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post #6511 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Noman74656 View Post

In response to the post above, Crutchfield still has the OMD C1. Not a bad price either.

On a similar note, I have a placement question for all the OMD C1 owners out there (all 3 of us lol).

Does anyone have their C1 Placed like this?



I have mine facing me on the stand facing me the way the other mirage speaker face me.

I would guess that the angle of the tweeter and its dispersion disk would be less than ideal in that orientation. Not to mention the speaker terminals and mounting screw, which would be on the bottom of the speaker.
post #6512 of 6690
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Originally Posted by morbidcorpse View Post

I'm lookint at a used OM-C2, but really not sure of the value. Is 200 too much for one in good condition? Seems a little high to me.

That's about the going rate, you can might snag one for 100-150 on CL if you are lucky. Just make sure the tweeter domes haven't been pushed in. I am using a MC-Si with my OM9s and don't feel any need to upgrade and it seems to be a close enough timbre match with multi-channel SACD that I get a seamless front stage. So that might be another option for you.
post #6513 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Noman74656 View Post

In response to the post above, Crutchfield still has the OMD C1. Not a bad price either.

On a similar note, I have a placement question for all the OMD C1 owners out there (all 3 of us lol).

Does anyone have their C1 Placed like this?

I have mine facing me on the stand facing me the way the other mirage speaker face me.



If there's such a thing as speaker humor, that would be it. Whoever took that photo didn't understand how the speaker works.
post #6514 of 6690
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Originally Posted by El Gabito View Post

Has anyone ever mounted an os3-fs (or similar) up high on a shelf or upside down?

Just tossing ideas around since I already have these.
No, don't do that. It would fire at the floor. Unless you have 12 foot ceilings and can mount them at an angle, upside down ...

But the OMD-5 or OMD-R would work if you're up for that:
http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/mirage_omd.html

There's some Omnisat V2s on eBay, if you're OK with white or silver. Or wait for the right thing to come along.
Edited by buzzy_ - 6/10/13 at 6:16pm
post #6515 of 6690
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Originally Posted by buzzy_ View Post

No, don't do that. It would fire at the floor. Unless you have 12 foot ceilings and can mount them at an angle, upside down ...

But the OMD-5 or OMD-R would work if you're up for that:
http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/mirage_omd.html

There's some Omnisat V2s on eBay, if you're OK with white or silver. Or wait for the right thing to come along.


For the record, here was Mirage's reply to my question. It seems to contradict your statement about mounting upside-down.
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Any of the Mirage speakers of this type, meaning ones that use the same top section, the FS is basicly an extension of the OS3 book shelf speaker, should be mounted upside down when placed over 6 feet from the floor
Sorry for that long sentence
I would NOT suggest the base of the FS could handle the weight of this speaker
If the top of the speaker is say 5 feet off of the floor then they should be fine placed that high
I am not sure who may still have stock on the OS3 sats, Mirage is basicly out of production at this point
You might find them on Amazon, but hard to say for sure.
I am not aware of any of our direct dealers that may have them

So they seem to say anything 6ft or over should be mounted upside-down.
post #6516 of 6690
Anyone have a Uni-theater they are looking to unload for a reasonable price? PM me if so.
post #6517 of 6690
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Originally Posted by 3In2Out View Post

Anyone have a Uni-theater they are looking to unload for a reasonable price? PM me if so.
I believe there are currently one or two of these available on ebay. I know I saw one for sure....in black. Take a look.


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Originally Posted by sdolen View Post

That's about the going rate, you can might snag one for 100-150 on CL if you are lucky. Just make sure the tweeter domes haven't been pushed in. I am using a MC-Si with my OM9s and don't feel any need to upgrade and it seems to be a close enough timbre match with multi-channel SACD that I get a seamless front stage. So that might be another option for you.
I just now saw this and thanks for the tip. It just so happens that not having seen your reply, I ended up finding a mint condition MC-Si. I've had it now for a week and I'm VERY pleased. I overpaid for it, but sometimes you have to in order to get exactly what you want. I appreciate the help though.
post #6518 of 6690
If anyone is interested, Ebay has a C2 up for biding. I unfortunately will not be cable to make a run at it since I just purchased a Peachtree Nova frown.gif
post #6519 of 6690
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Originally Posted by Noman74656 View Post

If anyone is interested, Ebay has a C2 up for biding. I unfortunately will not be cable to make a run at it since I just purchased a Peachtree Nova frown.gif
Damn, thanks for the heads up. I had been looking for one of these for about 3 months and gave up when I purchased an MC-Si a few weeks ago. However, this guy is within driving distance. I'm half tempted to ask if he would take a few less dollars for cash up front, no ebay fees, no paypal fees he would have to pay.
post #6520 of 6690
i bought a used set of omd28 but unfortunately, it did not come with any speaker spikes. I tried getting it from mirage, but they no longer have them. I was wondering if anyone know the tread sizing or better yet, a set of spikes that they recommend. thanks!
post #6521 of 6690
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Originally Posted by hung8582 View Post

i bought a used set of omd28 but unfortunately, it did not come with any speaker spikes. I tried getting it from mirage, but they no longer have them. I was wondering if anyone know the tread sizing or better yet, a set of spikes that they recommend. thanks!

