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post #6481 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

He has a sub already. Though, if it's a large room, a second sub might be worthwhile. A power amp can last a long time and be useful through many a system upgrade and is a better investment, if it's of some quality.

Hey Dan: I understand that the OP has an 8", 100 W - 200 W subwoofer that has a frequency response of ~ 27 Hz +/-3dB. This depends on which model it is. My take is that by upgrading the subwoofer, mirage1000 can reproduce frequencies that he/she is not currently able to replicate. This would also take the burden of the power-hungry lower octaves off the AVR and shift the 80Hz and below frequencies -- which require the most power -- to a dedicated driver and its accompanying AMPLIFIER.

Adding an a 200-300 W/channel external amp and cables, like the Emotiva or Outlaw you recommend, will probably only yield 2-3 W increase over the 125 W/channel AVR currently used. An amp may not even be needed for a room with unknown dimensions to achieve reference levels and its addition will still not reproduce the lower octaves of the OP's 100% home theater requirement. Not to mention, a 200 W amplifier alone will cost around $900+. In my opinion, this would be better spent on a good subwoofer and could provide a greater frequency response as well as the benefit of a dedicated power amplifier for a lower distortion 15" driver.



For instance:

XV15 Subwoofer

Power Sound Audio

$799.00 USD

Amplifier Power: 500W RMS (continuous), 1000W Peak (dynamic)



This is about 2x the power of the amps suggested, or 4x the power of the Op's AVR.



Here's a simple SPL calculator that can help determine if an amplifier is needed or required.

http://www.hometheatrebasics.com/home-theatre-tools/spl-calculator/
post #6482 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

I'm not a Mirage owner, but I DO recommend adding a power amplifier or two (depends on the channel configuration of the amp) for the best results (in the 200-300 watt/channel range). Try Emotiva and Outlaw Audio to start. Maybe even the Parasound Classic lineup. I've heard a Mirage and Parasound combo that was quite impressive.

I highly recommend the Parasound New Classic gear. Most of my mirage speakers are powered by parasound: 2 x OMD-28's powered by NC-2250 (Office); 2 x OMD-15's, 2 x OMD-5's, 1 x OMD-C1 powered by NC-5125 (Living Room); 2 x OM-6, 2 x OM-10, 1 x OM-C1 powered by NC-5125 w/ 2 x OM-R powered by NC-275 (Family Room). I have two rooms with 2 x OMD-5's powered by Sonos ZP-100 (Bedroom and Sunroom).

The NC-2250 and OMD-28's play very well together...
post #6483 of 6690
If anyone's looking to get 2 OMD-R Speakers let me know.
post #6484 of 6690
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Originally Posted by ccspruce View Post

I want start this thread to focus on discussing Mirage speakers. It appears that Mirage has started to go small in recent years, promoting OmniSat or some new variation of it. I would like to hear from people familiar with the Mirage brand of speakers on their opinions on comparing Mirage floorstanding OM series of speakers for sale with these OmniSat speakers. Reading Mirage website, they seem to suggest that OmniSat performs almost to the level of OM speakers. It is hard to believe that the alumnium cased little speakers could perform to the level of wood cabinet of the OM speakers. The OM series speakers referred here are OM-6, OM-5, and OM-9.


Hopefully, we can have a lively discussion here
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Mirage has lose the top spot of speakers in quality. I will not prefer them now.
Edited by Royfoster - 4/1/13 at 10:20pm
post #6485 of 6690
I have a long narrow room, OMD-28 is pretty overkill for 27x12x8 right?
post #6486 of 6690
I currently have a 3.1 system with the OMD5 as the front left and right and the OMD C1 as the center. I was thinking about replacing the center speaker with one that has a more directional sound instead of omnipolar. Has anyone tried this and how did it sound ?
post #6487 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Banner23 View Post

I currently have a 3.1 system with the OMD5 as the front left and right and the OMD C1 as the center. I was thinking about replacing the center speaker with one that has a more directional sound instead of omnipolar. Has anyone tried this and how did it sound ?

