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post #22171 of 35015
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

The monitors sound better with more power. The new egg price is pretty good with the free shipping on the 75t at 399.99 for a pair.
The polk ebay store still has the older 70 series at $374.99, not $274 as previously posted. They are also available in cherry, a more spouse friendly finish. biggrin.gif

http://stores.ebay.com/Polk-Audio-Direct/Towers-Floorstanding-/_i.html?_fsub=160111119&_sid=686154689&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
Be aware that the Monitors at Newegg are brand new and the ones at Polk ebay are "manufacturer refurbished".

and the only difference being a shorter warranty. Polk has excellent CS and the refurbished models from all accounts appear to be just like new. I would buy from the ebay store no problem.
post #22172 of 35015
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

and the only difference being a shorter warranty. Polk has excellent CS and the refurbished models from all accounts appear to be just like new. I would buy from the ebay store no problem.
I just ordered my a7's and a6 from their ebay store.. i should have chosen a faster delivery method cuz im real anxious. But 5 days isnt to bad going to ny from cali
post #22173 of 35015
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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

and the only difference being a shorter warranty. Polk has excellent CS and the refurbished models from all accounts appear to be just like new. I would buy from the ebay store no problem.
I just ordered my a7's and a6 from their ebay store.. i should have chosen a faster delivery method cuz im real anxious. But 5 days isnt to bad going to ny from cali

cool! cool.gif

expect a full review once you get them set up! biggrin.gif
post #22174 of 35015
2nd set of 75Ts and amp ordered. So now my 9.2 setup will be the following:

Fronts-75T
Center-25C
Heights-35B
Wides-75T
Surrounds-35B
Subs-DIY Dayton Audio 15" Ultimax

AVR-Onkyo TX-NR818
AMP-Crown XLS 1500
AMP-Crown XLS 1000

I have one question. I was initially going to mount my surrounds at ceiling height parallel to main seating. But I'm wondering if I should lower them. I can mount them on the side walls but they will be about 6 inches behind main seating. They won't be equidistant either. The LS will be about 3ft away and the RS will be about 6ft away. Audessey should correct this tho. What do the experts that have given me such great advice so far think would be best? Thanks again fellas!biggrin.gif
post #22175 of 35015
I too am going to have a full surround sound using the monitor line from newegg. Right now I have the 25C for my center, and looking to get the 45B's for my fronts. I have polk t15's im going to use for my rears. The only thing is I am concerned that the receiver won't be powerful enough to power the speakers without damaging them. I have an Onkyo TX-Sr605, and was wondering if I need to upgrade my receiver to a more powerful one, or will the one I have be sufficiant?
post #22176 of 35015
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Originally Posted by krt919 View Post

I too am going to have a full surround sound using the monitor line from newegg. Right now I have the 25C for my center, and looking to get the 45B's for my fronts. I have polk t15's im going to use for my rears. The only thing is I am concerned that the receiver won't be powerful enough to power the speakers without damaging them. I have an Onkyo TX-Sr605, and was wondering if I need to upgrade my receiver to a more powerful one, or will the one I have be sufficiant?

It should be fine to power them. I believer the 605 give at least 90 wpc. If you want to upgrade your AVR, I would suggest buying one that has amp pre-outs. That way you can buy an external amp to power up your speakers.
post #22177 of 35015
Right now I'm running
-Csi A4
-Rti4s
-some crummy surrounds

Should I get some fxi a4s or A5s/rti8s (much difference between the two?) and move the rti8s to surround?
post #22178 of 35015
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

It should be fine to power them. I believer the 605 give at least 90 wpc. If you want to upgrade your AVR, I would suggest buying one that has amp pre-outs. That way you can buy an external amp to power up your speakers.

Thank you for your input. With an external amp, do you need one for each set of speakers?
post #22179 of 35015
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

Excellent price for some good entry level speakers that I am more the sure you will be satisfied with.

