**Official RBH Owner's Thread** - Page 11

Dont forget to look into the 661 se/r's which arent listed on RBH's site. I use them in a vertical setup behind a transparent screen.


On a side note, its getting to that upgrade time for me and Im at the point where I want all RBH. Im set with the front and subs but now need to start looking into the surrounds. I want the direct(not bipole), but they are a little to big for my setup.
Anyone have any luck with the inwalls? Something comparable to the 61se's????

The SI-760s are the in-wall equivilent to the 661-SE. They sound very good. I'd recommend installing them with the back box. RBH also makes a reference version, SI-760/R if you are thinking about a serious upgrade.

I may be more interested in the 740's due to space constraints.
RBH's website is terrible on these, can you describe what part goes in the wall etc.?

I have my SI-760's up for sale btw: http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=38597

The overall enclosures dimensions for the SI-740 and SI-760 are the same. SI-740 is used more so for surround application.

This price is a steal especially since RBH just increased their prices.

Cheers.

Sorry, I guess my response didn't really answer your question.

Look here: http://www.rbhsound.com/si760.shtml

The enclosure dimensions are 28" H x 14" W x 3-1/2" D which means they fit between standard 16" center studs.

The units come with black cloth grill covers. However, you can get the optional metal grills which come in white and are paintable. This is an excellent option in case you want to paint them to match your wall and blend in. My wife loves that idea!

Jim

Actually you were very helpful but I still think I just want to go with the 740's.
I see they sell the enclosures separately. Is that something you have to have?
Do you think the /R is necessary for the surrounds?
And last but not least... why are you getting rid of your RBH?

Yes you must use the enclosures.

The reference line is basically the status acoustics versions which cost quite a bit more. To really benefit from the reference line you should be using separates and have some pretty darn good equipment. IMO, you either get all reference versions or all signature version. Avoid mixing the two.

When making your decision, keep in mind that the SI-740 retails for $530. The Si-740/R retails for $950.

I'm an RBH dealer and these are my home demos. So basically I'm always fiddling etc.... I will likely replace them with SI-6000 or 6100 reference line.

Jim

Thanks, Im using the 661 se/r for my front three. You really think I need to use the R's for the surrounds?

I didn't say you need to use the reference line. I said you should use them.

But if you were to mix the two then you would want the reference line to be your L/C/R and then use whatever surrounds you choose.

I also don't know your listening preferences. For example I don't know if you listen to SACD or DVD Audio or prefer to listen to 5 channel music?

If you're a movie guy then you won't notice much of a difference with the surrounds.

Thanks Jim!

Other than different "reference" drivers and tweeters and .5 pounds, what's the difference between the regular 661-SE and the 661-SE/R? Published specs are exactly the same for both.

Seems kind of goofy to me to pay $400 more per speaker for not much gain.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...signature-se-r
Here is a link to a review from Audioholics on the se/r speakers.
Allen

Just because the numbers are the sames does not mean that they sound the same. Having listened to both of them I know that there is a big difference between them. Even my wife can tell the difference.

Please read the Audioholics review above for a more detailed description on the difference.

Here is a link to the 661-SE/R on RBH's website. It is not in the drop down menu but if you click on the Products tab it will give you links to all of the current RBH products.

http://www.rbhsound.com/661ser.shtml

Do to space and money constraints, I may be leaning to the 41-SE's for surrounds.
Anybody out there using these for surounds? I would of preferred the 61-SE/R's or the inwall equivalent but they may not be in the cards.
Opinions?

Hi everyone. I am new to the forum but have browsed it many times in the past and came across the RBH thread today and had to join.

I love RBH Sound speakers, they sound perfect and look beautiful. Im glad to find people that know who RBH is and what a good product the make.

I currently have:
2 T-30LSE
2 1044-SE
2 44-SE
1 661SE
1 441SE
1 12-SEP subwoofer
2 SA-400 sub amps

I currently only use the T30SLE with the SA400 amps for the lower half, 44SE and the 661SE.

All finished in South American Rosewood.

What amps would you all recommend using for the rest of the speakers? Price is a concern also (I know that sounds stupid for someone with $20,000+ in speakers). Also my reciever is kinda old and only capable of 5.1 channel surround so i am not able to use all the speakers but, should I use my 1044SE instead of the 44SE for surround?

Let me know what ya think.

!!!!! Damn!!!!

Welcome!

Why the mismatch in speaker choices.\\?

Can you give us your current setup including all components.

