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post #6451 of 6689
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Originally Posted by lightbox View Post

Reading the replies to my comment, I guess my sarcasm light wasn't flashing brightly enough...

HAHA! We take our speakers seriously tongue.gif
post #6452 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Spiros_GR View Post

Guys, I think I am done....
here is my "family photo"...



speakers.

Mirage Uni-theater
Mirage Nanosat
Mirage Incognita i6C
Mirage Omnisat
Mirage Oasis MKII
Mirage MX

subwoofers

Klipsch KW-120-THX
Klipsch KA-1000-THX
Atlantic Technology 642eSB
Yamaha YST-SW030

Impressive collection! Why done?
post #6453 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Noman74656 View Post

Impressive collection! Why done?
they are enough for making four systems in my apartment,( living room,pc,bedroom,balcony) and one for the road,and no space for any floor standings like the omd-28's.....
maybe a couple additions (2-3 nanosat's & MX's) as reserves....
post #6454 of 6689
That's what I call "surround sound"
post #6455 of 6689
Just ordered the last C2 in stock at Vanns for $599!!!! They said they will not be getting more. And they just placed an order for their last batch of 15's and 28's....
post #6456 of 6689
Vanns has the C-2 listed at $1999. Are they selling Mirage cheaper than advertised or are you getting reconditioned, open box or are they going on sale when they get their new order?
post #6457 of 6689
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Originally Posted by westworld View Post

Vanns has the C-2 listed at $1999. Are they selling Mirage cheaper than advertised or are you getting reconditioned, open box or are they going on sale when they get their new order?

Vann's won't be getting any more. Crutchfield now sells the OMD line (at significantly higher prices than Vanns). I'm not sure if we know yet whether they're selling off the final remaining inventory, or if Mirage will still be producing the speakers. It seems to me that Audiovox is killing off both the Mirage and Energy brands, which is unfortunate.
post #6458 of 6689
No it's brand new. Someone here posted on 1/18 that they called Vanns and talked them into the price of $599 that they had on their web-site for months.
So I did the same thing. I was told there wont be anymore C2's because there are no more to order, they're gone! But they said they will have more 15's and 28's soon, when they run out of the new stock, they will be gone forever.
post #6459 of 6689
Is it true that OS3 speakers are discontinued? I'm considering return them as I may not get same speaker if they sent for service. Please advice.

Thanks
post #6460 of 6689
which ones aren't?
this is the end...
post #6461 of 6689
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Originally Posted by taticoh View Post

Purchase the mirage os3 sat, 4 of them os3 cc and mirage mm8 prestige. I am so happy by the hi end sound of these speakers. The polish black is amazing.i was going to get the two floor standing ones for front, since my room is only 12 by 14 feet, i decided to go with the sat. The two floor standing are for larger rooms. If your room is less than 2000 square feet. You dont need the two floor standing one, you dont need a 7.1 system either. One more thing, the omd5 are a little better if you using the speaker for stereo sound without powered sub. Omd 5 can go down to 60 htz. Os3 sat. Only 70 htz. If you using powered subs, you wont need omd5. Save the extra cost. Cross over them at 80 htz. Anything lower goes to sub. I am powering these with onkyo tx sr606. 90 watt per channel. I use my system 50% for music 40% home theater, blueray,direct tv, netflix streaming,xbmc pc. And 10% gaming.

Thanks for your input. I see lots of conflicting info here, though, and I would love for someone to provide some clarity.

I currently run OS3 fronts with the OS3-CC in my family room. I'm not looking for audiophile quality - I have that already in my basement listening room. Primarily the Mirages will be used for Movies, with maybe 20% music. I run my OS3s with two nanosat subs, ominsats for surrounds, and nanosats for the rears. I'm thinking of upgrading the OS3s and OS3-CC to OMD-5 fronts with OMD C-1 center channel.

My main question is this: will the extra $$ be worth it to upgrade from the OS3 system to OMD-5/OMD-C1? Put another way - how much better would the OMDs sound over the CCs?

I'm hoping that folks who have owned both OS3/CC and OMD 5/CM1 will opine. I have read the specs and understand the 8ohm vs 6ohm difference. Specs can only tell a small part of the story. What is the difference sonically?

