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post #1111 of 1187
9/17/11 at 1:54pm
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has anyone replace the grills on their Opus speakers? I have the Opus 2's now for last few years and several of the tabs have broken off on the grills so it doesn't take much to knock them off.


I bought a set of EVO2 50's today and they had a second set of grills for me, the second set has metal pins. They said that the mfg knows about the design flaw and will send anyone who asks a replacement set with the metal pins. I'm guessing they would do the same for the Opus ???

It doesn't hurt to ask, the worst they can say is no
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post #1112 of 1187
9/22/11 at 8:00am
Hey all..Im a new owner of a pair of Opus 2-2 piano black speakers..Im wanting to know what xover you Opus owners are running yours @? I have mine @ 60Hz,is that good? Thanks
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post #1113 of 1187
9/29/11 at 7:46am
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Has anyone seen the new wharfedale jade series of speakers? They look amazing hopefully they will have them at rmaf this year.
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post #1114 of 1187
9/30/11 at 6:46am
http://www.avguide.com/article/wharf...ers-cedia-2011

http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics...ew/689151.html

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...le-jade-series

http://www.whathifi.com/review/wharfedale-jade-5
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post #1115 of 1187
9/30/11 at 5:38pm
Soo I am a new Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 owner. I'm always on the forums reading, but rarely post as I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as 99% of the people who post here. Thanks to everyone who posts.

I bought these from a friend who had used them for about 2 years. As soon as I got em in place about a month ago, I ran MCACC on my Pioneer vsx-23. It completed without any trouble, but there was a buzzing from one of the bass drivers. My friend knew this and tried to fix it but could not. He removed the six screws for the bottom driver on one of the speakers and misplaced em, so the driver was just sitting in its place without screws. I took it out to see what was inside, and found a small screw stuck to the magnet of the same driver. I removed it using wooden chopsticks and proceeded to place the driver back into place. The buzzing was gone, so I have been enjoying the sound since then. Today, I decided to take out 3 screws from various places from both speakers to temporarily bolt the bass driver in place. I then ran MCACC again, and it said that the right speaker was out of phase. I checked the wires; they were wired correctly. I proceeded with the calibration. After it was complete, I put on some music and noticed that this same bass driver, although vibrating, was not moving as much nor as fast as the same driver in the left speaker. I checked the connections and jumpers, all were fine. Does anyone have an idea why the right bass driver isn't pushing as hard as the left?

Btw, a few days ago, before I screwed the driver down, I was pushing the speakers pretty hard and the receiver went in to protect mode(don't know exactly what its called) and shut itself down. I'm not sure if this did any harm, but thought I'd mention it.
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post #1116 of 1187
10/14/11 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by cmiller44 View Post

Hey all..Im a new owner of a pair of Opus 2-2 piano black speakers..Im wanting to know what xover you Opus owners are running yours @? I have mine @ 60Hz,is that good? Thanks

60hz should be fine, what are you using to power the Opus? Where did you purchase them from?
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post #1117 of 1187
10/16/11 at 9:45am
Im running them off a HK pre amp,and a adcom 7500 Amp..I used a Y connector for the fronts and surrounds on the adcom 7500 its 150W per channel 5 Mono amps ,so i have 150W going to the mid and tweeter and another 150W going to the 2x 8 inch woofers..Sounds amazing.. I bought them locally ..Im saving for the Opus center now..
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post #1118 of 1187
10/19/11 at 2:27am
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Originally Posted by dannybenz View Post

Soo I am a new Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 owner. I'm always on the forums reading, but rarely post as I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as 99% of the people who post here. Thanks to everyone who posts.

