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post #16831 of 29423
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Originally Posted by bakpakva View Post

Believe it or not, I don't touch the knobs or move anything around anymore, but I do follow this thread daily. I know they will probably take away my tweaker card now, but I am just happy with how everything is situated and don't want to touch it anymore. (Although I am following the MFW-15 turbo kit upgrade with some curiosity).

I personally don't consider the 3000 a full range speaker, and I cross it over at 80 Hz, but I find it has more 'clarity and fullness throughout its useful range than non-powered centers. Dialog seems fuller and easier for me to understand. Pans seem to flow more seamlessly with the 3000 than they did when I tried a non-powered center with a center dedicated sub underneath. It could have been the difference in brands and driver size that contributed to this effect, so I am not saying others might find just the opposite results.

It does take some effort to set the sub gain properly, but it can be done easily by ear with a full range noise reference, just like I do with the towers. Verifying with REW never hurts as a final tweak. I am pretty quiet now on the AVS boards, but the basement theater is rockin'!

Happy Easter, everyone!

Contentment
Maybe someday I'll know that feeling.
I must agree with your POV with the powered centers, but I've never ran a separate sub attached to the center.
Good luck with the turbo upgrade progress.

'The Spot' is certainly a top notch setup.
post #16832 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Felton007 View Post

I'm using a drawing from another member who made his own. I think he got his schematic from Chet. Probaly not better off costwise to do it this way but I got one BPVX fron Audiogon shipped to me for $200.00 & just trying to complete the pair.

Not better off cost-wise ?
That's very disappointing to hear. I haven't ran any numbers myself, but I would have suspected a decent savings with that strategy.
post #16833 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Felton007 View Post

Black lacquer on cherry endcaps? Got any pics(preferably alongside the 7004's)? I'm trying to assemble some BPVX's.

They look just like any other BPX with black end caps now. All I did was remove the caps, lightly sand them, and then about 5 coats of the black lacquer paint. Put the caps back on and I was done. I'm not home right now so no pics for now, but like I said, they now look like any other black BPX. You also could make your own end caps if you have access to come basic woodworking tools. Good luck on your project.
post #16834 of 29423
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Originally Posted by bakpakva View Post

Believe it or not, I don't touch the knobs or move anything around anymore, but I do follow this thread daily. I know they will probably take away my tweaker card now, but I am just happy with how everything is situated and don't want to touch it anymore. (Although I am following the MFW-15 turbo kit upgrade with some curiosity).

I personally don't consider the 3000 a full range speaker, and I cross it over at 80 Hz, but I find it has more 'clarity and fullness throughout its useful range than non-powered centers. Dialog seems fuller and easier for me to understand. Pans seem to flow more seamlessly with the 3000 than they did when I tried a non-powered center with a center dedicated sub underneath. It could have been the difference in brands and driver size that contributed to this effect, so I am not saying others might find just the opposite results.

It does take some effort to set the sub gain properly, but it can be done easily by ear with a full range noise reference, just like I do with the towers. Verifying with REW never hurts as a final tweak. I am pretty quiet now on the AVS boards, but the basement theater is rockin'!

Happy Easter, everyone!

Happy Easter bakpak and everyone else who celebrates it

i'm watching Easter Mass now live from the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception on EWTN

beautiful cathedral and nice sounding pipe organ
post #16835 of 29423
ok, enough EWTN. time for some blu rays

post #16836 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Scarier View Post

Hi guys I'm a little freaked out by what just happened to my BP7004s. I was playing around with the sound output options in both my blu-ray player and receiver, and between switching different sound formats something must've gone wrong. It seemed like there was a small jolt of electricity sent to the speakers because I heard a little rattling/clanking on the right tower. I'm guessing it was the bass driver receiving a static signal of some sort from my messing around with the different sound settings on the fly internally. So far I haven't heard anything different, and the bass driver is still outputting bass and I can feel the cone moving.

Should I be concerned or are the drivers more durable than what my fear would have me believe in the worst case scenario?

Hi Scarier,

Normally I would let one of the other guys touch on this, but since no one has replied I'd throw in my $0.02.

I have the 7002 towers, and i have had this happen to me a couple times in fact. The similarity between the two incidents was that my volume was turned up a little too loud while switching settings or even turning the system on before the amps in the towers had turned on.

