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post #211 of 30951
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Originally Posted by J.H. View Post

Nightlight in my opinion the SCII is incredible. I have it turned up half way and set to 0 on my Parasound processor and it blows the house apart. I think its a great little sub with much power. I should say though my SCII is working with 2 7002s as main which puts out some nice bass too. I think DTs subs are great but then again I am very much biased I love Dinfinitive Technology speakers I have had them for like 9 years now. Any other questions I have the owners manual right here. J.H.

Wow! That's a lot of bass. The 7002 has a built-in supercube subwoofer. It must sound incredible. How would you compare the bass from the 7002 to the SCII? I noticed that 7002 has a 300 watt amp vs. 1250 in the SCII, but the speaker itself is bigger in the 7002 (12" vs. 8").
post #212 of 30951
I think if you had a small enough room the 7002 would be planty of bass but a SCII would still be a great move. I have 1250 watts in the SCII and 600watts between the 2 7002s so I'm good on bass for a long while. They also have a SCIII if you needed something even smaller. As my salesman said" this is for guys whos wife wont let themn have the big ones". You could also step up to PB7001 or 7000s and then you talk about built in bass. As I said I love DTs. Just talking about it makes me want to go up to my guys and make a new purchase even though I don't need anything. J.H.
post #213 of 30951
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Originally Posted by J.H. View Post

I've had my SCII for a while now it never blew a circuit and its plugged in with lots of other stuff. I wouldn't worry about it. J.H.

Just out of curiosity, does the other stuff you have plugged in with the SCII include high power components like the 7002s and receiver?
post #214 of 30951
Well my computer is plugged into the same power protector as the SCII if that helps? J.H.
post #215 of 30951
Thread Starter 
No worries guys i have plugged into a nice power/surger supressor

Yamaha RX-V1300
BP7006s
Computer (480w PSU)
Sony DVP-CX995v
Comcast Motorola 6212
27in Olevia LT27HV

I have not had dropout nor tripped the breaker.

The 7002s will go deeper but less SPL then a SCII. The more wattage is needed for lack of cabinet size. I think a pair of 7002s would be equal to if not a bit better then a SCII on its own. I absolutely love my Definitve and have been wanting a CLR2300 since picking up the BP7006's. Someday in the future with a bigger room add a SCI or SC Reference.

~Bob
post #216 of 30951
hi all,

i just bought some definitive 7004 pair supertowers. haven't yet bought an a/v receiver. will a denon, pioneer, or yamaha do the trick, and what model numer do you suggest? looking to keep cost at $1000, or less. plus anysuggestions for a universal dvd player around $200? i have a 61 inch tv with one hdmi input, one dvi input. i would prefer to use hdmi switching if possible. i have comcast digital cable/internet.

fairly new at this a/v stuff, just getting into it. any suggestions on putting together a system would be appreciated. i heard the 7004s at magnolia hifi and bought them over m&k, martinlogan, or monitor speakers [though all those sounded great too].
post #217 of 30951
Thread Starter 
IMHO Yamaha makes for a great combonation with Definitive. I would highly recommend the RX-V1600 which you can probably get froma dealer in the $1000 range. As far as good universal players take a look at the Denon DV1920 and the Samsung 950 series.

~Bob
post #218 of 30951
I second Yamaha. As far as receivers go they are the best. J.H.
post #219 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Scott Tucker View Post

The Def Tech's are bi-polar. The Klipsch surrounds are not. Also, the Def Tech's have 2 tweeters where as the Klipsch speaker has one with a horn design. They are completely different designs. The Def Tech's will afford you a more diffuse soundfield in the rear.

Scott

I just upgraded from small monopole surrounds (Athena WS15's) to the Klipsch S1's. Originally, I was going to get the Def Tech surrounds to match my mains. Since my usage is 99% movies 1% concert video and 0% multichannel music, however (and since my room is small), I find that the Klipsch's give me everything I want for half the price.
The sound is very diffuse, the aluminum tweeters blend well with the Def Techs in terms of timbre and while not as good, the Klipsch's are no slouch quality wise. I am very satisfied and happy to have saved a pretty good chunk of money.
post #220 of 30951
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Originally Posted by khellandros66 View Post

IMHO Yamaha makes for a great combonation with Definitive. I would highly recommend the RX-V1600 which you can probably get froma dealer in the $1000 range. As far as good universal players take a look at the Denon DV1920 and the Samsung 950 series.