I bought these from a friend who had used them for about 2 years. As soon as I got em in place about a month ago, I ran MCACC on my Pioneer vsx-23. It completed without any trouble, but there was a buzzing from one of the bass drivers. My friend knew this and tried to fix it but could not. He removed the six screws for the bottom driver on one of the speakers and misplaced em, so the driver was just sitting in its place without screws. I took it out to see what was inside, and found a small screw stuck to the magnet of the same driver. I removed it using wooden chopsticks and proceeded to place the driver back into place. The buzzing was gone, so I have been enjoying the sound since then. Today, I decided to take out 3 screws from various places from both speakers to temporarily bolt the bass driver in place. I then ran MCACC again, and it said that the right speaker was out of phase. I checked the wires; they were wired correctly. I proceeded with the calibration. After it was complete, I put on some music and noticed that this same bass driver, although vibrating, was not moving as much nor as fast as the same driver in the left speaker. I checked the connections and jumpers, all were fine. Does anyone have an idea why the right bass driver isn't pushing as hard as the left?

Btw, a few days ago, before I screwed the driver down, I was pushing the speakers pretty hard and the receiver went in to protect mode(don't know exactly what its called) and shut itself down. I'm not sure if this did any harm, but thought I'd mention it.

Technically you shouldn't see the drivers move at all unless they are under powered by your amp. That usually indicates that there isn't enough control over the driver by the amplifier. Going into protect mode is bad, be careful - sounds like you are underpowered and overdriving. Grab a UPA-2 from emotiva if you are on a budget to power those bad boys.
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post #1119 of 1187
10/31/11 at 11:13pm
I have a pair of Modus one six towers that is now in a two channel set-up for music. I want to move them into my HT setup and get a new center channel speaker. Is the Evo Centre a good match for the Modus towers? Modus centers don't seem to be available.

Modus towers are 8 ohms with 90dB sensitivity. Evo centre is 8 ohms with 89dB sensitivity, so these specs are compatible.

Thanks for any advice.
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post #1120 of 1187
11/15/11 at 3:19pm
Just wondering if anyone has pics of maple Wharfedale Evo2's "in the wild"...
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post #1121 of 1187
11/29/11 at 5:43am
If anyone's interested, it looks like some old stock has hit ebay. I found some powercube DX12 subs and the like recently. Shame they didn't have one in rosewood, I would have pounced.

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post #1122 of 1187
12/1/11 at 10:21am
I just unpacked my first set of Waferdalel speakers, 10.1!!! I love the sound from these little, beautifully, speakers. Art and performance in one package, ahhh.
I have a Question that involves amplification and performance.
I'm going to leave out the specs of my Amp at this point on purpose to see if your thoughts, are the same as mine as to my problem.

When I first hoked up the 10.1's, I would get cracking and some distortion at mid volume levels in the lower frequency range. Using the clock scale on the volume knob (6:00 being volume off and 4:00 being volume high, 11:00 loud and 1:00 is as high as I have ever driven the amp, and mid volume would be 9:00-10:00.) I would turn the loudness switch off and this would help, but as I would turn the volume up to bring back some of the power, the problem would reappear. The bass, mid-range and treb. were all set at 0. I do run a 12 band frequency equalizer with the settings at or just above 0, and with a small amount of gain added. bringing the gain down would help with the distortion but of coarse the power would drop. when I bring the power back up, the cracking would start.

I have two speaker out jacks, one and two. The Waferdales are hooked up to #1 and I have a 12" sub hooked up to #2. The woofer has a built in crossover for speaker hook up. After I hooked up the Waferdales to the subwoofer out jacks. the cracking stopped and the power ability of these 10.1 speakers rose dramatically, up to 11:00 with clear sound and just a hint of (don't push me further, coming from the Waferdals) My amp is a vintage amp with an 8 ohm recommendation for speakers. the power out put is well with in the specs of my 10.1's. But of coarse my equalizer gain feature adds power to the amps out put. I have been running this combination for more then twenty years with no problem. I didn't get larger waferdales for fear of not having an amp capable of driving them.

