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post #181 of 29303
3/29/06 at 8:20pm
Anyone in here with StudioMonitors? What stands are you using? Does DefTech make stands for these or do you use 3rd party stands? I am looking for something that matches but looks really nice.
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post #182 of 29303
3/29/06 at 9:22pm
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Sharpie,

I had the Studio Monitor 450s for about 8 months. I reallys enjoyed them, much more open then other bookshelf speakers out there. If you want more oomp grab the PowerMonitor 500s.

As for stands I used some $50 Radioshack ones. I would recommend some nice steel ones though.

~Bob
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post #183 of 29303
3/29/06 at 9:32pm
khellandros, thanks for the info. Today I heard the StudioMonitor 350s, and I heard the PowerMonitors, but I forget which ones.

I thought PowerMonitors sounded good, although I didn't spend much time with them and I am not sure I need the extra bass since I will have the SuperCubeII and I am concerned about muddying up the mids with the PowerMonitor. But maybe that can easily be rectified using the knob on the back?

I guess what I really want to do is see how different the 450's sound from the 350s. The dealer today said they were the least popular compared to the 350s and too boomy. Did you feel that way about them? And what type of music/movies did you use them for, and what receiver did you use? Just curious.

I don't know what it is but I am way more impressed with these than I was with the $5K Sonus Faber Grand Pianos that I heard recently. I just wasn't that impressed with that, and it was 10x the price. Go figure.
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post #184 of 29303
3/29/06 at 9:50pm
I am using a Definitive Technology ProSub 80 Powered Subwoofer, I am using a Denon tuner and low level output out to the sub, problem is the subwoofer keeps turning off (I am assuming it has something to do with the auto turn on feature). It will turn itself off then if I power cycle the sub it comes back on for a while.

Any suggestions????


TIA


NH
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post #185 of 29303
3/29/06 at 10:10pm
Can anyone recommend a DefTech center channel to go with StudioMonitor 350s? I was thinking the c/l/r 2500s. Is that overkill?
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post #186 of 29303
3/30/06 at 5:25am
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Can anyone recommend a DefTech center channel to go with StudioMonitor 350s? I was thinking the c/l/r 2500s. Is that overkill?

I am using a Mythos 7 as a center with BP8b mains. With both set to "small" and crossed over at 80hz, the blending is flawless (identical tweeter, very similar overall timbre.)
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post #187 of 29303
3/30/06 at 5:45am
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I am using a Definitive Technology ProSub 80 Powered Subwoofer, I am using a Denon tuner and low level output out to the sub, problem is the subwoofer keeps turning off (I am assuming it has something to do with the auto turn on feature). It will turn itself off then if I power cycle the sub it comes back on for a while.

Any suggestions????


TIA


NH

I'm not familiar with either unit, but perhaps a couple option..

Can you turn up the sub output level in the receiver and then to compensate, turn down the sub volume?

If you are using a single cable to the sub, can you use a Y splitter at the sub to feed the signal to two inputs?

While a PITA, perhaps don't use the auto power-on if either of the above don't or can't work for you. Maybe auto power is the only choice?

Another possibility is that it's shutting off because there is no signal going to the subwoofer. Perhaps there is something configured improperly so the sub output is not outputting?

If none of these are options or don't seem to fix the problem, I'd contact Definitive.

Another suggestion is to list the brand AND model of the equipment you are having trouble with. A "Denon tuner" doesn't tell us much....
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post #188 of 29303
3/30/06 at 8:07am
i got all my def tech stuff in and love it. what a difference over the klipsch towers! amount of bass from the 7002s and supercube I is crazy. heres my question. . i bought 4 bpvx surrounds for my rears to complete my system. i heard them at magnolia, sounded great. now how is this bipolar technology that def tech uses different from the Wide Dispersion Surround Technology my klipsch rears use?

Brandonc
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post #189 of 29303
3/30/06 at 8:35am
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i got all my def tech stuff in and love it. what a difference over the klipsch towers! amount of bass from the 7002s and supercube I is crazy. heres my question. . i bought 4 bpvx surrounds for my rears to complete my system. i heard them at magnolia, sounded great. now how is this bipolar technology that def tech uses different from the Wide Dispersion Surround Technology my klipsch rears use?