I know the sound you're describing, as I nearly shat myself when i heard it. But I haven't had any negative effects from it. I say just be careful of your volume level when changing settings and I think you'll be ok. If you want more clarification, and that extra reassurance, you can always email Chet at Def Tech.

Chet.Pelkowski@definitivetech.com
post #16837 of 29423
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Originally Posted by headedforhighend View Post

Not better off cost-wise ?
That's very disappointing to hear. I haven't ran any numbers myself, but I would have suspected a decent savings with that strategy.

Definitely cheaper than retail but not much better than you could get used or refurbished I should say.

Ballpark figures based on what I've seen on ebay for parts:

Cabinet $75.00
Crossover 20.00
End Cap(pair) 60.00
Sock 20.00
Mids(4) 140.00
Tweets(pair) 60.00

Total 375.00
Pair of BPVX 750.00

I guess the single I picked up for two bills just spoiled me ;D
post #16838 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Felton007 View Post

Definitely cheaper than retail but not much better than you could get used or refurbished I should say.

Ballpark figures based on what I've seen on ebay for parts:

Cabinet $75.00
Crossover 20.00
End Cap(pair) 60.00
Sock 20.00
Mids(4) 140.00
Tweets(pair) 60.00

Total 375.00
Pair of BPVX 750.00

I guess the single I picked up for two bills just spoiled me ;D

Thanks for the breakdown. Should there also be a binding post plate or whatever it may be called?
At least it would come with a lifetime warranty... your own.

You know guys, it sure would be nice to have a shelf/room at each of our homes, that was stocked with a variety of parts matching our setups.
Hmmm...
post #16839 of 29423
http://picasaweb.google.com/Advanced.../HomeTheater2#

for those who wanted to see my current setup. Its in my moms basement till i start building my house next year. The room is alittle small , lol..
Watching transformers last night, i was amazed at the performance of the 7001sc towers. And moving the 7002 to the sides also added a better surround effect than just the m350's i had.

I have a pair of mint studio monitor 350's for sale if anyone wants them , pm me.


Thanks, Chris
post #16840 of 29423
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

http://picasaweb.google.com/Advanced.../HomeTheater2#

for those who wanted to see my current setup. Its in my moms basement till i start building my house next year. The room is alittle small , lol..
Watching transformers last night, i was amazed at the performance of the 7001sc towers. And moving the 7002 to the sides also added a better surround effect than just the m350's i had.

I have a pair of mint studio monitor 350's for sale if anyone wants them , pm me.


Thanks, Chris

Gonna be a killer setup. Thanks for the link to your pics.
I didn't see components listed, maybe I missed it.

Nice photos from Hawaii, but how 'bout the pics from a night on Hotel Street in Honolulu... , didn't you do some low rent partying with the locals.
post #16841 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Felton007 View Post

I'm using a drawing from another member who made his own. I think he got his schematic from Chet. Probaly not better off costwise to do it this way but I got one BPVX fron Audiogon shipped to me for $200.00 & just trying to complete the pair.

I think it was me that sent you the wiring schematic. I took a part one of my 7001 towers to see how they were wired (up top anyway) and then verified with chet what the schematic was for the bpvx's and that it was the same in the 7000, 7001 series. In addition to that I have been rockin my homemade bpvx's for 4 months now and couldn't be happier

The only "problem" I've had that I might warn you about is that I recently acquired an audio test dvd and discovered that when I ran a 100-20 hz sweep to each of my bpvx's it revealed that a couple of my 6.5's were not seated all the way. That is there was air leaks and it served like a baffle thus the cabinet was not sealed, I could actually feel air moving around the "leaky" drivers and it made the speaker sound almost like it was blown. Now I know that the frequencies mentioned in my sweep aren't generally run to the bpvx's but I was only using it as a test to reveal the problem because it was a lot easier to diagnose with the low frequency sounds. I was not aware of this because they had not been tested so scrupulously before and it really made the sound output weak. So I just made sure to get all the drivers seated properly and continued repeating the test signal and once sealed the output cleaned and tightened right up and they have been magnificent.

Hopefully you have less trouble!

