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post #2911 of 3803
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Originally Posted by N3NTJ View Post

And what sort of signal do you get on your TV's ATSC tuner for WYBE?

It's only connected to the Directv unit and not to the tv tuner.
post #2912 of 3803
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Originally Posted by rcodey View Post

It's only connected to the Directv unit and not to the tv tuner.

Well, if you connect the antenna to the TV's ATSC tuner, what sort of signal do you get for WYBE (35.1)?
post #2913 of 3803
I get 0 for WYBE. In Eastampton NJ.
post #2914 of 3803
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Originally Posted by N3NTJ View Post

Well, if you connect the antenna to the TV's ATSC tuner, what sort of signal do you get for WYBE (35.1)?

It's a major project for me to directly connect the wire to the tv. The wire comes up from a crawl space and is tied down there to the wood beams. There is not enough wire to reach the tv and the crawl space is about 30 inchs high.
post #2915 of 3803
My equipment recently started picking up WELL-LD on RF 30 (heading is an error), but the signal is so weak that I get a lock only intermittently. This puzzled me since according to the FCC coverage map (which is here: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-serv...LD1284630.html) I am right in the center of the coverage area. So I emailed the station and an engineer got back to me and said they are not yet at full power (they are licensed for 10 kW). He said they are having a filter problem but hope to have full power up soon. Anyone else seeing this station? The content is Daystar (religious).
post #2916 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Daniel Murray View Post

I get 0 for WYBE. In Eastampton NJ.

On the HR20's OTA tuner?
post #2917 of 3803
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Originally Posted by N3NTJ View Post

On the HR20's OTA tuner?

No sorry my two TV Tuners.
post #2918 of 3803
Do you get any signal for WYBE 35.1 on the HR20's OTA tuner?
post #2919 of 3803
anyone getting stuttering ONLY during commercial breaks ?

edit: this occur on both samsung and sharp lcds. On live FOOTBALL it occurs during commericial breaks. Sometimes it occurs on both shows and commericials and sometimes neither.
post #2920 of 3803
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Originally Posted by mxl360 View Post

anyone getting stuttering ONLY during commercial breaks ?

I suppose you mean on channel 6.1, WPVI. Yes, they screwed something up there about a month ago. Only affects some receivers. Any suggestions on how to get them to fix it?
post #2921 of 3803
Looks like somebody finally hit a nerve with WPVI's engineers (the FCC maybe?) After more than a month of annoying jumpy commercials and remotes, during this morning's GMA from about 8:15 until 9:00, nary a stutter, jump, skip, or anything else on the Polaroid TV. Let's hope it sticks.

Anyone notice a pulsating background sound during last night's rerun of "The Forgotten"? Not there in the news that followed, so it may have originated with the network; but WPVI and/or ABC certainly don't seem really "with" this whole digital thing.
post #2922 of 3803
On Friday,12/11 WYBE moved its antenna to a top mounted position on the tall "candelabra" tower in Roxborough and increased its power to 450 kW ERP. Prior to the move, they were stationed on a sidemount antenna, transmitting at just 150kW ERP, with the tower's "shadow" effecting (further inhibiting signal strength within) areas to the west.

The new signal is circularly polarized. This is a good thing for (among other things) the up and coming Mobile DTV. If you are interested in more on this geeky polarization stuff pls paste the following link into your browser:

naob-advocacy.informz.net/naob-advocacy/archives/archive_548179.html


I see that there are a number of "in the know" OTA folks on this site. If I may, I would like to ask you to a few questions regarding your OTA WYBE signal:


What is your zip code?

What is your current % signal level?

What WAS your % signal level prior to the 12/11 power increase (if, by chance, you remember)

What OTA equipment are you using?


My household's WYBE signal information is as follows:

Zip = 08512 (I'm about 45-50 miles from the transmitter)
Current Signal Level = 90-94%
Prior signal level = 82-85%
My equipment is a Panasonic Viera Plasma HD TV with an ATSC tuner, a rooftop Weingard 9095P Yagi antenna with a Winegard AP-4700 preamp.

There's no need to get too techy... but would really appreciate you telling me whatever you can regarding your signal.

My name is Bob. I am a friend to this station (and other commercial and independent broadcasters). I can be found at BroadcasterConsulting.com.

Thank you!
post #2923 of 3803
Now that WPVI-DT seems to have fixed the stuttering-picture problem, a couple of other strange things are occurring:

1. The no longer seem to be supplying MacROVIsion with guide data to be sent out to TVGOS enabled devices. Some (but not all) other ABC stations around the country seem to be suffering the same issue. It's not clear if it's a WPVI problem or a ROVI problem.

2. Their PSIP guide data is being sent out in ALL CAPS, unlike any other station. I can't remember if it was always this way, or just recently.
post #2924 of 3803
I can't remember exactly what signal strength I had before for WYBE. I thought it was less than 50%. Tonight, I checked on my TivoHD and it was pretty steady at around 87%.

