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post #30571 of 34766
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Originally Posted by mcarbo View Post

detailed is what I want. Harsh is what I am seeking to avoid.

Do you play at high levels (-15 dB or higher)? If so, make sure you have adequate power for your low end.
post #30572 of 34766
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post


Most Polk speakers are on the bright side. It's their detail that people look for. The LSiM series is the warmest that I've listened to in the Polk lineup (modern series). Having a detailed speaker is ideal for home theater. Music can be straining on the ears with bright speakers. This can really be dialed in and customized with equalizer settings. I figure it's better to have a detailed speaker that can be dialed in for music than a relaxed speaker that lacks presence for movies. It's an expensive hobby and a way of life for a reason. Find your own sweet spot.

 

I am very interested in the LSiM speakers... and I DO NOT like "bright" or "forward" sounding speakers...

 

Yes, I can't stand Klipsch...

 

Will I enjoy the LSiMs...?

 

:confused:

post #30573 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

I am very interested in the LSiM speakers... and I DO NOT like "bright" or "forward" sounding speakers...

 

Yes, I can't stand Klipsch...

 

Will I enjoy the LSiMs...?

 

:confused:


There's simply no way for some one else to know what you'll like. I'm not a Klipsch fan either and think the LSiM's are a far better sounding speaker. That last sentence is worth nothing until you hear a pair yourself but I would bet you will probably like them.

post #30574 of 34766
Unless you have many speakers and different lines to sample. Unfortunately, it is a lot of trial and error. I really enjoyed the monitor line, but jumping to the rti\rtia line I was totally blown away. I literally jumped watching a movie last night because I thought something was behind me to the right. It was one of those moments that put a huge smile on my face.

I would have to listen to something a bunch of times before I could drop the coin on LSI M models
post #30575 of 34766
If you pay $4000 for a pair of speakers, you're probably going to tell yourself you like them and "get used to them" regardless of your first impressions. LOL biggrin.gif
post #30576 of 34766
LSi's are by no means bright or forward..... I am still in love with mine.

No reason to upgrade at all, and if I did it would take something like a full setup of Paradigm Studio series setup to make me want to change... And that would end up costing about 5k+ which to me simply isnt worth it.

Plus my wife loves the way they look and sound. And thats worth LOTS!
post #30577 of 34766
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

If you pay $4000 for a pair of speakers, you're probably going to tell yourself you like them and "get used to them" regardless of your first impressions. LOL biggrin.gif

 

LMAO, exactly!

post #30578 of 34766
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

LSi's are by no means bright or forward..... I am still in love with mine.

No reason to upgrade at all, and if I did it would take something like a full setup of Paradigm Studio series setup to make me want to change... And that would end up costing about 5k+ which to me simply isnt worth it.

Plus my wife loves the way they look and sound. And thats worth LOTS!

 

Oh no you didn't ... :eek:

 

I am trying to decide between the LSiM set-up and the Paradigm Studio set-up!

 

LOL

post #30579 of 34766
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post
 


There's simply no way for some one else to know what you'll like. I'm not a Klipsch fan either and think the LSiM's are a far better sounding speaker. That last sentence is worth nothing until you hear a pair yourself but I would bet you will probably like them.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Jester435 View Post

Unless you have many speakers and different lines to sample. Unfortunately, it is a lot of trial and error. I really enjoyed the monitor line, but jumping to the rti\rtia line I was totally blown away. I literally jumped watching a movie last night because I thought something was behind me to the right. It was one of those moments that put a huge smile on my face.

I would have to listen to something a bunch of times before I could drop the coin on LSI M models

 

Yes, I totally agree...

 

But, according to the Polk website, there are NO dealers within 200 miles (the farthest the website searches) that carry, much less display, the LSiM series...

 

So that is why I am asking those who have heard them - their thoughts...

 

:) 

post #30580 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

 

 

Yes, I totally agree...

 

But, according to the Polk website, there are NO dealers within 200 miles (the farthest the website searches) that carry, much less display, the LSiM series...

 

So that is why I am asking those who have heard them - their thoughts...

 

:) 

 

Out of all the speakers I've owned in the past the LSiM's I had would be near the top of my favorite list. A very sweet sounding speaker. Unless you look on the used market it would be hard to do better for the price.

post #30581 of 34766
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post
 

 

Out of all the speakers I've owned in the past the LSiM's I had would be near the top of my favorite list. A very sweet sounding speaker. Unless you look on the used market it would be hard to do better for the price.