More info: I'm not expecting high fidelity here. My expectations are actually modest:
- reasonably good voice legibility for movies (I mostly get that from the OS3-CC, though I have to sometimes turn on the Dolby correction, which annoys me)
- enough musical prowess from the fronts+sub to make listening to music...pleasurable. Currently, with the OS3s and nanosubs crossed at 100 the sound is pretty good (mostly lacking in the mids, though integration with the subs is surprisingly good). Overall I would describe the sound as dry and a bit thin at moderate volumes, harsh at higher volumes (that's my AVR, though)

The AVR I'm using is underpowered - a Harmann Kardon 2600 with 65wpc. I am upgrading that to a Marantz 7002 so that will hopefully give me a better sound at higher volumes.

If you've read this far I really appreciate it!

With the 110watt/ch Marantz, will the OMD-5 and OMD-C1 sound a lot better (or just a little better) than the OS3 system? It's a big room.

Thank you in advance. Also, there are no other options for the above - no OMD-15/28 or C2. It's only one of the two systems I mention.

Nick N
post #6462 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Dr. X View Post

Thanks for your input. I see lots of conflicting info here, though, and I would love for someone to provide some clarity.

I currently run OS3 fronts with the OS3-CC in my family room. I'm not looking for audiophile quality - I have that already in my basement listening room. Primarily the Mirages will be used for Movies, with maybe 20% music. I run my OS3s with two nanosat subs, ominsats for surrounds, and nanosats for the rears. I'm thinking of upgrading the OS3s and OS3-CC to OMD-5 fronts with OMD C-1 center channel.

My main question is this: will the extra $$ be worth it to upgrade from the OS3 system to OMD-5/OMD-C1? Put another way - how much better would the OMDs sound over the CCs?

I'm hoping that folks who have owned both OS3/CC and OMD 5/CM1 will opine. I have read the specs and understand the 8ohm vs 6ohm difference. Specs can only tell a small part of the story. What is the difference sonically?

More info: I'm not expecting high fidelity here. My expectations are actually modest:
- reasonably good voice legibility for movies (I mostly get that from the OS3-CC, though I have to sometimes turn on the Dolby correction, which annoys me)
- enough musical prowess from the fronts+sub to make listening to music...pleasurable. Currently, with the OS3s and nanosubs crossed at 100 the sound is pretty good (mostly lacking in the mids, though integration with the subs is surprisingly good). Overall I would describe the sound as dry and a bit thin at moderate volumes, harsh at higher volumes (that's my AVR, though)

The AVR I'm using is underpowered - a Harmann Kardon 2600 with 65wpc. I am upgrading that to a Marantz 7002 so that will hopefully give me a better sound at higher volumes.

If you've read this far I really appreciate it!

With the 110watt/ch Marantz, will the OMD-5 and OMD-C1 sound a lot better (or just a little better) than the OS3 system? It's a big room.

Thank you in advance. Also, there are no other options for the above - no OMD-15/28 or C2. It's only one of the two systems I mention.

Nick N
I have owned both. If you can get the 5s and c1 for less than $1k combined then do it. You won't be disappointed.
post #6463 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Dr. X View Post

With the 110watt/ch Marantz, will the OMD-5 and OMD-C1 sound a lot better (or just a little better) than the OS3 system? It's a big room.
Based on your comments on your current system, I think they would sound enough better to you to make it worth doing, if you can find them at a reasonable price. That is, you would be able to appreciate the difference.

It is the speakers, not the receiver, that are the source of the issues you mention - and maybe the placement somewhat. The OMDs have a nicer tone.

It would also let you swap out the Nanosats, which are not well suited to larger rooms even for rears.
post #6464 of 6689
Many thanks LansdaleHokie and buzzy_, especially for answering my question directly. One more: I'm concerned about the few reviews I have found on the 'net which allege that the OMD-C1 sounds muddy with dialogue. If so, perhaps I can keep the OS3-cc, which is well-balanced for a center channel. Perhaps it will not be exactly timber-matched with the OMDs, but is it that far off? How have you found the OMD-C1?

Oh, and one more thing - you folks now have me looking at used OMD-15s biggrin.gif The wife will throw me out of the house soon, with all of the speakers I'm collecting.
post #6465 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Dr. X View Post

Many thanks LansdaleHokie and buzzy_, especially for answering my question directly. One more: I'm concerned about the few reviews I have found on the 'net which allege that the OMD-C1 sounds muddy with dialogue. If so, perhaps I can keep the OS3-cc, which is well-balanced for a center channel. Perhaps it will not be exactly timber-matched with the OMDs, but is it that far off? How have you found the OMD-C1?