I don't know what the effect of a 6ohm speaker has on an 8ohm amp. so an answer to that would be great. I would all so appreciate thoughts on what some of the reasons would be for a speaker to be driven to cracking and distortion at mid and upper volumes. My guess is ether the 6ohm on a 8ohm amp, over powering the speakers, or a combination of both.
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post #1123 of 1187
12/2/11 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by ZOOM ZOOM View Post

I just unpacked my first set of Waferdalel speakers, 10.1!!! I love the sound from these little, beautifully, speakers. Art and performance in one package, ahhh.
I have a Question that involves amplification and performance.
I'm going to leave out the specs of my Amp at this point on purpose to see if your thoughts, are the same as mine as to my problem.

When I first hoked up the 10.1's, I would get cracking and some distortion at mid volume levels in the lower frequency range. Using the clock scale on the volume knob (6:00 being volume off and 4:00 being volume high, 11:00 loud and 1:00 is as high as I have ever driven the amp, and mid volume would be 9:00-10:00.) I would turn the loudness switch off and this would help, but as I would turn the volume up to bring back some of the power, the problem would reappear. The bass, mid-range and treb. were all set at 0. I do run a 12 band frequency equalizer with the settings at or just above 0, and with a small amount of gain added. bringing the gain down would help with the distortion but of coarse the power would drop. when I bring the power back up, the cracking would start.

I have two speaker out jacks, one and two. The Waferdales are hooked up to #1 and I have a 12" sub hooked up to #2. The woofer has a built in crossover for speaker hook up. After I hooked up the Waferdales to the subwoofer out jacks. the cracking stopped and the power ability of these 10.1 speakers rose dramatically, up to 11:00 with clear sound and just a hint of (don't push me further, coming from the Waferdals) My amp is a vintage amp with an 8 ohm recommendation for speakers. the power out put is well with in the specs of my 10.1's. But of coarse my equalizer gain feature adds power to the amps out put. I have been running this combination for more then twenty years with no problem. I didn't get larger waferdales for fear of not having an amp capable of driving them.

I don't know what the effect of a 6ohm speaker has on an 8ohm amp. so an answer to that would be great. I would all so appreciate thoughts on what some of the reasons would be for a speaker to be driven to cracking and distortion at mid and upper volumes. My guess is ether the 6ohm on a 8ohm amp, over powering the speakers, or a combination of both.

You really cant overpower your speakers if you play them at decent levels. Underpowering speakers can be damaging. It's probably the amp not able to handle the 6 ohlm speakers plus the subwoofer. The EQ is fine. You didn't say if the amp was separate or a receiver. You could use the amp just for the subwoofer and get something better for the wharfedales
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post #1124 of 1187
12/3/11 at 5:55am
Simonf- Thanks, I have read a lot about under powering speakers, and find it a little perplexing to understand. My amp is a Marantz 2238 receiver, 38 watts per channel. I thought my amp would be ok for speakers rated at 20-100 watts. When some one can state under powering as a cause with out knowing the amps power out put in this scenario... Impressive.

I have also read a lot about, power amps over receivers as a preferred way for speakers ( another Item you asked about). Would it be ok to use the pre-amp of the Marantz 2238 to run a power amp? Other wise I may use the pre-amp of my Marantz 1070.

looking back through these boards for the 10.1 Wharfedales I have found many amp recommendations. thanks to all who have posted these.I would post that some of us need that help, but my wife has been telling me for 30+ years that I need help.
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post #1125 of 1187
12/3/11 at 7:50am
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Just wondering if anyone has pics of maple Wharfedale Evo2's "in the wild"...

I have a EVO2 Center,just not in maple..wonderful center,blends great with my Opus 2-2
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post #1126 of 1187
12/3/11 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by cmiller44 View Post

I have a EVO2 Center,just not in maple..wonderful center,blends great with my Opus 2-2

Thanks for the pics.... The rosewood sure is nice!
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post #1127 of 1187
12/3/11 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by ZOOM ZOOM View Post

Simonf- Thanks, I have read a lot about under powering speakers, and find it a little perplexing to understand. My amp is a Marantz 2238 receiver, 38 watts per channel. I thought my amp would be ok for speakers rated at 20-100 watts. When some one can state under powering as a cause with out knowing the amps power out put in this scenario... Impressive.

