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post #31 of 4647
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Originally Posted by lmarkoff View Post

Ummm.... That's a review of the 50XR4. We are talking about the next generation, XR5. One hopes it will be even better.

OOps, my bad, these numbers are all confusing.
post #32 of 4647
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Originally Posted by lipcrkr View Post

Why does the 42" has some extra features that the 50" doesn't?
Also, what does it mean when it says it accepts 1080p?

Don't know the answer to the first question.

The second question I'll answer soon. I assume the specs mean what they say, though.
I have a processor that will output 1080p so I guess we'll see soon...

It's close according to the tracking info.
post #33 of 4647
Well, I have had my 50xr5 for a week now. Being my first plasma, I have taken a slow approach. Watched a copy of DVD, and the PQ is great. SD, I will get Comcast in next week w/ HD package, I just finishing reading the manual. Now I have to read it again to understand what I am doing. I am changing contrast/. Brightness Just for break in. However, I am not sure why I would want to change the picture all that much, currently it's great. Also not -one dead pixzel-
I want calibrate for two setting. Bright daylight watching and night Movie experience.
A neighbor came over on Christmas day and we watched a little of LOR- he asked "what are we watching" because it was better than the movie house.
I am haveing trouble programing my Harmony remote- it has take a very long time to sync. I sent an email to harmony to see if the xr5 is supported in thier system{new at this}
db
post #34 of 4647
It sounds like the 50XR5 does not ship with a stand but they do offer optional PX-ST2U swivel pedestal stand. Did anyone order this stand with there 42XR5 or 50XR5? I'd be interesting knowing the color (I believe it is silver) and how many degrees or inches from the edge, it swivels back from when centered. I also thought it was a little pricey at ~$300 list but I guess it is because it swivels.

It sounds like there were two major issues with last year's 50XR4, black level and image retention. It would be interesting to hear if these areas have been improved on the 50XR5. I would also like to know how the detail and noise looks in dark areas. Another excellent test if you have AVIA or DVE disk, is to look at the linear gray scale ramp test pattern. It should be smooth from dark to light with no bands or color variation.
post #35 of 4647
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Originally Posted by DAB View Post

Well, I have had my 50xr5 for a week now. Being my first plasma, I have taken a slow approach. Watched a copy of DVD, and the PQ is great. SD, I will get Comcast in next week w/ HD package, I just finishing reading the manual. Now I have to read it again to understand what I am doing. I am changing contrast/. Brightness Just for break in. However, I am not sure why I would want to change the picture all that much, currently it's great. Also not -one dead pixzel-
I want calibrate for two setting. Bright daylight watching and night Movie experience.
A neighbor came over on Christmas day and we watched a little of LOR- he asked "what are we watching" because it was better than the movie house.
I am haveing trouble programing my Harmony remote- it has take a very long time to sync. I set an email to harmony to see if the xr5 is in thier system{new at this}
db

Hey congrats on your panel.
In nearly three years I have not at all made any changes to the settings, eventually for curiosity played around a bit with them, but nothing major. I had set up the white screen to stay on for a few minutes in early morning a few times a week, alternating with the other screen with the white bar going side to side. Actually this has not been on for a while now, but I think it is a simple cautious thing to do, not sure at all necessary though.

As the the Harmony, my guess would be that they don't yet have it in their DB, but there is a good chance the prior models codes will work just as well. I suggest look at their db and pick the latest model you find (XR4 ? whatever) and give it a try. In my case to tell you the truth I don't recall what I did, but never had any trouble with 659-->XM2 and I only use the remote when I need to zoom to eliminate bars.

Enjoy and good luck with the remote !
post #36 of 4647
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Originally Posted by GamerGuy View Post

Actually, I was serious . Do you think initially leaving it on so long will hurt it or something?

I thought the sooner I get past the 100-->1000 hours, the sooner I won't have to worry about image retention when I use it with my pc and whatnot? I would rather not have to be mindful of such a thing for a long period of time if I can get past that break-in period quickly and not need to be concerned with it again.


Ok, I would think it is not necessary in general, however since you mention PC usage then some extra caution might be a good idea. In general I certainly would not even use a PC very much at all for the first 100 hours or so (note however that my experience is limited to my model, the XM2, which is pretty old).

