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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

... there is no replacement for displacement. That being said the DSW 660 was a great deal for 300.00.

I think I paid around $350 for mine about a year ago using a 40% off coupon from NewEgg, and to be honest don't use it much. It seemed to be the best sub in the Polk lineup and I went purely on its size and reputation. I know ID is supposed to give more bang for the buck, but I didn't even know where to start with little known brands that seem to pop up and disappear overnight.
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That is what I heard too, but I like the way it looks and I think having 2 of those would be pretty decent. Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio View Post

Living in a condo you may need to consider the 705 instead of the 707. The 707 is huge and it needs a lot power and room around it to play at its best.

Thank you for the heads up. The set up that I have is definitely overkill but I think it will can also be put to good use once I move to a house. Also, the 707 weren't that much more expensive than the 705.
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Originally Posted by SupaKats View Post

Agree there are much better sub choices from those three as well as SVS and Outlaw

That is what I heard too, but I like the way it looks and I think having 2 of those would be pretty decent. Thanks for the info though.
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

I was wondering about those two speakers. They are 88 dB sensitivity, but handle less power. Makes sense that they would require a little more to get going though. Thanks for the heads up. cool.gif

I think I'll wait and see how they sound when everything is set up. I'll add an amp or two if need be :-). At this point, I'm debating between a nice surge protector and a power conditioner. I've listened to music and movies with conditioners before and swear that I can't tell the difference. Price isn't much of an issue, just the thought of those companies making good money off of people for no apparent benefit is probably the only reason I would vote against it. But I'm not an engineer, what do I know.
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

I think I paid around $350 for mine about a year ago using a 40% off coupon from NewEgg, and to be honest don't use it much. It seemed to be the best sub in the Polk lineup and I went purely on its size and reputation. I know ID is supposed to give more bang for the buck, but I didn't even know where to start with little known brands that seem to pop up and disappear overnight.

SVS and HSU have been around for 15yrs...PSA owner Tom V. was the V in SVS and I believe his new sub company is here to stay. I have owned several polk subs and they are great until you experience something that digs into the infrasonic range yet handles the entire FR with accuracy. Like I previously said for 300 dollars the dsw 660 is a great price.

Here is the difference...I have had several polk subs, psw10, psw505, psw650, psw110, and a paradigm pdr10. All of these subs added boom to my system, but when I listened to music I preferred turning off the subs off and Let the A7's do thier thing. They sounded so much cleaner and articulate without the psw subs.

I now have 3 XV15's and they are +/-4db from 15-80hz with no eq. I now have 126-128db of clean even bass on tap thru the entire room and 130 at the main LP. Now when I turn off my subs my A7's sound anemic and lifeless...I quickly learned that there is something to be said about buying a quality sub. The XV15's compliment and add to the A7's where all the Polk subs made things sound boomy and did not offere much deeper extension then the A7's.

I am not saying Polk subs are bad its just ignorance is bliss...you do not know what you are missing until you make the jump. If you are happy with your sub thats great, but I am betting there is a reason why you do not use it that much. I was the same way.
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Hey guys, I'm selling my RTi A system: pair of RTi A9s, CSI A6 center and pair of RTi A3s. All speakers in Cherry. The A9s are still under warranty for 3 more years. I'm including a set of Sanus NF36 in Cherry for the A3s. PM for price, but it's a really good deal. Local pick up only, please (Houston, TX)
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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio View Post

Hey guys, I'm selling my RTi A system: pair of RTi A9s, CSI A6 center and pair of RTi A3s. All speakers in Cherry. The A9s are still under warranty for 3 more years. I'm including a set of Sanus NF36 in Cherry for the A3s. PM for price, but it's a really good deal. Local pick up only, please (Houston, TX)

 

I hope speakers are selling better in your area than mine. You have to damn near give them away here. Good thing I'm not hard up for money. Hope you sell them soon Enrico.

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Originally Posted by ERinDFW View Post

I've listened to music and movies with conditioners before and swear that I can't tell the difference. Price isn't much of an issue, just the thought of those companies making good money off of people for no apparent benefit is probably the only reason I would vote against it. But I'm not an engineer, what do I know.

