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post #1261 of 1291
Looking to get some Diamond 10.1's for my downstairs. Its a smaller room and I have a small amp. I hooked up some Evo2-10's and they sounded great. But their too big for mounting on the wall as these will be. But I haven't actually heard the 10's, I've heard the Diamond 9's and I have several other Wharfedale speakers. I've read where most think the 10's sound better overall than the 9's did. Any confirmations?
If I don't like them I'll send them back but not to worried about that. I think Wharfedale makes the best home speaker for the $.
post #1262 of 1291
yes because 10.1 is front ported whereas 9.1 is rear ported which can give boomy bass.

there might be otger changes
post #1263 of 1291
The 10.1 is rear ported.
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Originally Posted by joker97 View Post

yes because 10.1 is front ported whereas 9.1 is rear ported which can give boomy bass.

there might be otger changes
post #1264 of 1291
oops sorry. getting old and confused nowadays ...

in that case i cannot say whether there is any (noticable) sonic improvements. the reviews don't seem to pay much attention to the 10.1.
post #1265 of 1291

hello guys.

 

Can somebody give me advice. Which speakers should I get? 

 

I have two options. 

 

Wharfedale crystal 3 vs diamond 10.

 

I have no idea which is better. I will be connecting them with yamaha rx775.

 

which set should I get for my home cinema? 

post #1266 of 1291
Looking at th specs diamond is better. Never seen crystals around our forests here.
post #1267 of 1291
@ Newsav; +1 to joker with his comments, "Long story is any doubling in watts will only give you an extra 3dB headroom."
All you need is enough watts to push the speakers eficently. her is one more thing to consider. Lets use the Onkyo that you mentioned as an EX.,
Ex:
In the Onkyo tx-nr525 specs:
80 W/Ch (8 Ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, 0.7% THD, 2 Channels Driven),

most Wharferdales will have a 6ohm imp. This means that the Onkyo will deliver more watts at 6ohms. I own an emotiva amp that has the following specs.
330 watts RMS @ 4 ohm (<0.1% THD)
200 watts RMS @ 8 ohm (<0.1% THD)

And I don't think you need to wory about using 4 or 6ohm speakers with any moderen amp built these days.
Edited by ZOOM ZOOM - 11/23/13 at 5:39pm
post #1268 of 1291
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Originally Posted by joker97 View Post

Looking at th specs diamond is better. Never seen crystals around our forests here.
+1
Diamonds have taken many awards for price and sound.

here is a link to one of many reviews on the 10.1.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/wharfedale-diamond-101-loudspeaker
Edited by ZOOM ZOOM - 11/23/13 at 5:44pm
post #1269 of 1291

joker97

@ ZOOM ZOOM

 

Many thanks for Your help!

I'll go with Denon avr x1000 for my Wharfedales.

post #1270 of 1291
A few months ago, I got my 5.1 Wharfedale system: 10.1s, 10 SRs, the 10 SX, and the 10 CS center.

I wasn't happy with the CS center so I ended up returning it and replacing it with another Diamond 10.1. Of course, I had to buy a pair to get the 10.1 but I ended up much happier because I do love the 10.1s. Now I love the whole system!

But has anyone else run into a similar issue? Anyone need a 10.1? smile.gif
post #1271 of 1291
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Originally Posted by JayS99 View Post

All,


Recently my SW250 stopped working.. nothing connection-wise had changed. I checked and saw the fuse was blown. I picked up a couple of replacement fuses, but they're blowing the instant power is reapplied. I tried to call Bob or Walter at Sound Import but no one is answering right now.


Anyone have any similar experiences with the fuses blowing?


Jay S.

Hi,
I have the exact same problem with my sw250. Did you ever get your problem resolved?

Thanks,
Roopak
post #1272 of 1291
I'm currently looking for a sub to pair with my Diamond 10.5's, 10.1's, and 10CM. Based on my research I'm down to the Rythmik LVR12 and the HSU VTF-2 MK4. Any thoughts on how either would pair with the Diamonds?

Basement Specifications
•22.5 x 11 x 7.5 (feet)
•Complete light control
•Carpet
post #1273 of 1291
Hi All.
I need some input. I have a Mirage 7.1 system with OMD -15 OMD c1 center and omnisats foe rears,OS3 for sides. I'm finding as I get older(60) the Mirage are a little too laid back. I use an Onkyo txnr 3009. Would the Wharfdale 10.5 ,10 cm center be more detailed,dynamic? This system is used for TV and movies no music excepy for concert videos at loud levels. I live in an area with virtually no audio dealers. Alternatives would be highly welcome. Also. are these speakers vinyl or veneer?