When it comes to powering the big 70's though, they do like a lot of it. I ran my 70's off a denon 1611 - 80w/per channel (i think) and blew my tweeters. I upped it to an onkyo 809 130w/per channel (I think) and still blew my tweeters. Granted 2 of the 3 times I blew them it was technically my fault - too much alcohol and too little attention paid to the volume levels. The third time I blew the tweeters I was demoing a scene from the Book of Eli for a buddy. I had the volume at -17dB and a gun shot in the scene killed my tweeter - not sure why this one happened. I then upped to an xpa-5 and the added power allowed me to get the spl levels I desired without fear of over distorting the signal. It also added some weight to the bass - the speakers were able to play lower cleaner. Now the amp did not change the sound signature of the speakers per se - they still sound like monitors, but they can play at their full potential without fear of running out of power. Later I got a good deal on a used xpa-2 and added that to power my 70's with the 5 handling the rest of my speakers. and the xpa-2 on the monitors is a very good combo. two channel listening does not require a sub - though some of my music tastes still demand my sub to be in use. the xpa-2 might be a little overkill for the monitors, but having it in the rack will allow me to power any future speakers no problem.

So in short, your yammie will power your set up, but I do encourage you to explore the option of adding more power to them. you will only be using a few watts most of the time, but on certain dynamic peaks the added power will add to your enjoyment of your speakers.

Jason:
What were you drinking when you blew your tweeters? (That almost sounds rude.)
I added a carver av 405 to power the front channels to my 70's and CS2, and the difference was subtle between the output of my 809, and the external amp. I like the range of the Carver better than the Onkyo.
post #22180 of 35015
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Originally Posted by krt919 View Post

Thank you for your input. With an external amp, do you need one for each set of speakers?

It depends on the output of the amp, the number of channels, and the power you require. Most stereo amps can be bridged for most (not all) speakers to double the output (or maybe even more). That would require two stereo amps (bridged) for two speakers. Mono amps are for one speaker only. There are also a plethora of amps out there in 3, 5, 7, and even more channels. Those are designed for home theater and whole-house audio. Be sure you are buying the right amp for the job. Amplifier hunting is a finicky art. Like most of the guys have said way back in this forum, go with an amp that is at least the same rating as your speakers. You can actually go over your speaker rating with an amp, but be careful. A 250W speaker on a 300- 400W amp should be fine unless you max out the volume. An underpowered amp at say 140W for a 300 - 500W speaker will blow them just as fast, if not faster, than an amp that is too powerful. The lower powered amps clip when trying to get high SPLs and the clipping of the amp pegs the drivers and heats up the voice coils, blowing them in a quick and uneventful puff of smoke and a crack!

Bottom line, if you want only drive two speakers, get two mono amps or a good stereo amp. cool.gif
post #22181 of 35015
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

It depends on the output of the amp, the number of channels, and the power you require. Most stereo amps can be bridged for most (not all) speakers to double the output (or maybe even more). That would require two stereo amps (bridged) for two speakers. Mono amps are for one speaker only. There are also a plethora of amps out there in 3, 5, 7, and even more channels. Those are designed for home theater and whole-house audio. Be sure you are buying the right amp for the job. Amplifier hunting is a finicky art. Like most of the guys have said way back in this forum, go with an amp that is at least the same rating as your speakers. You can actually go over your speaker rating with an amp, but be careful. A 250W speaker on a 300- 400W amp should be fine unless you max out the volume. An underpowered amp at say 140W for a 300 - 500W speaker will blow them just as fast, if not faster, than an amp that is too powerful. The lower powered amps clip when trying to get high SPLs and the clipping of the amp pegs the drivers and heats up the voice coils, blowing them in a quick and uneventful puff of smoke and a crack!

Bottom line, if you want only drive two speakers, get two mono amps or a good stereo amp. cool.gif

Sooo.... i have an onkyo 818 and should be receiving my rti-a7's and a6 tomorrow.
From all the recent amp talk it sounds as if i should get an amp before attempting to setup all my stuff.? Am i getting that right??
Anyone have any suggestions about a cheap decent reliable 3 channel amp???
Bi-wiring- how much of an improvement does this provide?
post #22182 of 35015
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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

Sooo.... i have an onkyo 818 and should be receiving my rti-a7's and a6 tomorrow.
From all the recent amp talk it sounds as if i should get an amp before attempting to setup all my stuff.? Am i getting that right??
Anyone have any suggestions about a cheap decent reliable 3 channel amp???
Bi-wiring- how much of an improvement does this provide?

the NR-818 is a decently powerful AVR. You won't get the 135 WPC with three or more channels driven (power will drop with each channel added), but it should be fine. Just don't try to set up a concert in your home. When you max out the volume, the AVR will begin to clip. Without a power meter, you won't know it until you hear it. Once you hear it, it may be too late. Use moderate volume levels (I'd say reference or below) and set the max volume at 0DB or about at 82 (whichever scale your using on your AVR). If you are listening or watching above reference level, you need a POWERFUL amp and some high powered speakers that can hit high SPLs (RTiA9s...). cool.gif