Oh, and one more thing - you folks now have me looking at used OMD-15s biggrin.gif The wife will throw me out of the house soon, with all of the speakers I'm collecting.

The C1 is a better speaker.
post #6466 of 6689
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

The C1 is a better speaker.
+1
post #6467 of 6689
I think dialog on the C1 is excellent. It needs to be placed properly (like many if not all speakers). If it is mounted high (above TV) it needs to be inverted.
post #6468 of 6689
I pulled the trigger on a C1.

Tough time finding Mirage speakers nowadays - paid 5 bills for a new one at Crutchfield (ouch - I see some of your threads that a year ago this cost half the price. Oh well.)

A question re: placement. My center channel position is under my TV but above my listening position. The plasma is mounted above the fireplace and the cc sits on the mantle. As usual, the mantle is about 4 feet off the ground, with my ears at about 3 feet (or less) sitting in a chair. I now have my OS3-CC tilted forward a bit so that the horizontal plane of the tweeter pod is pointing directly at the sitting position (using a laser pointer). I can tilt it forward a bit more, but I'm trying to replicate the appropriate position of the tweeter which, I think, is approximately horizontal and therefore at a 90 degree angle to the sitting position.

Any thoughts?
post #6469 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Dr. X View Post

I pulled the trigger on a C1.

Tough time finding Mirage speakers nowadays - paid 5 bills for a new one at Crutchfield (ouch - I see some of your threads that a year ago this cost half the price. Oh well.)

A question re: placement. My center channel position is under my TV but above my listening position. The plasma is mounted above the fireplace and the cc sits on the mantle. As usual, the mantle is about 4 feet off the ground, with my ears at about 3 feet (or less) sitting in a chair. I now have my OS3-CC tilted forward a bit so that the horizontal plane of the tweeter pod is pointing directly at the sitting position (using a laser pointer). I can tilt it forward a bit more, but I'm trying to replicate the appropriate position of the tweeter which, I think, is approximately horizontal and therefore at a 90 degree angle to the sitting position.

Any thoughts?

The Mirage OMDs were on a long, slow, blow-out for 3-4 years. Vann's sold them at a price point that was less than the step-down OS3 series -- introduced around the same time, I believe.
post #6470 of 6689
I received my C2 from Vanns, and since they said it was their last one, and they won't be getting any more, I felt as though when I was opening it that it was the last new one on earth! Very happy to see it in mint condition. A first for me with a Mirage speaker! I now have three C2's across the front of my system, and even though my new one isn't broken in yet, the sound is fabulous!! I really want to integrate to more for 5.1, but there just isn't any room. And I'm sure there are some serious mounting hurdles for a 32lb speaker that is 25" wide!
post #6471 of 6689
Hello,

I'm hoping to get some advice/suggestions on a purchase I am considering and came across this thread. We are moving from a smaller home to a larger one where I will have enough space to invest in an upgraded sound system. Currently, we listen to most of our music from a pair of small bookshelf NHT speakers. For movies, we have an Onkyo home theatre in a box setup with the receiver being a tx-sr606. Anyway, I work with a colleague who is moving and wants to sell his Mirage speakers: a pair of M5si's, M7si's and an MCsi center channel. I've listened to his setup and thought it sounded great, but I am a novice in terms of audio equipment. I understand that these speakers are from the early nineties and quite old, but are of good quality. My questions are: Would this be a good purchase for listening to 70%music and 30% movies? Would my receiver (onkyo tx-606) be able to handle these? Are there other factors I should consider? Finally, what would be a fair price for these speakers being in good condition but older? I really appreciate any advice/suggestions on this, so thanks in advance for any replies:)
post #6472 of 6689
Is the company dead? Was looking to possibly buy a new setup.
post #6473 of 6689
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Originally Posted by msbc77 View Post

