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post #22111 of 35019
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

So far so good. Rocking Lynnard Skynard, imaging great as always. Will demo the new Star Trek here shortly to see how the new arrangement of the surrounds are impacted and the narrow width of my wides. Side note; in previous home set up when wides were used along with dual subs, the width of the set up was 15.5 feet. The current set up sans the subs is just under 12'

Now for clean up and cable mgmt.

Man it's good to hear tunes again. It's been week.
Ill be curious to hear what you think about the new surround arrangement. Would it be feasible to mount the back one to the other wall so that its pointed the right direction? Its probably going to sound kinda funny having them pointed in different directions like that.
Definitely like that small entertainment stand better than that phone booth looking thing you have.
post #22112 of 35019
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Once you've used bookies for wides and then go towers, the difference will be more than noticeable.
Agreed!

Speaking of wides, I had to scratch my plan, would have to invest in new cable, build new cable, new HDMI cable....what a pain. I re-swapped walls and was able to reconfigure my space to keep all four seats (used 3 prior) and using wides on the original wall. It's a tad bit tight, but I've reconfigured my AV cabinet to a basic simple design, so, I'll hook up today and give it a test ride and see how much I'll need to adjust the suspension biggrin.gif

So far today;




I think you really need to try one of the a9 as a center.
post #22113 of 35019
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

I don't think my 35B's will do wides any justice and that's what I have. So my thinking is to get 55T or 65T for wides. If I can get 75T for $199ea like my first pair then I'd even go with those. biggrin.gif

The wife has been warned another set of speakers and amp are already being planned. Her reaction?mad.gif She said, you won't even be able to tell the difference. What a noob.biggrin.gif.

Once you've used bookies for wides and then go towers, the difference will be more than noticeable.

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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

yeah wides should be same/similar towers as your mains.

Agreed!

Speaking of wides, I had to scratch my plan, would have to invest in new cable, build new cable, new HDMI cable....what a pain. I re-swapped walls and was able to reconfigure my space to keep all four seats (used 3 prior) and using wides on the original wall. It's a tad bit tight, but I've reconfigured my AV cabinet to a basic simple design, so, I'll hook up today and give it a test ride and see how much I'll need to adjust the suspension biggrin.gif

So far today;




Dude, I'm looking at your pics. No fair you use tools. biggrin.gif
post #22114 of 35019
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Originally Posted by PretzelFisch View Post

I think you really need to try one of the a9 as a center.

I used to do that with M60's. I had the screen between the center and right tower, and the equipment cabinet between the center and the left tower. It works okay if you don't mind the center being off center, so to speak. Otherwise if the center is to be vertical the screen must be mounted very high, or of the center is horizontal the tweeter is off to one side.
post #22115 of 35019
Ok. Let's try one more time:


Before! (Click to show)



After! (Click to show)



















Did you notice that I was having supervision thought out the whole installation?

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post #22116 of 35019
Looks great. Nice and neat setup.
post #22117 of 35019
Nice Carlos. ...and yes we can tell that you were being "coached" throughout the install. wink.gif
post #22118 of 35019
How does it sound? The sub looks like a apple product...not sure how I feel about it, definitely different. Polks look great of course. Is this more for decoration? I could not imagine listening to this over your system down stairs. Ahh let me guess, I bet this is the Wifes setup?
post #22119 of 35019
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Looks great. Nice and neat setup.

Thanks man!
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

Nice Carlos. ...and yes we can tell that you were being "coached" throughout the install. wink.gif

LOL...........she was all the time watching me moving things around, hooking all the gear, making the network connections, etc., but she left her guard position as soon I started playing music.................wink.gif
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

How does it sound? The sub looks like a apple product...not sure how I feel about it, definitely different. Polks look great of course. Is this more for decoration? I could not imagine listening to this over your system down stairs. Ahh let me guess, I bet this is the Wifes setup?

Well, I was able to get the Denon network system with recognition points at my work. Only issue was that I had enough for the white finish only. Then, I decided to purchase a new printer and I pulled the trigger on the white finish too (so, both units at the console will be white). Finally, I saw the SVS SB-1000 on polished piano white, I knew about the 45 days return policy, so it wasn't too difficult to pull the trigger on this sub.

I don't own a single Apple product (blasphemy!!!), so the white finish was totally unintentional from my side. Nonetheless, I really like to look as it is different (especially from the sub point of view). wink.gif

Bingo.................this is going to be my wife's setup!!!
Edited by cr136124 - 9/22/13 at 7:27pm
post #22120 of 35019
I scored 2 floor standing speakers TSi400 at Frys for $99 each. Also i scored Sony STR-DH720 for $127. Now i need to look for center channel speaker and a sub woofer to go with them. Could anyone please suggest something that goes well with those.