I work in electronics and can tell you for certain that unless you have dirty power (e.g. generator fluctuations or poor local power quality) or are prone to brownouts, a power conditioner won't make any difference. Surge protection and ground isolation are critical. If you're in for a ride, go over to the audio theory forum and ask about power conditioning. It's more of a peace of mind than anything. A power conditioner will not improve the quality of a song played by an AVR through an amp unless your house power fluctuates a LOT!
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

SVS and HSU have been around for 15yrs...PSA owner Tom V. was the V in SVS and I believe his new sub company is here to stay. I have owned several polk subs and they are great until you experience something that digs into the infrasonic range yet handles the entire FR with accuracy. Like I previously said for 300 dollars the dsw 660 is a great price.

Here is the difference...I have had several polk subs, psw10, psw505, psw650, psw110, and a paradigm pdr10. All of these subs added boom to my system, but when I listened to music I preferred turning off the subs off and Let the A7's do thier thing. They sounded so much cleaner and articulate without the psw subs.

I now have 3 XV15's and they are +/-4db from 15-80hz with no eq. I now have 126-128db of clean even bass on tap thru the entire room and 130 at the main LP. Now when I turn off my subs my A7's sound anemic and lifeless...I quickly learned that there is something to be said about buying a quality sub. The XV15's compliment and add to the A7's where all the Polk subs made things sound boomy and did not offere much deeper extension then the A7's.

I am not saying Polk subs are bad its just ignorance is bliss...you do not know what you are missing until you make the jump. If you are happy with your sub thats great, but I am betting there is a reason why you do not use it that much. I was the same way.

I'm sure that SVS is a good company and sells quality products, but I would not know which of the various companies to choose from, nor which product from their lines. Reading various threads here on AVS everyone recommends different models and they are mostly $1000 or so, and if I don't like it I have to send it back (and yes I know some pay for that but it is still a hassle).

I use twin Klipsch Sub12's for HT in the living room and the Polk 660 is in the bedroom where we mostly listen to music at low volume using a pair of Lsi9's... at such low volume that usually the sub doesn't even kick in.
No doubt there are better subs than the Polk or the Klipsch's, but at least I know both of those names. At my age a few db doesn't make that much difference.
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

I work in electronics and can tell you for certain that unless you have dirty power (e.g. generator fluctuations or poor local power quality) or are prone to brownouts, a power conditioner won't make any difference. Surge protection and ground isolation are critical. If you're in for a ride, go over to the audio theory forum and ask about power conditioning. It's more of a peace of mind than anything. A power conditioner will not improve the quality of a song played by an AVR through an amp unless your house power fluctuates a LOT!

I'll add that having a UPS with AVR - (automatic voltage regulation) is a plus whenever you have devices in your HT with hard drives. Power conditioners are pretty to look at.
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

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Originally Posted by ERinDFW View Post

I've listened to music and movies with conditioners before and swear that I can't tell the difference. Price isn't much of an issue, just the thought of those companies making good money off of people for no apparent benefit is probably the only reason I would vote against it. But I'm not an engineer, what do I know.

I work in electronics and can tell you for certain that unless you have dirty power (e.g. generator fluctuations or poor local power quality) or are prone to brownouts, a power conditioner won't make any difference. Surge protection and ground isolation are critical. If you're in for a ride, go over to the audio theory forum and ask about power conditioning. It's more of a peace of mind than anything. A power conditioner will not improve the quality of a song played by an AVR through an amp unless your house power fluctuates a LOT!

+1.

Good audio gear is designed to handle a wide range of variations in power without audible consequences.
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Originally Posted by arnyk View Post

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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

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Originally Posted by ERinDFW View Post

I've listened to music and movies with conditioners before and swear that I can't tell the difference. Price isn't much of an issue, just the thought of those companies making good money off of people for no apparent benefit is probably the only reason I would vote against it. But I'm not an engineer, what do I know.

I work in electronics and can tell you for certain that unless you have dirty power (e.g. generator fluctuations or poor local power quality) or are prone to brownouts, a power conditioner won't make any difference. Surge protection and ground isolation are critical. If you're in for a ride, go over to the audio theory forum and ask about power conditioning. It's more of a peace of mind than anything. A power conditioner will not improve the quality of a song played by an AVR through an amp unless your house power fluctuates a LOT!

+1.

Good audio gear is designed to handle a wide range of variations in power without audible consequences.
+2!