Hello,

I'm hoping to get some advice/suggestions on a purchase I am considering and came across this thread. We are moving from a smaller home to a larger one where I will have enough space to invest in an upgraded sound system. Currently, we listen to most of our music from a pair of small bookshelf NHT speakers. For movies, we have an Onkyo home theatre in a box setup with the receiver being a tx-sr606. Anyway, I work with a colleague who is moving and wants to sell his Mirage speakers: a pair of M5si's, M7si's and an MCsi center channel. I've listened to his setup and thought it sounded great, but I am a novice in terms of audio equipment. I understand that these speakers are from the early nineties and quite old, but are of good quality. My questions are: Would this be a good purchase for listening to 70%music and 30% movies? Would my receiver (onkyo tx-606) be able to handle these? Are there other factors I should consider? Finally, what would be a fair price for these speakers being in good condition but older? I really appreciate any advice/suggestions on this, so thanks in advance for any replies:)

I've not owned the M5si series, but my understanding is that they need space around them to sound their best (especially quite a bit of space behind them). So look at your room and see hw far forward you can move them. As to the receiver, that should be simple bring your receiver to you friend's house and plug the speakers into it. I will not bias you as to the probable results as people hear different things, and you may love the results. I have owned an older pair of mirage floorstanding speakers and loved them.

Best.
post #6474 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Dr. X View Post

I am upgrading that to a Marantz 7002 so that will hopefully give me a better sound at higher volumes.

If you've read this far I really appreciate it!

With the 110watt/ch Marantz, will the OMD-5 and OMD-C1 sound a lot better (or just a little better) than the OS3 system? It's a big room.

Thank you in advance. Also, there are no other options for the above - no OMD-15/28 or C2. It's only one of the two systems I mention.

Nick N
Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that I also think the sr7002 is a great receiver. Just make sure your unit has the latest firmware.

Also, you should make note of the fact that the sr7002 cannot decode HD bitstreams (TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Auido) and apply Audyssey to the decoded signal. It can do one or the other, but not both. To get around this issue, just have the signal decoded by your source component so the sr7002 receives a multichannel pcm signal which can be equalized with Audyssey.

I used to have the sr7002 in my main HT system. It has been moved to my 2-channel music system.
post #6475 of 6689
Dear Mirage experts,

I would greatly appreciate some advice and guidance from you guys.

My current set up includes a Denon 3313 reciever with a 7.1 Setup = 2 OMD 15's, 1 OMD C1, 4 OMD 5's and 1 S8 subwoofer.

Is the Denon good enough to power all these.

Do you suggest me to get an amp for the best sound. My usage is for 100% movies.

Thanks
post #6476 of 6689
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Originally Posted by mirage1000 View Post

Dear Mirage experts,

I would greatly appreciate some advice and guidance from you guys.

My current set up includes a Denon 3313 reciever with a 7.1 Setup = 2 OMD 15's, 1 OMD C1, 4 OMD 5's and 1 S8 subwoofer.

Is the Denon good enough to power all these.

Do you suggest me to get an amp for the best sound. My usage is for 100% movies.

Thanks

I'm not a Mirage owner, but I DO recommend adding a power amplifier or two (depends on the channel configuration of the amp) for the best results (in the 200-300 watt/channel range). Try Emotiva and Outlaw Audio to start. Maybe even the Parasound Classic lineup. I've heard a Mirage and Parasound combo that was quite impressive.
post #6477 of 6689
You might consider upgrading your sub first. I think it would be a much more worthwhile purchase. A powerful subwoofer and and a 80 Hz crossover will take the brunt of the workload off of your AVR and replace the weakest link in your equipment. Of course, this advice is dependent on your space and listening levels.
post #6478 of 6689
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

You might consider upgrading your sub first. I think it would be a much more worthwhile purchase. A powerful subwoofer and and a 80 Hz crossover will take the brunt of the workload off of your AVR and replace the weakest link in your equipment. Of course, this advice is dependent on your space and listening levels.

He has a sub already. Though, if it's a large room, a second sub might be worthwhile. A power amp can last a long time and be useful through many a system upgrade and is a better investment, if it's of some quality.
post #6479 of 6689
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

Is the company dead? Was looking to possibly buy a new setup.
The parent company has nearly killed it off. Read back through this thread for the details.
post #6480 of 6689
Guys,

It's unfortunate, but I'll be selling my set up to afford a new house. I've enjoyed every minute with this set up, but never really got to put it to full use.

I have the following in piano black mint condition: C1 center, two OMD-15's & two OMD-5's which I used as rears.

I have a two year old so never really had the chance to watch anything at reference level. If you have interest, please PM me. I'm in Chandler, AZ.
Edited by ShapS - 3/27/13 at 2:14pm
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