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post #6301 of 6690
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

That's a ridiculous deal. The description is for a 300 watt power amplier.
Its like they didn't even know that thing was a subwoofer? Pretty awesome! Congrats on your purchase!

Thanks may need to buy a lotto ticket today lol. You are correct she had no idea what it was. I also fired it up and it works, just needs a good dusting since it's been in storage for years.
post #6302 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Nick_si View Post

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I've heard that Mirages from the "pre-waveguide" are darker than their waveguide shorn counterparts. I have no experience to back that statement up but it's what I recall reading... on the other hand those OM-9s are gorgeous so you should get them anyway!!!
On a related note (Mreim if you get those OM-9s you should weigh in) those of you who have the older bipolar and early "pre-waveguide" floor standing speakers, have you noticed an improvement with your speakers set a little closer to the wall than is normally recommended? I found my sweet spot to be about a foot off the wall, having moved them from about two feet and being disappointed with the midrange. This might be a specific case for me... I have the M790s which has a 4.5" rear facing so maybe hence the thin midrange?
Just looking for others experiences.

Thanks for the insight!
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Originally Posted by buzzy_ View Post

The only reason to get the OS3-FS speakers is if you want the slim sleek look. Not for sound quality. If you're even considering the OM-9s then you probably don't need the skinny OS3-FS.
The OM-9s are warmer and less detailed than the newer lines. I'm not sure just how cheap you're talking about, but the question might be whether to put the money toward something like OMD-15s, or even OMD-5s.
Or something else completely. Think about what's right for your needs and the room. Don't let the fact that you own an OS3-CC be a factor, you can always sell it. Vanns is selling the Energy RC-10 pair for $220 or so, shipped, a pair of those beat most of the options out there.
IMO 3 x OMD-5 and a sub is an excellent setup.
FYI:
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/mirage_om9_omc2_omr2_lf150_speaker.htm
http://www.uhfmag.com/Issue61/Mirage.html

There is a local guy selling a pair of the OM-9's for $250, which I could probably talk him into $200 but you are saying the RC-10's are the way to go? Even though I am looking for floorstanding? Would they gel with the OS3-CC until I was able to replace it? My room is just a strange size and the way I have everything arranged makes it even more awkward for a proper sound setup. That's why I have been gravitating towards the "Omnipolar" technology.
post #6303 of 6690
What about the Omni 150B's? I can get them locally for around $350
post #6304 of 6690
That's way too much for the Omni 150s. Not a great speaker, it was a low cost line that Mirage sold for a brief time. You could buy a pair of OMD 5s - which is a great speaker, their top line - for about that, those would be much better. Something to consider.

If the OM9's work for you and you like the way they sound, they're a much better option than the Omni 150s

FYI:
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/542280291
post #6305 of 6690
I just double checked and he has sold the OM9's. Now my options are:

2 x OMD-5 = $359.76

2 x OMNI150B = $250.00 (talked him down after I had a good long listen to them)

2 x RC-10 = $219.88? My question, which I hope you can answer, is will they work well enough with my OS3CC? Or will I need to replace my center? It was an impulse buy from a year ago when I was very much uninformed.
post #6306 of 6690
Again, I wouldn't let the fact that you bought a OS3CC drive your decisions. Start thinking from scratch. How big is your space, what's the layout, why do you think Omnipolar is the way to go?

OMD5s are easily that much better than Omni 150s. And they're new vs used. And if you can find a good deal on some OS2 or OS3 satellites, they are a match for the center. You just need to cross the sub carefully.
post #6307 of 6690
Here is a (crude) idea of my layout. The black line represents my TV and the circles are my front speaker positions. Like I said it's a very awkward setup. The couch has to stay where it is, and the TV has to stay where it is. This is why I figured an "Omnipolar" setup would be beneficial


post #6308 of 6690
It's not ideal, but a lot of people have a setup like that. You really could go either way on the speakers,direct firing or omnipolar, there's really only one listening position (the sofa). The other areas will get mostly the right speaker no matter what you do.