Incidentally, my homemade bpvx's ended up costing about $220 each. $200 for drivers and I didn't buy cabinets, sock, or endcaps but made my own cabinets from 3/4" mdf and my wife sowed up some homemade speaker cover material that I can just velcro onto the back. When all put together they look 98% as good as the real deal.
post #16842 of 29423
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

ok, enough EWTN. time for some blu rays


I would be very interested to hear you review of both Baraka (just became a recent convert) and 9 as I have been dancing around this one for a bit but have not seen it.
post #16843 of 29423
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Originally Posted by headedforhighend View Post

Gonna be a killer setup. Thanks for the link to your pics.
I didn't see components listed, maybe I missed it.

Nice photos from Hawaii, but how 'bout the pics from a night on Hotel Street in Honolulu... , didn't you do some low rent partying with the locals.

Thanx buddy , heres some video footage i made of maui and kauai. I have been to Oahu but dont remember Hotel Street. Is that a popular street in the city?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAl9xt-RmEk&feature=fvsr its in HD so dont forget to click HD at the bottom , 1080p.


my gear consists of

60inch pioneer 141
pioneer bluray 09fd
xbox elite
ps3 - gave to my newphew but will purchase another one
def tech clr3000
def tech 7001sc
def tech 7002
wyred 4 sound 500x3 250x2 ( need 2 more channel upgrade)
audience ar12 power conditioner
post #16844 of 29423
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

Thanx buddy , heres some video footage i made of maui and kauai. I have been to Oahu but dont remember Hotel Street. Is that a popular street in the city?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAl9xt-RmEk&feature=fvsr its in HD so dont forget to click HD at the bottom , 1080p.

awesome footage and picture quality

i've been researching new camcorders. my old Sony DCR-TRV900 started suffering from audio drop-outs. not good for recording pipe organ concerts. Sony wants a $500 flat fee to repair it. paid over $2500 for it back around 2001. still goes for about a grand used

i've been looking at the Canon VIXIA HF S100 HD. it's about to be replaced by the 2010 model S200 but from what i've read, the S100 will use the same high quality lens and i could save a ton of money right now by getting the S100 which is about to be discontinued

i'm sure it's nothing like the lens that's in your XH-A1
post #16845 of 29423
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

awesome footage and picture quality

i've been researching new camcorders. my old Sony DCR-TRV900 started suffering from audio drop-outs. not good for recording pipe organ concerts. Sony wants a $500 flat fee to repair it. paid over $2500 for it back around 2001. still goes for about a grand used

i've been looking at the Canon VIXIA HF S100 HD. it's about to be replaced by the 2010 model S200 but from what i've read, the S100 will use the same high quality lens and i could save a ton of money right now by getting the S100 which is about to be discontinued

i'm sure it's nothing like the lens that's in your XH-A1

The heart of the XH-A1 is the lens and 3 chips. if your thinking of getting a new camcorder , panasonic has a sick $1000.00 camcorder , camcorderinfo.com or wait for canons new pro camcorder with its all new codec that does 4:2:2 for about $3500 - $5000.00
post #16846 of 29423
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

The heart of the XH-A1 is the lens and 3 chips. if your thinking of getting a new camcorder , panasonic has a sick $1000.00 camcorder , camcorderinfo.com or wait for canons new pro camcorder with its all new codec that does 4:2:2 for about $3500 - $5000.00

thanks, i'll look into the panasonic. my sony is a 3 chip but it's SD. it was considered "semi-pro" or "pro-sumer" at the time. still takes great video but the audio has occasional drop-outs
post #16847 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Felton007 View Post

Black lacquer on cherry endcaps? Got any pics(preferably alongside the 7004's)? I'm trying to assemble some BPVX's.

Here's a couple of pictures on how the BPX's turned out and the front stage with the CLR1000b and the 7004's. The CLR used to be in the gap above the TV but I have a 106" Dalite screen that hangs in front when we want to watch a movie. Still need to finish the room with some crown molding.
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post #16848 of 29423
they look great badgerpilot
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Thanks b'pilot. The DTs sure look sharp.
BTW,
That's a big friggin entertainment center.
post #16850 of 29423
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

they look great badgerpilot

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Originally Posted by headedforhighend View Post

Thanks b'pilot. The DTs sure look sharp.
BTW,
That's a big friggin entertainment center.

