>>> The Official Toshiba 56/62/72 MX195/HM195 HTPC FAQ Thread <<< - Page 3

I thought that you hooked your pc directly to the TV via firewire.

Oy, it's been a while since my experiment and I have muddled it in my memory. The TV was in the middle of the IEEE 1394 daisy chain during my tests. The TV's two IEEE 1394 connections went to the Motorola 6412 and the PC. I did it that way because there is a documented problem with using both of the Motorola's ports. (Of course.)

OK, first of all somebody replied that the tv doesn't accecpt 1080p signals over hdmi.
Then how the hell does the tv accept 1080p at all? The only possible way to get 1080p to this tv is through the hdmi port since component cannot do 1080p.

I also seen stuff about using firewire for 1080p. My first question is how to you select the firewire as one of your inputs to watch through the tv menu? All I see in my menu is HDMI 1 &2, video 1-3, ant 1-2, component hd 1-2. Does a firewire option appear once you plug it in?

I am completely confused about this tv and 1080p. The tv is clearly marketed as a 1080p tv, the max resolution that it should handle is 1920 x 1080 @ 24 fps. Why cant it accept the signal from the video card? Which device is the problem? Is it the tv, the video card, or the catalyst drivers?

Anybody ever update the firmware for the tv? Wonder if this could get things rolling?
All i know is that this forum is my and probably others only chance to get this setup working at 1080p. Lets all put our heads together and figure out how to make this **** work!

Your confusion is due to what might be considered marketing deception.
Your TV will not accept a 1080p signal, period.
They call it a 1080p set because it will take whatever signal you send it (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) and UPSCALE it to 1080p.
There are a couple of sets that WILL take a 1080p signal (HP makes one), but most "1080p" sets on the market today will not.

I have never seen my tv upconvert anything! Everytime I switch between inputs it shows me the signal it is displaying and it has never said 1080p! So how do I know its upconverting? Is there a setting I have to enable on the tv to make this happen? Also, i have read on other posts that someone called Toshiba and they said this tv does in fact accept 1080p signal. Maybe just ******** but i will try to call them myself later. How do i get this thing to upconvert and how do confirm that it is indeed upconverting?

So, you know that the xxHM195 will not accept 1080p via the IEEE1394 ports? If so, do you have a source for this information? Since I may go to the trouble to try it out (and I'm a very lazy person), I'd very much appreciate a heads-up to save me a lot of schlepping and connecting, etc.

1080p is the native resolution of the television itself. Everything that is displayed on the television is being displayed at 1080p. When you switch between inputs, it is showing you the signal that is being input into the television. If it says, 720p, that means that your video SOURCE (htpc, cable box, ect) is OUTPUTING a 720p. The television then upscales this 720p signal to its native 1080p. This is done automatically...this isn't a setting that you have to enable.

The topic of 1080p displays not accepting a 1080p signal has been discussed ad nauseam in the display devices - rear projection units forum.

Ok, I am going to have to learn to accept this. Next question, can anybody tell how to correct the overscan I have when I set the resolution to 1080i using catalyst 6.5 drivers?

I have 62HMX95 TV w/the VGA port. It is only 720p, not 1080p.

Does anyone actually use the VGA port? I know the documentation says that the max resolution is 1024x768... Is that true, or is there a way around it?

Seems like that would be the best input from a PC, if you could run 1280x720... Or something else close to native resolution.

Thoughts?

Jason

why do you think vga (analogue) is the best way to connect?
DLP is a digital technology...use a digital connection.
A DVI-HDMI cable is your best bet. Set your video card to output a 720p signal, and use the underscan adjustments to adjust for the overscan. This will give you 1:1 pixel mapping, and a nice crisp picture.

Let's clear some confusion up, unless you output a 1080 24P signal into your toshiba XXXX195 there is no possible way to garuntee 1:1 pixel mapping. In 720P mode the tv must upscale the signal to 1080P (60 Frames per second) and therefore is not providing 1:1, in 1080i mode the tv must deinterlace so even though theoretically a perfect weave dienterlace would provide a 1:1 mapping, it realistically cannot because the tv must deinterlace which intruduces imperfect calculations. As for toshiba saying that the tv provides for 1080P input, it technically does, 1080 24P not 1080 60P like we would all love. I hope this clears up some of the fog.

You know... You are right. And I even knew that.

I must be brain dead lately. Thanks for setting my stupid question straight. \\

Jason

greatbigsea...there is no confusion/fog...you just aren't paying attention.
The comment was directed to jasonjoel, who clearly stated that he is using a 62HMX95 which is a 720p set. Thus, setting the output to 720p will yield 1:1 pixel mapping.

