Definitive Owners Thread - Page 382

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Keep playing with your front speaker placement. You would be surprised how much of a difference .5 inch tow in , or 1 inch extra from the wall will do to change the sound. Also , father from the wall will sound less boomy and more punchy. And try facing the amped sub drivers out , or in. I think them facing out will sound less bassy. But you can always turn up the gain.
Place with speaker position. The more you do , the more you'll understand how your setup is working with your room.

Right now my fronts are 10ft from the main seating area , with a 1.5 inch toe in and 12 inches from the wall. So far im liking this position from the wall.


Chris

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otk,

I have a Yamaha RX-V659 that can run the presence speakers.

How much info is there overall for those two channels on most BD's nowdays?

Worth a go?

I'm not exactly sure what is meant by mid or mid bass. Or rather that the friends observations were directed at the frequencies above 80Hz or below.

The Yammys use presence speakers which were designed for dialogue lift. The majority of users of this found it to be more useful as 'effects' speakers.

Guys.. need suggestion...I am having problem with setting right LFE for the receiver.
After running the audessy on denon 3808ci. my channel levels came as +1 for front l/r and center and -0.5 for sub. front are set as large speakers and crossover is set as 60 for front, 80 for lfe and rear.....
My question is do i need to select LFE or LFE+ main, according to defetech techincian i need to select LFE+MAIN in doing so i get bommy noise from sub and it is unbearable sound and makes lower the volume or decrease the sub channel level and if i leave on LFE everything is fine but i feel i am missing bass from front speakers..

My setup:
Denon 3808ci(with feature pack upgraded)
bp7004 front l/r
clr2300 center
bp2x rear
supercube 2
ps3

I use just LFE, as I also find LFE+MAIN to be a bit boomy. When you say "everything is fine" but you "feel" you're missing bass from the fronts, do you mean that it literally sounds weak, or more that you're just worried you're not getting full use of the speakers?

You could try overriding the front xover and bringing it down to 40Hz.

Thanks for quick reply...if i set lfe+main i got good sound(bass) from front l/r channels than using lfe.....
I used to have bp2006tl and felt that bass was better than 7004...Let me try changing the xover to 40hz and one more thing audessy set the center channel as small but i changed to large and do u suggest changing that to 40hz too or change that back to small...

Just fyi, I took my 7002s out of their normal position, several feet from the wall, and moved them within an inch of the wall, front and side, in order to see how they would sound as i am trying to put an accoustical screen in front of them. I honestly couldnt tell much difference in the highs, sounded good to me. Of course bass was more, but not boomy like i thought it would be, i do have two floor to ceiling bass traps though. Picture included.

i have never tried it or heard it in person. i only know it exists

from Yamaha:

Presence Speakers: The receiver has two pair of speaker terminals that can be used for Front and Rear Presence speakers. The presence speakers supplement the sound from the front and rear speakers with extra ambient effects produced by Cinema DSP. These effects include sounds that the filmmakers intended to locate a little farther back behind the screen in order to create more theater-like ambience. The Front Presence speakers should be placed at the front of the room about 1-3 feet outside the front speakers while the left and right Rear Presence speakers should be placed the same distance apart as the left and right front speakers. Both the Front and Rear Presence speakers should be mounted six feet or higher.

rocksarkar, I have almost the same setup as you. Well, a lesser denon (2809) and center (2002). Had a good sub, too. (pc12+) But, I could never get them to blend together. It was like the sub was overpowering my system. The sub had the low end covered, believe me. But, it was like I was missing something in-between. (If that's possible) Audyssey set the mains and center to [small] and x-overs were 60 for center and 80 for bp2xs. I tried diff. LFE x-overs ranging from 80-250. How can I get the sub to blend more with the rest of my system?

Now, w/o the sub connected, audyssey set the mains and center to [large]. IMO my setup sounds great as is. My 7004s are toed in around 2-3 in. and ~14in off the back wall.

rocksarkar, is there a big diff. with or w/o the supercube2?

P.S. Why do the specs for the supercubes that they go down to say 14hz or 18hz. Is this an overstatement?

In a word...yes. The better spec is the +/-3dB frequency range, which is often tested for good reviews and also available from DefTech, I believe.

Hi everyone, I'm looking to upgrade my set-up from Promonitor800s to BP8B or BP10B towers. I had a dealer which I bought my current set-up from and unfortunately he no longer carries Definitive. Can someone help me out and PM me with a dealer with good prices?