Brandonc

Considering that each of your 7002's has a Supercube in it already, I can't see adding another one. No wonder you are getting a crazy amount of bass!
I think that Klipsch uses a forward-firing midrange and bipolar tweeters. The Def-Techs are true bipolars, with a complete speaker on each side. They are also timbre-matched to the rest of your system. (Of course, they are also Def-Tech, which makes them awesome!)
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post #190 of 29303
3/30/06 at 1:15pm
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I am using a Definitive Technology ProSub 80 Powered Subwoofer, I am using a Denon tuner and low level output out to the sub, problem is the subwoofer keeps turning off (I am assuming it has something to do with the auto turn on feature). It will turn itself off then if I power cycle the sub it comes back on for a while.

Any suggestions????


TIA


NH

It has to have a low enough bass signal. It will not come on unless a signal less than your setting is sent to it. Good dvds such as Blade for example will turn it on.
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post #191 of 29303
3/30/06 at 7:34pm
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i got all my def tech stuff in and love it. what a difference over the klipsch towers! amount of bass from the 7002s and supercube I is crazy. heres my question. . i bought 4 bpvx surrounds for my rears to complete my system. i heard them at magnolia, sounded great. now how is this bipolar technology that def tech uses different from the Wide Dispersion Surround Technology my klipsch rears use?

Brandonc

The Def Tech's are bi-polar. The Klipsch surrounds are not. Also, the Def Tech's have 2 tweeters where as the Klipsch speaker has one with a horn design. They are completely different designs. The Def Tech's will afford you a more diffuse soundfield in the rear.

Scott
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post #192 of 29303
3/30/06 at 8:37pm
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Sharpie,

I think that if properlly atenuated the PM500s would blow the 350s and 450s away. Once they open up and break in the speakers with powered subs are a different kind of animal. The 450s are hardsly what I would call muddy, as I have demoed almost all of the Definitive line over the past 3 years.

This is the system I would recommend you get. With the PM500 system as first draft.

PowerMonitor 500
CLR 2300
BP2x (x4)
SuperCube II

or

StudioMonitor 450
CLR2002
BP2x (x4)
SuperCube II (add a second later)

~Bob
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post #193 of 29303
3/30/06 at 9:14pm
Bob.. I guess it might be a matter of tastes, I didn't read your post before I placed the order, but I did order the 350s. I auditioned them against the 450s and the Mythos Ones.

I agree the 450s aren't muddy. They do take a lot of the detail off in exchange for a more room filling sound. They are warmer, a little less airy. But after an hour of A/B, I went with the 350s. I just preferred them, but I don't think they are better or worse, just a preference. Another thing to keep in mind is I will be running them through my Arcam AVR250, which has a very smooth and slightly warm sound. I think that will take the slight edge off the 350s and it would probably add too much warmth to the 450s.

I figure its a small investment, if I love them, and want to get something different, I can throw my 350s in another room, and upgrade. But honestly I liked the sound of the 350s a bit better than the 450s, and 10x better than the more than three times as expensive Mythos Ones. And that was listening to the LOTR soundtrack, so go figure.

But honestly, I am now a DefTech owner and a new appreciator (word?) of their products.

As far as the PowerMonitors, I didn't have as much time to audition them, but with my SuperCubeII, I just didn't feel I needed them in the tiny room I have. But they were cool.

I'll post more when I get my new 350s.
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post #194 of 29303
3/31/06 at 11:53am
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Ok you got the 350's you said, well I would still grab a second SuberCube II. The 350s are fantastic bookshelf speaker and won't dissappoint at all.