If he were using a xxHMX195 1080p set, you would be correct.

Hey, I was considering getting a 62HMX95 but I have one major concern and it is shadowing or ghosting or whatever you wanna call it when you play video games or hook up a computer.

Does anyone here play video games on their screen? If so, how are they? Are you using a console or PC?

Thanks

I play games on my 46HM95...mostly flight sims and racing sims, but also some FPS and RTS games, using my htpc. The immersion is incredible.
Once you start gaming with a large widescreen display, you'll never go back to a standard monitor.
No issue with video lag. Older DLP's may have an issue with lag though.
Ghosting/smearing is an LCD issue...not a problem with DLP.
If you're going to game with a PC on a 720p display, it really pays to invest in a fast graphics card...you need to crank up the anti-aliasing to make it look good.

For those of us just getting a xxHM195 model and have an older video card, can someone make a recommended list of new cards that would work well?

So far it seems the newest ATI cards are OK and the Nvidia 6200 and 6600's are good. What about the speed? Would the 6200 be plenty fast for smooth playback at 1080?
If you want to play games would you need a faster card like the 6600?
I wanted to get a decent card, but not a $500 one. More like $100 or maybe $200 if it's worth it.

I would love for someone to post if they have gotten 1080p at 24fps to work with a toshiba 56hm195. I have ati 1900xtx video card hooked up via dvi/hdmi cable. I have tried using powerstrip to set the video resolution at 1080p at 24fps. It did not work. If you have gotten this to work, please post your powerstrip settings so i can try to import them and try them myself. Also, if you got CCC to actually center the image on the screen when connected via hdmi I would love to see how you did that as well!

Anybody got some links or info on how I can get my laptop hooked up to my 72HM195? I didn't know there was a difference between my model and the MX besides the color until I had it home for a while.

I know the manual says to not hook a computer up to this tv. I don't plan on using it as a big monitor, I just want to watch some downloaded TV shows on the TV like I used to with my old TV. I was not expecting some huge boost in resolution. I would be happy with the 480 S-video connection but I just get black and white wavy lines.

I recently tried a VGA>HDMI cable to see if that would work but got nothing to display.

I guess the problem is in the frequency the laptop sends the signal at? Is there a program that will adjust this for me so I can hook the laptop up?

I received the Toshiba 1.3.2 update in the mail today and ran it on my 72HM195. I transfered the data to my computer so I could share it with anyone here that wants it.

It is in a self extracting .rar file you need to first extract. It is a small 12MB file you then need to transfer to your own memory card. Just transfer the files directly on to the card. (no sub folders). Turn your TV on, insert the card and the update will begin. When done pull the card and the TV auto shuts off. the TV may turn on and off a few times. When it is done turn your TV off again and unplug it for a 30 sec. Then replug back in and you are done.

Hope this helps and is easier than calling support and trying to get them to send you a update.

Here is the link for the download. You have to wait a few seconds for the download button to appear. http://www.filesend.net/download.php...9f85eae76815a5

I have had the Toshiba72mx195 for close to a year now, and over the past two weeks the picture on the HDMI setting is too big and cuts of the top and bottom of the screen. People on television now are left with partial heads, and I can no longer see the sports scores at the bottom. The television is set up with a HDTV digital receiver, connected with HDMI cables. The menu picture options do nothing to shrink the picture back into the screen. I am not even given the option of Full screen while in the HDMI input. Can anyone tell me if there is a secret button on the remote that will let me adjust the size of the picture. I noticed on regular cable I can adjust the Picture Scroll, and adjust the picture to fit the screen, but on the HDMI input, this isn't available.

If anyone has an answer I would be appreciative. It's awkward watching shows where the people are missing their heads.

Has anyone been using one of the xxHM195 sets with a PC now for an extended period? There have been some questions in the forum about the warnings in the manual, but there doesn't seem to be much information on why Toshiba said not to use a PC for the video source. My speculation is that the TV was built to process only a few standard signals and is not chipped to handle anything else. The effort it takes to get the ATI cards configured correctly seems to support that. Can anyone say if using a PC has any long term bad effects on the HM195 series? I appreciate the feedback on the safety issue. 8)

After asking many times in different threads about getting my laptop to display on my 72hm195 and only getting people telling me the manual says not to I tried several methods.

Via the S-video all I could get was black and white wavy lines. I tried a VGA>DVI>HDMI conversion and still nothing. I was considering a new video card with DVI out to put in my old desktop or this other fancy video card with dual DVI outputs for my laptop via the PCMCIA slot made by Villagetronic.

