Knoxville, TN - HDTV - Page 61

Yes! With no regrets.

Clay,

I doubt an alternate amplifier would resolve your reception issues. You'll just need to play with the positioning until you find a position that works for you.

And you are correct that getting it outside would help. The presence of the roof is probably producing many of your dead spots.

- Trip

They can be a PITB sometimes but I don't know of another option that would work for me as well. I stick with the basic package and yes, it gets more expensive by the year. Although, from my old days of living in OR, I still remember Tennessee Cable and I sure don't want to go back to that.

I'm not receiving Comcast channel 387 Investigation Discovery HD on my cablecard-equiped TiVo, so I did an on-line chat to see why. They said that channel wasn't available, and transferred me to sales to see how I could get it. Sales said ID was only available in SD on channel 111.

So the new channels might be 'Available' in parts of Knoxville, but still not all parts. At least not in Fountain City.

Looks like we are getting the 4 digit HD channel numbers in February, also apparently anybody that doesn't have the new lineup should have it by February 1st, 2012 because it says the new channel lineups is effective for City of Knoxville, Knox County, Blount County, Blaine, Rockford, Union County, City of Maynardville, Luttrell, Kodak, City of Sevierville, Sevier County, and Jefferson County. The insert I received with my bill is attached below, and shows updated pricing and channel lineup.

Thanks for posting that! What is the deal with 4 digit HD channels?

They are developing a Master Channel Lineup for all areas, more info below at this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...ostcount=10446

I know Comcast in Nashville, TN got the 4 digit HD channels not to long back.

Eventually all those channel numbers being added to the HD channels in the 1000s will be the channel number for the SD counterpart channel without the 1 in front of them (3 digits). The HD channel numbers in the 300s/400s currently will be removed at some point probably when they start moving the SD channels to those slots. Some of the channels numbers below 99 though might not be removed right away or might remain a second channel number for a while.

Ah... they are sort of doing a Dewey Decimal system for TV.

I like that - the channel organization is a mess now. And if it's national, it will be easier on messageboards or Facebook to say "check out the show tonight on Comcast XXXX".

Trip,

I moved the yagi boom antenna around and never found WATE. But I did managed to lose both WTNZ, and WVLT. So today I took down the yagi and connted up a much small RCA ANT751, with the pre-amp. I was able to get all the channels I had and I found a sweet spot for WATE though I lose WTNZ and WVLT. So the current plan is to get anohter ANT751 and another pre-amp to get WATE. And maybe point the yagi at Nashville and see if we can get anything there. That is a job for another weekend.

Any suggestions on combining the signals from two or maybe three antennas? Thanks for the help.

Clay

Trip can speak better on this than I can, but you might want to look into a JoinTenna. It's a box for two antenna connections - one that isolates a single frequency/channel to one antenna, and the other antenna all frequencies but that one are passed through. Then it combines both to a single output.

Here's an example from Warren Electronics.

You would have a much better chance of receiving Chattanooga than Nashville from your location in Farragut. Most of the Nashville stations are gone by the time they reach Crossville.


Glad to hear you have found success, even if it is in a limited fashion. The JoinTenna would be the best way if you needed it for a single channel, but truly the best bet is to find a single antenna position that works for you. I know you do not want to take it outside, but I suspect doing so would resolve your issues and could potentially allow you to ditch the pre-amp entirely. I am willing to bet that all of your problems can be traced to either building penetration issues or multipath, or both.

- Trip

It's hard for many people to understand that multipath is still a problem when they no longer see any ghosting and the receiver only says "no signal" when it really means "unusable signal". It's also the most likely probable cause of unstable signal levels as the tuner tries to compensate for reflections.

And going up $2 here and $2 there for most everything. I'm glad I don't fool with that every year.

First time posting here, but long time reading. In North Knoxville near St. Mary's. I got the new Comcast channels around Christmas, except GSN HD and The Hub HD. Both say "Not authorized." Tech support said they should be in my channel package (I have Digital Preferred), but had no idea why I wasn't getting them, despite sending several reset signals to my boxes.

I am getting a 'Not Authorized' message on the following channels:
283 DIYHD
285 GSNHD
287 HUBHD
394 TENNISHD*
472 BTNHD*
*Not getting in SD either but the lineup I posted earlier shows these channels as included in Digital Preferred or SEP

I was told that they were temporarily taken down and they didn't have an ETA when they would be back up...

I did a guided setup again on my TiVo, and I'm not getting the above, or most of the new channels, like Investigation Discovery HD and WGN-HD on my Comcast Digital Preferred account. I'm getting guide data for these, and TiVo thinks I should be getting them, but all I see is the "channel not available" pop-up.

As much as I have ragged on WVLT in recent months, I must say I am pleasantly surprised by how they have improved their video quality in recent weeks on both channels. Most of the macroblocking is gone and the picture is much clearer than it was for some time. I still would like to see both at 1080i, but I'm not going to get too greedy.

I lean to the theory that 720p is the better broadcast format. I think it's easier to get right. The only 1080i channels that I've seen that did football well are in Dallas, at my brother's house, and indie channel 7 before the darkside consumed it and spat it out as RTV. They did HD high school football. It was single camera but it was a damn good camera! I never saw motion artifacts. WBIR always has it's glitches during football. It's NOTHING like the bad old days of 1080i WVLT but you notice it now and then.

The CBS station in Dallas has AWESOME 1080i football. It can be done right. Nobody, locally, does 1080i right. If channel 7 does or can, you wouldn't know it now with the sludge they run.

Hey, we live in Cheapville... I concur, 8 has made gradual progress. I saw occasional artifacts on 8.2 when they had SEC Basketball on there, must'a been Saturday...but that's how 8.1 used to look, or worse.