 

That you "had"... ;)

 

So, you no longer have them...?

 

What did you "upgrade" to...?

post #30582 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

That you "had"... ;)

 

So, you no longer have them...?

 

What did you "upgrade" to...?


 I'm retired with no mouths to feed and I just go through speakers as a hobby. I'm not, in general, looking for a better sound and sometimes I think a speaker I move to sounds better and sometimes not. My current speakers are a pair of Revel F30's and a pair of Magnepan 2.7QR's. If you click on "Some of my past and current audio gear" in my sig you see some of the stuff I've owned. I never took a pic of the Klipsch speakers I've owned.

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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post



Yes, I totally agree...

But, according to the Polk website, there are NO dealers within 200 miles (the farthest the website searches) that carry, much less display, the LSiM series...

So that is why I am asking those who have heard them - their thoughts...

smile.gif  

I listened to them (the LSiM 707s) at a Pacific Sales store. They were pretty impressive on just the AVR itself. They have a softer yet still detailed tweeter. They also have four way crossovers. They are pricey, but I do believe they are worth the money if they're within your budget. Once you get into the $4K per pair for floorstanders, you open up into a different class/realm of speakers. The paradigm Signature S8, Monitor Audio GX200, Klipsch Palladium... to mention a few. This is pandora's box my friend. Be careful. Find the price you "can" spend and find a speaker in that range you like.

BTW, what is your floorstanding speaker budget? Remember you still need center, surrounds, and a sub or two... eek.gif
post #30584 of 34766
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post


 I'm retired with no mouths to feed and I just go through speakers as a hobby...

Goes through speakers like socks. cool.gif
post #30585 of 34766
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post

Goes through speakers like socks. cool.gif

...and underwear. Wait...that's once a week, and speakers are twice a week. Nevermind. wink.gif
post #30586 of 34766
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post
 

 

Out of all the speakers I've owned in the past the LSiM's I had would be near the top of my favorite list. A very sweet sounding speaker. Unless you look on the used market it would be hard to do better for the price.

 

Well, I am coming for an Infinity Interlude set-up (IL60, IL36C, IL10) - so the LSiM set-up should sound like "heaven", lol  :p

 

I bought the Interludes because the IL60's each have a powered 500 Watt, 12-inch sub-woofer, integrated into them.

 

I would think that the LSiM is a more "audiophile" speaker.

post #30587 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

Oh no you didn't ... eek.gif

I am trying to decide between the LSiM set-up and the Paradigm Studio set-up!

LOL

My .02 if I was looking to buy either setup:

Polk LSiM:

Fronts: LSiM 703 w/ NICE stands (expect to spend 200 on em) or 705's
Center: LSiM 706c
Surrounds: LSiM 702f/x
Sub: Something in the 700 to 1k range either single or dual

Paradigm Studio:

Fronts: Studio 10's or 20's (both purchased with the stands made for them), Studio 60's only if you want overkill
Center: Studio CC-690 (IMHO best center on the market)
Surrounds: Studio ADP-590
Sub: Something in the 700 to 1k range either single or dual


The main lesson here is this: For what your spending, do it right and go with smaller bookshelves and then a MASSIVE sub. Best cost effective solution IMHO, while still achieving the results you want.

I haven't heard the LSiM center channel, but IMHO the contest goes to the Paradigm's.... But both are about as expensive, so you better find someone to demo either setup with prior to purchase. Also Polks ebay site does on occasion have the 703's on there. I havent seen any other model on their refurb site, so expect to pay new prices. Same with Paradigm. If going use w/ Paradigm find out what version they are as there are some Studio versions to avoid (I think they are on v6 at this point if not v7)
post #30588 of 34766
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Originally Posted by climber07 View Post


I listened to them (the LSiM 707s) at a Pacific Sales store. They were pretty impressive on just the AVR itself. They have a softer yet still detailed tweeter. They also have four way crossovers. They are pricey, but I do believe they are worth the money if they're within your budget. Once you get into the $4K per pair for floorstanders, you open up into a different class/realm of speakers. The paradigm Signature S8, Monitor Audio GX200, Klipsch Palladium... to mention a few. This is pandora's box my friend. Be careful. Find the price you "can" spend and find a speaker in that range you like.

