sound! Enjoy, & thanks for the Pics!!
Us older Folks we need the Pics!!
post #17475 of 35083
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Here's some photos of the LSiM703's from the get go. I'll post my thoughts on the sound

Looking forward to your impressions after you break them in. So I can be jealous, even though my bargain purchase used RT800i's and RT600's are worlds better than the HTIB satellites I've been using.

I finally rearranged the shelves in my TV console and wired up the CS400. Watched the first 20 min of Master and Commander tonight before I went out for dinner. Even with the not ideal, off-center location of the center speaker, WOW!!!
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Or, you can drive the RTi A9's using two XPA-2's running on bridge mode (mono-blocks).........biggrin.gif

You have no idea how much I contemplated it.... eek.gif
post #17477 of 35083
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Originally Posted by U2Edge View Post

I'm in no way, shape or form an expert on the topic...and I've seen plenty of people say that exact same thing...but I've also seen a few people say that it did help with the clarity. All in their heads? Perhaps. But I've got spare cable laying around and plenty of free time. Figured it can't hurt to try.

Also, for curiosity's sake (and to play devil's advocate somewhat), why would Pioneer put the ability to do so in their receiver if it didn't make a difference?

Always best to try it yourself so you know. I tried it with high expectations and tried to hear a difference. Like Climber said, the XPA-2 made the difference on my system, and that was over the XPA-3 (300wpc over 200wpc).

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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Here's some photos of the LSiM703's from the get go. I'll post my thoughts on the sound after they break in. There are small marks on the cabinets but are on the bottom of the cabinet so no biggie. The rest of both cabinets look perfect. I thought the box could have been thicker or double boxed considering how FedEx can sometime torture them. One box had extra cardboard on two side of one box and the other had none. Luckily FedEx didn't treat them too badly. Miracles do happen. Sorry for my crappy camera. Not the greatest for indoor pics. I posted one pic with the LSiM703 next to the LSi15 so you can see the difference in size. Of course you can click on the pic for a better view.

I love the looks of those bad boys. For sure, do tell how well they play with your emotive.
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One thing is for sure, you definitely need a sub with the 703's. No surprise there. I ran them without the sub for about an hour last night just to hear them by themselves. What a transparent speaker. Very detailed and accurate.

I watched a movie last night and they were great. More thoughts later. I get to go in with my son to work today. Oh goody. Hope I survive.

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Definitely prefer the appearance of the 703 to the LSI-9 (top of the 15). You choose the cherry finish, how does that look in person ? I had the mahogany when I had the 9's, but then again I always preferred black or the darkest look available.
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Here's some photos of the LSiM703's from the get go. I'll post my thoughts on the sound after they break in. There are small marks on the cabinets but are on the bottom of the cabinet so no biggie. The rest of both cabinets look perfect. I thought the box could have been thicker or double boxed considering how FedEx can sometime torture them. One box had extra cardboard on two side of one box and the other had none. Luckily FedEx didn't treat them too badly. Miracles do happen. Sorry for my crappy camera. Not the greatest for indoor pics. I posted one pic with the LSiM703 next to the LSi15 so you can see the difference in size. Of course you can click on the pic for a better view.

Have a pair of speakers coming via Fex ex tomorrow and hope for the best. Still can't figure out how my HSU sub ended up delivered and initialed to the corner house. Couldn't even get any kind of an explanation when I attempted to talk with someone...anyone in a position of authority. I have always had a better experience all around with UPS... though the guy who filled in for the our regular delivery guy left my c375bee on the front porch and didn't ring the bell. I don't like $1000 in gear just sitting in the open like that.
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I have a question about the TSi300s (or just floorstanders in general). Isn't 36 inches a bit low?
I remember reading that floorstanders are designed keeping in mind that the tweets should be ear level for the average person.

The bottom of my ears are about 38" from the floor sitting in a 16" high chair. So forget the tweeters, I'll be even higher than the top of the speaker.
Am I going to have to prop them up or am I missing something? The speakers aren't actually here yet for me to experiment with.
Edited by artondrius - 3/13/13 at 10:48am
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You'll be fine. Don't sweat details like how many inches your ears are off the floor.
What matters is how it SOUNDS... but be prepared to move a few things around.
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System all set up in the new house. The room isn't ideal, but has pretty good acoustics (surprisingly). Being on the second floor, I was worried about the floor shaking with the bass. Turns out it's not boomy at all. Had to mount the surrounds on the back wall. Not what I wanted to do at all. They sound good there though. Next step is to get a custom Salamander Designs TV stand and mount the TV on the wall. Then the center can go right below it where it belongs... cool.gif








Also got the office set up. My wife wants me to put up a "Man Cave" sign... LOL biggrin.gif





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Originally Posted by King5six1 View Post

Hello everyone ! This is my first build that was not a HTIB setup. I cant wait until the center and rears get here this week. But for my first setup I went with the Monitor 65T for the fronts ($139.95 each) Monitor 35B for rears ($99.95/ Pair) 15C for the center channel ($79.95) and the PSW-505 ($170.99) for the sub. I picked up a Denon AVR 1613 for $199 on sale a few weeks back as well. Did I do good for my first setup ? I think I got relatively good deals on the speakers. I kept waiting for sales.Does anyone else have the same speaker/receiver combo and can provide feedback on how it sounds ?

