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post #481 of 2004
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Originally Posted by babrown92 View Post

Some help would be much appreciated.

I live in Arizona and my brother lives in Knoxville and just got a Westinghouse LTV-32w6. I understand that this TV has a QAM tuner. What I'm trying to do for him is to see if he can pick up any of the HD channels from his tuner, no antenna, just straight from the TV.

I tried to walk him through how to scan over the phone, but since I've never seen his TV and dont know the situation as far as available OTA digital channels in knoxville it is getting quite frustrating. He says he isnt getting any HD channels. Is anyone here able to pickup any of the digital channels just through the tuner in their TV's? He has Knology cable if that makes any difference.

Also is their a channel listing for the digital OTA numbers?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Edit*
After looking around a bit I found some indications that Knology locks out all their digital signals so you have to get their STB. Is this true?


Can anyone confirm any of this?
post #482 of 2004
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Originally Posted by MRM4 View Post

As far as the LFS SEC games, the picture quality is the fault of WVLT.....

I watched CBS HD football in Dallas at my brother's house last week. There, it looks the way we all wish it looked, here....

.....me and my subchannel, pixelating down the avenue....
post #483 of 2004
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Originally Posted by babrown92 View Post

Some help would be much appreciated.

I live in Arizona and my brother lives in Knoxville and just got a Westinghouse LTV-32w6. I understand that this TV has a QAM tuner. What I'm trying to do for him is to see if he can pick up any of the HD channels from his tuner, no antenna, just straight from the TV.

I tried to walk him through how to scan over the phone, but since I've never seen his TV and dont know the situation as far as available OTA digital channels in knoxville it is getting quite frustrating. He says he isnt getting any HD channels. Is anyone here able to pickup any of the digital channels just through the tuner in their TV's? He has Knology cable if that makes any difference.

Also is their a channel listing for the digital OTA numbers?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Edit*
After looking around a bit I found some indications that Knology locks out all their digital signals so you have to get their STB. Is this true?

I also have a Westy 32w6. I can't help with most of your questions, but I can tell you how to scan for the HD channels on the 32w6. Press the TV button on the remote to select the RF input, then press the Menu button. Press up or down until you reach the TV/HDTV Settings. Select the appropriate TV System (Cable STD, Cable HRC, or Cable IRC). Change Autoscan to Yes and press enter. BTW, you can find a manual for this TV at the Westinghouse Digital website.

My TV firmware is 1.03. I think the latest is 4.02, but the procedure should be about the same.

I briefly had mine connected to Charter cable (without a STB) when I first got it and I was able to get some local HD channels. I don't know about Knology.

Hope this helps.
post #484 of 2004
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Originally Posted by babrown92 View Post

Can anyone confirm any of this?

Did a quick search and it appears the Westy does have an ATSC digital tuner built in. Your brother lives in Knoxville city he should be able to get the following channels fairly easy with an outside antenna or a good UHF in the attic. An inside antenna rabbit ears etc. all bets are off but should still get some. WVLT channel 8 DTV 30 is the weakest and hardest to get.

Channel assignments
PBS analog 15 digital 17
ABC WATE 6 digital 26
CBS WVLT 8 digital 30
NBC WBIR 10 digital 31
FOX WTNZ 43 digital 34
IND WMAR (none) digital 7
WBXX 20 digital 50 (This comes out of Oak Ridge so he may need to reorient antenna north NW best guess!)
PAX ???? 54 DTV 26 (Jellico TN same as above north)
FOX WEMT 39 digital 38 (Greenvile TN same as above east)

If he's on southside Knoxville with a good UHF he may also get some Ashville NC channels and some of Chatanooga channels. I know these Chattanooga can be picked up in Sunbright TN with a descent VHF/UHF antenna. Sunbright is about 30 miles North of Knoxville.

Note some of these channels are going back to VHF
post #485 of 2004
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

This is a channel 8 issue. They have a sub channel that is dragging their main channel farther and farther down. I've watched their signal quality steadily drop over the last 3 years. They're headed in the wrong direction...

Further more, their subchannel may not even be legal. It offers no local programming beyond advertising. It was being used for the UPN network which is now, I think, defunct? I'm not sure what's on it now beyond a whole lotta infomercials and home shopping goin' on...? Subchannels were intended to be used for local programming. That was their mandate.

Notice that 6 & 10 have weather channels on their sub's. Atleast it's local....

Channel 8 butchers their own HD signal and it's not due to any provider, well, they might make it worse?