BTW, what is your floorstanding speaker budget? Remember you still need center, surrounds, and a sub or two... eek.gif

 

Well, the set-up I am looking at is:

 

707 - fronts

706c - center

702 f/x surrounds

703 - rear surrounds

 

2 - PRO 3000 subs... (wish I could get my hands on 2 new PRO 4000....)

post #30589 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

Well, the set-up I am looking at is:

707 - fronts
706c - center
702 f/x surrounds
703 - rear surrounds

2 - PRO 3000 subs... (wish I could get my hands on 2 new PRO 4000....)

Save the money on the 707's and go with 703 or 705 instead. 707's are picky for room placement. I prefer the 703's overall as they are the cheapest and IMHO the best sounding of the three.

Also factor in an Anthem AVR if your going with Paradigm. Anthem and Paradigm are owned by the same parent company so they tend to be PERFECTLY matched for each other in regards to spec's, power, etc.
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I do have a question - and please excuse my "ignorance"...

 

But my Infinity IL60 has a frequency range of 28Hz – 22,000H...

 

It has a 500 Watt Bash powered, 12-inch, side firing, sub-woofer...

 

Now the LSIm 707 only has two 6x9 "sub-woofers" and it has a frequency range far below and far above of 20Hz - 40,000H...

 

:confused:

post #30591 of 34766
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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

Save the money on the 707's and go with 703 or 705 instead. 707's are picky for room placement. I prefer the 703's overall as they are the cheapest and IMHO the best sounding of the three.

Also factor in an Anthem AVR if your going with Paradigm. Anthem and Paradigm are owned by the same parent company so they tend to be PERFECTLY matched for each other in regards to spec's, power, etc.

I can't compare the 703's to the others, but I have heard them and they are outstanding.
post #30592 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

I do have a question - and please excuse my "ignorance"...

 

But my Infinity IL60 has a frequency range of 28Hz – 22,000H...

 

It has a 500 Watt Bash powered, 12-inch, side firing, sub-woofer...

 

Now the LSIm 707 only has two 6x9 "sub-woofers" and it has a frequency range far below and far above of 20Hz - 40,000H...

 

:confused:

Upper -3dB Limit 30 kHz

Lower -3dB Limit 38 Hz

 

That's the actual specs from their site.

post #30593 of 34766
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post
 

Upper -3dB Limit 30 kHz

Lower -3dB Limit 38 Hz

 

That's the actual specs from their site.

 

Total Frequency Response    20Hz-40kHz 
Upper -3dB Limit    30 kHz
Lower -3dB Limit    38 Hz
 
So... what does that actually mean...?
 
:confused:
post #30594 of 34766
HDTVAV, where do you live?
post #30595 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

Total Frequency Response    20Hz-40kHz 
Upper -3dB Limit    30 kHz
Lower -3dB Limit    38 Hz
 
So... what does that actually mean...?
 
:confused:


Forget the total frequency response. The actual numbers below are what the speaker is capable of. The upper limit will go higher than your hearing is capable of. The lower is how low it will go. 38Hz is good bass. Nearly all speakers will benefit from a good subwoofer. Especially for movies.  I've only owned one pair of speakers I thought I could get by without a sub.

post #30596 of 34766
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post
 


Forget the total frequency response. The actual numbers below are what the speaker is capable of. The upper limit will go higher than your hearing is capable of. The lower is how low it will go. 38Hz is good bass. Nearly all speakers will benefit from a good subwoofer. Especially for movies.  I've only owned one pair of speakers I thought I could get by without a sub.

 

OK, forgive my ignorance (again) lol...

 

But why put the total frequency response at 20 Hz - if it can only go down to 38 Hz...?

 

And how would that compare to the IL60's frequency range of 28Hz – 22,000Hz (±3dB)...?

 

:confused: 

post #30597 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

OK, forgive my ignorance (again) lol...

 

But why put the total frequency response at 20 Hz - if it can only go down to 38 Hz...?

 

:confused:


Smoke and mirrors. Most of them do it. Def. Tech is the worst.

post #30598 of 34766
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Originally Posted by Tom Grooms View Post

HDTVAV, where do you live?


You still have those 703's for sale? I gave someone a link to it but I guess they didn't bite.

post #30599 of 34766
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post
 

 

 

And how would that compare to the IL60's frequency range of 28Hz – 22,000Hz (±3dB)...?

 

:confused: 

 

If you're going to use a sub you don't need a speaker that goes to 28Hz. The sub will go lower and sound better doing it. If it's a half way decent sub.

post #30600 of 34766
Preouts has dibs in the 703's and the 702fx's. If he doesn't jump, they go to eBay soon...
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