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He yelled at me for not posting the other one with him in it.
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Originally Posted by viper186 View Post

I never had any Sega consoles as a kid except Game Gear. I think someone just made this up but if it was true and Sega did come out with a new console for 2014 you can consider my mind throughly blown. Also in other news Happy B-Day to me lol.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyEhVwl2MI
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Happy BirthDay Mr. VIPER

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Originally Posted by BNestico View Post

Hooked up the csi5 last night after cleaning it up. (Dry swiffer worked like a charm, even got the dust off of the tweeter by just barely touching it) used some 12AWG speaker wire to jump the terminals together for now. I'm torn between getting the jumpers from polk (I'm irrationally anal about having things be like they came from the factory) or just buying a set of banana plugs and using speaker wire. I tested it out by playing certain chapters from The Kings Speech on BD. It sounded excellent. But I feel I'm not going to get the full effect of the upgrade until my RTi6's come in to replace my tsi300's.

I just consider the connection; A) brass or cheap gold plated piece of metal
or B) OFC speaker wire that you're already using to secure the connection between amp/AVR and speaker
If you look at higher end speakers, they come this way, like the Polks LSiM series.
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Originally Posted by pesok View Post

Also a Polkie - setup in my signature

Very nice looking sig, can we get some pics??

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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Gotta love retro gaming

To Geoff...

I went ahead and put those wides inline with the mains but not toed in. Wow. Does increase the front soundstage even more. Honestly didn't think it would. Need to rerun audessey still but for the time being increased the distance on them by a foot and boosted the output by ½ a db and it sounds fantastic. I'll get some pics up in a bit.

Very nicely done!!! Thank you for taking the time to test it out!! I had mine the same way, mains were toed in but the wides were straight. I had tried the wides toed in but got a greater effect having them straight.

The new pics look great!
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

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Originally Posted by viper186 View Post

I never had any Sega consoles as a kid except Game Gear. I think someone just made this up but if it was true and Sega did come out with a new console for 2014 you can consider my mind throughly blown. Also in other news Happy B-Day to me lol.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyEhVwl2MI
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Happy BirthDay Mr. VIPER

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Originally Posted by BNestico View Post

Hooked up the csi5 last night after cleaning it up. (Dry swiffer worked like a charm, even got the dust off of the tweeter by just barely touching it) used some 12AWG speaker wire to jump the terminals together for now. I'm torn between getting the jumpers from polk (I'm irrationally anal about having things be like they came from the factory) or just buying a set of banana plugs and using speaker wire. I tested it out by playing certain chapters from The Kings Speech on BD. It sounded excellent. But I feel I'm not going to get the full effect of the upgrade until my RTi6's come in to replace my tsi300's.

I just consider the connection; A) brass or cheap gold plated piece of metal
or B) OFC speaker wire that you're already using to secure the connection between amp/AVR and speaker
If you look at higher end speakers, they come this way, like the Polks LSiM series.
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Originally Posted by pesok View Post

Also a Polkie - setup in my signature

Very nice looking sig, can we get some pics??

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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Gotta love retro gaming

To Geoff...

I went ahead and put those wides inline with the mains but not toed in. Wow. Does increase the front soundstage even more. Honestly didn't think it would. Need to rerun audessey still but for the time being increased the distance on them by a foot and boosted the output by ½ a db and it sounds fantastic. I'll get some pics up in a bit.

Very nicely done!!! Thank you for taking the time to test it out!! I had mine the same way, mains were toed in but the wides were straight. I had tried the wides toed in but got a greater effect having them straight.

The new pics look great!

Interesting. when i had my wides i ran them toed in at a similar angle to my mains. worked out wonderfully. I am seriously considering squeezing either my monitor 60's or 40's back in the wides position. I will have to try running them with no toe and see how it works out.

oh and btw JiveTurnkey your set up looks great!
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Watched the councilor last night and noticed the separation of the front stage dramatically increase. As the camera pans left to right and hearing the sound follow. I had this before but not as pronounced.

With tax refund coming I need to buy something! Thought about an amp but honestly at the volumes I listen to I don't think it would he worth the cost. Very tempted to move up to the a9s and matching center but my ears aren't the best so I hesitate, wondering if I'd hear the difference or there would be enough of one to justify the money. There's a set of a7s on cl now for 600. Tempting.

End of the day I'll likely get tires and wheels for my jeep.
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Originally Posted by BNestico View Post

Front wide channels (as well as height) are an additional channels on some AVRs most 7.1 AVRs give the option of using the additional 2 channels for front height or wide channels rather than surround backs. If you use height or wide channels the receiver matrix 's the original 5/7.1 mix to add the additional front channels, as they are not in the original mix.


Ah. I dont think my receiver can do that frown.gif I really need to buy a new one with preouts..
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Polk is having a deal on speakers...buy $499 or more on polk speakers get free psw111 subwoofer or $300 toward a polk subwoofer. So what about a pair of tsx220 and tsx250c for center to make it over the minimum? Choice would then be either the psw111 or the psw125 for $50 extra? Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Watched the councilor last night and noticed the separation of the front stage dramatically increase. As the camera pans left to right and hearing the sound follow. I had this before but not as pronounced.