A lot of people here like Emotiva amps due to their price for performance. I and many others have had excellent experiences with th
em. wink.gif

Bi-wire is useless.
Bi-amp (with an AVR) is useless too. Don't waste your money on the extra cable. I did and now it's rolled up on a reel collecting dust. You get imperceptible or no benefits from either. Just use good quality 14 to 10 gauge copper and you're golden. Don't buy the expensive stuff either. Good old blue jeans cable, monoprice, or Original Monster Cable (10 gauge) from amazon.com.
post #22183 of 35015

agree.If I don't go the Klipsch I will be adding sperate amps for sure, but until the time comes.

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post #22184 of 35015
...all this talk of amps and speakers... Time to rattle the neighbors windows. biggrin.gif
post #22185 of 35015
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post


I have one question. I was initially going to mount my surrounds at ceiling height parallel to main seating. But I'm wondering if I should lower them.

Yeah, I'd lower them. Mine have mostly, and currently, been right around 2' up from ear level. And, if you've seen the way mine are mounted right now, kind of unorthodox, yet Audyssey did a wonderful job of setting them up. I was a little apprehensive of the way they are but so far, the sound field is pretty impressive.

post #22186 of 35015
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

Excellent price for some good entry level speakers that I am more the sure you will be satisfied with.

When it comes to powering the big 70's though, they do like a lot of it. I ran my 70's off a denon 1611 - 80w/per channel (i think) and blew my tweeters. I upped it to an onkyo 809 130w/per channel (I think) and still blew my tweeters. Granted 2 of the 3 times I blew them it was technically my fault - too much alcohol and too little attention paid to the volume levels. The third time I blew the tweeters I was demoing a scene from the Book of Eli for a buddy. I had the volume at -17dB and a gun shot in the scene killed my tweeter - not sure why this one happened. I then upped to an xpa-5 and the added power allowed me to get the spl levels I desired without fear of over distorting the signal. It also added some weight to the bass - the speakers were able to play lower cleaner. Now the amp did not change the sound signature of the speakers per se - they still sound like monitors, but they can play at their full potential without fear of running out of power. Later I got a good deal on a used xpa-2 and added that to power my 70's with the 5 handling the rest of my speakers. and the xpa-2 on the monitors is a very good combo. two channel listening does not require a sub - though some of my music tastes still demand my sub to be in use. the xpa-2 might be a little overkill for the monitors, but having it in the rack will allow me to power any future speakers no problem.

So in short, your yammie will power your set up, but I do encourage you to explore the option of adding more power to them. you will only be using a few watts most of the time, but on certain dynamic peaks the added power will add to your enjoyment of your speakers.

Jason:
What were you drinking when you blew your tweeters? (That almost sounds rude.)
I added a carver av 405 to power the front channels to my 70's and CS2, and the difference was subtle between the output of my 809, and the external amp. I like the range of the Carver better than the Onkyo.
post #22187 of 35015
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Yeah, I'd lower them. Mine have mostly, and currently, been right around 2' up from ear level. And, if you've seen the way mine are mounted right now, kind of unorthodox, yet Audyssey did a wonderful job of setting them up. I was a little apprehensive of the way they are but so far, the sound field is pretty impressive.


I see one big problem with those chairs. They're yours and not mine.
post #22188 of 35015
You're welcome to come down and test drive them anytime brother smile.gif
post #22189 of 35015
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

You're welcome to come down and test drive them anytime brother smile.gif

I would but they won't fit in my car. biggrin.gif
post #22190 of 35015
If any of you guys ever need a HDMI cable that will bend around a tighter corner than the monoprice stuff check these out. They are real pretty and cheap too.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BEWHOQ6/ref=pe_385040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
post #22191 of 35015
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post


I have one question. I was initially going to mount my surrounds at ceiling height parallel to main seating. But I'm wondering if I should lower them.

Yeah, I'd lower them. Mine have mostly, and currently, been right around 2' up from ear level. And, if you've seen the way mine are mounted right now, kind of unorthodox, yet Audyssey did a wonderful job of setting them up. I was a little apprehensive of the way they are but so far, the sound field is pretty impressive.


Thanks! Thot I'd been forgot about.mad.gif I believe I will lower them. I appreciate all the advice. I am now doing the actual wiring and placement. The fun stuff!biggrin.gif. What started out as 5.1 then went to 7.1 then became 7.2 is now 9.2. And she still asks, "now are you done?" U'd think she stop asking.wink.gif
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post #22193 of 35015
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Originally Posted by krt919 View Post

Thank you for your input. With an external amp, do you need one for each set of speakers?

