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post #31 of 4267
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Originally Posted by Eshkind View Post

Where you have found this information? Noise: <20dB - it's impossible!

Our list of features is merely pooled info gathered from AVS posters. digital_dilemma posted the noise spec some time ago.

Why do you say it's "impossible"??!!
post #32 of 4267
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Originally Posted by Ja Phule View Post

I think he meant "from a ScreenPlay distributor."

What's DNX?

Pixelworks DNX, or Digital Natural Expression. The info I have says the 72, 74 and 76 will all use it. DNX seems to be the processor of choice for all the current plasmas and LCD displays. I don't know much more about it, I know that Epson, Optoma and SIM are all using Pixelworks processors. Faroudja is old by technology standards. It would be interesting to learn which one really performs better. I could not find any white papers or real details on the Pixelworks web site.

htr
post #33 of 4267
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Originally Posted by The HT Rookie View Post

I don't know much more about it

Pixelworks DNX (Digital Natural Expression) technology enhances the quality of digital video images by advanced scaling, motion-adaptive deinterlacing, noise reduction, dynamic edge enhancement, and smoothing of moving lines to deliver a lifelike picture. These are achieved with advanced DCTI & DLTI processing:
  • DCTI (Digital Chroma Transient Improvement) - advanced digital image processing further improves horizontal quality of color signal.
  • DLTI (Digital Luminance Transient Improvement) - advanced digital image processing further improves horizontal brightness of picture
post #34 of 4267
Cool. I wonder how the DNX technology compares to faroudja. I believe Optoma also uses a pixelworks chip (but not sure if it's DNX). There's a flash animation about DNX on the pixelworks website.

http://www.pixelworks.com/
post #35 of 4267
No new information (NO new information is available - unless you have an inside track to InFocus...), but nice pics:
CineNow - US
In France (includes top view):
CineNow - FR

Enjoy!
post #36 of 4267
oh goodie

can't wait for the throw calculator
post #37 of 4267
Kras

Do you know if the new PJs will use DCDi or this DNX stuff?
post #38 of 4267
No more M1 to deal with?
post #39 of 4267
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Originally Posted by Tweakophyte View Post

No more M1 to deal with?

It's still there. There is just an additional HDMI port.
post #40 of 4267
IIRC, it has an hdmi input along with an M1 input.

EDIT: What cavu stated
post #41 of 4267
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CES has announced that InFocus has won a CES 2006 Innovations Award with the Play Big IN72 "gaming television"!

"Gaming television"??!! "Play Big"??!! I'm not sure I like where this is going.
post #42 of 4267
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

CES has announced that InFocus has won a CES 2006 Innovations Award with the Play Big IN72 "gaming television"!

"Gaming television"??!! "Play Big"??!! I'm not sure I like where this is going.

Why the IN72 anyway? For "gaming television" with the 360 and upcoming PS3 you'd want the IN76.

Nigel
post #43 of 4267
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Originally Posted by nigel_ht View Post

Why the IN72 anyway? For "gaming television" with the 360 and upcoming PS3 you'd want the IN76.

Nigel

Outside of gaming TV, as long as NTSC is around, then will so 480p machines. And I can assure you that NTSC won't be going away for a long time.
post #44 of 4267
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Originally Posted by nigel_ht View Post

Why the IN72 anyway? For "gaming television" with the 360 and upcoming PS3 you'd want the IN76.

Nigel

Actually, if you go to the official CES site and not the link shown, it was the IN76 that won the award.
post #45 of 4267
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InFocus
January 03, 2006 08:00 AM US Eastern Timezone

InFocus Sets the Ultimate Stage to Play Big; InFocus Play Big: Digital Projection Has Never Looked So Good

InFocus brings home entertainment to a new level with the introduction of the Play Big series of digital home projectors. With curved lines, a high-gloss black finish and satin chrome accents, the projectors connect to home-electronic devices including: DVD players, satellite receivers, high-definition broadcast receivers, TVs, computers, and major video game consoles. WILSONVILLE, Ore.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 3, 2006--Knowing the action is just minutes away, the crowd cheers in anticipation of the raw energy about to rush over them. Rock concert or football game, being there used to be the only way to experience the intensity and thrill of these moments. Not anymore. Now fans at home can share in the excitement, fill their field of vision with the action and surround themselves with the experience. InFocus(R) (Nasdaq:INFS), the industry pioneer and leader in the projection market, brings the world a new level of entertainment at home with the introduction of the InFocus Play Big series of digital home projectors.