Channel DTV 8-2 now has what they call MY TV. Basically the same programming as an old UPN channel. The sub channel may or may not be the problem. WSBN PBS out of Norton VA carries 2 sub channels and their HD still looks good. They do shut down 1 sub channel during prime time.
I believe it's a combo problem of low signal and sub channel. I'm lucky enough to be able to get WJHL DT 58 CBS Johnson City. Their HD looks awesome! They also carry a sub weather channel with video but their signal here is right at 100% so this may be part of the problem. Norton VA also comes in in the high 80's while WVLT is high 50's to low 60's.
post #486 of 2004
Hi Rachael,

Channel 8's sub channel isn't legal programming wise. Advertising wouldn't be cricket to put there. We really need PNT on there in 1080i. FCC is being laissez faire about this issue for now! I want my PNT!
post #487 of 2004
Here is my antenna web info:

red - uhf WBXX 20 CW CROSSVILLE TN 32° 19.1 20
red - uhf WVLR 48 REL TAZEWELL TN 64° 55.8 48
blue - uhf WKOP 15 PBS KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.6 15
blue - vhf WVLT 8 CBS KNOXVILLE TN 77° 31.6 8
* blue - uhf WVLT-DT 8.1 CBS KNOXVILLE TN 77° 31.6 30
blue - vhf WATE 6 ABC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 6
* blue - uhf WATE-DT 6.1 ABC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 26
blue - vhf WBIR 10 NBC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.6 10
* blue - uhf WBIR-DT 10.1 NBC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 31
blue - uhf WTNZ 43 FOX KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 43
* blue - uhf WTNZ-DT 43.1 FOX KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 34
blue - vhf WDEF 12 CBS CHATTANOOGA TN 227° 68.5 12
blue - uhf WDSI 61 FOX CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 63.0 61
blue - uhf WTCI 45 PBS CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 63.3 45
blue - vhf WTVC 9 ABC CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 67.0 9
blue - vhf WRCB 3 NBC CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 66.9 3
* violet - uhf WKOP-DT 17.1 PBS KNOXVILLE TN 77° 31.6 17
* violet - uhf WFLI-DT 53.1 CW CLEVELAND TN 228° 63.0 42

Hopefully I will be viewing OTA HD soon. I'm believe I'm going to set-up the CM-4228 in the attic. I'm mainly interested in the HDTV out of Knoxville at around 30 miles. Might try a CM 7777 preamp with a rotor also just incase I can get more stations than displayed.great site,thanks
post #488 of 2004
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Originally Posted by bigorange View Post

Hopefully I will be viewing OTA HD soon. I'm believe I'm going to set-up the CM-4228 in the attic. I'm mainly interested in the HDTV out of Knoxville at around 30 miles. Might try a CM 7777 preamp with a rotor also just incase I can get more stations than displayed.great site,thanks

The 4228 should be a good choice for you. I bet you won't need a preamp and sometimes they can make things worse especially in an attic.
post #489 of 2004
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Originally Posted by bigorange View Post

Hopefully I will be viewing OTA HD soon. I'm believe I'm going to set-up the CM-4228 in the attic. I'm mainly interested in the HDTV out of Knoxville at around 30 miles. Might try a CM 7777 preamp with a rotor also just incase I can get more stations than displayed.great site,thanks

Keep me updated on what channels you get.

NashDigie signing off.
post #490 of 2004
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Originally Posted by bigorange View Post

Here is my antenna web info:

red - uhf WBXX 20 CW CROSSVILLE TN 32° 19.1 20
red - uhf WVLR 48 REL TAZEWELL TN 64° 55.8 48
blue - uhf WKOP 15 PBS KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.6 15
blue - vhf WVLT 8 CBS KNOXVILLE TN 77° 31.6 8
* blue - uhf WVLT-DT 8.1 CBS KNOXVILLE TN 77° 31.6 30
blue - vhf WATE 6 ABC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 6
* blue - uhf WATE-DT 6.1 ABC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 26
blue - vhf WBIR 10 NBC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.6 10
* blue - uhf WBIR-DT 10.1 NBC KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 31
blue - uhf WTNZ 43 FOX KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 43
* blue - uhf WTNZ-DT 43.1 FOX KNOXVILLE TN 76° 32.4 34
blue - vhf WDEF 12 CBS CHATTANOOGA TN 227° 68.5 12
blue - uhf WDSI 61 FOX CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 63.0 61
blue - uhf WTCI 45 PBS CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 63.3 45
blue - vhf WTVC 9 ABC CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 67.0 9
blue - vhf WRCB 3 NBC CHATTANOOGA TN 228° 66.9 3
* violet - uhf WKOP-DT 17.1 PBS KNOXVILLE TN 77° 31.6 17
* violet - uhf WFLI-DT 53.1 CW CLEVELAND TN 228° 63.0 42

Hopefully I will be viewing OTA HD soon. I'm believe I'm going to set-up the CM-4228 in the attic. I'm mainly interested in the HDTV out of Knoxville at around 30 miles. Might try a CM 7777 preamp with a rotor also just incase I can get more stations than displayed.great site,thanks

Did you forget WMAK-DT ch7?
post #491 of 2004
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Originally Posted by KnoxDTV View Post

Did you forget WMAK-DT ch7?