With tax refund coming I need to buy something! Thought about an amp but honestly at the volumes I listen to I don't think it would he worth the cost. Very tempted to move up to the a9s and matching center but my ears aren't the best so I hesitate, wondering if I'd hear the difference or there would be enough of one to justify the money. There's a set of a7s on cl now for 600. Tempting.

End of the day I'll likely get tires and wheels for my jeep.

Your ears would definitely hear the diff between the A9's and M70's.

I originally had M70's mains and M40 wides, but when I got my A9's and moved my M70's to wide, oh, what a difference.

The A9's present your audio with much improved detail and depth. Great upgrade.
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Originally Posted by viper186 View Post

I never had any Sega consoles as a kid except Game Gear. I think someone just made this up but if it was true and Sega did come out with a new console for 2014 you can consider my mind throughly blown. Also in other news Happy B-Day to me lol.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyEhVwl2MI

Happy birthday polkie!
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Daddy and Skye have been having fun in his office. She's learning about the "sweet" spot smile.gif



And some of her favorite selections....

Random artists MOG threw on in the car. She liked it soo much I added it to my fav's...
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Awesome, that's what I call rocking to the music.

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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Your ears would definitely hear the diff between the A9's and M70's.

I originally had M70's mains and M40 wides, but when I got my A9's and moved my M70's to wide, oh, what a difference.

The A9's present your audio with much improved detail and depth. Great upgrade.

How about between the a9s and a7s?
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

With tax refund coming I need to buy something! Thought about an amp but honestly at the volumes I listen to I don't think it would he worth the cost. Very tempted to move up to the a9s and matching center but my ears aren't the best so I hesitate, wondering if I'd hear the difference or there would be enough of one to justify the money. There's a set of a7s on cl now for 600. Tempting.
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

How about between the a9s and a7s?

A9's would require a separate power amp, no matter how powerful your AVR might be. The A7's sound okay with an AVR, but the A9's blow them away as well.
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post


A9's would require a separate power amp, no matter how powerful your AVR might be. The A7's sound okay with an AVR, but the A9's blow them away as well.

Require is a strong word. I'm sure an amp would really bring out the best but I'm sure they'd sound good with a decent avr
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Require is a strong word. I'm sure an amp would really bring out the best but I'm sure they'd sound good with a decent avr

Dont really think so man. Its like owning a Labo and trying to put 87 octane in it. Will it drive, yeah.... will it eventually be a problem, yeah......
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A9s are fine with a receiver and although nice they are no Lambo. They will provide extra depth over A7s with or without a separate amp.
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Originally Posted by Avgass View Post

A9s are fine with a receiver and although nice they are no Lambo. They will provide extra depth over A7s with or without a separate amp.

Eh, I simply see the likelyhood of clipping them rise the higher you go in the RTi line w/o a dedicated amp. How many people are never gonna crank it at some point just to see what the speakers can do? No one I know, myself included.
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Require is a strong word. I'm sure an amp would really bring out the best but I'm sure they'd sound good with a decent avr

I have A9's running with an Onkyo TX-NR929.. 135 WPC with 2ch driven.. And honestly .. with HT they sound fantastic...but i'm wanting some more volume form my system.. now with music.. I'm seriously craving more from them .. And its ok .. I knew that before going with them .. and i do plan on going with an external amp to drive them... Which is the main reason i went with an AVR with pre-outs.. but in order to get the the sound the A9's were meant to produce.. an amp is required... if you don't plan on getting a amp or AVR with pre-outs.. then i would recommend the A5's with a sub or even the A7's which too would sound better with an amp.. although .. these are the opinions of a rookie with only minimum experience
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Moving higher in the line doesn't by itself increase the risk of clipping your amplifier in any way whatsoever. The only thing that controls clipping is the volume knob. If it starts to distort, regardless of what the speakers are, then turn it down. One of my best mates has a pair of these A9s he bought on my recommendation after I took him on a tour of the local stereo shops (most of my mates ask me before buying stereo gear). I helped him set them up with an RX-V1900 (I'm running the same receiver with some JBL Ti10Ks and L Studio surrounds). To the credit of the A9s they are the deepest sounding standalone speakers I've heard without a sub and this was all running off just a receiver. My friend runs them quite loud regularly with no issues. For perspective - at home I run a pair of DIY Stereo Integrity HT18s of a CV5000 amp and also have a Rythmik F15 for my bedroom system and I have hooked my Ti10ks up to The CV5000 to check the amp when I purchased it so I know what loud is. Even after running my speakers off well over a kilowatt per channel I do not feel short changed running them off the Yamaha.

Specifications which would indicate it prudent to run a standalone amp include a very low impedance or very low sensitivity. The RTi-A9 suffers from neither of these problems.
Edited by Avgass - 2/2/14 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

Daddy and Skye have been having fun in his office. She's learning about the "sweet" spot smile.gif



And some of her favorite selections....

Random artists MOG threw on in the car. She liked it soo much I added it to my fav's...

That is way too cute!!

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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

How about between the a9s and a7s?