Thanks for any input.
Howard
Edited by Zaxdad - 1/5/14 at 3:49pm
post #1274 of 1291
i have no idea what the sound of the mirage is nor what you mean by laid back

the diamonds are dark-warm speakers. boomish bass and deep bass and strong midrange, hopeless treble.

the 10.5 - cm combo will by very good for movies. the dome midrange is very dominating around the 2-4kHz - not so good for music but for home theatre would be perfect.
post #1275 of 1291
oh you asked about detailed/dynamic.

the diamonds are very detailed for its price but at the cost of mainly balance and some clarity. again i have no idea about the mirage.

dynamic - no idea what you mean. they will present what the source and DAC and amplifier puts into it. there shouldn't be a problem with loudness and explosions. the bass is a bit boomy but for home theatre again it will be perfect.
post #1276 of 1291
I'm considering 10.1's for my living room HT setup. Its mainly a 2.1 setup ATM with a polk sub. I mostly use it for movies, Direct TV, and PS3(blu-ray). I'm using my TV speakers so anything will be an updrade. I also like to stream music to my AVR. How will the 10.1 deal with dialogue and voice clarity? From what I read here, they're not so great with treble. I'll eventually get a center, maybe even another 10.1 as a center. Also are 10.2's worth the extra money? Do they perform better in terms of treble? I'm also considering Cambridge Audio s30's.
post #1277 of 1291
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Originally Posted by JoeBloggz View Post

I'm considering 10.1's for my living room HT setup. Its mainly a 2.1 setup ATM with a polk sub. I mostly use it for movies, Direct TV, and PS3(blu-ray). I'm using my TV speakers so anything will be an updrade. I also like to stream music to my AVR. How will the 10.1 deal with dialogue and voice clarity? From what I read here, they're not so great with treble. I'll eventually get a center, maybe even another 10.1 as a center. Also are 10.2's worth the extra money? Do they perform better in terms of treble? I'm also considering Cambridge Audio s30's.


I love my 10.1s for both music and movies. And I replaced the CS center with an additional 10.1.

But I'm a noobie and I'd love to hear some other, more experienced opinions.

(I also wonder if you'd get more response in a broader speaker thread?)
post #1278 of 1291
Sorry I haven't read the entire thread, but had a "quick" question.
I am looking to replace my current 5.1 setup (Harman Kardon HKTS18) with the following,

Diamond 10.1 fronts (possibly 121s depending on when I get to purchase)
10.cs Center (again perhaps the newer center 101c)
2 10 sx subs

Questions
1) Do I replace the CS with another 10.1?
2) How would the two sub system improve or detract from my 1 sub setup now? (current sub is listed as a 10" 200 watt sub)
3) can i drive all this with a Marantz SR6006?

I am thinking about adding surround speakers later (or moving the 10.1s to the back and getting larger fronts - at which time I'll have to look at the power issue again)
Still new to good speakers, so just wanted to get some advice.

Thanks!
post #1279 of 1291

Hey guys, I got a question to owners of the 100 series. I personally have a pair of 122 and I love their sound, unfortunately I do notice that their quality control is a bit lacking, I can notice some issues with some finishes on mine however I am still considering getting a pair of 159 and I'd like to know if anyone else has some more serious issues with this series?

 

I've checked at some retail stores around here with other some other 100 series and they seem to have the same issue as mine which is something I can live with but the review of the 155s from What Hi*Fi is worrisome (link here), and shows problems that I don't have or have seen at retail stores.

 

I'd like to add that I got my 122s about 1 month after they were available for sale, I got a sweet promotion from my retailer, I was originally going to get the 10.2.

 

I'm interested in getting the 159s to replace my front speakers given that they seem to have a strong bass, if anyone has anything to say about these please do so, I'd love some feedback on them :)

 

Also worth mentioning is that despite the problems on the finishes I do not see any problems with the drive units or any issues with sound.

post #1280 of 1291
So anyone really interested in a pair of real beat up, but real cheap, Opus 2s might want to take a look at these.

Not mine, not connected to me, I have no interest in them. As always, YMMV...