On another note: today is the first time I can actually lock the ION stations (61-*) since June - the signal is around 45%. Not great, but strong enough to lock without any pixellation. I don't know if anything happened with that station or if I am just getting the benefit of some optimal weather or something.
post #2925 of 3803
Anyone else notice that Channel 65-1 (WUVP) has gone to a 1080i signal?

Harry
post #2926 of 3803
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Originally Posted by frank70 View Post

2. Their PSIP guide data is being sent out in ALL CAPS, unlike any other station. I can't remember if it was always this way, or just recently.

WPVI has been doing this for years and years, not new.
post #2927 of 3803
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Originally Posted by HGN2001 View Post

Anyone else notice that Channel 65-1 (WUVP) has gone to a 1080i signal?

Yes now that you mention it but the program I looked at was SD. Do they have any HD content?
post #2928 of 3803
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Originally Posted by otaguy View Post

Yes now that you mention it but the program I looked at was SD. Do they have any HD content?


Unknown on my part. Just something I noticed in passing by it on the tuner.

Perhaps they're planning a first-of-year upgrade in some of their programming.

Harry
post #2929 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Broadcast Guy View Post

On Friday,12/11 WYBE moved its antenna to a top mounted position on the tall "candelabra" tower in Roxborough and increased its power to 450 kW ERP. Prior to the move, they were stationed on a sidemount antenna, transmitting at just 150kW ERP, with the tower's "shadow" effecting (further inhibiting signal strength within) areas to the west.

The new signal is circularly polarized. This is a good thing for (among other things) the up and coming Mobile DTV. If you are interested in more on this geeky polarization stuff pls paste the following link into your browser:

naob-advocacy.informz.net/naob-advocacy/archives/archive_548179.html


I see that there are a number of "in the know" OTA folks on this site. If I may, I would like to ask you to a few questions regarding your OTA WYBE signal:


What is your zip code?

What is your current % signal level?

What WAS your % signal level prior to the 12/11 power increase (if, by chance, you remember)

What OTA equipment are you using?


My household's WYBE signal information is as follows:

Zip = 08512 (I'm about 45-50 miles from the transmitter)
Current Signal Level = 90-94%
Prior signal level = 82-85%
My equipment is a Panasonic Viera Plasma HD TV with an ATSC tuner, a rooftop Weingard 9095P Yagi antenna with a Winegard AP-4700 preamp.

There's no need to get too techy... but would really appreciate you telling me whatever you can regarding your signal.

My name is Bob. I am a friend to this station (and other commercial and independent broadcasters). I can be found at BroadcasterConsulting.com.

Thank you!

West Orange, NJ-07052-72 miles
Current level-low to mid 80s
Prior level-high 50s to low60s
Directv HR20-700 unit
Big increase in signal in fringe area. Now get 29 to raise their antenna.
post #2930 of 3803
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Originally Posted by otaguy View Post

Yes now that you mention it but the program I looked at was SD. Do they have any HD content?

Last evening I just happened to surf by 65-1 as there was a promo running. A man was standing in front of two flat-panel high-def televisions. Univision logos appeared on the TVs followed by three show names (I suppose). All showed a ratio of 16:9, and it was all followed by a Univision 2010 HD logo.

Sorry, I don't speak Spanish, but I got the gist of the message - at least some programs on Univision in 2010 look like they will be in HD. So that must be the reason for the upgrade.

Harry
post #2931 of 3803
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Originally Posted by blackngold75 View Post

On another note: today is the first time I can actually lock the ION stations (61-*) since June - the signal is around 45%. Not great, but strong enough to lock without any pixellation. I don't know if anything happened with that station or if I am just getting the benefit of some optimal weather or something.

That didn't last long. ION again not locking-too weak. It was interesting while it lasted.
post #2932 of 3803
On the WYBE issue, I just today noted Broadcast Guy's post and so I checked my situation on my VOOM box and son-of-a-gun if I'm not now receiving it at 97% (on the VOOM). I previously posted on my recent problems (since June) getting them; for example, here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17604012

My zip is 08807 and I'm near the Bridgewater Commons Mall if ya want to nail my location pretty precisely (Bridgewater is a township and a bit spread out).

Prior to June, I was getting WYBE for as long as I've been doing OTA, which has been since January 2007. They did some fiddling around in June and that's when I lost them on the VOOM. Strangely I could lock them in but couldn't get any signal when I tuned to 'em. Wierd. That's why I figured it was some sort of mapping issue. Can't recall what the strength was but I might have noted it in one of my posts since June -- I did a few on the WYBE situation since June.

Note that I continued to receive WYBE since June on the Samsung box, which is also wierd since that box isn't as good as the VOOM at pulling in stations -- another reason I was leaning toward mapping as being the problem.

My equipment is noted in my footer below.