Thanks. I know, it is a bit large. The DT's look small in comparison. Guess I need some 7000's for perspective - right? When the screen goes up, it covers the majority of it though.
post #16851 of 29423
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post

Here's a couple of pictures on how the BPX's turned out and the front stage with the CLR1000b and the 7004's. The CLR used to be in the gap above the TV but I have a 106" Dalite screen that hangs in front when we want to watch a movie. Still need to finish the room with some crown molding.
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Damn bro! , you made these surrounds! Very well done!
post #16852 of 29423
Hey guys, just updated my setup. I just purchased an SVS sub to along with my other 7 Def Tech speakers. I have the 7002's and ran them large with my SuperCube II. Now with my SVS PB12-plus I am running all speakers small and sounds amazing. Check out my sig for pics of my setup. Take care!
post #16853 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Bigham16 View Post

Hey guys, just updated my setup. I just purchased an SVS sub to along with my other 7 Def Tech speakers. I have the 7002's and ran them large with my SuperCube II. Now with my SVS PB12-plus I am running all speakers small and sounds amazing. Check out my sig for pics of my setup. Take care!

That is awesome dude! Looks so clean and refined, I especially appreciate that no wires can be seen going to the tv. I know that didn't happen by accident
post #16854 of 29423
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

Damn bro! , you made these surrounds! Very well done!

Nooooo, I only repainted the end caps When I purchased them they where the cherry ones. I wish I could take credit for building them
post #16855 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Bigham16 View Post

Hey guys, just updated my setup. I just purchased an SVS sub to along with my other 7 Def Tech speakers. I have the 7002's and ran them large with my SuperCube II. Now with my SVS PB12-plus I am running all speakers small and sounds amazing. Check out my sig for pics of my setup. Take care!

Very nice! I wish I had room for a sub like that! Still trying to figure out which sub and where to put it.
post #16856 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Sideofpotatos View Post

That is awesome dude! Looks so clean and refined, I especially appreciate that no wires can be seen going to the tv. I know that didn't happen by accident

Thanks Sideofpotatos!! Don't know what they are called but didn't have one of those things that feed wire behind dry wall. I used my car antenna and duck tape to feed the wires behind that wall. Thought, maybe 10 to 15 minutes to feed the wires....NOOOO it took me about 45 to an hour. The wires kept getting stuck . None the less it is done but I am sure It is going to be a fun day when I have to take them out .
post #16857 of 29423
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post

Very nice! I wish I had room for a sub like that! Still trying to figure out which sub and where to put it.

Thanks badgerpilot. It is cool to buy stuff but to make/paint speakers as well as you have is a real treat. Your setup is awesome! I want to get BPX's so bad but my walls will not let me.
post #16858 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Sideofpotatos View Post

I would be very interested to hear you review of both Baraka (just became a recent convert) and 9 as I have been dancing around this one for a bit but have not seen it.

Baraka was amazing. awesome picture quality and sound

heavy use of the surrounds. almost constant use of the surrounds

lot of scenes made me glad that i use separate LFE subs with all speakers set to large. there are parts where the director wants "in your face" bass that is really strong and sent to the LFE channel to rock your world and there's bass that's meant for the other channels that sounds just amazing. there's one scene where there's a continuous bass rhythm coming from the center channel that was pretty cool

district 9 was sent back yesterday, watching "9" tonight probably

should have 2012 tomorrow
post #16859 of 29423
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Originally Posted by Bigham16 View Post

Thanks badgerpilot. It is cool to buy stuff but to make/paint speakers as well as you have is a real treat. Your setup is awesome! I want to get BPX's so bad but my walls will not let me.

The BPX's are definitely worth every penny
post #16860 of 29423
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

Baraka was amazing. awesome picture quality and sound

heavy use of the surrounds. almost constant use of the surrounds

lot of scenes made me glad that i use separate LFE subs with all speakers set to large. there are parts where the director wants "in your face" bass that is really strong and sent to the LFE channel to rock your world and there's bass that's meant for the other channels that sounds just amazing. there's one scene where there's a continuous bass rhythm coming from the center channel that was pretty cool

district 9 was sent back yesterday, watching "9" tonight probably

should have 2012 tomorrow

Thanks, that's some great info. I am finding that the more the surrounds are used in a movie the more I like the movie and Baraka is certainly the flagship of that principle with the surrounds being almost as busy as the fronts. I got to host 2012 and that has an extremely powerful soundtrack, you should have fun. One of my "passengers" said to me "we were there!"
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