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post #301 of 6694
hi

Much like other people have mentioned I would like to thank everyone on these forums for their help. It makes my decision making much more educated.

I am far from an audiophile but I just got the Mirage 550's and a C150 yesterday from Crutchfield. (PS...very pleased...ordered on Wednesday at 2:30 and had them at my door Thursday at 1:00)

Wasn't planning on buying speakers but the pricing was hard to resist. Just bought the Onkyo 705 and a PS3 for Bluray so I decided to change everything ...within some budget limits of course.

So far I am thrilled with the sound. I am using the original Omnisat's for the surround and an older 12" Polk pwred Sub and it works very well. I had a pair of Infinity Reference speakers and a Polk Center that I thought sounded great.....but not close to this great.

Sure there's certainly better stuff but for the money I am very very pleased with this setup.

PS --- if you buy the 550's or 350's take off the plastic cap on the dome tweeter....unlike someone I won't mentioned that didn't notice them beforehand and didnt take them off ...(me).
post #302 of 6694
Looking for a bit of advice...

While assembling my (small, 12'x13') home theater I came across some Mirage Omnisat V1 satellites being clearanced out (80% off list) and bought three of them to use basically as my front right, center and front left channels.

Now I am seeing that Crutchfield is selling the Omni 150's for what looks like a bargain price as well.

While I love the Omnisats I have to wonder if I would be better off with the Omni 150's for a home theater setup as the specs for the 150's make them out to be better than the Omnisats (5 1/2" vs 4 1/2" woofers, better range, etc.)

I also wonder why the Omni 150's are so much less expensive than the Omnisat satellites when they are larger and have more of a dynamic range, at least according to the specs listed for both speakers.

Being fairly new to this brand I am hoping someone here might be able to shed a little light onto this.
post #303 of 6694
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Originally Posted by luclin999 View Post

Looking for a bit of advice...

While assembling my (small, 12'x13') home theater I came across some Mirage Omnisat V1 satellites being clearanced out (80% off list) and bought three of them to use basically as my front right, center and front left channels.

Now I am seeing that Crutchfield is selling the Omni 150's for what looks like a bargain price as well.

While I love the Omnisats I have to wonder if I would be better off with the Omni 150's for a home theater setup as the specs for the 150's make them out to be better than the Omnisats (5 1/2" vs 4 1/2" woofers, better range, etc.)

I also wonder why the Omni 150's are so much less expensive than the Omnisat satellites when they are larger and have more of a dynamic range, at least according to the specs listed for both speakers.

Being fairly new to this brand I am hoping someone here might be able to shed a little light onto this.

Where did you get your V1's? I need a couple to replace 2 of my old ones, and I have not had any luck finding them! If you get the 150's, I would be interested in buying your V1's.
post #304 of 6694
Well I haven't committed to changing them out for the Omni 150's just yet. At this point I am just trying to figure out if the 150's would sound better and why the Onmisats MSRP is set so much higher than the 150's.

However, from looking at Mirage's website it looks like the components in the Omnisats are of higher quality than the Omni 150's.

Omni 150: Fiberglass woofer and aluminum tweeter

vs.

Omnisat: Polypropylene Titanium woofer and titanium- hybrid tweeter

Which may answer at least part of my question however I am still curious as to which one sounds better.
post #305 of 6694
Can anybody give me a little advice?

Right now I have 7.1 with the nanosat system - including a regular nano for my Center Channel. I find that most dialog is not as clear as I would like, so I'm thinking of upgrading my center channel.

I know it's best to keep all the speakers the same (nanos with nanos) but i came across the Omni-C150 & the OmniSat v2-CC on their site & now it has got me thinking.