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Sony KV-27HS420
SIR-TS360 receiver (also VOOM OTA box (retired VOOM Satellite box))
RS Model VU-190 XR antenna
Getting 42 strong channels/subchannels out of the Roxborough farm / Trenton / Allentown (farm is ~50 miles away @ 233°)
post #2933 of 3803
Hello, new to this site and was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a good Set top box tuner for a Sony HD-Ready tv I just got. I am in Philly and was specifically looking for somebody who uses a STB or is well versed in the subject. I will be going straight OTA with no cable. I would also like to keep the price down if possible. I have read some posts on the Centronics 502 and the Coby but I do not have much knowledge on this subject to make the decision without help...Thanks in advance.
post #2934 of 3803
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Originally Posted by easyflow04 View Post

Hello, new to this site and was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a good Set top box tuner for a Sony HD-Ready tv I just got. I am in Philly and was specifically looking for somebody who uses a STB or is well versed in the subject. I will be going straight OTA with no cable. I would also like to keep the price down if possible. I have read some posts on the Centronics 502 and the Coby but I do not have much knowledge on this subject to make the decision without help...Thanks in advance.

Well if you have an HD ready set, you could get an HD capable OTA tuner, but that is certainly not "cheap" (>$150) nor is it readily availible without digging online on ebay and other sites you have never heard of.

You are looking for what is sometimes called a "converter box", and do realize you will NOT get HD out of it, even though it picks up digital over the air channels it outputs them to your TV in standard def.

Having said all that, I think most would agree the best box out there is the Zenith DTT901. A close runner up is the RCA DTA800B(B is just a later revision). I personally have the 901s and have set a couple up for people. The menus are easily to use/navigate, great performance picking up weaker signals, good picture quality, simple program guide, easy to add/delete channels manually(without a scan), etc. Kmart/Sears used to be the best place to get them($50), but I'm not sure if they stock them anymore since the transition date was several months ago and the coupon program is long done.
post #2935 of 3803
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Originally Posted by T-Max View Post

On the WYBE issue, I just today noted Broadcast Guy's post and so I checked my situation on my VOOM box and son-of-a-gun if I'm not now receiving it at 97% (on the VOOM). I previously posted on my recent problems (since June) getting them; for example, here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post17604012

My zip is 08807 and I'm near the Bridgewater Commons Mall if ya want to nail my location pretty precisely (Bridgewater is a township and a bit spread out).

Prior to June, I was getting WYBE for as long as I've been doing OTA, which has been since January 2007. They did some fiddling around in June and that's when I lost them on the VOOM. Strangely I could lock them in but couldn't get any signal when I tuned to 'em. Wierd. That's why I figured it was some sort of mapping issue. Can't recall what the strength was but I might have noted it in one of my posts since June -- I did a few on the WYBE situation since June.

Note that I continued to receive WYBE since June on the Samsung box, which is also wierd since that box isn't as good as the VOOM at pulling in stations -- another reason I was leaning toward mapping as being the problem.

I can also now receive WYBE again over here near Lancaster on my HR20-700. Either the power boost really did it or WYBE fixed their PSIP. Does this also mean that the work that WCAU was doing at their transmission site is complete?

I can't get the 61.x stations still.. no big loss but I think they air old M*A*S*H episodes.
post #2936 of 3803
Thanks for the great info everybody... and yes, WCAU is finished, and back on the top mount at 700 kW ERP...
post #2937 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Broadcast Guy View Post

Thanks for the great info everybody... and yes, WCAU is finished, and back on the top mount at 700 kW ERP...

Do WCAU and WYBE have the highest antennas in Philadelphia? Those two channels are my strongest Philadelphia UHF signals in northern New Jersey 72 miles out.
post #2938 of 3803
WCAU is on a "candelabra" antenna structure. So, their height or "HAAT" is on par with several other stations on the tower. They're at 400 meters HAAT. Can you tell me what your signal levels are for WCAU, KYW and Fox? Also, what antenna are you using? Thanks.
post #2939 of 3803
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Originally Posted by Broadcast Guy View Post

WCAU is on a "candelabra" antenna structure. So, their height or "HAAT" is on par with several other stations on the tower. They're at 400 meters HAAT. Can you tell me what your signal levels are for WCAU, KYW and Fox? Also, what antenna are you using? Thanks.

Broadcast Guy, Some info for WYBE and others,

What is your zip code?
08723(57 miles out)

What is your current % signal level?
WYBE 64
WCAU 75
KYW 90
FOX 68

What WAS your % signal level prior to the 12/11 power increase (if, by chance, you remember)
Sorry don't remember but it is better.

What OTA equipment are you using?
Dish Network 622
Channel Master 4228 antenna
Channel Master 7775 pre amp
post #2940 of 3803
Quote:
Originally Posted by Broadcast Guy View Post

WCAU is on a "candelabra" antenna structure. So, their height or "HAAT" is on par with several other stations on the tower. They're at 400 meters HAAT. Can you tell me what your signal levels are for WCAU, KYW and Fox? Also, what antenna are you using? Thanks.

WCAU-mid60s to low 70s.
KYW-high 30s to low 40s dropping to zero.-From Spring to Fall their signal is much stronger and not just during good ducting periods. For example the 4pm News never has drop outs during that period. Now during the Winter drop outs occur every minute.
WTXK-Zero-this signal disappears during Winter.Comes in fairly well from Spring thru Fall.

My antenna is a Channel Master 4248.
Also have 2 horizontially stacked antennas but haven't used them for Philadelphia lately.
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