~Bob
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post #195 of 29303
3/31/06 at 2:05pm
Quick question for all you Def Techies. Anybody using floor spikes on their towers? Pros and cons if you please.
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post #196 of 29303
3/31/06 at 2:09pm
I'm not because my 7002's are on hard wood floors. I would break them out if it was on carpet. J.H.
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post #197 of 29303
3/31/06 at 2:40pm
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Bob.. I guess it might be a matter of tastes, I didn't read your post before I placed the order, but I did order the 350s. I auditioned them against the 450s and the Mythos Ones.

I agree the 450s aren't muddy. They do take a lot of the detail off in exchange for a more room filling sound. They are warmer, a little less airy. But after an hour of A/B, I went with the 350s. I just preferred them, but I don't think they are better or worse, just a preference. Another thing to keep in mind is I will be running them through my Arcam AVR250, which has a very smooth and slightly warm sound. I think that will take the slight edge off the 350s and it would probably add too much warmth to the 450s.

I figure its a small investment, if I love them, and want to get something different, I can throw my 350s in another room, and upgrade. But honestly I liked the sound of the 350s a bit better than the 450s, and 10x better than the more than three times as expensive Mythos Ones. And that was listening to the LOTR soundtrack, so go figure.

But honestly, I am now a DefTech owner and a new appreciator (word?) of their products.

As far as the PowerMonitors, I didn't have as much time to audition them, but with my SuperCubeII, I just didn't feel I needed them in the tiny room I have. But they were cool.

I'll post more when I get my new 350s.

How do you like the Supercube II? I'm considering it along with a set of Mythos speakers. According to the specs the SCII has a 1250 Watt amplifier. That's a lot of power. Can you run it on a normal 15 amp power line along with all the other components that are in a HT system?
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post #198 of 29303
3/31/06 at 2:48pm
Nightlight, I have not received my speakers yet, should be here next Wed. Believe me the wait is not fun.

I'll let you know when I get them set up. I am expecting to have to tweak a bit since my room is very different than the treated rooms I auditioned them in. I have wood floors but I'm laying down a rug this weekend and probably will be putting a knit quilt hanging on the oposing wall, hopefully that will cut down on reflections of sound.

I'm also running them along with an Arcam AVR250, I am thinking it might add a bit of warmth to them, they were wonderful when I heard them with the Onkyo Integra and the Denon but I am hoping the Arcam will take it to another level.
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post #199 of 29303
3/31/06 at 3:03pm
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Nightlight, I have not received my speakers yet, should be here next Wed. Believe me the wait is not fun.

I'll let you know when I get them set up. I am expecting to have to tweak a bit since my room is very different than the treated rooms I auditioned them in. I have wood floors but I'm laying down a rug this weekend and probably will be putting a knit quilt hanging on the oposing wall, hopefully that will cut down on reflections of sound.

I'm also running them along with an Arcam AVR250, I am thinking it might add a bit of warmth to them, they were wonderful when I heard them with the Onkyo Integra and the Denon but I am hoping the Arcam will take it to another level.

It sounds like a great system. Do you happen to know how many amps the Supercube II draws? I need to run my entire HT system off couple of outlets that are on the same 15 amp circuit. I want to be sure it is enough.
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post #200 of 29303
3/31/06 at 4:04pm
That's a good question, one I think I should have probably asked beforehand myself Guess I'll find out..
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post #201 of 29303
3/31/06 at 5:13pm
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It sounds like a great system. Do you happen to know how many amps the Supercube II draws? I need to run my entire HT system off couple of outlets that are on the same 15 amp circuit. I want to be sure it is enough.

Its a class D digital amp - you should be fine. I run my Velodyne DD18 in my showroom using my main 15 amp circuit on which all my lights are on as well as my BPVX/Ps and 7000SCs. Of course I also have three dedicated 20 amp circuits for my rack.
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post #202 of 29303
3/31/06 at 9:18pm
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Its a class D digital amp - you should be fine. I run my Velodyne DD18 in my showroom using my main 15 amp circuit on which all my lights are on as well as my BPVX/Ps and 7000SCs. Of course I also have three dedicated 20 amp circuits for my rack.