Conditioners are just more snake oil. If you really do need onw then you really need to figure out what is causing your crappy power in the first place.

UPS and surge protection can be benificial in protecting your gear in the event of power failure, and should be sonically transparent. This is where you should spend money.
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

+2!

Conditioners are just more snake oil. If you really do need onw then you really need to figure out what is causing your crappy power in the first place.

UPS and surge protection can be benificial in protecting your gear in the event of power failure, and should be sonically transparent. This is where you should spend money.
The next thing you'll be telling us that a thousand dollar power cord replacement is just snake oil.
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Originally Posted by PretzelFisch View Post

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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

+2!

Conditioners are just more snake oil. If you really do need onw then you really need to figure out what is causing your crappy power in the first place.

UPS and surge protection can be benificial in protecting your gear in the event of power failure, and should be sonically transparent. This is where you should spend money.
The next thing you'll be telling us that a thousand dollar power cord replacement is just snake oil.
Well.....yeah! wink.gif
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Yeah the $1,000 power cord is bogus.. the $700 power conditioner bogus .. but this http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-NRG-WEL-Signature-Series/dp/B0055OM9WS/ref=sr_1_76?ie=UTF8&qid=1377533470&sr=8-76&keywords=audioquest .. this is what you need .. not only will you hear music better .. but you will actually be able to hear the secrets of the universe being unraveled ....
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Originally Posted by xFreshEntrailsX View Post

Yeah the $1,000 power cord is bogus.. the $700 power conditioner bogus .. but this http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-NRG-WEL-Signature-Series/dp/B0055OM9WS/ref=sr_1_76?ie=UTF8&qid=1377533470&sr=8-76&keywords=audioquest .. this is what you need .. not only will you hear music better .. but you will actually be able to hear the secrets of the universe being unraveled ....

LMFAO....
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My only comment is this:

I bought a APC H15 power conditioner specifically for its surge protection and also VOLTAGE REGULATION.

I am renting still so I cannot just call an electrician to come fix my power if its not totally out of whack. I also can't pay o have dedicated lines run for my HT gear, I just have to use the lines I have, which may have items on them that can add noise to the system or drops in voltage when they kick on. If you have issues with your voltage a regulator will help ensure your not getting too much, or too little power to your gear which is bad.

So while you may laugh, personally a power conditioner for me is key. Is it the first upgrade I would do, no, there are many more bang for your buck upgrades than this. But if you are in a rural area or rent and have issues with brown outs, or just dirty over or under volted power a good conditioner can make your gear last longer.

Plus a good surge protector with voltage regulation is not really that expensive IMHO
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Originally Posted by xFreshEntrailsX View Post

Yeah the $1,000 power cord is bogus.. the $700 power conditioner bogus .. but this http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-NRG-WEL-Signature-Series/dp/B0055OM9WS/ref=sr_1_76?ie=UTF8&qid=1377533470&sr=8-76&keywords=audioquest .. this is what you need .. not only will you hear music better .. but you will actually be able to hear the secrets of the universe being unraveled ....
Oh snap, I think I made a mistake upgrading speakers. I should have just bought their power cord(1000 is just a joke obviously quality parts require 7k cord), speaker cord, and hdmi.
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Hurry ... only ten left in stock!
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Originally Posted by xFreshEntrailsX View Post

Yeah the $1,000 power cord is bogus.. the $700 power conditioner bogus .. but this http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-NRG-WEL-Signature-Series/dp/B0055OM9WS/ref=sr_1_76?ie=UTF8&qid=1377533470&sr=8-76&keywords=audioquest .. this is what you need .. not only will you hear music better .. but you will actually be able to hear the secrets of the universe being unraveled ....

Strongly recommend that you read the reviewer comments associated with the AudioQuest NRG WEL Signature Series 6 Power Cable on Amazon. Amazingly insightful. I'd almost wanted one to replace the power cord on my toaster, but I've recently gone gluten free. Shame.
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Originally Posted by SupaKats View Post

Do you have a general budget? What is the room size?

In general I would say get a receiver with preouts if in budget incase you ever want an amp. Also I would look at the PB-1000 from SVS or the LV12R from Rymik over two of the 505's.
Budget around $2000 given that everything except my CSiA4 needs to be replaced. Room size is not set in stone because I rent and work in a town I will be moving from shortly.
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

My only comment is this:

I bought a APC H15 power conditioner specifically for its surge protection and also VOLTAGE REGULATION.