I just would not though leave such a large electronic component on for so long w/o being around. This is no expert advice, just letting you know, I would not feel confortable.
post #37 of 4647
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Originally Posted by mhfnet View Post

It sounds like the 50XR5 does not ship with a stand but they do offer optional PX-ST2U swivel pedestal stand. Did anyone order this stand with there 42XR5 or 50XR5? I'd be interesting knowing the color (I believe it is silver) and how many degrees or inches from the edge, it swivels back from when centered. I also thought it was a little pricey at ~$300 list but I guess it is because it swivels.

No stand Included. (ClickHere) for more info on stand. The stand info in on page 6 of 10. This is the installation guide for the NEC 50XR5. The stand is silver. Aluminum construction. Yes it is pricy but better than a plastic stand for a hundred less.

post #38 of 4647
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

No stand Included. (ClickHere) for more info on stand. The stand info in on page 6 of 10. This is the installation guide for the NEC 50XR5. The stand is silver. Aluminum construction. Yes it is pricy but better than a plastic stand for a hundred less.

Thanks Chris, for the information and pictures. Wow this thing is gorgeous on the stand with speakers! The info on the stand doesn't tell you how many degrees it swivels, any idea?
post #39 of 4647
Just confirmed my XR5 will be here tomorrow...good thing I took the day off I plan on playing with this thing all day and trying to put together a review on all the big topics (SD,HD,DVD, Image Retention, Blacks, Stretch Modes, etc.). Please let me know if you would like me to hit on something else specifically.
post #40 of 4647
So is the # at the end indicative of its generation? 50" being the 5th, 42" and 61" are 4th generation?
post #41 of 4647
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Originally Posted by tony17 View Post

Just confirmed my XR5 will be here tomorrow...good thing I took the day off I plan on playing with this thing all day and trying to put together a review on all the big topics (SD,HD,DVD, Image Retention, Blacks, Stretch Modes, etc.). Please let me know if you would like me to hit on something else specifically.


Pics.... buddy, pics .
An extended review would be very helpful, as there are none so far. This is the time for you to earn a name in this arena
Seems like every one is stingy as far as pics are concerned.
post #42 of 4647
Is this display an internet only purchase or are there B&M stores carryinging it?
post #43 of 4647
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Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post

Pics.... buddy, pics .
An extended review would be very helpful, as there are none so far. This is the time for you to earn a name in this arena
Seems like every one is stingy as far as pics are concerned.


You know what, I would love to provide pics, but I hate the way you have to reduce them in order to post them here (althought I certainly understand why they have the restrictions). If someone would be kind enough to let me post pics on their site that I can create a link to, or even just send them the pics and have them post links to them for me...I'm all for it. I think I can borrow my neighbors camera too, as mine is an old 3.2mp which probably won't do it any justice.

Please PM me if you would be willing to host the pics for me.
post #44 of 4647
Done....
post #45 of 4647
My stand arrived today. The panel should be here tomorrow.
Are you ready for some football?
post #46 of 4647
Just wanted to chime in and add my name to the list of soon-to-be 50XR5 owners. Chris at Cleveland Plasmas informed me that mine will ship the 2nd - just 2 business days after the order was finalized!

I've been enjoying a 42" commercial ED for nearly 3 years now, but wanted to move up to a 50" display for a while. After playing the waiting game with the Panny 8UK and the Pio Elite (just removed myself from the waiting list), I decided to give the NEC a try. I'm especially interested in the ability to do native rate over HDMI, since I run 2 HTPC's in the house now. More on that, along with my overall opinions (and pics, of course) after I receive the display.

Meanwhile, looking forward to hearing/seeing more from others as they receive their displays. As mhfnet said, this could end up being one on the most popular threads on the forum. Exciting times!

Dave
post #47 of 4647
http://www.necvisualsystems.com/registration/applicationFiles/Forms/Registration.cfm?errmsg=%20Invalid%20serial%20number%20forma t%20(5Y00001).
You can register your new plasma 50XR5A at the NEC and get your warranty activated.

The picture improves few hours after use.May be by warm up or by electronic break in.

The NEC product literature gives adequate information about first 100 hours of use.

