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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

NP. As everyone else said, buy from a physical store so you get a discount. Most places will price match, which is even cooler since you can get it today rather than wait for it to be shipped.
LOL... it wasnt turned on at that point. I have got it configured and let me tell you, it digs LOW LOW LOW.....

I was going to take some REW graphs, but well it appears I am too dumb to figure out the initial configuration of the software so I cant right now.

pm if you have any rew questions, i can help you smile.gif
post #22532 of 34670
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

hide your wallet as Geoff will recommend you to buy a second pair of A7's and use them as wide speakers......................tongue.gif

biggrin.gif Actually, I was going to recommend he move his 7's to wide and get a pair of 9's for mains biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by wtxgringo View Post

I'm upgrading from the Monitor 70s & 40s to RTi A7s & already bought the CSi A6 center (much cleaner dialogue over the CS2 it replaced!), so my ? is for surrounds, have read tons of reviews etc & can't really tell if the RTi A5 or FXi A6 would be better? I split my listening between music & movies, lots of tv. Am planning to use RTi A3s for front wides. Any opinions greatly appreciated! Have an HSU sub for bass & use an Onkyo HT-RC180 to drive it all. Thx biggrin.gif

Nice upgrade, I and a few others here have made the same move.

Like CR states, a big YES to FXiA6, you will be sooooo happy you did.

Do you already have the A3's? If not, you may consider getting the RTiA5 to use as a wide. The tower adds an element that the bookshelf cannot bring to the table fo sho
post #22533 of 34670
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

pm if you have any rew questions, i can help you smile.gif

LOL.... yeah, its a little too hard to do over PM to be honest lol.

I will keep throwing my head against that wall, but I am having trouble with the physical setup, as well some calibration stuff, and with a 8 month old and mom whose not super into me having cables all over the room, or running sweeps, my time is very limited.......
post #22534 of 34670
Any do's and dont's or rules to know about deciding between direct firing and bipole,, deciding between the rtia3 and fxia6.
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It is recommended that front heights and back surrounds are direct radiating.
post #22536 of 34670
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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

Any do's and dont's or rules to know about deciding between direct firing and bipole,, deciding between the rtia3 and fxia6.

What do you want to know? What position do you have planned for them?

There's really no wrong or right or do's and don'ts. In this arena, experimentation is what gains you the result you can be happy with.

Some owners prefer direct radiating while others prefer the bipole. I love them both.

And while some prefer to have towers for mains only and then bookies everywhere else, others prefer all towers.

I have run a 7.x set up from the beginning. I've run satellites for wides, heights, surrounds and rears. I've bookies for all four, and I've run towers in three of the four positions heights being excluded.

My preference; in addition to the center (conventional) and mains (towers), towers for wide and rear, bipole for surround and heights.

The amount of sound that comes through a tower in both wide and rear channels offers double the sound from a bookshelf.

The FX's also offer more sound over the bookie due to the double tweeter which, you have the option to run alternating tweeters or simultaneous.

Now not everyone's preference is as extreme as mine as to put three sets of A9's in their set up, but If you want sound sound sound, go FX's for either height, surround or rear or all three. I guarantee you will experience the word "immersion" like never before.
post #22537 of 34670
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

LOL.... yeah, its a little too hard to do over PM to be honest lol.

I will keep throwing my head against that wall, but I am having trouble with the physical setup, as well some calibration stuff, and with a 8 month old and mom whose not super into me having cables all over the room, or running sweeps, my time is very limited.......

did you watch the youtube video?
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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

Any do's and dont's or rules to know about deciding between direct firing and bipole,, deciding between the rtia3 and fxia6.

FXIA6 allllllll the wayyyyyy! lol
post #22539 of 34670
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

FXIA6 allllllll the wayyyyyy! lol

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about smile.gif

Late in the evening, still not entirely happy with a wide configuration in this small place so...............went back to having rears, and even though the surround arrangement was on adjacent walls, having rears put us back to a "conventional" surround set up...opposing walls.