I bought a set of Soundcare SuperSpikes for my older Mirages (OM9), they are a little on the pricey side but I have hardwood floors so it was worth it for me.

http://www.taylorsales.com/SuperSpikes.htm

I purchased two sets of the Spike 3 EX and have been very happy with them, I did feel they offered a little tighter bass response and they make moving the speakers much easier.
post #6522 of 6690
I recently purchased 5 nanosats that I'm in luv with, but I have a few questions since I've never owned speakers this small before

1st - I'm matching these with a sub, and currently crossing them over @ 120hz - Is that what everyone else has them at ?...I think the specs on them is that they go down to only 110hz ?....Where are you crossing them over at ?

2nd - Manual says that anything above 6ft to turn them upside down - But my fronts are a bit higher than that, maybe 6.5 feet ?....does it make a big difference ?

3rd - On my amp, I have the BASS setting to output to BOTH (speaker and sub), I think they sound better that way, but I also set them to small. Do you think I would damage those little drivers ?
post #6523 of 6690
I have the NanoSats as well (prestige with the Omni S8)

1) I cross mine at 120hz and have gone up higher from there and have not noticed a huge difference. 120 is fine.

2) It does make a difference i would move one upside down then run test tones between the 2 fronts and listen for the difference. basically if you arent ear level or below ear level with the tweeter flip it upside down.

3) how loud do you go? the nanosats really don't reproduce good sounding bass as the volume increases, so damage isnt likely until the higher range like -15+ volume level are you on a Yamaha receiver?. and what wattage?
post #6524 of 6690
Thanks for the reply...I'm currently switching the crossover points between 120 and 160hz...(My Yamaha AVR jumps from 120 to 160hz, not sure why it was designed that way), for some vocals I prefer one setting and for other vocals I prefer the other, still going back and fourth with it.

Right now the speakers are setup higher than my listening level (exactly about 6ft high)
post #6525 of 6690
Yeah, I would flip Them and see what you think, or lower them on the wall if you like the upright look. I have a Yamaha Rx-v 663 which is similar to yours as crossovers points go.

let me know what you think after you flip one and leave the other upright, using the manual setup options on the yamaha allows you to isolate test tones between the front three speakers youll be amazed at how even the same two speakers sound different based on your environment. ie other walls furniture etc.
post #6526 of 6690
I recently purchased an mm-6 new in box from eBay. When I received it, I got it plugged in and everything worked just fine. I then shut it down and relocated it. When I powered it back up it no longer produces any sound. The blue power light comes on. It dims as I turn the gain or phase knobs (I have another one of these and it does the same thing). I'm confident the hook up is correct.

Just curious if anyone has had a similar experience with the mm-6 and knows of a quick fix (if it's a common occurrence) as I don't really want to mess with shipping it back or shipping it to an authorized repair shop.

Thanks for the help.
Matt
post #6527 of 6690
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Originally Posted by designmule View Post

I recently purchased an mm-6 new in box from eBay. When I received it, I got it plugged in and everything worked just fine. I then shut it down and relocated it. When I powered it back up it no longer produces any sound. The blue power light comes on. It dims as I turn the gain or phase knobs (I have another one of these and it does the same thing). I'm confident the hook up is correct.

Just curious if anyone has had a similar experience with the mm-6 and knows of a quick fix (if it's a common occurrence) as I don't really want to mess with shipping it back or shipping it to an authorized repair shop.

Thanks for the help.
Matt

Are the subs plugged into a power conditioner or power strip? I have not had that issue with an MM-8 that I have.
post #6528 of 6690
I do have the subs plugged into a surge stopper. Both the working and non-working subs.
post #6529 of 6690
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Originally Posted by designmule View Post

I do have the subs plugged into a surge stopper. Both the working and non-working subs.

Try plugging the directly into a separate wall outlet to rule out the power conditioner as the problem. Then it would either be the sub, or your reciever that is causing the issue.
post #6530 of 6690
Question for Nanosat owners and Bass Mgmt - How do you get the most mid-range output out of them ?....I've tried different crossover settings on my yamaha (110,120,160hz). What raises the question is that at extreme loud levels the nanosats overwhelm everything sounding a bit thin. I was told by Yamaha and others to lower the crossover settings to either 110 or 120 and let the nanosats produce more of the midrange. My receiver also has a setting to send bass to BOTH the mains and the sub, and it gives it a bit of a fuller sound. I also need to mention that I have all channels set to 0db, so I have to raise the master volume pretty high for it to get very loud. This is just for music and they sound perfect at moderate to high listening levels, its when I push them VERY loud. For movies they're perfect and crystal clear.
post #6531 of 6690
This is all a limitation of tiny speakers - physics just don't allow them to produce the mid- and upper-bass effectively. Lots of people are OK with that, to get the small size, but once you notice it, it's hard to live with.