Thanks in Advance
post #22121 of 35019
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Originally Posted by madnaxal78 View Post

I scored 2 floor standing speakers TSi400 at Frys for $99 each. Now i need to look for center channel speaker to go with them. Could anyone please suggest something that goes well with those.

The matching center channel speaker for your Tsi400's is the CS10.
Is yours black or cherry? Pls PM me if cherry would fit your needs.

...
Edited by RobLee - 9/23/13 at 10:18am
post #22122 of 35019
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Originally Posted by madnaxal78 View Post

I scored 2 floor standing speakers TSi400 at Frys for $99 each. Also i scored Sony STR-DH720 for $127. Now i need to look for center channel speaker and a sub woofer to go with them. Could anyone please suggest something that goes well with those.

Thanks in Advance
Choosing a sub has nothing to do with what brand/make/model your other speakers are. Its really more to do with your budget.
post #22123 of 35019
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Originally Posted by madnaxal78 View Post

I scored 2 floor standing speakers TSi400 at Frys for $99 each. Also i scored Sony STR-DH720 for $127. Now i need to look for center channel speaker and a sub woofer to go with them. Could anyone please suggest something that goes well with those.

Thanks in Advance

whats your budget for a sub?
post #22124 of 35019
Hey fellas. On using banana plugs, would you use them on the back of the wall plate or use bare wire thru hole and set screw?
post #22125 of 35019
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Hey fellas. On using banana plugs, would you use them on the back of the wall plate or use bare wire thru hole and set screw?

I use banana plugs Swelled Deadbolts for the AVR and speakers connections. However, I am thinking of switching to spades for the the speaker connections.
post #22126 of 35019
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Hey fellas. On using banana plugs, would you use them on the back of the wall plate or use bare wire thru hole and set screw?

I use banana plugs Swelled Deadbolts for the AVR and speakers connections. However, I am thinking of switching to spades for the the speaker connections.

Are you using a faceplate? If I use banana plugs at each connection point I will need 4 sets for each speaker-- AVR, back of keystone wall plate, front of keystone wall plate and speaker. I was thinking of not doing the back of wall plate. Thots?
post #22127 of 35019
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Hey fellas. On using banana plugs, would you use them on the back of the wall plate or use bare wire thru hole and set screw?

If it was me, I would use bare wire on the side that is in the wall, and if possible try to solder it to the backplate. On the side you can see obviously banana's.

However not all backplates are setup the same... Link us to yours please smile.gif
post #22128 of 35019
Hi. First poster here.

I noticed my left LSI-9 got a bit shy with the high frequencies. I played a 12Hz test tone and it was silent. I mean the left speaker. Mids and lows are fine in left. Right speaker is OK with all frequencies, highs too.

So I am sure the left tweeter is gone.

Two questions:

1) There are other things: crossover, etc. How do I exclude those as the culprit?

2) Supposing we ruled out other things and it is the tweeter that went bust. I called Polk and they quoted $116 for this tweeter (RD0517-2). Are there sites that sell it cheaper? Of course not looking for a used one. God knows what that one has been through. May go belly up the next day after replacement.

The Polk guy said I should be able to replace it myself - no soldering , just connect and that's it.

What would you guys do if you were in my shoes?

Thanks
post #22129 of 35019
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Originally Posted by grigorianvlad View Post

Hi. First poster here.

I noticed my left LSI-9 got a bit shy with the high frequencies. I played a 12Hz test tone and it was silent. I mean the left speaker. Mids and lows are fine in left. Right speaker is OK with all frequencies, highs too.

So I am sure the left tweeter is gone.

Two questions:

1) There are other things: crossover, etc. How do I exclude those as the culprit?

2) Supposing we ruled out other things and it is the tweeter that went bust. I called Polk and they quoted $116 for this tweeter (RD0517-2). Are there sites that sell it cheaper? Of course not looking for a used one. God knows what that one has been through. May go belly up the next day after replacement.

The Polk guy said I should be able to replace it myself - no soldering , just connect and that's it.

What would you guys do if you were in my shoes?