The stand which comes with the Plasma TV is worth the cost of 250 dollars. It is well made.
Connections to the 50 inches are more easier on the rear as they are one side of the rear panel and there is no need to get in to the back of the T>V>

Compared my neighbourers Panasonic my NEC 50 XR5 is better. Only comapred with the standard def Dish network T.V.
Will get Dish HDTV receiver when the new 642 receiver MPEG 4 will be available- Probably FEB 06.
post #48 of 4647
Anyone know if they're putting out a new ED model? I can't find one on their website...
post #49 of 4647
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Originally Posted by TheCMB View Post

Anyone know if they're putting out a new ED model? I can't find one on their website...

NEC has no plans to change the ED model.
post #50 of 4647
There are few stickers on the box(package card bord) with the product serial number and one on the rear of the T.V.
There is a also a long life mode in the menu.
So far in the sd
there is no clay face.Good gradation of colors that are natural Not shiny or glaring
Will try few DVDs this weekend
No fan noise.
post #51 of 4647
what are the stretch modes for SD programming?
post #52 of 4647
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Originally Posted by tony17 View Post

Just confirmed my XR5 will be here tomorrow...good thing I took the day off I plan on playing with this thing all day and trying to put together a review on all the big topics (SD,HD,DVD, Image Retention, Blacks, Stretch Modes, etc.). Please let me know if you would like me to hit on something else specifically.

One less than obvious thing which I'm interested in is the effectiveness of the anti-glare coating. Thanks!
post #53 of 4647
Count me in as someone who is eagerly awaiting a comparison to the Panasonic commercial plasma. I was about to pull the trigger on a 42PHD8UK but, since they are out of stock anyway, I may hold off and see how people fare with the NEC.
post #54 of 4647
The XR5 is the new model right? And the XR4 is the previous model right? So, is there a 42" XR5 coming out?
post #55 of 4647
Depends on the size of the unit. New models are as follows:

Home models:

42" PX-42XR4
50" PX-50XR5
61" PX-61XR4

Consumer models:

42" PX-42XM4
50" PX-50XM5
61" PX-61XM4

The main difference between the Home and Commercial units are the price, warranty time, Bezel color, and inputs. (XM serious has a lower cost, plain black bezel, 1 year warranty overall, and 1 DVI input, all the other inputs are the same.)
post #56 of 4647
How about a review from somone who owns the 50XR5?
post #57 of 4647
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Originally Posted by scmguru View Post

How about a review from somone who owns the 50XR5?

I just spoke to the delivery folks. It should be here around 1 o'clock today.
I have my stand all ready to go so I should have it up and running fairly quickly. I'll try to provide an initial impression as soon as I can today.

For someone who asked before, the pedestal stand will rotate 10 degrees each way. It's all aluminum construction and very sturdy. That's the extent of my review so far.
post #58 of 4647
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Originally Posted by cpcat View Post

For someone who asked before, the pedestal stand will rotate 10 degrees each way. It's all aluminum construction and very sturdy. That's the extent of my review so far.

Good start!
post #59 of 4647
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Originally Posted by lmarkoff View Post

Ummm.... That's a review of the 50XR4. We are talking about the next generation, XR5. One hopes it will be even better.

So is the 42XR4 the same as the 50XR5 or is it a previous gen? Just wondering why the 50 is the only XR5?

Also, does anyone with a new XR5 (or 42XR4 if it is the same) notice any excessive noise. Any buzzing or fan noise? I know someone said they didn't notice any fan noise but I am wondering if anyone else does. Thanks!
post #60 of 4647
Thread Starter 
From the things I've read about the Panasonic and NEC plasmas on this forum, I figure it would be a good idea to list the negatives that seem to be associated with both products for comparison. Here is my list so far...

NEC:

1. Image retention (more-so than Panasonic)
2. Lesser black levels than Panasonic

Panasonic:

1. Green push
2. More reflective panels than NEC (bad for rooms with significant light)
3. Duller whites than NEC
4. Floats blacks
5. Crappy tuners (although not a concern if not getting one with a tuner)

Anyone have other problems to add to the lists?
It will be good to find out how these problems have been addressed on the new NEC's. I suspect image retention would be even less of an issue, but I'm still curious to know exactly how the black levels compare to Panasonic?
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