I didn't try to mix and match a directional center with my OMD speakers, but I did replace my whole OMD setup primarily due to the performance of the C1. I can tell you it made a huge difference. All of my complaints about dialogue in movies went away.

I moved my OMD setup to my living room (secondary HT), and the C1 performance still bothers me. I love the OMD 15s for 2-channel music (always have), but that C1 just sticks in my craw. smile.gif

I say give it a shot. Try a different center, and let us know the results. I may consider doing the same.
post #6488 of 6690
I am looking at the following center speakers. Paradigm SE center, Definitive Technology Pro Center 2000 and Studio Monitor 65. All of theses speakers has the same size woofer as the OMD 5. I am glad you mentioned about having difficulty hearing dialogue, I sometimes have a problem hearing to and I thought it was just maybe my hearing. So I am looking forward to getting a better center and hearing the dialogue much better.
The above speakers are all in the $500 price range. Does anyone have other suggestions for a center speaker in that price area ?
post #6489 of 6690
I tried and did not care for the C1, see if you can find a used OM-C2 or MC-Si, they are still in the family and sound much better IMHO. I'm using a MC-Si with OM9s and I'm very pleased.
post #6490 of 6690
Has anyone mounted the omd-c1 without using the Mirage bracket? I ask because I lost my bracket and bolt and am unsure how to wall mount the speaker without them. Any suggestions? I'm trying to mount the center channel above a newly installed projector screen so a shelf will not work. Thanks in advance for any help!
post #6491 of 6690
Hi everyone.

I recently bought a lovely pair of Mirage Omni 250 speakers of eBay to match my centre channel. Unfortunately, the seller had lost the grills. Not a big problem really but I would like to try to find a replacement pair nonetheless.

Does anyone out there have a pair they would be prepared to sell me or does anyone know where I might be able to source a pair. I am in the UK but am prepared to purchase from further afield if necessary.

Many thanks.

Neil
post #6492 of 6690
Does anyone know where I can purchase the speaker cloth for my OM-6 speakers? Thanks!
Edited by BamaDave - 4/28/13 at 9:07am
post #6493 of 6690
For those of you that don't like the C-1, try expermenting with the location in respect to the back wall.
I've located the C-1 directly below the TV. Instead of away from the wall, I moved the the C-1 back in line with the TV so the sound reflects up and against the front of TV screen rather than than away from the wall per manufacturers instructions. This increased the dialog sounds which I also thought was weak when the C-1 was away from the wall. The 15's are located away from the wall per specs. This setup works good for HT and music.
post #6494 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Stretch002 View Post

Has anyone mounted the omd-c1 without using the Mirage bracket? I ask because I lost my bracket and bolt and am unsure how to wall mount the speaker without them. Any suggestions? I'm trying to mount the center channel above a newly installed projector screen so a shelf will not work. Thanks in advance for any help!
I think it uses a standard size thread, so it's just a matter of finding a mount with that size thread and the right weight capacity.

Something like this, or another Omnimount, but check the thread size:
http://www.omnimount.com/products/speaker_mounts/stainless_steel_series/20.0_c/

If no one here knows it, and you can't find it in the thread - try emailing Mirage.
post #6495 of 6690
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Originally Posted by BamaDave View Post

Does anyone know where I can purchase the speaker cloth for my OM-6 speakers? Thanks!