I am renting still so I cannot just call an electrician to come fix my power if its not totally out of whack. I also can't pay o have dedicated lines run for my HT gear, I just have to use the lines I have, which may have items on them that can add noise to the system or drops in voltage when they kick on. If you have issues with your voltage a regulator will help ensure your not getting too much, or too little power to your gear which is bad.

So while you may laugh, personally a power conditioner for me is key. Is it the first upgrade I would do, no, there are many more bang for your buck upgrades than this. But if you are in a rural area or rent and have issues with brown outs, or just dirty over or under volted power a good conditioner can make your gear last longer.

Plus a good surge protector with voltage regulation is not really that expensive IMHO

I live in a rural area. Never had any issue with power except in winter when ice broke a power line. When we built our new house I had GFCI outlets put in for my av cabinet. Since I already owned surge protectors I use them also. Components ran into surge protector, surge protector into GFCI. I know it's over kill but I had them so might as well use'em.
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Originally Posted by SteeleJester View Post

Budget around $2000 given that everything except my CSiA4 needs to be replaced. Room size is not set in stone because I rent and work in a town I will be moving from shortly.

I can't find your original post so I don't remember the question asked.

Can you let is know again.

If it is a 5 channel set up and a receiver I would look for a receiver for ~500 with pre outs incase you ever want an amp. Do you want towers or bookshelf speakers for your fronts? If you are only doing bookshelfs you could do 4x RTI A3 or 2x RTI A3 and 2x FXI A6 for 570. Which would leave you up to 900 for a sub and there are lots of options there. If you want towers look for RTI A5 fronts for ~600 which would leave you about 600 for a sub.
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Originally Posted by SupaKats View Post

I can't find your original post so I don't remember the question asked.

Can you let is know again.

If it is a 5 channel set up and a receiver I would look for a receiver for ~500 with pre outs incase you ever want an amp. Do you want towers or bookshelf speakers for your fronts? If you are only doing bookshelfs you could do 4x RTI A3 or 2x RTI A3 and 2x FXI A6 for 570. Which would leave you up to 900 for a sub and there are lots of options there. If you want towers look for RTI A5 fronts for ~600 which would leave you about 600 for a sub.
This is what I had in mind.
-CSiA4 (have)
-RTiA5s
-FXiA4s
-2 PSW505s (but its been suggested that I'd be better off with a single better sub such as the PB1000)
-Unsure about a receiver
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Originally Posted by xFreshEntrailsX View Post

Yeah the $1,000 power cord is bogus.. the $700 power conditioner bogus .. but this http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-NRG-WEL-Signature-Series/dp/B0055OM9WS/ref=sr_1_76?ie=UTF8&qid=1377533470&sr=8-76&keywords=audioquest .. this is what you need .. not only will you hear music better .. but you will actually be able to hear the secrets of the universe being unraveled ....

Thanks for that link. It was the best bunch of laughs in quite a while.
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Originally Posted by SteeleJester View Post

This is what I had in mind.
-CSiA4 (have)
-RTiA5s
-FXiA4s
-2 PSW505s (but its been suggested that I'd be better off with a single better sub such as the PB1000)
-Unsure about a receiver

If you get the speakers from polk eBay(5's not currently in stock) that would be 885 + tax for the speakers plus like I said a receiver with pre outs for 500ish (check accessories4less if comfortable with refurbs) and then I would look at Rythmik Audio LV12R(or PB1000 if you need to save) as either would outperform the 505's.
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Thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by SteeleJester View Post

Thanks for the help.

No problem
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Originally Posted by SteeleJester View Post

This is what I had in mind.
-CSiA4 (have)
-RTiA5s
-FXiA4s
-2 PSW505s (but its been suggested that I'd be better off with a single better sub such as the PB1000)
-Unsure about a receiver

If you are near Houston just know that I'm selling my RTi A system in cherry (Pair of RTi A9, CSi A6 and pair of RTi A3). Only for local pickup.
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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio View Post

If you are near Houston just know that I'm selling my RTi A system in cherry (Pair of RTi A9, CSi A6 and pair of RTi A3). Only for local pickup.

Have you posted in the classifieds forum?
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No yet. Planning on to do it tomorrow.
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