Seggers

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHARFEDALE-OPUS-2-2-HIGH-END-AUDIOPHILE-TOWER-SPEAKERS-PROJECT-PARTS-REPAIR-/400662259394?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
post #1281 of 1291
Hey guys, posted a thread in the main speakers forum - having issues with a lack of bass output from my Sapphire SP-89s. Although I can fiddle with the signal in (via EQ) to get them to put out a "balanced" amount of bass, under normal circumstances,

Thread is here, and I am stumped.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1519955/problem-with-bass-from-wharfedale-3-way-towers

Anyone else encounter anything similar? Really too bad as I love the sound quality from the mids and tweeters.....
post #1282 of 1291
Gotta say I'm impressed.

Got in touch with the US distributor of Wharfedale, and he actually called me today to discuss my problems (quality job, Walter).

His thoughts were that something has gone off spec in the speakers - either the woofers or the crossover, and he gave me some tips for things to look at.

From my perspective, to get a call for an older model like this (12-15 years old) to try and help an owner out is above and beyond what I've seen from any other company other than Stanton. At the end of the day, I'll still have to do the legwork myself, but appreciate the company taking the time.
post #1283 of 1291
Good to hear Scooter - hope you get 'em singing again!
post #1284 of 1291
Thanks CC - after some disassembly last night, looks like all the drivers are in spec, and the speaker as a whole is.

Looks like I'm losing bass due to placement and wall treatment, and I can't do much about it other than swap out speakers. The mid in these is just so "hot" that I can't boost the bottom section of the speakers without the mid gaining as well.

Ach! Just can't seem to let the issue go. New post in the speaker forum - wonder if someone's fiddled with the crossover....
Edited by ScooterMcTavish - 2/28/14 at 5:55pm
post #1285 of 1291

Hello all I am hoping you guys can help me finish my home theater set. I am looking for a pair of "WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 8.4" or "WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 8.3" speakers (I would prefer the 8.4's). I already own the Diamond 8 center and 8.2 speakers just need to find the towers. I am hoping to find them in the USA (for shipping reasons).

post #1286 of 1291
My ebay feed has Wharfedale as a search term and I don't see any. However, I did stumble scross this link, that may, or may not, help you:

http://www.seesimilar.com/search.php?query=Wharfedale&cid=4146&gclid=CP-E8YW6-7wCFUuXOgodX3AAJQ

As always, YMMV....

Seggers
post #1287 of 1291

Bumping my post in hopes someone knows someone who would like to sell 8)

post #1288 of 1291
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScooterMcTavish View Post

Thanks CC - after some disassembly last night, looks like all the drivers are in spec, and the speaker as a whole is.

Looks like I'm losing bass due to placement and wall treatment, and I can't do much about it other than swap out speakers. The mid in these is just so "hot" that I can't boost the bottom section of the speakers without the mid gaining as well.

Ach! Just can't seem to let the issue go. New post in the speaker forum - wonder if someone's fiddled with the crossover....

Hey guys,

Realize this is a long shot, but does anyone have the schematics for the Sapphire line? I talked with the US distributor, but no dice.

Since the speakers test in spec, I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the crossover. However, without a schematic, it's a little tough to check.
post #1289 of 1291
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScooterMcTavish View Post

Hey guys,

Realize this is a long shot, but does anyone have the schematics for the Sapphire line? I talked with the US distributor, but no dice.

Since the speakers test in spec, I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the crossover. However, without a schematic, it's a little tough to check.

And cancel that.

So I hooked up a newly acquired pair of JBLs last night, and could not believe how boxy and artificial the mids were. Nothing like the realistic and open mids on the Wharfedales.

So, instead of running one long wire through both sets of posts on the Wharfies, I put a jumper on the speaker, and hook up one section. I also disassembled the speakers, and matched the woofers - one tower now has 2 x 1751 and one tower has two 1751H drivers in it.

Well, hello bass. Not as much as the 8" in the JBLs, but finally some proper extension, and proper low notes coming from the front ports.

So I have no idea where the lack of bass was - I tried bi-amping (through reassigning my rear surround channels to the front), and a normal hook up with the bare wire through both sets of binding posts, and neither was producing bass. However, swapping the drivers, and using a jumper plate suddenly produces bass. What gives?

Regardless, the JBLs are now being reassigned to stereo duty on my vintage system in the basement.
Edited by ScooterMcTavish - 3/13/14 at 5:57am
post #1290 of 1291
I am considering adding a small sub to my home theater. I plan to add the Diamond 10.SX. Are those of you who own this sub happy with it?
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