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6ave.com Call them, and ask for the best price. (Should be about 25% off retail, free ship.)

Firebrick , whats going to be your display , Projector , flat panel? If i had your setup i would try spacing out the towers more. At least to where your farthest left seat to farthest right seat. From the picture , it seems to be around the red drapes area. Try spacing them 1 foot from the wall toed in 1-3 inches. It will give you a BIGGER sound stage. Farther from the wall should sound more airy and full. Keepi trying different configurations. It took me 4 months of speaker placing to finally figure out what i liked best.

My friend was able to get around 30% from them.. I am not sure if i can provide the store and name and sorry if not suppose to
check long branch 6ave.....

I posted before regarding some BP6s and debating on a center channel. I looked at the specs on the Mythos 7 center and Procenter 2000 and the 2000 looks to be better on paper as far as bigger drivers and higher watts handling. I was under the impression that the Mythos series was an upper line so does anyone know which one sounds better? I am gonna try to demo them this wk but any opinions would be helpful?

That is exactly how i had them before. I put them in this position in order to get an accoustic screen in front. I didnt notice much sound loss...strange. Bass is heavier though. I will probably just move them back and get a regular screen.

Ohh , i didnt know u were gonna go with an acoustic screen. Your going to need to play around. Id go for a regular screen. Those Def techs will probably sound better not behind an acoustic screen because even though it has tiny holes sound is going to behave differently through that.


PLUS the Def Techs LOOK badass!!!

I've always wondered about those acoustic screens. I thought they weren't suppose to change the sound much, but it would just seem that they would have to have some impact.

i really wanted to hide my speakers, may have to give these up and get some direct radiators.

If you don't mind not having a warranty and the other things that could go wrong, there's always this route.http://cgi.ebay.com/Definitive-BP10B...3A2%7C294%3A50

that's cool. you might want to take the socks down once your AT screen is in front of them

i dont know how much of an impact , but its gotta be something right? I bet theres charts on it though.

I would think there'd be more impact on a bipolar speaker than a direct radiating, but that's just my non-expert opinion. Anybody have any scientific data on how bipoles perform behind acoustic screens?

This is just a manufacturers statement in their add; Acoustically Transparent Screens by Draper
Even though you've chosen the right place to go for your Home Theatre equipment, you are still making a significant investment in what you hope to be a wonderful room...to make that movie theater experience. In home theaters, the rubber meets the road on the screen. Performance should be your prime consideration when choosing a screen since it is for permanent installation.

Acoustically transparent materials provide an enhanced theatrical experience. However, they are not recommended for screens smaller than 80" wide when used with DLP and LCD projectors. Acoustically transparent screens do not compromise picture or sound quality. You can place loudspeakers behind it with no performance penalty, and enjoy projection images completely free of the moiré interference patterns that plague traditional vinyl perforated screens.

There are no holes that create moiré, and the screen does not degrade sound quality.

AT1200 and AT Grey is available in fixed and electric retractable models, in standard and custom widths. Instead of using snaps or Velcro®, the screen fabric is stretched evenly via self-tensioning V-shaped grooves. A spring tension insert grabs the fabric and locks it firmly into the frame with no bowing or creasing.

Call one of our screen experts at 888-764-9273 to discuss your situation.

Hello Def Tech owners. I have a pair of 7006s and the left tower has a rattling sound to it. I can't exactly pinpoint where it's coming from. Not sure if it's the sub or the radiators. The right tower sounds fine. Could something just be loose, or is one of the speakers blown? These are my first pair of tower speakers so I don't have much experience with them. I definitely need some help with these. Looking forward to your replies.

BigBoss, i can tell you that I had a similar problem a couple weeks ago. Turns out that my rattling was just the wall behind it rattling. I would suggest that you try to localize the rattling to find out where it's coming from. I'm sure the guys here are going to ask you the same thing. Some people have said that sometimes a wire will come loose and rest against one of the radiators causing it to rattle. When I opened my speaker up I found that all wires had foam glued to them. So it couldn't have rattled. Find out where the rattle seems to come from. If you can't figure it out, def tech has fantastic customer service. Most people here seem to go directly to a gentleman named Chet at Def Tech. I've dealt with him once, and it was the best customer service I've ever had. Sorry for the rambling. Try to figure out where the rattling is coming from.

Is anyone out there using BP7002's with a CLR3000? I currently have a CLR2500 and want to know if its worth the upgrade? I know to upgrade my BP7004's to BP7002's is well worth the investment.