Can I upgrade to one of these Centers & not effect my current sound too much? Remember I'm not happy with most of the dialog anyway

PS: I'm waiting for my Onkyo 905 to arrive

PPS is there really a differnece in the Nano center & the regular center
post #306 of 6694
please help just want to know if anyone has reviews on this mirage speaker the uni-theater series....thanks
post #307 of 6694
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Originally Posted by upsfeedr View Post

please help just want to know if anyone has reviews on this mirage speaker the uni-theater series....thanks

Here are some professional reviews that have been done.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/compac...age/index.html

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...er-system.html
post #308 of 6694
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Originally Posted by bello1971 View Post

Can anybody give me a little advice?

Right now I have 7.1 with the nanosat system - including a regular nano for my Center Channel. I find that most dialog is not as clear as I would like, so I'm thinking of upgrading my center channel.

I know it's best to keep all the speakers the same (nanos with nanos) but i came across the Omni-C150 & the OmniSat v2-CC on their site & now it has got me thinking.

Can I upgrade to one of these Centers & not effect my current sound too much? Remember I'm not happy with most of the dialog anyway

PS: I'm waiting for my Onkyo 905 to arrive

PPS is there really a differnece in the Nano center & the regular center

If you are going for an upgrade, the Omnsat v2-CC would be your best tonal match since it uses the same driver materials and is a sealed cabinet design like the Nanos. The Omni-C150 will give you direct presentation of dialog to the listening area since it is not an omnidirectional design, but it will not be the most ideal tonal match for the Nanos since it uses completely different drivers. Through the pages of this thread, you will find some others who share your complaints that an omnidirectional center channel lacks the clarity of a direct-radiating center channel.

There really is no difference between a Nano Center and a regular Nanosat; the Nano Center is a satellite dressed up in a center channel's clothes. According to my Mirage rep, the reason for Mirage's decision to release the Nano Center is that in their market research many people want their center channel to be in a wide, horizontally-oriented cabinet.

Hope this helps and happy listening!
post #309 of 6694
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Originally Posted by luclin999 View Post

Well I haven't committed to changing them out for the Omni 150's just yet. At this point I am just trying to figure out if the 150's would sound better and why the Onmisats MSRP is set so much higher than the 150's.

However, from looking at Mirage's website it looks like the components in the Omnisats are of higher quality than the Omni 150's.

Omni 150: Fiberglass woofer and aluminum tweeter

vs.

Omnisat: Polypropylene Titanium woofer and titanium- hybrid tweeter

Which may answer at least part of my question however I am still curious as to which one sounds better.

The biggest difference is that the Omni-150s produce better bass response than the Omnisats due to the larger woofer and bass-reflex cabinet design. On the other hand, I feel the Omnisats have slightly better midrange presentation largely due to its acoustic suspension cabinet design. These are at least my impressions from listening to both; your overall impressions may vary.

As for the cost difference between the two, according to API, it is less expensive to engineer and build a ported speaker out of MDF than it is to engineer and build a sealed speaker out of aluminum as there are more acoustic considerations to take into account. You will see this principle follow suit in their others lines, Athena and Energy, as well. As a dealer for all three API brands, I get this question alot.

Hope this helps and happy listening!
post #310 of 6694
hey guys... well i have just spent 10 months piecing together a mirage theater in my 14x10 bedroom and i am wondering how the newer omnis fare against what i have.

currently i am running the omni 250's up front, omni cc center, omni 60 surround, omni fx rears and svs pb12-nsd.

right now i am sitting on about $1100 and ten months of ebay and audiogon. i love the setup i have now but would i get anything out of selling this all off and going with omi 550's, c150 and four 150's

this is for theater only and sub will be swapped out for the nsd/2 around Christmas time.
post #311 of 6694
tangent, that could be a downgrade, assuming the stuff you have is working fine. compare the materials and the original MSRP. the newer omni series was meant to hit a lower price point. is there some way in which it's not doing the job?

the only exception might be that the fx rears, which obviously can't generate much bass, but not worth changing for that.

enjoy the setup and try to get help with the upgrade-itis.
post #312 of 6694
hahaha... i guess the only thing i really want more is the omni 260's in place of my towers. i may also try and swap fx's for 50's they run about the same used.