I gotta tell you, these "towers" in the rear can deliver sound like no other. I figured I'd take a few shots of the "most current" arrangement biggrin.gif













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Glad to see you put that left rear on a stand like I suggested. I couldnt imagine it would sound right tucked up in that corner in the ceiling like you had it before.
Those back surrounds are way too close to be effective. And the surrounds are not supposed to be in front of you even if they are diffused. They should be next to you or slightly behind. If you pull the couch forward 3 ft or so it will help with both of those problems.
post #22541 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

What do you want to know? What position do you have planned for them?

There's really no wrong or right or do's and don'ts. In this arena, experimentation is what gains you the result you can be happy with.

Some owners prefer direct radiating while others prefer the bipole. I love them both.

And while some prefer to have towers for mains only and then bookies everywhere else, others prefer all towers.

I have run a 7.x set up from the beginning. I've run satellites for wides, heights, surrounds and rears. I've bookies for all four, and I've run towers in three of the four positions heights being excluded.

My preference; in addition to the center (conventional) and mains (towers), towers for wide and rear, bipole for surround and heights.

The amount of sound that comes through a tower in both wide and rear channels offers double the sound from a bookshelf.

The FX's also offer more sound over the bookie due to the double tweeter which, you have the option to run alternating tweeters or simultaneous.

Now not everyone's preference is as extreme as mine as to put three sets of A9's in their set up, but If you want sound sound sound, go FX's for either height, surround or rear or all three. I guarantee you will experience the word "immersion" like never before.
Well, the way the room is setup my best options to complete the 7.x layout would be rear surround and front heights. I was thinking the rtia3 for heights and fxia6 for the rear surrounds.
My couch is up against the wall so that rules out rears in my opinion. Wides would also be a little tricky. I have to try n get pics up.

I guess i was wondering more about rules of distances, mountings vs stands, or any kind of basic mistakes people often make so i can avoid them



I just recently moved in so everything is still in the works. I have to also get a new stand for all the stuff under the tv.
The hallway n kitchen lights are phillips hue bulbs smile.gif
post #22542 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Glad to see you put that left rear on a stand like I suggested. I couldnt imagine it would sound right tucked up in that corner in the ceiling like you had it before.
Those back surrounds are way too close to be effective. And the surrounds are not supposed to be in front of you even if they are diffused. They should be next to you or slightly behind. If you pull the couch forward 3 ft or so it will help with both of those problems.

Bond, sometimes you cant set it up totally ideal. It's not always so easy as "pull the couch 3 feet out from the wall". Pulling that couch 3 feet into the room probably makes the room to small, or pisses off the wife.

Geoff knows enough that if he could set it up right he would.

I am in the same position. Due to a glass door being by my couch, and my wife not wanting the left surround where it should go, mine is out about 3 feet in front of my couch. IMHO not that big a deal.
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Glad to see you put that left rear on a stand like I suggested. I couldnt imagine it would sound right tucked up in that corner in the ceiling like you had it before.
Those back surrounds are way too close to be effective. And the surrounds are not supposed to be in front of you even if they are diffused. They should be next to you or slightly behind. If you pull the couch forward 3 ft or so it will help with both of those problems.

Bond, sometimes you cant set it up totally ideal. It's not always so easy as "pull the couch 3 feet out from the wall". Pulling that couch 3 feet into the room probably makes the room to small, or pisses off the wife.

Geoff knows enough that if he could set it up right he would.

I am in the same position. Due to a glass door being by my couch, and my wife not wanting the left surround where it should go, mine is out about 3 feet in front of my couch. IMHO not that big a deal.

Exactly! If Geoff likes HIS setup isn't that all that matters?

Bond, I truly believe you mean well and are just trying to help. But your posts come off poorly. They read as if you're "telling" what to do instead of "suggesting" what to do. IMO
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Exactly! If Geoff likes HIS setup isn't that all that matters?

