Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89
FWIW, the readings from converter boxes and tv tuners are mostly irrelevant as to the actual signal strength at the input. Comparisons are only mildly important ONLY when comparing signals measured with the same model box witht he same revision of internal firmware. Additionally, the "single meter" displays aren't really a strength indication anyway.
I think I know what you're saying here. From my footer you can see that I'm using two different tuner boxes. Both have the ability to measure signal strength and the VOOM seems to clearly be the better box for pulling stations in. That box allows you to simply enter the RF you want to measure, whereupon it gives you a reading of the strength.
The Samsung works differently. On that one, you can only measure the strength of the channel you're tuned to. So, since I can't lock WHYY in on that box (despite the fact that WHYY has a strength of ~97% on the VOOM box), I can't measure the strength of RF 12 because the box apparently can't "see it," thus doesn't lock it in, thus I can't tune to it.
Now, as to WYBE, I posted a few days ago on having lost their signal. It's on this page. That's on the VOOM box. They appear to be back online now (I think they were making equipment / antenna adjustments) and I can see them at 94% on the VOOM box now, for a mostly steady signal. And I did lock them in on a re-scan.
BUT, when I tune to them, I get the "no signal" message. On all subchannels.
Back when I last posted on this, I noted that they seemed to be "in and out" and that once I got their signal so that I was receiving their program, which I was able to do sporadically back then, it seemed to hold steady. But if I tuned away and then came back, I couldn't get their signal again. It seemed I could only get their programming if I tuned to the station, then measured the signal strength using that utility, which always seemed to start out low and then jump up to say, 94%, and then I bailed out of the signal strength utility whereupon the box reverts back to the station it was last tuned to. That seemed to be the only way I could receive their programming. I experienced that quite a few times that day.
NOW I can't get any programming at all. So it seems they've done something to their signal (which it seems they were in the process of doing before). The mystery to me is why I can lock them in AND why they are showing at a very strong 94% signal strength on the VOOM "meter." The box is clearly seeing them, but I can't get it to translate to receiving programming anymore. When I bail out of the strength utility, I can no longer get their programming to "lock in" like it did the other day.
What's up with that?????????
How can my box "see" their signal but not "see" their programming?
I guess I know it's a "decoding" problem, but it just seems weird to me. And it's gotta be because they altered their signal recently. Prior to that, I received them just fine on the VOOM.
Now I can only get 'em on the Samsung boxes.
Regular old NTSC TV
SIR-TS360 receiver (also Voom OTA box (retired Voom Satellite box))
RS Model VU-190 XR antenna
Getting 14 strong stations out of the Roxborough farm and Trenton (farm is ~50 miles away @ 233°)