That depends on what type of amp you get. Single or mono channel amp can only be use for one speaker. Then there are two, three, four, five, etc channel amps.
post #22194 of 35015
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Originally Posted by SteeleJester View Post

Right now I'm running
-Csi A4
-Rti4s
-some crummy surrounds

Should I get some fxi a4s or A5s/rti8s (much difference between the two?) and move the rti8s to surround?

Rti8's are the older version of the A5's. Same drivers, but the A5 has curved cabinets and the 8's are rectangular (matching your Rti4's). Use the Rti8's up front and move the Rti4's to surround. The Fxi4's are nice surrounds but IMO you really need a pair of full size towers like the 8's up front.
post #22195 of 35015
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

the NR-818 is a decently powerful AVR. You won't get the 135 WPC with three or more channels driven (power will drop with each channel added), but it should be fine. Just don't try to set up a concert in your home. When you max out the volume, the AVR will begin to clip. Without a power meter, you won't know it until you hear it. Once you hear it, it may be too late. Use moderate volume levels (I'd say reference or below) and set the max volume at 0DB or about at 82 (whichever scale your using on your AVR). If you are listening or watching above reference level, you need a POWERFUL amp and some high powered speakers that can hit high SPLs (RTiA9s...). cool.gif

A lot of people here like Emotiva amps due to their price for performance. I and many others have had excellent experiences with th
em. wink.gif

Bi-wire is useless.
Bi-amp (with an AVR) is useless too. Don't waste your money on the extra cable. I did and now it's rolled up on a reel collecting dust. You get imperceptible or no benefits from either. Just use good quality 14 to 10 gauge copper and you're golden. Don't buy the expensive stuff either. Good old blue jeans cable, monoprice, or Original Monster Cable (10 gauge) from amazon.com.

Cool. Arent those emotivas bit on the pricey side?? i saw those crowns werent to expensive. I really need to hit up some amp threads.
I got 14gauge and banana plugs from monoprice. Hoping they arrive on monday
post #22196 of 35015
Hello all,

I recently acquired an Onkyo tx-sr608 from a friend to run a pair of Polk Rti8's, csi3, and r300s. I ran the Audessy calibration, however the results just don't sound right. I have to turn the volume up to almost 60db to get some good sound, but it's still not that loud. The center channel is also not to loud and detailed. This problem happens when I play a movie from my bluray player. If I use my HTPC the sound comes in much more crisp and detailed and around 50db the sound is quite loud. Any suggestions on what might be happening here?

Also, what would a pair of used Polk FXi3 surround speakers be worth these days?

Thank you!
post #22197 of 35015
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Originally Posted by blobula View Post

Hello all,

I recently acquired an Onkyo tx-sr608 from a friend to run a pair of Polk Rti8's, csi3, and r300s. I ran the Audessy calibration, however the results just don't sound right. I have to turn the volume up to almost 60db to get some good sound, but it's still not that loud. The center channel is also not to loud and detailed. This problem happens when I play a movie from my bluray player. If I use my HTPC the sound comes in much more crisp and detailed and around 50db the sound is quite loud. Any suggestions on what might be happening here?




If dynamic volume is enabled in audyssey turn it off. That might be the cause.
post #22198 of 35015
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Originally Posted by blobula View Post

Hello all,

I recently acquired an Onkyo tx-sr608 from a friend to run a pair of Polk Rti8's, csi3, and r300s. I ran the Audessy calibration, however the results just don't sound right. I have to turn the volume up to almost 60db to get some good sound, but it's still not that loud. The center channel is also not to loud and detailed. This problem happens when I play a movie from my bluray player. If I use my HTPC the sound comes in much more crisp and detailed and around 50db the sound is quite loud. Any suggestions on what might be happening here?

Also, what would a pair of used Polk FXi3 surround speakers be worth these days?

Thank you!

Volume level can be relatively arbitrary. It is very dependent upon the input signal. Input signals often vary relative to type and strength.
post #22199 of 35015
The second one is here biggrin.gif





I'll run Audyssey later tonight wink.gif
post #22200 of 35015
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Originally Posted by enricoclaudio View Post

The second one is here biggrin.gif


I'll run Audyssey later tonight wink.gif


Congrats Enrico!
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