nothing is wrong with my setup other then me being a bass head. i was just curious about the recent price drop on the new stuff and wondered if it was worth considering.

thank you for your reply.
post #313 of 6694
well, you can get the 260s on sale at Vanns for $200 each, new, if that's what you really want.
post #314 of 6694
wow.... i look at vanns about once a month and i never even sow them. i bought my 250's for 300 used. maybe this weekend, i just loaned out some money to a friend for a tv

thanks man.
post #315 of 6694
Hi All,

My first post. I'm a huge fan of Mirage specifically the Omnisat V1's. I have 5 in a home theater set up. I came across a wicked deal for the OM-C2 and OM-9's. I was wondering if it's worth the upgrade from the Omnisats? I know, i should hear the OM-9 and OM-C2 first and let me ears decide, but just wanted to know if you'd think it'd make a huge difference? Also, having a set of omnisats for rear surrounds with the OM's upfront, would that be okay? Would it be recommended?

I'll be driving with an RX-V661 receiver. Mainly using for home theater with a (say 20%) for music.
post #316 of 6694
So I just spent half the day listening to various HT setup and was initially very intrigued by the Omnisat setup due to their sleek design.....but after comparing them to other "regular" sized towers, I felt they were on the short end of the stick. The regular size PSB Image T55 tower sounded much fuller vs Omnisat v2 FS.

So I'm giving up on my quest to find the ultimate "slender" design HT and going w the standard sized spkrs.

I need a 5.1 setup (towers in front w small bookshelves in rear + cc) on a budget of ~ $2k or less.

1. Are the Omni series much fuller sounding than the Omnisats?
2. How does the Omni setup compare to av123 X-seris and BA VR2 setup? I believe all 3 are in same price range.
post #317 of 6694
I am close to ordering the Mirage Omni 550 speakers to either replace or accompany my Mirage Omnisat 60 Bookshelf speakers. I'd like to hear from other members who have the 550's and what you think of them as front mains - or another Mirage series you would recommend. I have a rather large, spacious room - 24'x15' so I need more power from my front speakers. I would also like to know if anyone has tried matching a Mirage Omni series with a different speaker brand and how that sounds. The CC is also Omni. Thanks.
post #318 of 6694
You can see my post at the top of the page...still in love with these.
post #319 of 6694
Does anybody have impressions of the 350. It seems like everybody here has gone with the 550?
I am thinking 350 because of it's smaller form factor(especially the width)
and my hope that it will have a more accurate midrange due to the smaller 5.5" speaker.
post #320 of 6694
bump for the 350?
post #321 of 6694
Well, despite the lack of activity and interest in these speakers I went ahead
and ordered the 350s, 150s and center 150 for a grand total of only $704.
Which is incredibly low price. We will see how they actually sound.
If i don't like them they will be sent back.

Which sub do you guys recommend?
Unfortunatley the deals on the Mirage omni subs aren't as good as the deals on the omni speakers.
post #322 of 6694
Congratulations! I have a Hsu Research VTF-2 that is awesome. I bought it at Videogon slightly used for $325.00. I guess if I had to replace this subwoofer, I would get an Omni S-10 or S-12 just to match it up with the rest of my system, even though it is not as important to match the subwoofer.
I noticed that you ordered a completely new system but all from the same Mirage Omni family. What I have been trying to find out - to no avail, not even from Mirage yet - is whether you can mix and match any of the Mirage speakers, regardless of series or do you have to stay within a certain series like you did.
post #323 of 6694
Malachi,

Ideally you want the speakers timbre matched so you should either buy 5 of the same speakers or at least stay in the same line.
So you probably wouldn't want to order a omni center and a OM left/right.
Having said that I have Mirage M3s which were $2500 in 1992 matched with their first center channel which was $170 and Mirage M260 bookshelves which were $260, and it sounds pretty good. The lower priced speakers do have have an edgier top end but I guess because they from the same family the voicing is pretty similiar.
post #324 of 6694
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Originally Posted by b4z View Post

Malachi,

Ideally you want the speakers timbre matched so you should either buy 5 of the same speakers or at least stay in the same line.
So you probably wouldn't want to order a omni center and a OM left/right.
Having said that I have Mirage M3s which were $2500 in 1992 matched with their first center channel which was $170 and Mirage M260 bookshelves which were $260, and it sounds pretty good. The lower priced speakers do have have an edgier top end but I guess because they from the same family the voicing is pretty similiar.