Definitely! The A7 has a single 6.5 midrange driver and only two woofers. The A9 has two 5.25 midrange drivers and three woofers and a separate housing to keep the tweeter/midrange separated from the woofers. The A9 is a killer speaker, I run four of them.
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post


A9's would require a separate power amp, no matter how powerful your AVR might be. The A7's sound okay with an AVR, but the A9's blow them away as well.

Always good to see you pop in from time to time Rob, hope all is going well!!

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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Require is a strong word. I'm sure an amp would really bring out the best but I'm sure they'd sound good with a decent avr

With your size room, I would "recommend" an amp to drive your A9's. They do sound awesome without however, when listening to music, they can get a bit edgy up top. I have experimented with different amounts of power to the A9's and have concluded that 300w or better takes the sharp edge off, it really smooth's out the highs.

Also, I've noticed with the A9's, they really like to go loud. You can blast them and they seem to sound even better as they get louder. This is when I would surely recommend an amp to avoid clipping.

So, small room, plenty of sound, no amp needed. Large room, big sound, amp recommended.
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Originally Posted by Avgass View Post

Moving higher in the line doesn't by itself increase the risk of clipping your amplifier in any way whatsoever. The only thing that controls clipping is the volume knob.

You are right, and that's how I read it form Enders. I read, that by moving higher in the line, you are more inclined to increase the volume.

And, as you pointed out, the A9's are neither low impedance or low sensitivity, but they are power hungry speakers, rated at 500w, these speakers are tanks and can take a ton of power, which in turn, can also take a lot of volume. If your AVR doesn't sustain the power needed to compliment the demands you're putting on the speaker, you will clip the signal.
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Not sure how beneficial the larger woofers would be for me as I already have a 15" sub to cover the lfe. I don't play it that loud either. Factoring a sub in, how big a difference are the a7s compared to the a9s in HT alone? No music at all.
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Originally Posted by Avgass View Post

Moving higher in the line doesn't by itself increase the risk of clipping your amplifier in any way whatsoever. The only thing that controls clipping is the volume knob.
Ok, let me try this again.

If I spent that much on the A9's, I would want to crank them often because I paid for some ballsy speakers so I might as well use them for that. So to me, getting better speaker means I am more likely to put the volume to 12 (which could clip them). But thats me.

Geoff runs his A9's with ridiculous power, and I would go more towards that route.

I also feel if your going to get A9's you should just factor in a amp. Otherwise go with A5's (so you can crank em just as loud) cross them over at 80hz and get a RIDICULOUS sub with the savings. Then your not double covering the same frequencies. Also since you need more power the lower a speaker digs, by cutting the A5's at 80, your allow the AVR to produce the highs better and letting the sub do what it should, the low end.

Just my take.
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Not sure how beneficial the larger woofers would be for me as I already have a 15" sub to cover the lfe. I don't play it that loud either. Factoring a sub in, how big a difference are the a7s compared to the a9s in HT alone? No music at all.

Once again, the A9 has a superior midrange of any speaker in it's series and clearly sounds better than any speaker in it's series. I did review reading with as many reviewers as I could when I was back and forth between the A9 and the A7, they all said the same thing, that the A7 fell a little short in the midrange compared to it's bigger brother.

You're welcome to come over anytime and demo my A9's.
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Originally Posted by JyveTurkey View Post

Not sure how beneficial the larger woofers would be for me as I already have a 15" sub to cover the lfe. I don't play it that loud either. Factoring a sub in, how big a difference are the a7s compared to the a9s in HT alone? No music at all.

If you've got the LFE covered, are mostly HT focused and when you do listen to music dont mind doing it as 2.1 (fronts + sub) then dont worry about it.

But I will defer to Geoff.

I run LSi's and they are a different beast.

P.S. the 7's are SOOO much smaller than the F/X's lol... I think the F/X's might be up for sale soon as I cant use both sets in the new house.
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post



Just my take.

You're full of crap Enders biggrin.gif
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I think I've settled on building a Marty sub with an 18" driver, some where around 600-800 watts. The port should help me reach down to 16hrz-18hrz. In my 12x20 room it should be enough bass.. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post



Just my take.

You're full of crap Enders biggrin.gif

if he is full of crap, what does that make you? biggrin.gif
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Check out the bird feder i made to test out some stuff before i build my new rear surround speakers. To be sanded and painted, then the girls are going to decorate it :-)

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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

if he is full of crap, what does that make you? biggrin.gif
If my grandma were alive,i think she would say that he is full of piss and vinegar :-)
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

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Happy BirthDay Mr. VIPER
I just consider the connection; A) brass or cheap gold plated piece of metal
or B) OFC speaker wire that you're already using to secure the connection between amp/AVR and speaker
If you look at higher end speakers, they come this way, like the Polks LSiM series.
Very nice looking sig, can we get some pics??
Very nicely done!!! Thank you for taking the time to test it out!! I had mine the same way, mains were toed in but the wides were straight. I had tried the wides toed in but got a greater effect having them straight.

The new pics look great!

Thank you kind sir Mr GEOFF! It is the big 3O haha.
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Originally Posted by bumprunlogan View Post

Happy birthday polkie!

Thanks fellow Polkie!
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