Old thread on Nanosat crossover:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1348059/with-the-mirage-nanosat-system-what-is-the-correct-crossover-frequency

The reason the automatic settings on people's receivers keep pushing it up is because Nanosats can't effectively get below 160hz or so. But all in all it may still sound better with a "hole" by setting it at 120hz, if the sub isn't effective above that

The Nanosub has a fixed crossover at 120hz, maybe because the sub isn't effective above that.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qzPJHXvUbBj/learn/reviews/20060606/mirage.html - see the setup section at the beginning.

So try it at 120 or 160 and see what you like.

Most important: Try to use either the receiver or the sub's crossover, not both, or at least make sure they're set to the same level.
post #6532 of 6690
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Originally Posted by buzzy_ View Post

This is all a limitation of tiny speakers - physics just don't allow them to produce the mid- and upper-bass effectively. Lots of people are OK with that, to get the small size, but once you notice it, it's hard to live with.

Old thread on Nanosat crossover:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1348059/with-the-mirage-nanosat-system-what-is-the-correct-crossover-frequency

The reason the automatic settings on people's receivers keep pushing it up is because Nanosats can't effectively get below 160hz or so. But all in all it may still sound better with a "hole" by setting it at 120hz, if the sub isn't effective above that

The Nanosub has a fixed crossover at 120hz, maybe because the sub isn't effective above that.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qzPJHXvUbBj/learn/reviews/20060606/mirage.html - see the setup section at the beginning.

So try it at 120 or 160 and see what you like.

Most important: Try to use either the receiver or the sub's crossover, not both, or at least make sure they're set to the same level.


Update - what I've done is that I have crossed them over @110hz , all speakers set to small and bass directed just to the sub (BIC F12). That way I have the nanosats playing some of the midrange, and having them sound heavier at loud volumes. When I was crossing it over at 160, the higher I increased the volume, the thinner they would sound....
post #6533 of 6690
I hope it's ok to post this here, but I recently picked up an OMD C2 from Spurrier Sucks and I'm very happy with it. This in turn means I'm looking to let go of my recently acquired pristine, I would go so far as to say MINT, MC-Si center channel speaker. It is in excellent condition, cosmetically and functionally with a tweeter replacement from Mirage (according to the original owner) in 2012. I am only the 2nd owner of this very fine speaker. The only reason I'm letting it go is because the C2 is just a better center, but absolutely NOTHING wrong with the mc-si in terms of performance. If anyone thinks they're interested, PM me and we will work out a deal.
post #6534 of 6690
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Originally Posted by LCD View Post


well, all i have to say is WTF. the blue led on yet ANOTHER prestige s10 i've owned has died. i can't believe i'm the only one having this problem. the sub is plugged into a decent tripp lite surge protector/line conditioner so i don't think the lamp is shorting out. the sub still works, but it sure is an annoying problem. i'm sure vann's will take it back again, but i'm getting tired of paying for shipping back to them which is not cheap. very disappointed in the build quality of mirage since they moved to china.

Looks like the little blue power LED on the front of my Prestige S8 decided to call it quits, too. The sub otherwise seems to still function the same. I guess I should just let it go, but now I kind of miss knowing whether it's engaged or not.

The only thing I was able to dredge up using Google was a suggestion of pulling the sub apart, soldering in a resistor to reduce the voltage, and replacing the LED with a 3v, 5mm blue or clear one.

Any other ideas other than live with it or pull it apart to make a major repair? Can't believe the LED is what often dies on these things first, but maybe so.
post #6535 of 6690
You'll know its engaged when you hear it. wink.gif

Blue light on my Energy s10.3 went out within the first week I bought it. It was annoying anyway. Subwoofer works great though and I've had it for 5 years now.
post #6536 of 6690
Well, that's the reason I can't tell you when it actually went out ... I hadn't noticed any change in SPL. biggrin.gif

I didn't consider the blue LED annoying on the Mirage S8 because it was behind the grille. You actually had to look for it.
post #6537 of 6690
Hey all. I have a question. I purchased a Mirage Nanosat 5 speaker set a couple years ago while living in a different house. I purchased a new home and am getting ready to build a dedicated theater in the unfinished basement. The room size is going to be 14' x 15' with an 8' ceiling and I wondering if I should look at getting different speakers for the new setup? I have an Epic Sentinel sub currently and love it. Everything is running through a Denon AVR-2312ci. Any input and advice would be greatly appreciated.
post #6538 of 6690
How large was previous room the Nanosats were in?

If you want to buy different speakers what's your budget?
post #6539 of 6690
Gentlemen, I'm new to the site and just want to say hey. Also I'm looking for a mirage omd-c2. I already had the omd-28's and just stole and open box pair of omd-r's from crutchfield for $249 pc w/ free shipping. The only thing missing is the omd-c2. I'm thinking of keeping the omd-5's and making it a 7.1 system. Any help in locating one would be appreciated...
post #6540 of 6690
Just for future reference for any other MM-6 owners out there. I sent my sub in for repair at an authorized shop. They told me that most often it is the amp board that fails. Replacement runs about $150. In my case, the power supply had failed. A replacement cannot be ordered independent of the whole amp module which is about $250.
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