These forums have been a huge help over the last few weeks. Now I just have to tackle the wiring.
wouldn't pay 140 for the 65t knowing that each iteration before they were 200 a pair or close to it. Considering I have seen the 70 and 70 IIs at 300 pair and I know they'll be there soon I'd have waited or went with a different brand if I was purchasing at this time.
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

You'll be fine. Don't sweat details like how many inches your ears are off the floor.
What matters is how it SOUNDS... but be prepared to move a few things around.

Well, I've been told ear level tweeters is one of the most crucial parts of placement, not just a small detail. But yeah I'll have to see how it goes when it gets here.
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Finally decided to bite the bullet and join the polk club. After having a Vizio sound bar for the last year, I was starting to get very discouraged with the sound being produced.
So after reading these forums for several weeks and learning a good bit of information, I bought a few things.

I bought a Denon 1913 receiver
2 Polk 65T Tower speakers for my front left and right
1 Polk 25C center speaker
and a PSW110 Subwoofer

All I can say is WOW. I knew I was missing a lot on sound, but I did not realize how much until after I got this hooked up. In a few months I will buy 2 rear speakers but for right now I am amazed at the sound difference between this and my old Vizio sound bar.

Any recommendations for the 2 rear speakers so I can start watching for sales on them. I would prefer bookshelf speaker so I can mount them on a shelf behind the couch.
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Originally Posted by burntreality View Post

Finally decided to bite the bullet and join the polk club. After having a Vizio sound bar for the last year, I was starting to get very discouraged with the sound being produced.
So after reading these forums for several weeks and learning a good bit of information, I bought a few things.

I bought a Denon 1913 receiver
2 Polk 65T Tower speakers for my front left and right
1 Polk 25C center speaker
and a PSW110 Subwoofer

All I can say is WOW. I knew I was missing a lot on sound, but I did not realize how much until after I got this hooked up. In a few months I will buy 2 rear speakers but for right now I am amazed at the sound difference between this and my old Vizio sound bar.

Any recommendations for the 2 rear speakers so I can start watching for sales on them. I would prefer bookshelf speaker so I can mount them on a shelf behind the couch.

Hello, I am pretty new as well. I went with a similar setup except the 15C for the center and the PSW505 for the sub. But from what I gathered on the forums I went with the Monitor 35B's for rears. They were the matching speakers for the rest of the line. I would say go with those. You can usually get them around 100$ for the pair on Newegg if you keep checking the site. (They are currently at $149.95).

I am just looking for good speaker stands now as I dont want to mount them to the wall. Does anyone have any suggestions on good stands. I don't want anything terribly expensive. Just black stands that will hold the 35C.
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

System all set up in the new house. The room isn't ideal, but has pretty good acoustics (surprisingly). Being on the second floor, I was worried about the floor shaking with the bass. Turns out it's not boomy at all. Had to mount the surrounds on the back wall. Not what I wanted to do at all. They sound good there though. Next step is to get a custom Salamander Designs TV stand and mount the TV on the wall. Then the center can go right below it where it belongs... cool.gif



Aight I gotta bust your chops just a little bit. A 100+ CD changer man? Seriously wink.gif. You dont have all your CD's in FLAC so you can stream them to every room in your house eek.gif....


But in all seriousness its a VERY nice setup. Even with your speakers on the back wall (which that is one of the mounting options for 5.1 BTW) it all looks good.

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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

Also got the office set up. My wife wants me to put up a "Man Cave" sign... LOL biggrin.gif

You know where I got the one for my "Man Cave" lol.. Hobby Lobby!!!

Good lord thats a lot of LED color in that computer... too much for this minimalist cool.gif.
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

Aight I gotta bust your chops just a little bit. A 100+ CD changer man? Seriously wink.gif. You dont have all your CD's in FLAC so you can stream them to every room in your house eek.gif....


But in all seriousness its a VERY nice setup. Even with your speakers on the back wall (which that is one of the mounting options for 5.1 BTW) it all looks good.
You know where I got the one for my "Man Cave" lol.. Hobby Lobby!!!

Good lord thats a lot of LED color in that computer... too much for this minimalist cool.gif.

Hobby Lobby is where we were yesterday when she picked up the sign. I resisted... biggrin.gif

BUST MY CHOPS WILL YA. THAT'S A 400 DISC "DVD" PLAYER BROTHER................... rolleyes.gif All my music is either 320 kbps mp3 or FLAC!!!

Got a 2TB drive in the cabinet hooked to my WDTV Live media player. I hope to convert all of my movies to HDD soon. 24 TB NAS is what I'm thinking... Kinda $$$$$$$$$$$$ though. eek.gif



BTW. The computer lights up the whole room... LOL
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

BUST MY CHOPS WILL YA. THAT'S A 400 DISC "DVD" PLAYER BROTHER................... rolleyes.gif All my music is either 320 kbps mp3 or FLAC!!!

Got a 2TB drive in the cabinet hooked to my WDTV Live media player. I hope to convert all of my movies to HDD soon. 24 TB NAS is what I'm thinking... Kinda $$$$$$$$$$$$ though. eek.gif

Well I would still harass you about having physical media of any kind (besides LP's eek.gif). But....I will leave you alone after seeing the part about going digital with your movies biggrin.gif. I suggest using MakeMKV to get them to your hard drive and then possibly using handbrake to compress them.
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BTW. The computer lights up the whole room... LOL

Yeah I was like that at one time. Then I moved to a Antec P182 with Noctua fans on a fan controller and I got quiet and super efficient. Its not flashy but my wife likes it better eek.gif. And we all know what that means lol.

I too am looking at building a mini ITX AMD FM2 server but nothing that big.

Look at the Norco case on Newegg. Its 2U and a very good price with more than enough space for ya.
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