That's good to know. Does a class D digital amp use less power than a standard amp?
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post #203 of 29303
3/31/06 at 11:05pm
Here's a good place for us Def Tech owners/fans to make ourselves known and list the Def Techs in which we own, and are proud of.

http://www.frappr.com/definitivetechnology

Let's show are support and fill that map up.
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post #204 of 29303
3/31/06 at 11:08pm
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I know they use a 12a 250w slow blow fuse. Yes you can use it in cojunction with oter amps, subs etc. The 1250w MS is not continuous this is peaks, on avereage most speaker only use 20-50w and spike or peaks of volume ina movie use that amount.

~Bob
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post #205 of 29303
4/1/06 at 7:59am
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I know they use a 12a 250w slow blow fuse. Yes you can use it in cojunction with oter amps, subs etc. The 1250w MS is not continuous this is peaks, on avereage most speaker only use 20-50w and spike or peaks of volume ina movie use that amount.

~Bob

I guess my concern is that one of those spikes could trip the circuit breaker. How loud do you have to listen to get a spike in power that high?
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post #206 of 29303
4/1/06 at 8:40am
I've had my SCII for a while now it never blew a circuit and its plugged in with lots of other stuff. I wouldn't worry about it. J.H.
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post #207 of 29303
4/1/06 at 9:18am
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I've had my SCII for a while now it never blew a circuit and its plugged in with lots of other stuff. I wouldn't worry about it. J.H.

How do you like the SCII? I'm considering it with Mythos Four's for the fronts, a Mythos Three center, and Mythos Gems for the rears. I would be running these along with a reciever, dvd player, cable box, and plasma on the same 15 amp circuit. Incidently, have you ever auditioned the SCIII? I normally listen at moderate volume. My living room is 12X14, but is open on one end to a similar size dining room. I'm wondering how much difference there is between the SCII and SCIII at moderate volume levels.
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post #208 of 29303
4/1/06 at 9:38am
Your Guideance is appreciated... I've had Bose 901's for 27yrs... love the soundstage and is why I am so drawn to Def Tech. Got their UIW94's in the ceiling for rears, CLR 2500 center, and Supercube 1 sub. Now have some money to replace the 901's... but with what?

Went to CES this year and with my SAF concerns (spouse acceptance factor) the DefTech guy said I would love the BP10b's with my sub. I have not heard them. I have heard and LOVE the (kinda big) BP7002! But would have to sell the Supercube to get those... I guess I don't need CRAZY bass... but am concerned with losing my CUBE. The 10b's would be easiest... no electric plugs, no sub to sell... but I do want to upgrade the sound for the money spent.

Your Thoughts:
1. Anyone heard BP10b w/sub vs BP7002's no/sub? What do ya think?
2. 901VI vs Def Tech sound difference

Thanks!
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post #209 of 29303
4/1/06 at 9:44am
Your Guideance is appreciated... I've had Bose 901's for 27yrs... love the soundstage and is why I am so drawn to Def Tech. Got their UIW94's in the ceiling for rears, CLR 2500 center, and Supercube 1 sub. Now have some money to replace the 901's... but with what?

Went to CES this year and with my SAF concerns (spouse acceptance factor) the DefTech guy said I would love the BP10b's with my sub. I have not heard them. I have heard and LOVE the (kinda big) BP7002! But would have to sell the Supercube to get those... I guess I don't need CRAZY bass... but am concerned with losing my CUBE. The 10b's would be easiest... no electric plugs, no sub to sell... but I do want to upgrade the sound for the money spent.

Your Thoughts:
1. Anyone heard BP10b w/sub vs BP7002's no/sub? What do ya think?
2. 901VI vs Def Tech sound difference

Thanks!
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post #210 of 29303
4/1/06 at 9:49am
Nightlight in my opinion the SCII is incredible. I have it turned up half way and set to 0 on my Parasound processor and it blows the house apart. I think its a great little sub with much power. I should say though my SCII is working with 2 7002s as main which puts out some nice bass too. I think DTs subs are great but then again I am very much biased I love Dinfinitive Technology speakers I have had them for like 9 years now. Any other questions I have the owners manual right here. J.H.
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