I have also read a lot about, power amps over receivers as a preferred way for speakers ( another Item you asked about). Would it be ok to use the pre-amp of the Marantz 2238 to run a power amp? Other wise I may use the pre-amp of my Marantz 1070.

looking back through these boards for the 10.1 Wharfedales I have found many amp recommendations. thanks to all who have posted these.I would post that some of us need that help, but my wife has been telling me for 30+ years that I need help.

You can do that. The amp has a hard time running the sub and speakers together. There are great receivers for home theater and music. My system is separates for music and I use a receiver for home theater somehow all hooked up together. http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphoto.php/photo/31490
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post #1128 of 1187
12/3/11 at 6:20pm
I've been sitting on brand new Wharfedale Diamond 10.0 speakers for over a year because I was slow to get an amplifier for it, but I had to buy the speakers when I did because I had reward credits from my home theater speaker purchase that were going to expire. Today, I finally hooked up the speakers after getting the amplifier, a used Virtue TWO.2. The speakers are part of what will eventually be a 2.1 setup for my computer once I buy a Rythmik subwoofer for my home theater and move my TSC T100 subwoofer to the computer.

I'm still breaking in the Diamond 10.0, but there is no comparison in sound quality to the Altec computer speaker system I had. Not long after I put together my home theater two years ago, I knew the next audio system that needed an overhaul was my computer. The soundstage and clarity from the Diamond 10.0 is very nice and consequently, I don't mind the lack of bass right now from not running a subwoofer. It's always fun to hear new details that you haven't heard from your previous audio setup, and considering what I came from previously, I knew I was going to hear a lot of new details.

One of the reasons I went for the Diamond 10 series was its looks. The aluminum rings around the drivers and piano black front face matches the brushed aluminum frame and glass base of my 27" Dell UltraSharp monitor. If I had more desk space, I would have liked to get the 10.1.

Quick and dirty photo from my phone:

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post #1129 of 1187
12/7/11 at 5:45am
Thinking about picking up a pair of evo2-30's and the eveo2 center since they are on clearance on music direct right now. Currently I have a pair of energy CF-30's that i got for half off during last year's sales. However I have never been too impressed with them. The sound is kind of harsh and overall just very flat, not very engaging at all. Never heard the evo-30's before, but i'd be willing to take a risk. I've been a fan of other british speakers I've heard in the past.

I'd be using a pioneer VSX-1020 to drive the speakers. It's rated at 125 W per channel for 6ohm speakers. Do you think I would run into any issues with this setup?
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post #1130 of 1187
12/7/11 at 7:19am
Get them..you will love them..and your Pioneer will be fine pushing those EVO2's..music direct is great..call them with any ? you have..they are very helpful..there having free shipping right now also..
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post #1131 of 1187
12/7/11 at 7:28am
Thanks for the response cmiller! Hopefully this deal will stick around until after the holidays. Wife will kill me if i purchase this before christmas haha.
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post #1132 of 1187
12/8/11 at 5:38pm
My first NEW system in about 30 years. New Emotiva xpa-3 to go with my Wharfedale 10.1. the third channel of the xpa-3 is driving my sub. went with the Bi-Wiring for the Wharfedals. Very Happy with the sound.
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post #1133 of 1187
12/13/11 at 8:01pm
Just want to thank the contributors to this thread. After reading about Wharfedales on this forum I picked up a pair of EVO2-50's from music direct for way less than what they were asking for the Diamond 10.7's. I'd say it's the best deal currently on the web.

After a week with the EVO2-50's I'd say they perform as specified (I haven't done any measurements though), they're a very musical speaker.....which to me means that they don't have much coloration or more bluntly, designed in distortion. I'd say their tonal balance is just a slight bit on the warm side of neutral. I'd rather have a speaker be a little warm than a little bright or harsh.