InFocus introduces the Play Big entertainment portfolio, delivering outstanding performance with a look reminiscent of a sports car. Design meets digital projection with a stylish edge including curved lines with a high-gloss black finish and satin chrome accents to complement any decor whether the lights are on or off.

And the view is breathtaking. InFocus Play Big projectors are brighter than most plasma TVs and offer consumers the best value per diagonal inch for big screen viewing. InFocus Play Big produces a stunning image ranging from 60" to filling a wall with 144" diagonal. All this in a clean, sculptural package that can be proudly displayed in any home environment.

"InFocus' innovation is hard at work in the Play Big portfolio," said Scott Ballantyne, chief marketing officer, InFocus. "With the combination of style, a vivid picture and affordability, InFocus is creating a new category of digital projection that delivers a theater size experience in an affordable, easy to use and sleek package."

Big Picture Solutions

The new InFocus Play Big IN72, IN74EX and IN76 fill the wall, or a screen, with bright, vivid and crisp images, capturing every detail of a movie, sporting event, video game or other big picture viewing event. Whether it's the most hilarious line in a comedy, a suspenseful plot twist in a drama or the moment the underdog team makes an incredible comeback, InFocus Play Big projectors deliver an amazing big picture experience.

-- For consumers looking for their first home entertainment system, the InFocus Play Big IN72 is an affordable 480p resolution projector bringing the big picture experience to home entertainment and gaming.

-- The InFocus Play Big IN74EX features native 576p resolution, which provides a nice balance between DVD resolution and HDTV. The IN74EX is available exclusively through authorized custom home theater dealers.

-- The InFocus Play Big IN76 is a performance-rich 720p native HD front projector, bringing a superb big theater experience to the home of the video enthusiast.

The Play Big portfolio is easy to use, featuring auto-ceiling mount detection, integrated table-top pedestal, quiet operation and a patented low light pollution case. The perfect choice for the discerning home theater enthusiast, the Play Big projectors feature true 16:9 aspect ratio and video optimized light output, colors and contrast (model dependent) for excellent video quality and an image larger than traditional plasma, LCD or RPTV options.

InFocus Play Big projectors easily connect to nearly any home-electronic device including: DVD players, satellite receivers, high-definition broadcast receivers, TVs, computers, and major video game consoles. They include an integrated cable cover to hide unwanted wires when ceiling mounted and a unique, integrated swivel pedestal that simplifies tabletop set-up and is easily removed for ceiling mount applications.

InFocus Play Big includes the latest Texas Instruments(R) enhanced definition DLP(TM) (Digital Light Processing) chip, the benchmark for video projection. The video image is enhanced with Pixelworks(TM) DNX video processing for superb brightness, contrast and overall video quality. All models come calibrated to D65 color standards to ensure cinema-quality color reproduction. Additionally, InFocus Play Big projectors include the latest inputs such as HDMI (high definition multimedia interface), which provides the easiest and highest-quality video interface available from DVD players, HD receivers and new HD game consoles enabled with HDCP (high-bandwidth digital contents protection).

With the introduction of Play Big, consumers can select their stage of choice, sit back and let InFocus Play Big do the rest.

Availability:

The InFocus Play Big projectors will be available in Q1 2006. The InFocus Play Big IN72 will be available for $1,299, the IN74EX is priced at $1,999 and the IN76 is $2,999. For more information about InFocus Play Big and complementary products, please visit www.infocus.com.

About InFocus Corporation

InFocus(R) Corporation (Nasdaq:INFS) is the industry pioneer and worldwide leader in the projection market today. Nearly twenty years of experience and engineering breakthroughs are at work here, constantly improving what you see in the marketplace, and delivering immersive audio visual impact in home entertainment, business and education environments. Being the inventor and leader is simply a great bonus of making the presentation of ideas, information, and entertainment a vivid, unforgettable experience.