I think you are SOL, last time I contacted Mirage they didn't have any for OM10s or grills for OM9s. Anyone in you family sew? They could use the originals as a pattern. I wish I had better news.....
post #6496 of 6690
Thanks and yes I just need to locate the material.
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Originally Posted by sdolen View Post

I think you are SOL, last time I contacted Mirage they didn't have any for OM10s or grills for OM9s. Anyone in you family sew? They could use the originals as a pattern. I wish I had better news.....
post #6497 of 6690
If anyone is interested in a Mirage Prestige S8, I have one to sell. PM me if you're interested.
post #6498 of 6690
hi mirage owners!..i bought a set of omd28s..couldnt pass it up. but the only issue is, the tweeters are blown. is it easy to replace? do you think i can still get it under warranty? any help would be greatly appreciated!!! if this works out..i might sell my omd15s out! thanks again..
post #6499 of 6690
My OMD-Rs are ending today on Ebay if anyone is looking for a pair
post #6500 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Stiltz View Post

My OMD-Rs are ending today on Ebay if anyone is looking for a pair

I was so close!!!! Awesome deal for whom ever won them.
post #6501 of 6690
Absolutly you can replace your tweeter as long they still under warranty but i am curious about one thing, when you bought your OMD 28 the tweeter was already blown up or you did it ???

The reason i am asking you that is if your amp that you use is not capable to run adequatly your OMD 28 you will continue to blow up your tweeters.

The OMD 28 need a lot of power so if your amp has not the capacity to drive your speakers, you are sending nothing but distortion signal and the first thing that will broke is the tweeters.

The OMD 28 impedance can do down to 3 Ohms so becarefull.
post #6502 of 6690
Thanks for the reply!!!.. the tweeters were already broken when i got it. and yes, it is still under warranty. the guy who sold it to me didnt want to bother with fixing the tweeters, so he bought a new set and sold this set for dirt cheap..i got a set of omd28 for 1100 and free tweeter replacement. deal of a life time for me. hehe. i think i might keep these forever.

i fixed it last week and its working perfectly now. compare to my omd15 ..it is night and day. appreciate the help!
post #6503 of 6690
OK that is fantastic, the price you paid for the OMD 28 is really low, good for you.
How did you fixe the problem ? did you call mirage to have the tweeters ??
post #6504 of 6690
yea i called mirage and gave them the invoice the seller gave me. they agree to send me a pair of tweeters and i replaced them. it was a 5min job.
post #6505 of 6690
Alright that is wonderful. Now please can you share with us your first impressions about the sound of your new OMD 28 comparing to
the OMD 15.
post #6506 of 6690
I recently acquired 4x OS3-FS and an OS3-CC. I'd like to sell two OS3-FS and replace with something I can wall mount for the surrounds. I love the floor-standing, they just won't work in my room at all. Should I only go with OS3-SAT (which I can't find anywhere, used or otherwise)? I like my speakers to match...

Assuming I can't find any - what would be a good substitute?
post #6507 of 6690
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Originally Posted by El Gabito View Post

I recently acquired 4x OS3-FS and an OS3-CC. I'd like to sell two OS3-FS and replace with something I can wall mount for the surrounds. I love the floor-standing, they just won't work in my room at all. Should I only go with OS3-SAT (which I can't find anywhere, used or otherwise)? I like my speakers to match...

Assuming I can't find any - what would be a good substitute?
The Omnisat V2 (previous version) is a near perfect substitute, but might not be any easier to find.

OMD-5 would work if you can find it.

If those can 't be found - you can use almost anything for surrounds. Consider living without them, or using something temporary, until some turn up.
Edited by buzzy_ - 6/10/13 at 5:56pm
post #6508 of 6690
In response to the post above, Crutchfield still has the OMD C1. Not a bad price either.

On a similar note, I have a placement question for all the OMD C1 owners out there (all 3 of us lol).

Does anyone have their C1 Placed like this?



I have mine facing me on the stand facing me the way the other mirage speaker face me.
post #6509 of 6690
Has anyone ever mounted an os3-fs (or similar) up high on a shelf or upside down?

Just tossing ideas around since I already have these.
post #6510 of 6690
I'm lookint at a used OM-C2, but really not sure of the value. Is 200 too much for one in good condition? Seems a little high to me.
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