Speaking of WMAK-DT ch7, why does Charter not have a logo for it on the Moxi DVR and why is the picture quality so bad and at 480p?

All the other HD channels have a logo for the station.

In case you don't know what MOXI is http://www.moxi.com
post #492 of 2004
[quote=hotshot]Speaking of WMAK-DT ch7, why does Charter not have a logo for it on the Moxi DVR and why is the picture quality so bad and at 480p?

All the other HD channels have a logo for the station.


WMAK is only on analog tier on Charter. They don't carry HD feed.
post #493 of 2004
Anyone else had a sudden signal strength drop on Channel 8-1(CBS-WVLT) in Knoxville?
post #494 of 2004
[quote=KnoxDTV]
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Originally Posted by hotshot View Post

Speaking of WMAK-DT ch7, why does Charter not have a logo for it on the Moxi DVR and why is the picture quality so bad and at 480p?

All the other HD channels have a logo for the station.


WMAK is only on analog tier on Charter. They don't carry HD feed.

I wonder why it does not have a logo on the channel guide?
post #495 of 2004
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Originally Posted by hotshot View Post


I wonder why it does not have a logo on the channel guide?

Maybe because it's an Independent?
post #496 of 2004
Hi All,

Just ordered up a new Sony HDTV for Xmas. We are out in southwest Loudon County, about 35 miles from Sharps Ridge, and antennaweb says NO Knoxville digital stations for us. It does say we should be able to get WBXX, but I'm not sure there is anything on there worth watching.

But with no Knox HD locals from either sat vendor, I am going to give it a shot with a high gain OTA antenna anyway. I'm just wondering if anyone has succeeded in pulling in HD stations OTA when antennaweb said they couldn't?
post #497 of 2004
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Originally Posted by TreeFarm View Post

Hi All,

Just ordered up a new Sony HDTV for Xmas. We are out in southwest Loudon County, about 35 miles from Sharps Ridge, and antennaweb says NO Knoxville digital stations for us. It does say we should be able to get WBXX, but I'm not sure there is anything on there worth watching.

But with no Knox HD locals from either sat vendor, I am going to give it a shot with a high gain OTA antenna anyway. I'm just wondering if anyone has succeeded in pulling in HD stations OTA when antennaweb said they couldn't?

I bet you've got a shot if you live at a relatively high elevation spot...?
post #498 of 2004
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Originally Posted by Kent Teffeteller View Post

Hi Rachael,

Channel 8's sub channel isn't legal programming wise. Advertising wouldn't be cricket to put there. We really need PNT on there in 1080i. FCC is being laissez faire about this issue for now! I want my PNT!

Kent, how 'bout "laissez ignore"...? I might make a few more PNT shows. I'd like to but finding willing participants is often hard....
post #499 of 2004
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

I bet you've got a shot if you live at a relatively high elevation spot...?

We have a ridge next to us running toward Knoxville. The Knox transmitters' angle has us shooting over that ridge about a mile away. The interesting thing is this: If I put the top of the ridge next to us into antennaweb, it actually shows worse reception in the Knoxville direction. Makes no sense at all.
post #500 of 2004
Antennaweb is notoriously conservative in their estimates. If you put your actual elevation into their calculator it may give a more accurate prediction.
post #501 of 2004
Hey all...short time lurker on this Knoxville thread..figured I'd introduce myself. I'm Brett, and my wife and I live in the Powell area. We currently have a Mits WD62725 in our home theater - still loving it, though I can't help but daydream about it's eventual replacement.

We've been longtime DirecTV customers. I used to feel some loyalty to DirecTV, but now I just consider it the lesser of several evils. We have the HR10-250 DVR, and love it. It has it's issues, but it is a HD TiVo and I'll hold on to it like grim death. DirecTV better have its hardware ducks in a row when they make me replace it, or they can go to....well, anyway.

For OTA, I'm using the Winegard HD7210P Ghost Killer, which was the third antenna solution - it's proved to be the most reliable, though it's still susceptible to high winds and such. And ice storms - it doesn't like ice storms.

Anyway, enough blathering...nice to have found this thread!