Bond, I truly believe you mean well and are just trying to help. But your posts come off poorly. They read as if you're "telling" what to do instead of "suggesting" what to do. IMO
typically this means that some one is or works with an engineer.
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Originally Posted by PretzelFisch View Post

typically this means that some one is or works with an engineer.

Then I must be pretty good at what I do, as I have an engineering degree hehehe..... cause I dont think I come off like a donkey...
post #22546 of 34670
Quick cosmetic question since I won't get a chance to see them in person for a few days, I was wondering if the pictures on Amazon and EBAY of the Cherry colored Polk speakers were pretty true as far as color. That's not really what I consider a true cherry color, which is good because if they are pretty accurate to the picture then they'll match or hardwood floors really well (a good selling point to the Mrs.)!!
post #22547 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about smile.gif

Late in the evening, still not entirely happy with a wide configuration in this small place so...............went back to having rears, and even though the surround arrangement was on adjacent walls, having rears put us back to a "conventional" surround set up...opposing walls.

I gotta tell you, these "towers" in the rear can deliver sound like no other. I figured I'd take a few shots of the "most current" arrangement biggrin.gif




There is room in there for a two more pairs of RTi A9's as wide and surround speakers..............c'mon Geoff you know you want them............tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by mr266 View Post

Quick cosmetic question since I won't get a chance to see them in person for a few days, I was wondering if the pictures on Amazon and EBAY of the Cherry colored Polk speakers were pretty true as far as color. That's not really what I consider a true cherry color, which is good because if they are pretty accurate to the picture then they'll match or hardwood floors really well (a good selling point to the Mrs.)!!

Just for clarification, what Polk speaker models are your referring too? Monitors, RTi's, RTi A's, etc.?
post #22548 of 34670
Do the rtia3 or fxia6 ever go on sale?? I know the monitor series is always on sale somewhere. But just wondering about these 2
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Geoff i may be wrong but i didnt think the speaker wire was meant to be looped into that back beacket of the A9.
post #22550 of 34670
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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

Geoff i may be wrong but i didnt think the speaker wire was meant to be looped into that back beacket of the A9.

I don't have the A9s. Why would it matter? Just curious.
post #22551 of 34670
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

There is room in there for a two more pairs of RTi A9's as wide and surround speakers..............c'mon Geoff you know you want them............tongue.gif
Just for clarification, what Polk speaker models are your referring too? Monitors, RTi's, RTi A's, etc.?

Sorry, I was assuming they were all the same as far as color, but I'm looking at the RTi's.
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I have a pair of RTIA 7's in cherry that I am looking to sell, if interested, drop me a pm, thanks
post #22553 of 34670
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Glad to see you put that left rear on a stand like I suggested. I couldnt imagine it would sound right tucked up in that corner in the ceiling like you had it before.
Those back surrounds are way too close to be effective. And the surrounds are not supposed to be in front of you even if they are diffused. They should be next to you or slightly behind. If you pull the couch forward 3 ft or so it will help with both of those problems.

Actually, the sound with the FX's on adjacent walls worked out very well....experimentation will broaden your scope.

For the rears, when limited space becomes a factor, common sense should take over along with livability, this is what Enders was referring to.

With surrounds, the magical thing about the FX's is this, and anyone considering the FX should also read this;
Sit Where You Want, F/X® Series will Provide

Look at our F/X Series of loudspeakers. Note their unique wedge shape, with speaker drivers firing in opposing directions. Once I explain what the F/X Series does, you'll see the genius of this strange shape. F/X Series speakers are purpose-built surround channel loudspeakers, meant specifically for delivering surround channel information in a discrete digital 5.1 (or higher) system. Their wedge shape and opposing driver system allows them to be placed in more flexible locations without compromising the realism of their surround sound stage. For added flexibility depending upon your seating requirements, the F/X Series also features bipole/dipole audio controls.


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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

Well, the way the room is setup my best options to complete the 7.x layout would be rear surround and front heights. I was thinking the rtia3 for heights and fxia6 for the rear surrounds.
My couch is up against the wall so that rules out rears in my opinion. Wides would also be a little tricky. I have to try n get pics up.