I think if 8 went back to 1080i, they'd have to dial back 8.2 to 480 i or p...? ....due to bandwidth limitations.

I tried the antenna outside yesterday, and got no joy for the most part. I was able to pick up 20 WB but could not get consistent signal from anything but 10 and 7 with or without the preamp. This was from one spot on the roof where a dish was installed long before I moved into the house so not much playing around with position. I think being on a hill but in a low spot on that hill with houses above mine on all but one side might be giving me more multi-path issues outside, but again this is not my area and I am just guessing.

Hopefully if one day is pretty this weekend I will take the antenna up and to a place where I can move it around a little, and see what kind of signal I can get.

Thanks again for giving me a direction to go, on working this out.

Clay

Did anyone with Comcast in Knoxville get the HD channels replicated in the 1000s range on Feb. 1st? I didn't get them here in fact my HD box is still programmed to only tune in 3-digit channel numbers. I notice both the Comcast lineup on http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/tv-listings and http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlisti...upId=TN41469:L have not been updated to show them either...

However, I am now receiving the following HD channels:
283 DIYHD
285 GSNHD
287 HUBHD
394 TENNISHD
472 BTNHD
Previously I was getting a 'Not Authorized' message

EDIT: I usually never check the channel lineup at Comcast.com cause its always months out of date, but it is actually showing the new 4 digit HD channels (it says it was updated on 1/18/12)... Also its showing the old HD channel number gone on all the channels and ONLY a 4 digit number... which the insert I received showed them being a copy in the 1000s but also the previous # as well.... http://comcast.com/customers/clu/cha...t=true&CGID=71

A perfect example of that was this past Saturday when they had the Vandy-UF game on 8.2. Florida fans have those shakers with the silver strips in them and they make any picture look pixelated. It was so bad, the score bug was across the bottom of the screen when they got a shot of the Florida students with those shakers that score could not be read.

The Comcast "Previously announced HD channels now available in all areas" still not available in Fountain City 37918 yet.

I called Comcast and asked how to get Investigation Discovery HD on channel 387 on my box, and they said that channel was only available in SD on channel 111. This hasn't changed. I do get the guide data for 387, but a "channel not available" message. My cable package is XFINITY "Digital Preferred W/On Demand". This is on a TiVo box w/ a cablecard.

Anyone have any suggestions how to deal with Comcast about this?

Oh wow... I thought all areas had them now since that insert I got with my bill said they would be in all areas as of Feb. 1st. I don't have the 4 digit HD channel numbers yet but all the announced I have had for several months now in 37918.

I will change the Latest Additions chart to say 'most' areas later tonight.


Do you think it could be a cable card pairing or authorization issue?

Are you still receiving the full expanded basic (channels 2-99) in analog?

I passed through Knoxville today and happened to notice it. Should be corrected now.

- Trip

Thanks for the update.The chart shows just how pitiful my cable co.(Charter) is.Lagging behind Knology? Come on.lol

Dump them.

I now have all the HD channels in the 1000s channel range now, I also am still receiving them in the 280s/300s/400s channel range as well. They must still be working on where to place the locals though cause I am only seeing one local in the 1000s (ION HD) on 1003 which it was originally supposed to be 1022. I really think they should have the other HD locals as follows:

1009 or 1030 MyVLT HD instead of 213
1015 WKOP HD instead of 1021
1054 WPXK HD (ION) instead of 1003 or 1022 as originally planned

UPDATE-they have now put all locals in the 1000s range as follows:

1002 WKOP HD (WETP [same content as WKOP] in Tri Cities is 2.1 OTA)
1003 WPXK HD (ION)
1006 WATE HD
1007 WBXX HD (CW)
1008 WVLT HD
1009 MYVLT HD
1010 WBIR HD
1011 WTNZ HD

Not the order I would have chosen...but at least they did put MYVLT HD where I wanted However I think the reason they did it like this was based on where there SD channel numbers are, but I personally would rather it be the same as OTA except for MYVLT (since Comcast can't do subchannels) which I like where they put it right beside its main feed.

As a comparison between Knoxville, TN and Nashville, TN Lineups:

Knoxville, TN
SD Channel #	HD Channel #	Channel	Affiliation	OTA Virtual #
2	1002	WETP/WKOP	PBS	2.1/15.1
3	1003	WPXK	ION	54.1
5	1008	WVLT	CBS	8.1
7	1007	WBXX	CW	20.1
8	1009	WVLTDT2	MYNETWORK	8.2
9	1010	WBIR	NBC	10.1
11	1011	WTNZ	FOX	43.1
13	1006	WATE	ABC	6.1
Nashville, TN
SD Channel #	HD Channel #	Channel	Affiliation	OTA Virtual #
2	1002	WKRN	ABC	2.1
4	1004	WSMV	NBC	4.1
5	1005	WTVF	CBS	5.1
6	1006	WZTV	FOX	17.1
8	1008	WNPT	PBS	8.1
14	1014	WUXP	MYNETWORK	30.1
17	1017	WNPX	ION	28.1
18	1018	WNAB	CW	58.1

If you want to see a contrast in picture quality with WVLT, just tune in to one of the NCAA tournament games, then switch to one of the games on TNT or TBS.

I was in Nashville this past week and I saw WTVF (CBS) in HD for the first time and WOW what a difference between WVLT it was SO much sharper and its 1080i; there local news is the best of all the other stations in that DMA as well IMO.

I think they were the first HD local news in the entire state of Tennessee.

WKRN has almost the exact same set as WATE I guess since there both owned by Young Broadcasting.

I was just coming here to post the same exact thing.