Then I saw this gizmo at bestbuy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1124432576056

It hooks up to your homes wireless network to stream video, pictures, and audio files off you computer and connected harddrives to your TV all controlled by a remote. You can operate your computer like it was a monitor but it fixed what I wanted. I have had no problems with the display on my TV.

If you can get your computer to display I think you have nothing to worry about. Toshiba is just trying to cover themselves from liability.

I've had an HTPC hooked up via HDMI at 1080i since february with no problems at all.

Hi, all. I've tried wading thru this thread but can't seem to find just the info I'm looking for.

I have a Toshiba 52HM95 and an All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500DV card in my computer. Using Powerstrip, I can't seem to get any output to the HDTV. My "Advanced Timing Options" is greyed out, so I can't fiddle. Any advice? Is there a monitor file for this TV?

I've been following this thread for about 6 months now. I have the Toshiba 62HM195. I've tried just about every suggestion to achieve 1080i/p HTPC thats been suggested. After 3 pc's (Intel and AMD), multiple video cards (both ATI and Nvidia), Powerstrip custom settings, etc, the best I was able to get was a dismal 1152x648 resolution...until now. I picked up a cheap Emachines from Circuit City, threw in an extra 512mb ram, and purchased a new video card from New Egg. With nothing besides ATI CCC, with DVI -> HDMI, I was able to get 1920x1080i resolution. Sickens me that I wasn't able to get this on PC's 4 times the price. Anyway, thought I would pass this info on.

Emachines T3418 $350 (AMD Sempron 3400+ processor) (64 bit)

Sapphire Radeon X1900GT 256mb $150 (PCI-Xpress x16, HDCP)

I've read this thread and I don't think this has been directly adressed. I'm putting together an HTPC with an nVidia 8800GTS; the TV is 62HM196. Is it correct that I can get this to work via DVI->HDMI without Powestrip using the nVidia control pannel (1920x1080x30)?

Big Valley
I applied the Firmware upgrade to my 56HM195... I was originally thinking that the Firmware was for all HM models... However, now that my TV won't leave the, "Now Booting," screen I think perhaps I could be mistaken...

I followed the directions to a T as they are pretty simple... The Firmware installed and prompted me to remove the SM card and the TV rebooted a few times... Then I unplugged the TV and plugged it back in and it says, "Now Booting."

Any suggestions?

I have the 62HM195 and it is a great TV.

I have it connected to a PC via a DMI to HDMI cable. I am getting full 1080i resolution minus a little overscan.

I have had it connected via XP which was a very simple setup so much so that I am not going to bother to go into the details.

I now have it fully functional in Linux/MythTV and that required a bit of tweaking of the modelines.

my xorg.conf file with modelines is available on the nvnews forum, search on the same user name.

I am using a Nvidia 7600 GS PCIe video card.

I would enter the URL for you, but the morons that host this site think that by forcing folks to post 4 postings prior to allowing a URL to be posted it is going to cut down on spam. It may, but it will also cut down on the useful information that gets posted to this site.

My television is a 62HM196.

My PC is running WXPSP2, using an nVidia 7900GT (256MB) card.

I have connected my PC to my television using a DVI-to-HDMI cable, and I am able to see my desktop on the television, although I have the known overscan issue. I do not have an 'underscan' option - or I do not know how to find it. But that is not the most pressing issue for me at the moment.

When I play back video in WMP or PowerDVD with my card in clone mode, I see the output as expected on my monitor (a Dell 19" LCD), and I see the playing application program on the television - but the window the application is playing is blank. That is, I see Windows Media Player, but it looks as it would if I opened it without selecting any media to play. It is just black. Same with PowerDVD.

By making the Toshiba television the primary display device and adjusting some other settings, I was able to see the output of the media player at one point last night.

My primary problem with this arrangement is that it only works in clone mode - this means that my computer monitor also displays the 16x9 aspect ration of the television, wheras it is not a widescreen monitor.

Does anyone have any settings recommendations which might alleviate my problem?

Thanks for your time.

RFT!!!

I currecntly have my HTPC connected to my Toshiba 46hm95 using a DVI-HDMI cable. The HTPC is running Windows XP Media Center and the video card is a ATI Radeon x1800xl using the catalyst 7.4 drivers. The problem I am having is that the display is not truely full screen. There is a little bit of a black border at the edges. I have downloaded PowerStrip, but was wondering if anyone knew what the settings would be to get full screen 720p. If that is not possible I suppose 1080i would be ok. thanks