Similarly on floorstanding or bookshelf. If you have or can get a decent sub, and find a place for it, that's a small enough room that you'd do fine with book shelves (given that you can't really expect to cover the other areas well - listenable, but no surround effects, etc). Floor standers may be take up a lot of space in that room. But it really depends on what you want. What works better for you?

I'd suggest starting a thread in the main forum if you want more advice and options. May be someone who has a very similar setup. Use a meaningful title like "TV in corner, long room, options?" to catch people who have run into that before.
post #6309 of 6690
Here's an example of a direction you could go if you start with a clean slate, there are great deals on speakers from time to time:
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Originally Posted by ack_bk View Post

These are on a great sale at $199 each:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882156011
The matching center is hard to find a deal on:
http://www.kefdirect.com/q200c-centre-channel.html
This still puts you under $900 shipped and you will want to consider a subwoofer down the road no matter what for home theater.
For $400 you could get two of those and add to it over time.

So again, it depends on whether the OMD-5, RC-10 or KEFs seem more like the direction you want to go.
post #6310 of 6690
Awesome, thanks for the help!
post #6311 of 6690
Another thought is, the KEF's seem to pair well with the OMD's.
I seem to like the center stage of the KEF's than the Mirages.

My current setup is KEF Q900's+600c for center stage with OMD-15's for rears. Still setting them up but I haven't noticed any timbre mismatch for now. The mirages seems to be dispersing the sound in the rears much better than a directed speaker would give out - they function well for this purpose.
post #6312 of 6690
Nice setup, where did you purchase your OMD -C2 center speaker stand?
Your help would be greatly appreciatied You never said where you got your center channel stand, in your posting in Blueray theater it show DIY stand did you build it your self.
Edited by chokedog21 - 10/10/12 at 11:36pm
post #6313 of 6690
Are the OMD5s being slowly phased out? I would like to get at least get a pair of these for some rear surrounds. Ideally I'd like to get 4.
post #6314 of 6690
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

Are the OMD5s being slowly phased out?
Given that the only retailer of the Mirage OMD line for the past few years has been Vann's, and that Vann's is now in bankruptcy liquidation, "slowly being phased out" could be considered an understatement. In a few months, all OMD speakers might no longer be available. Get 'em while you can.
post #6315 of 6690
Well so much for waiting of them to go on sale. Guess I'll have to jump on these before I can't get them anymore.
post #6316 of 6690
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Originally Posted by lightbox View Post

Given that the only retailer of the Mirage OMD line for the past few years has been Vann's, and that Vann's is now in bankruptcy liquidation, "slowly being phased out" could be considered an understatement. In a few months, all OMD speakers might no longer be available. Get 'em while you can.
I talked to a customer rep from Klipsch and he said that the OMD line was being phased out because they are coming out with an new speaker line. I have been searching for 4 OMD-R speakers and the representative refered me to World Wide Stereo. I called them and they said that Klipsch was dissolving the company...dunno what to think.
post #6317 of 6690
It's not just the OMD line going away, the entire Mirage name is going to be history. Go back a few pages, there was plenty of postings. If you want them you better buy them now or forever hold your peace.
post #6318 of 6690
I'd be completely comfortable with buying new speakers on a credit card from Vanns, not withstanding their problems. Why not just do that?

I'd be a little more wary about the outlet stuff at this point, because I sometimes had to return stuff from the outlet - it wasn't what they described. I always managed to get them to take it back, but it wasn't always quick or easy.
post #6319 of 6690
I really like Mirage. I switched from Infinity to Mirage and never regreted the move. I guess if I cant find those OMD-Rs, I will just use the Energy VS surround speakers. Hell at this point I am contemplating switching to Energy of Definitive Technology
post #6320 of 6690
Hey Agent, what Mirage speakers do you own right now??
post #6321 of 6690
I own the Mirage Omni Micros. Great little speakers, but really cannot fill my new living room. They did well in my bedroom though.
post #6322 of 6690
What do you want to do with the R's??
post #6323 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Bluvette View Post