With over 1.5 million projectors sold, in a category that is expected to grow to $10 billion in revenue and more than 9 million units in 2007, we believe our product contributions set the standard for what a big picture experience should be like. For more information, visit us at www.infocus.com or call us toll-free at 800-294-6400 (U.S. and Canada).

InFocus, ASK, Proxima, ASK Proxima, LiteShow, ScreenPlay and LP are trademarks or registered trademarks of InFocus Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries. Digital Light Processing and DLP are trademarks of Texas Instruments.

Contacts


InFocus Corporation
Pam Judge, 503-570-8337 (Public Relations)
pam.judge@infocus.com
Roger Rowe, 503-685-8609 (Investor Relations)
roger.rowe@infocus.com
or
Edelman
Julie Brown, 503-471-6805 (Public Relations)
julie.brown@edelman.com
post #46 of 4267
"A 12 piece lens element literally means that there are 12 separate optical discs arranged in one lens housing. Nope, its not overkill...it really improves image, contrast, color separation, etc. This lens "grouping" is probably most famous in the classic Leica lenses that employ 7 distinct optics in one small 50mm lens housing."

Not to pick on this quote specificially (it was the last one mentioning the lens structure, that's all) -- in brief, lens construction consists of elements and groups. Elements are the actual lenses/pieces of glass/plastic/etc. within the lens unit. A group generally refers to the resulting optic when two or more elements are cemented together (although a single element can make up a single group). For example, most achromatic magnifiers are made up of a triplet -- three elements in one group.

Lens designers end up employing more elements because it's easier to manufacture spherically-ground lenses, which aren't necessarily color-corrected (e.g. different wavelengths of light will be refracted at different angles by any given spherically-ground lens). Ever pick up a magnifying glass, and see how the image's edges are somewhat smeary, and sometimes exhibit color fringing? Camera lenses and other optical devices don't generally use a single element, in order to control corners & color.

Upshot (to me, at least): twelve elements means ... it's twelve elements. Without an actual diagram, it's impossible to compare this lens design to classic camera/optic designs. In fact, you could even make the point that adding elements might contribute to flare and loss of contrast, but most modern optical coatings make that a moot point.


Cheers, Mike
post #47 of 4267
That PR is so full of hot air it could float.
post #48 of 4267
Interesting that the MSRP for the IN76 is now $2999 versus the rumored $2499. But at least it does NOT say that the IN76 is only available from authorized custom home theater dealers.
post #49 of 4267
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Originally Posted by Grubert View Post

That PR is so full of hot air it could float.

For example...............
post #50 of 4267
I have read where the original price of the IN76 was to be $2,999 but was then dropped to $2,499. Is it possible this is a typo from the original press release?
If it is coming in at $2,999, it will make a difference to people like myself who were hoping to find a street price less than $2,000. I may end up looking for the older 7200.
post #51 of 4267
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Originally Posted by hhawk View Post

I have read where the original price of the IN76 was to be $2,999 but was then dropped to $2,499. Is it possible this is a typo from the original press release?

There definitely seems to be some confusion on this point! from the UK's Hidden Wires:
News

InFocus PLAY BIG: Coming to a Home Near You in 2006 (4/1/2006)

Impressive high definition images no longer come from a boring, gray box. The InFocus Play Big suite of home projectors make jaws drop and heads turn by transforming the average viewing experience into a massive event. Reminiscent of attending your first rock concert or scoring courtside seats, InFocus Play Big allows consumers to relive the excitement, emotion and expansiveness of every entertainment experience.

The latest Play Big projector series from InFocus includes enhanced and high definition models using the latest DLP(r) technology, designed to magnify every viewing experience Whether looking for a front row seat during Monday night football, or hosting an Oscar party, the InFocus Play Big projectors make watching the average TV screen a mundane, ordinary - if not disappointing, experience.

At a fraction of the cost of other big screen video technologies such as plasma or direct view LCD, the InFocus Play Big home projectors produce a stunning image projected onto a wall or theater screen, ranging from 60" (5 feet) to 140" (11 1/2 feet) in diagonal with an image brightness reaching beyond movie theater standards.

All this in a clean, sculptural package that can be proudly displayed in any home environment. The high-gloss black finish, satin chrome accents and curved lines make a style statement whether the lights are turned up or down.