Thanks

Have you checked to make sure the metal bridge between the upper and lower binding post are tight? If those are good you're most likely going to have to order a new tweeter from Polk unless one of the other guys has a recommendation. I assume the speakers are out of warranty.
You could swap tweeters and that would tell you it's the tweeter and not the crossover.
Edited by XStanleyX - 9/24/13 at 9:07am
post #22130 of 35019
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Have you checked to make sure the metal bridge between the upper and lower binding post are tight? If those are good you're most likely going to have to order a new tweeter from Polk unless one of the other guys has a recommendation. I assume the speakers are out of warranty.
You could swap tweeters and that would tell you it's the tweeter and not the crossover.

Looking at your mancave pics, XStanleyX. Salivating like a hungry dog before a juicy steak. Yammy!
post #22131 of 35019
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Originally Posted by grigorianvlad View Post

Looking at your mancave pics, XStanleyX. Salivating like a hungry dog before a juicy steak. Yammy!

Don't look at some of the other guys systems or you might have a stroke. Thanks for the compliment.
post #22132 of 35019
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Originally Posted by grigorianvlad View Post

Hi. First poster here.

I noticed my left LSI-9 got a bit shy with the high frequencies. I played a 12Hz test tone and it was silent. I mean the left speaker. Mids and lows are fine in left. Right speaker is OK with all frequencies, highs too. So I am sure the left tweeter is gone.

1) There are other things: crossover, etc. How do I exclude those as the culprit?

First thing I would do... well, second after checking the metal strap, is to swap the left and right speakers and see what happens.
post #22133 of 35019
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

First thing I would do... well, second after checking the metal strap, is to swap the left and right speakers and see what happens.

He can swap, but I am 99% sure it will not change anything. If he was getting no sound, then the question would be AVR or speaker. With just the tweeter being silent, I am pretty sure he either has a blown tweeter or an internal wire loose.
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post #22134 of 35019
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

He can swap, but I am 99% sure it will not change anything. If he was getting no sound, then the question would be AVR or speaker. With just the tweeter being silent, I am pretty sure he either has a blown tweeter or an internal wire loose.
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post #22135 of 35019
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

He can swap, but I am 99% sure it will not change anything. If he was getting no sound, then the question would be AVR or speaker. With just the tweeter being silent, I am pretty sure he either has a blown tweeter or an internal wire loose.

Exactly . I swapped the speakers and right speaker connected to left one's wires produced perfect highs. Next thing to do is to swap actual tweeters to rule out a failed crossover or wiring. If right speaker's tweeter works in left's enclosure, we know whom to blame.

Me. Got a power amplifier a few days ago and got carried away. Now paying for it. Literally. mad.gif
post #22136 of 35019
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Originally Posted by grigorianvlad View Post

Exactly . I swapped the speakers and right speaker connected to left one's wires produced perfect highs. Next thing to do is to swap actual tweeters to rule out a failed crossover or wiring. If right speaker's tweeter works in left's enclosure, we know whom to blame.

Me. Got a power amplifier a few days ago and got carried away. Now paying for it. Literally.
That'll do it.
post #22137 of 35019
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Great to have you. This thread is the best out of all I follow .smile.gif Great group of guys as I'm sure you'll learn soon. Any question whether Polk related or not will get answered and all opinions are regarded as just that. You wont find fights over which cable brand is better here. biggrin.gif

I agree with getting the timbre match center. Great job on getting it! I will give a suggestion on a sub solution if your somewhat handy. Build it yourself. I know seems daunting but with kits available it really is quite easy. Here is a link to the kit I'm currently building. I've put one together already but it's not painted so I won't show pics till 100% complete. But really it was easy. Look what you get for the $$$. You put in some sweat equity but for me it was well worth it. Just another option.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-7097

I was looking at this exact setup weeks ago. Are u going with one of the bash plate amps or pro amp. Plz post pix when done with paint. I might try plasti dip with my enclosure though.
post #22138 of 35019
Am in the same boat as this guy who posted in the Amp thread..
My speakers are Polk Rti A7's for the front and Polk F/Xi A6's for the surrounds with a CSiA6 center.. I was considering the Emotiva XPA-5. Would this amp be the appropriate choice? Any suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Posts answering the qn...
XPA-5 works very well - $999

Other options include:
- an XPA-3 for the front three speakers, with your AVR powering your surrounds; and - $799
- an XPA-200 for your mains, with your AVR powering your CC speaker and surrounds. - $499

So what i would like to know is Are there any other options with Emotiva.. Go with Crowns if so what price range am i looking at ?
What gives the best bang for the buck and be on a budget. Having all the speakers powered by Amp or just the mains or CC/Surrounds and leave the rest for the AVR.
post #22139 of 35019
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Originally Posted by Imageless83 View Post

I was looking at this exact setup weeks ago. Are u going with one of the bash plate amps or pro amp. Plz post pix when done with paint. I might try plasti dip with my enclosure though.