Brett
post #502 of 2004
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Originally Posted by aVOLanche View Post

Anyone else had a sudden signal strength drop on Channel 8-1(CBS-WVLT) in Knoxville?

Yesterday, while watching the Titans, then the Chargers/Broncos, the signal was pretty low. And conditions at my place were fine, so something must have been up.

Also, did anyone notice that it took WVLT a LOOOOONG TIIIIME to swith on the HD feed for the Chargers/Broncos game. What's up with that? Is it really a situation where somebody at the local affiliate has to flip a switch? If so, WAKE UP! I tried calling down there, but they're conveniently unavailable on Sunday afternoons.
post #503 of 2004
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Originally Posted by btravis311 View Post

Also, did anyone notice that it took WVLT a LOOOOONG TIIIIME to swith on the HD feed for the Chargers/Broncos game. What's up with that? Is it really a situation where somebody at the local affiliate has to flip a switch? If so, WAKE UP! I tried calling down there, but they're conveniently unavailable on Sunday afternoons.

Welcome to the Forum Brett!

Yea, that's channel 8. Next time try calling the news desk and ask to be transferred to master control.
post #504 of 2004
Welcome,Brett....

What DaverJ said is correct.I'll elaborate in saying that there is always someone to answer the phone at ALL the stations(gotta get that breaking news!).Just get them to transfer you to master control(aka-engineering) and tell them to flip the HD switch.

What problems with your HR10-250?
post #505 of 2004
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Originally Posted by TreeFarm View Post

Hi All,

Just ordered up a new Sony HDTV for Xmas. We are out in southwest Loudon County, about 35 miles from Sharps Ridge, and antennaweb says NO Knoxville digital stations for us. It does say we should be able to get WBXX, but I'm not sure there is anything on there worth watching.

But with no Knox HD locals from either sat vendor, I am going to give it a shot with a high gain OTA antenna anyway. I'm just wondering if anyone has succeeded in pulling in HD stations OTA when antennaweb said they couldn't?

If you want to have an idea about reception of Knoxville channels prior to purchasing a HD set, just look at the reception you get from the analog channels. For instance, channel 43 is transmitting from a common antenna that includes WATE-DT, WBIR-DT, and WTNZ-DT. If you can get channel 43 analog (NTSC) with a watchable and stable signal, the same antenna should get the DTV channels.

FYI, my Dad lives in Monroe county and can easily receive all of the Knoxville channels. He is in a good spot with an outside antenna. This distance is about 45 miles.
post #506 of 2004
Hi Patrick,

Set's purchased. We are just awaiting its arrival. Right now we get the Knox locals via DirecTV, but they aren't carrying them in HD and neither is Dish, so an OTA is the only option, other than waiting.

I will probably try a high gain antenna as soon as the holidays are over and I have enough time to fool with it. I was kind of hoping some other folks buried back behind the ridges might post and say what kind of luck they had doing the same. Unlike your Dad, we are not in a good spot, unfortunately.

We also have to decide whether to stay with DirecTV or change to Dish before we order HD programming. Not knowing the status of HD on the locals for either sat provider doesn't make that any easier.
post #507 of 2004
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Originally Posted by btravis311 View Post

Also, did anyone notice that it took WVLT a LOOOOONG TIIIIME to swith on the HD feed for the Chargers/Broncos game. What's up with that? Is it really a situation where somebody at the local affiliate has to flip a switch? If so, WAKE UP! I tried calling down there, but they're conveniently unavailable on Sunday afternoons.

I noticed that. They are so used to having Titans games that are only in SD, I think they forget about the second game.
post #508 of 2004
Hello all,

I just moved to the Knoxville area - in the northwest off of Pleasant Ridge (a road off of Western Avenue). The antennaweb site puts all of the major broadcasting antennas in yellow (I guess because Sharps Ridge is 3 miles away). There is a HUGE hill obstructing my view to the ridge though. Do you think a simple indoor HDTV antenna will get a clear signal from my home? I can't wait to get my Mitsubishi 65732 going strong.

Thanks in advance!
post #509 of 2004
Did you the antennaweb map show your house (the star) in its correct location? If so, the hill should already be factored in. If not, I suggest redoing it and using the map controls to make sure your location is correct. The projections may change.
post #510 of 2004
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Originally Posted by TreeFarm View Post

Did you the antennaweb map show your house (the star) in its correct location? If so, the hill should already be factored in. If not, I suggest redoing it and using the map controls to make sure your location is correct. The projections may change.

I am almost at the top of the hill and had problems getting a signal, had to move the antenna to the attic and find a sweet spot.
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