From movie buffs who want to stay home and parents looking to give their video-gaming children the big screen experience, to sports fans wanting to feel the intensity of every punt, swing, and foul, the InFocus Play Big projectors bring precision and detail that is nearly impossible to duplicate with other viewing technologies.

Whether living in a funky, uptown loft or a McMansion with a dedicated home theater, the InFocus Play Big projectors can transform any night into an intense, full-bodied viewing experience.

* InFocus Play Big IN72 Bringing home theater to the everyday consumer. With the InFocus Play Big IN72, design meets digital projection in the form of an innovative, 480p enhanced definition front video projector that brings a new dimension to the home entertainment experience. Pricing $1,299.

* InFocus Play Big IN74 Developed to provide a flexible, easy to use home theater solution, the InFocus Play Big IN74 is for custom dealers looking to magnify customers' large-screen viewing experiences including gaming, entertaining and movie nights. The IN74 provides native 16:9 resolution in the United States as well as in Wide PAL countries making it attractive to a worldwide audience. Pricing $1,699.

* InFocus Play Big IN76 Moving the bar on home entertainment. The InFocus Play Big IN76 provides native 720p high definition for the dedicated purpose of entertaining friends and family. Built with the award-winning engineering of InFocus' five-year legacy in home theater projection, the new IN76 is part of the revolutionary new home design platform. Pricing $2,499.

The InFocus Play Big projectors will be available in Q1 2006.

www.infocushome.com
post #52 of 4267
Any word on whether there will be any lens shift capability, or what the zoom range will be? I really hope I don't regret buying my Panny 900 at the end of November. I loved the InFocus 7205 picture, but the price was too high, the fan was too loud (I live at 7600', so need the high altitude setting), and the lack of lens shift and minimal zoom nixed it. The IN76 seems to have addressed the price and noise issues (if we're to believe the reports); if they nailed the trifecta with some useable lens shift/zoom, I'm going to be sad.

-Sean
post #53 of 4267
Mountain Sean,

Wow, 7600'!

Quite intrigued, I clicked on your public profile, but there is nothing there...
Are you an astro-physicist?

Mike
post #54 of 4267
i can't wait until they update their site and give us some throw math
post #55 of 4267
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Originally Posted by billymac View Post

i can't wait until they update their site and give us some throw math

Exactly!! A large offset like the one on the Mits3000 will be a deal killer. Hopefully they will think of us folks with 8' ceilings. I'm holding off my Panny900 purchase until after CES.
post #56 of 4267
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Originally Posted by MikeSer View Post

Mountain Sean,

Wow, 7600'!

Quite intrigued, I clicked on your public profile, but there is nothing there...
Are you an astro-physicist?

Mike

Ha, no, but funny you should ask - that's what my degree is in, though I'm afraid it's not my profession (datacenter manager). I just live in a small town outside of Colorado Springs that sits up in the hills a bit. I know of at least one projector owner (a BenQ 7700) who lives even farther up the mountain than I do - I'm guessing his house is at 8,500'. The high altitude issue is the main reason I didn't even demo the Optoma line - they don't recommend using their PJ's about about 6,000' regardless of fan settings. Probably one reason why they're so quiet though - they don't run the fan too fast it seems.

-Sean
post #57 of 4267
I'm glad I waited but hot DAMN I'm sick of waiting. I want this to come out, now! Hopefully 1st quarter = Mid January...
post #58 of 4267
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Originally Posted by isamu View Post

I want this to come out, now!

Well, we'll know in a couple days! All will be public as soon as CES opens on Thursday.
post #59 of 4267
Sean,

I think you could use any projector if you build a hush-box using large low-rpm fans.
Just a thought.
My H31 is relatively quiet, but I wish it were quieter.
It also leaks light badly.

Unfortunately, I am too busy/too lazy to build a hush-box...

Mike
post #60 of 4267
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

There definitely seems to be some confusion on this point!

I wouldn't trust a British site on what US costs will be. Furthermore, the other press release was clearly written by InFocus and they would know. I was having a seriously hard time imagining how an IN76 was going to be only $2500 retail. I'm still having difficulty with only $3K.
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