Thanks. So it stands to reason that either the Omni 260's or more current Omni 550's would match the system that I currently have, with or without the Omnisat 60's. Is that correct? Or are the Omnisats considered a different line altogether?
post #325 of 6694
This is crazy but I ordered them at 3pm and they are already being shipped and I have atracking numbers!

Malachi,

I haven't kept up with recent Mirage offferings but are talking about the smaller "sat" speakers? if you are obviously the bass would be more with the Omnis. I don't know which tweeter they used and if they are voiced the same.
I would imagine the mids and highs would be pretty similiar though.
post #326 of 6694
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Originally Posted by Malachi View Post

I am close to ordering the Mirage Omni 550 speakers to either replace or accompany my Mirage Omnisat 60 Bookshelf speakers. I'd like to hear from other members who have the 550's and what you think of them as front mains - or another Mirage series you would recommend. I have a rather large, spacious room - 24'x15' so I need more power from my front speakers. I would also like to know if anyone has tried matching a Mirage Omni series with a different speaker brand and how that sounds. The CC is also Omni. Thanks.

The 260s are a perfect match. New on sale at Vanns too. Only 2 left. New speakers, low price, free shipping. 93db efficiency, they should be plenty loud.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ures/542250059

Details on the older Omni line at the Mirage site:
http://www.miragespeakers.com/omni260.shtml

The 550s are not a perfect match, but they are going to be a better match than anything other than the 260s or 250s. For HT, you won't notice the difference between the front and rear. You might notice a difference between the 550s and the Omni CC - it's a very individual thing.
post #327 of 6694
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Originally Posted by b4z View Post

Which sub do you guys recommend? Unfortunatley the deals on the Mirage omni subs aren't as good as the deals on the omni speakers.

You should just choose the best sub you can get for the budget you have. No need for a Mirage. There are a number of suggestions in this thread for budget subs:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=809777 - but don't buy a Dayton

Lots of people seem to recommend an SVS or HSU sub. See the sub forum.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=113

Don't rush. Unless you're looking for lots of slam for HT, the 350s will have enough bass for music until you find the right sub. Set them up and see how you like it before you jump on a sub.
post #328 of 6694
buzzy_,

i have been into audio a long time and have never owned a sub, so trust me it won't be a capricious purchase.
The mirage subs have always had a good rep for music and that is more important to me than HT.
The M3s I have now are -2db @ 32Hz and -10db @ 25Hz, Never needed a sub!
I do think with the 350s going down to 40HZ(bass guitar territoty) that I won't need a sub formusic but will for HT.

I have pretty much decided on the omni S10 though. Should be more than enough for the 1812 Overture AND movies in my 12X22 room.
post #329 of 6694
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Originally Posted by buzzy_ View Post

The 260s are a perfect match. New on sale at Vanns too. Only 2 left. New speakers, low price, free shipping. 93db efficiency, they should be plenty loud.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ures/542250059

Details on the older Omni line at the Mirage site:
http://www.miragespeakers.com/omni260.shtml

The 550s are not a perfect match, but they are going to be a better match than anything other than the 260s or 250s. For HT, you won't notice the difference between the front and rear. You might notice a difference between the 550s and the Omni CC - it's a very individual thing.

Thanks alot. Your post was decisive because someone finally knew that the 260's are a perfect match for my system. I just bought the last two from Vann's at $199.00 each - a steal. Yeah! I can't wait to hear them.

post #330 of 6694
Good thing you bought them, because I was starting to think that I should!
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