The dome mid-range is excellent, probably the best aspect of this model. It's definitely helped by seamless voicing of the crossovers, which is the main worry I had with ordering a 4-way speaker without first auditioning them. I prefer the tweeter of the EVO2-50's to the ones on my B&W CM1's - the CM1's are just too bright for my taste. On the low-end, I'd say their response is surprisingly flat, with very good low-end extension and no noticeable port whistle. No sub needed for music, but for a lot of movie duty, I'd recommend one.

Cabinet quality and finish is above average of what you'd expect in the price range - with one caveat, mine arrived with nearly half the tabs on the speaker grills broke off. Not a big deal since I usually have my grills off anyway.

Bottom line, if you're looking for an exceptional value in a European designed speaker, check out the EVO2-50's. Thanks again.
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post #1134 of 1187
12/14/11 at 9:08am
How do the 10.2's sound up against a wall being back ported? I was looking at getting a pair of 9.2's, but they're ridiculously hard to get in Australia. Should I just get the 10.2's instead, or will they sound worse than the 9.2's (against a wall)?
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post #1135 of 1187
12/14/11 at 10:58am
Musicdirect has the new Jade series in. Do not look at the price if you are faint of heart.
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post #1136 of 1187
12/14/11 at 1:22pm
Stereofella,

In this life you must be brave.
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post #1137 of 1187
12/16/11 at 12:17am
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Technically you shouldn't see the drivers move at all unless they are under powered by your amp. That usually indicates that there isn't enough control over the driver by the amplifier. Going into protect mode is bad, be careful - sounds like you are underpowered and overdriving. Grab a UPA-2 from emotiva if you are on a budget to power those bad boys.

Thanks! As per your reccomendation, i went with emotiva but grabbed two upa-1's. I was a bit reluctant to spend double the amount of money on amps than the speakers they will be powering, it was well worth it. I dont think i'll ever go back to running florsaltanders off of an avr again. The system sounds awesome for what i spent on it. Now i just need another upa-1 for the 9.cm....
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post #1138 of 1187
12/19/11 at 1:43pm
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Thanks! As per your reccomendation, i went with emotiva but grabbed two upa-1's. I was a bit reluctant to spend double the amount of money on amps than the speakers they will be powering, it was well worth it. I dont think i'll ever go back to running florsaltanders off of an avr again. The system sounds awesome for what i spent on it. Now i just need another upa-1 for the 9.cm....

Glad to hear it! These speakers love Class AB amps, I have yet to try class D with them, but have tried pure A, tube, and IC LM3886 amps, but nothing gets them going like a good AB - I believe it's the 'current' that these speakers need the most, not pure power in Watts.

Now you just need a good DAC - look for something with a really clean signal, the SABRE chips are a great pairing. Anedio D1 or Eastern Electric minimax DAC are solid for the money and go well with the dome tweeter.
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post #1139 of 1187
12/21/11 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by soulrider4ever View Post

Glad to hear it! These speakers love Class AB amps, I have yet to try class D with them, but have tried pure A, tube, and IC LM3886 amps, but nothing gets them going like a good AB - I believe it's the 'current' that these speakers need the most, not pure power in Watts.

Now you just need a good DAC - look for something with a really clean signal, the SABRE chips are a great pairing. Anedio D1 or Eastern Electric minimax DAC are solid for the money and go well with the dome tweeter.

Its great that you bring the dac thing up as I've been meaning to ask around about this. I like to run my digital music in stereo mode to take advantage of the subwooffer and mcacc room correction on my pioneer vsx-23txh. By running the receiver in anything other than pure direct, wouldnt the analog audio coming out of an external dac convert back to digital then back to analog using the onboard dacs to apply room correction/bass management, therefore defeating the whole purpose of using one in the first place?
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12/26/11 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by stereofella View Post

Musicdirect has the new Jade series in. Do not look at the price if you are faint of heart.

I'm actually considering getting a pair...Jade 1 or 3
anybody had a listen to these beauties yet?

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