I have a SERIOUS issue with that box personally.

If you look at the driver alone note its Frequency Response of 15 to 1,000 Hz. If you look at the box they add look long and hard at this sentence "For optimum performance with the Ultimax 15" subwoofer, add three pounds of Acousta-Stuf polyfill for a Qtc of 0.707 and an f3 of 35 Hz."

Unless I am reading that wrong, they are taking a sub capable of going into the teens (15hz) and making it drop at 35 hz, max. That IMHO is a NO NO. I would rather DIY the box, have it look ugly and get more output out of the sub. And I realize that the 15hz is probably a stretch, but even if it can hit 20hz, you wont ever see it in that box.

Just my thoughts....

You could make your own box and not brace it if you dont want, just make it thick enough and you should be fine. Personally I am debating taking an TC Sounds Epik 12" sub and building a sonotube or two out with them. I figure I can almost copy SVS's spec's with maybe a 14" diameter sonotube thats about 36" tall. My brother in law is in the flooring/carpet business so I can use him for that part, and my uncles are in construction/carpentry so I could have them help me make the cuts for the top and bottom plates.

You could do similar with that sub, just source a 16" in diameter or larger sonotube, wrap the inside with some polyfill, and spec out the height you need and the size port you need, make the plates and your done.
Edited by EndersShadow - 9/24/13 at 11:57am
post #22140 of 35019
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Originally Posted by ncube2 View Post

Am in the same boat as this guy who posted in the Amp thread..
My speakers are Polk Rti A7's for the front and Polk F/Xi A6's for the surrounds with a CSiA6 center.. I was considering the Emotiva XPA-5. Would this amp be the appropriate choice? Any suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Posts answering the qn...
XPA-5 works very well - $999

Other options include:
- an XPA-3 for the front three speakers, with your AVR powering your surrounds; and - $799
- an XPA-200 for your mains, with your AVR powering your CC speaker and surrounds. - $499

So what i would like to know is Are there any other options with Emotiva.. Go with Crowns if so what price range am i looking at ?
What gives the best bang for the buck and be on a budget. Having all the speakers powered by Amp or just the mains or CC/Surrounds and leave the rest for the AVR.

I am going to be nice today and give you a long response (even though its been typed many times smile.gif).

First of all, what AVR do you have? They are not all created equal and so the watts per channel on some (Pioneer Elite) tend to be more accurate with all channels driven than other brands (Onkyo, Denon, Integra, etc). The AVR you have may change recommendations but here are my thoughts and my thoughts alone:

If budget is a concern IMHO I would suggest starting with a 2 channel amp. You could get a 3 channel amp if you wanted as well. Most of your truly heavy lifting is done by your fronts. Your Left and Right provide a LARGE amount of your special effects and your center is a LARGE portion of your dialog. Your surrounds mostly provide spatial effects so you can hear bullets wiz by you, around you etc. There isnt a HUGE amount of wattage normally required to create these effects, which is why most people also suggest you cross your surrounds over around 80hz or so.

So to me the most important channels to amp are your fronts, and of those, your Left and Right as normally those speaker will have the most drivers contained within them and dig the deepest of your speakers. This isnt to say your surrounds dont benefit from more power, or cleaner power, they simply IMHO dont give you as much of a performance boost when they are amped compared to your front 2/3.

So if it was me I would look at getting the 2 or 3 channel amp, it will be the most cost effective and you can always add another amp later on if you feel you are lacking.

Now to your other question. This one is one area where you will get 50 different answers. Emotiva amps are a great entry level step up amp and will do MUCH better than your AVR at powering your speakers. That said if you are willing to do some research and shop around you may find that the used market may provide more options within your price point for amps that are as good or in some cases better than Emotiva amps.

Some folks here have no problem using pro audio amps for their HT, but I am personally not one of them. Most of those pro amps are built to be used in a pro audio environment where if they have fans that kick on and sound loud its not a problem. I would stay away from pro amps personally, but again thats your decision. There are modifications that can be made to ensure the fan's turn on slow, or at low volume however most void any warranty you would then have.

Some company's to look at are Emotiva, Parasound, Carver, Outlaw and I am sure others will get mentioned as well.

Now my next question is what sub are you using? IMHO your sub is also a CRUCIAL piece of equipment most folks overlook. Depending on what sub your using I might suggest getting a 2 channel amp and depending on what you have left over either building a DIY sub, or buying a better one outright.
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