What do you want to do with the R's??
I am replacing my current setup. I want the OMD-15s as my front L/R, center will be OMD-C1, and the rears as OMD-Rs.
post #6324 of 6690
Well you better move quick on the 15's and the C1, as for the R's I do not think you will see them again except maybe Ebay. There is one on Ebay now, but you may want to consinder the OMD-5 for your surrounds. There is a set of 4 on Ebay for $900, that might be the best you are going to do. Your front stage is the most important to match, you can go with some thing else for your surrounds and your subwoofers.
post #6325 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Bluvette View Post

Well you better move quick on the 15's and the C1, as for the R's I do not think you will see them again except maybe Ebay. There is one on Ebay now, but you may want to consinder the OMD-5 for your surrounds. There is a set of 4 on Ebay for $900, that might be the best you are going to do. Your front stage is the most important to match, you can go with some thing else for your surrounds and your subwoofers.
By any chance , have you auditioned both OMD-R & OMD-5? I am considering just passing on the Rs id the 5s can fit the bill.
post #6326 of 6690
I'm interested in the Mirage Vanns deal. I have a 24x10 room with 7 ceilings, will the OMD-28 be overkill for such a room? I do have a rotel rb-1080 200 watt amp, so power shouldn't be a problem. The 28 looks like one heck of a speaker!
post #6327 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Agent 504 View Post

By any chance , have you auditioned both OMD-R & OMD-5? I am considering just passing on the Rs id the 5s can fit the bill.

I own both the 5's and the R's. The 5's are a very capable speaker, I use them in my family room setup. I use the R's in my Home theater setup. How big is the room you plan on putting these speakers in?? Here are some pictures of my setups..

http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Bluvette&folderid=5375
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Bluvette
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Originally Posted by ThumbtackJack View Post

I'm interested in the Mirage Vanns deal. I have a 24x10 room with 7 ceilings, will the OMD-28 be overkill for such a room? I do have a rotel rb-1080 200 watt amp, so power shouldn't be a problem. The 28 looks like one heck of a speaker!

Your room is pretty long but not very wide. I actually have my rooms reversed, my family room is 15x27 with 8foot ceiling and I have the 15's,C1, and 5's in there and they do a great job. My Home Theater is 11x20 with 7.5 ceilings and I have my 28's , C2, and R's in there. The 28's can easily over power my room. I should really have the larger speakers in the larger room, but this is the way I set it up and it works. So I guess it is your choice, What are you going to do with your 28's?? Are you setting up a 2 channel room or Home Theater??
post #6328 of 6690
Just based on the specs, the 5's look like a better match to the 15's and C1 while the R's appear to be matched to the 28's and C2. I went with the 15's, C1 & 5's, quite happy in a 24 x 20 room with an 18" JBL sub. I've got it powered with a Onkyo 808 w/ 135 W/ch.

I've never heard the 28's, C2 or R's so I can't give a comparison. I'm sure they would look and sound great but you do need more power as they are 3dB less efficient. I could not justify/swing the cost when I bought mine as I was also getting the receiver and 70" TV.
post #6329 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Bluvette View Post

I own both the 5's and the R's. The 5's are a very capable speaker, I use them in my family room setup. I use the R's in my Home theater setup. How big is the room you plan on putting these speakers in?? Here are some pictures of my setups..
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Bluvette&folderid=5375
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Bluvette
Wow!!! You have a beautiful setup...love the screen shots of Rush btw. My living/ theater room is 18'w x20'l x 16'h. My tv is a 82" Mitsubishi DLP and everything will be powered by a Yamaha RX-V773. As much as I would love to have a dedicated theater room and component setup, I cant convince the wife to convert our master bedroom...lol.
post #6330 of 6690
Nice setup dr_gallup, if you go to the Bluray forum many guy's like to match up the 15's with the C2 and the R's. But you are right the 15, C1, and 5 go together. I find the 5's a very capable speaker.
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