Well the mismatched part is because the speakers were all given to me as gifts over the past few years so I started out with the 1044SE's then added the 44SE and the 441SE a while later and then got the sub.. Then last year I got the T-30SLE's as a wedding gift from some very very nice people, so now I am slowly upgrading the rest of the speakers to match the size. I am hopefully getting a t1 center later this year aswell as upgrading to the 66SE surround. If I get the T1 I will use the 661SE that I have for the rear center I guess and I dont know about the left right rear yet.

As far as the rest of the components I just have a sony STR-DE825 reciever that is ancient with the 2 SA400 amps for the bottom half of the t-30SLE's. The reciever will be upgraded to something around $1500 when I can along with getting the amps for the rest of the speakers if I should.

btw add me to RBH club, 661 SE's across the front and a pair of 41SE's for surrounds (LOVE THEM!). Just picked up a Pioneer Elite VSX-94TXH (replacing a Denon AVR-4306) and am bi-amping the 661's. Just out of curiosity does anyone know if the 661's are 4 ohm or 6 ohm? I looked on the web site and they say they are 6 ohm but on the back of the speaker it says 4 ohm. Just wondering if I am going to need to reconfigure my receiver to low impedance mode.

thanks

When you order the rest of your speakers you need to get the Reference line to match the T-30's. By the way that's one hell of a wedding gift!

So basically you're looking at T-1/R, 66-SE/R etc...

While the SA-400's can certainly drive the lower portion of the T-30's, you're not getting the full benefit of these outstanding subs.

You should be using a pre-amp/amp setup with this system. Right now your system has the potential of being a Ferrari but you're using it to get groceries.

The 661-SEs have an impedence of 4 Ohms and the 41-SEs are 8 Ohms. This is directly from RBH's published techincal specs for the Signature Series.

Sounds like you must have "married up".

I agree, very impressive. Not just because of the price, but due to the fact someone must have known what they were doing (or dedicated a fair amount of time) to find such a nice speaker selection.

interesting on the web site here: http://www.rbhsound.com/661se.shtml it says that its 6ohms but in the product literature it mentions that its 4ohms I am gonna send them an email make sure this gets straightened out

okay so I got a response for RBH, apparently the newer 661SE's are 6ohm but older versions are indeed 4ohms. So both sources are correct in a way. They said that the product literature would also be updated soon to reflect the change to 6ohms.

Quick question - I'm trying to buy a pair of used MC6-CT speakers... given the fact they came out quite a few years back, do I have to worry about age-related issues? I couldn't find what materials they're made from. Thanks for any advice - I have an Energy Take 5 set and will keep those as rears/center but now have enough room for some larger speakers and these seemed like a good set.

You might want to figure out how old they are. See is you can get a serial number off of them, then call RBH diretly. They can tell you when they were manufactured and if there has been any significant modifications to the units since then. BTW, I wouldn't pay more the 7 bills for for a used set of MC-6CTs and that's assuming they are in good condition.

Im still leaning towards the 41 se's, but how would you mount these to a wall or ceiling?

If I recall you are wanting to mount the 41 SEs horizonal up near the ceiling. There are brackets you can buy to mount bookshelf speakers. They generally come in an L-shape, the of the bracket is mounts to the wall with screws and them the speaker sit on top of "foot" of the L shape and is generally screwed in to secure it.

If it was me, I'd get some rigid Z channel at HD, mount one short piece about 10" lomg on the wall with the open end of the channel facing up and another piece (the same size) on the speaker with the open channel facing down. The speaker should then just slide over and be supported by the bracket on the wall. Mount some rubber pads on the bottom corners of the speakers to reduce the vibration.

We are planning on remodelling our family room as a home theater. Although the remodelling itself is still in the early concept/planning stages, I've been buying all the new equipment, including a new 7.1 channel receiver.

At this point it's not clear yet if we will be using my existing bookshelf speakers for the front or doing in-walls (depends on the remodelling design), but for sure we are doing in-ceilings for the 4 surround and surround back channels.

One of my main concerns when choosing in-wall/in-ceiling speakers are "open baffle" designs. In our situation, the ceiling of the family room is a 2' thick floor truss system between the 1st and 2nd floors. I'd think that with that all space being open, the sound from 4 "open baffle" speakers would just all bleed together. Even if the situation was different, I can't comprehend how you can predict the performance and response of an open baffle speaker with the infinate possibilities of what consitutes the "open baffle" space. The bottom line is that I'm much more a fan of a closed box design.

After reading on here a bit, I'm contemplating going with RBH MC-615 in-ceiling speakers w/ BC-6R enclosures. It's the size/type of speaker I have in mind, and it's in my desired price range. So I'm after some opinions on these speakers, as well as any other comparable options I should consider.

Also, I'm after information on authorized RBH dealers who carry them at a decent price (or that give AVS forum members a deal).

Thanks!

- Jay