I guess i was wondering more about rules of distances, mountings vs stands, or any kind of basic mistakes people often make so i can avoid them

Personally, I'd go FX for heights and surrounds and rears if it weren't for my A9's. Try looking at this and it should give you an idea of where to start with placement.
http://www.polkaudio.com/polk-university/articles/home-audio-speaker-placement

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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post


Geoff knows enough that if he could set it up right he would..

Thank you smile.gif

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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

Exactly! If Geoff likes HIS setup isn't that all that matters?

Why thank you smile.gif
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Originally Posted by MassConfusion View Post

Geoff i may be wrong but i didnt think the speaker wire was meant to be looped into that back beacket of the A9.

That "bracket" is the rear power port which in design is to give you allowable distance from the wall when butting up against it. I rout my cable through there to take the stress off of the plugs.
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

There is room in there for a two more pairs of RTi A9's as wide and surround speakers..............c'mon Geoff you know you want them............tongue.gif
Just for clarification, what Polk speaker models are your referring too? Monitors, RTi's, RTi A's, etc.?

If I had a 9.x capable AVR, you know I would, in fact, I just changed it from a wide configuration biggrin.gif



Don't worry my friend, in time, in time, I will have more A9's than you biggrin.gif
post #22554 of 34670
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

I don't have the A9s. Why would it matter? Just curious.
Guess it was more of a question of is there a reason y he had it like that, he already answered tho
post #22555 of 34670
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Originally Posted by panzer View Post

I have a pair of RTIA 7's in cherry that I am looking to sell, if interested, drop me a pm, thanks



I'd list those in the classified section cause these cheap bastages in here won't give you crap for them. biggrin.gif
post #22556 of 34670
I know I should post this in the amp and processor section, but was hoping to get some input here.

I can pick up either a used QSC PLX1602 (300W x 2) or a QSC GX-5 (500W x 2) for about $175 from craigslist. to run my Monitor 75T's.

I have read that the GX-5 is a low end model, but can't find a whole lot of info on the 1602. Worried about fan noise. I know both are mainly for DJ/gig work, but for the price, I was willing to give them a shot in my HT set up.

Thoughts?
post #22557 of 34670
Sorry Tim, I don't have any experience with those but I think maybe a couple on here might.
post #22558 of 34670
I was watching a movie with my rtia5's and my neighbor knocked at my door at 11:30pm saying he couldn't hear the noises but the bass from the speakers alone was rattling his whole house.

The speakers are a foot away from any wall. Is there anything i can do? It was set at 60, not sure if that is a percentage out of the box, or a sound rating . I used the calibration from my 1713.

i'd prefer not adjust the bass. Not suer if moving the speakers farther away from teh wall would help. I will probably just not watch movies at that volume anymore that late, these speakers rock though biggrin.gif
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I was watching a movie with my rtia5's and my neighbor knocked at my door at 11:30pm saying he couldn't hear the noises but the bass from the speakers alone was rattling his whole house.

The speakers are a foot away from any wall. Is there anything i can do? It was set at 60, not sure if that is a percentage out of the box, or a sound rating . I used the calibration from my 1713.

i'd prefer not adjust the bass. Not suer if moving the speakers farther away from teh wall would help. I will probably just not watch movies at that volume anymore that late, these speakers rock though biggrin.gif
post #22560 of 34670
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Originally Posted by mr266 View Post

Sorry, I was assuming they were all the same as far as color, but I'm looking at the RTi's.

Oh, I have RTi A's at home (A3's and A9's) and the pictures aren't making any justice to the cherry finish of these speakers. I can't provide you any input on the RTi's. Sorry!
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post


Don't worry my friend, in time, in time, I will have more A9's than you biggrin.gif

I'm positive about that..............wink.gif
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

I'd list those in the classified section cause these cheap bastages in here won't give you crap for them. biggrin.gif

LOL...........why are you looking at Geoff?
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