~Bob

If you're willing to buy it used I was able to find a nice basically brand spanking new (barely barely used) Arcam AVR250 on Audiogon for a substantial discount. The Arcam AVR250 and the AVR300 are well known to be one of (if not the most) musical sounding 7 channel HT receivers out there. Many have said they come very close to matching the Arcam seperates. They cost only $1500/$2000 brand new, and compete with products in the $5000 price range in terms of sound quality.

They won't compete with the big receivers for all the fancy acronyms, and don't have auto equalizer (or any equalizer), they come more from a true audiophile heritage.

I am looking forward to hearing how it sounds with the StudioMonitor 350s. The only thing to be aware of when going for a used receiver is that many of these niche companies like Arcam don't support the warranty after the product has been transferred. Its a risk you take, however you are often saving subtantially with a used item, so the possibility of paying for a repair later is somewhat blunted by the original reduced cost. That said, Arcam is known to make very high quality electronics that do not have a reputation of failing.

Here is one review: http://www.hometheatersound.com/equi...iva_avr300.htm

In any case, enjoy your new speakers, regardless of how you chose to go with the receiver!
post #221 of 30951
The only DT product I have is a Powerfield PF 1500 subwoofer. DT got on the subwoofer bandwagon early on so this one has all the connections associated with Dolby ProLogic setups (speaker level inputs and outputs, variable high and low pass filters). Guess I've had it for about 12 years or so. It's provided me with excellent service over that time. Is that enough to get me in the DefTech club?

This is a sealed design unlike their later transmission line products. It seems to be relatively flat to 20Hz provided I use a BFD to tame some nasty peaks at 30Hz and 60Hz. Back in the day the ads for this monster said "down to 13Hz!". Well maybe at 20dB down. Typical DT advertising overkill. Why do they do that? Their speakers can stand on their own merits without all the bloated exaggeration and hyperbole they use.

I know there are substantially better subs out there now at reasonable prices compared to the $1k this baby cost back then. Funny thing: I have never, ever found a professional review of this sub anywhere. Probably has enormous quantities of THD, but I'm not in a position to test it. Anybody else just using a DefTech sub with other brands of speakers?

Greg
post #222 of 30951
thx for the feedback! I'll let you know how things turn out.

ben
post #223 of 30951
I would say your in the club. You have a DT sub for 12 years that definitely gets you in the club. J.H.
post #224 of 30951
Any help or opinions would be appreciated... I've had Bose 901's for 27yrs... love the soundstage and is why I am so drawn to Def Tech. Got their UIW94's in the ceiling for rears, CLR 2500 center, and Supercube 1 sub. Now have some money to replace the 901's... but with what?

Went to CES this year and with my SAF concerns (spouse acceptance factor) the DefTech guy said I would love the BP10b's with my sub. I have not heard them. I have heard and LOVE the (kinda big) BP7002! But would have to sell the Supercube to get those... I guess I don't need CRAZY bass... but am concerned with losing my CUBE. The 10b's would be easiest... no electric plugs, no sub to sell... but I do want to upgrade the sound for the money spent.

Your Thoughts:
1. Anyone heard BP10b w/sub vs BP7002's no/sub? What do ya think?
2. 901VI vs Def Tech sound difference
3. Any ingenious ways of hiding the power cords?

Thanks!
post #225 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Stickday View Post

Any help or opinions would be appreciated... I've had Bose 901's for 27yrs... love the soundstage and is why I am so drawn to Def Tech. Got their UIW94's in the ceiling for rears, CLR 2500 center, and Supercube 1 sub. Now have some money to replace the 901's... but with what?

Went to CES this year and with my SAF concerns (spouse acceptance factor) the DefTech guy said I would love the BP10b's with my sub. I have not heard them. I have heard and LOVE the (kinda big) BP7002! But would have to sell the Supercube to get those... I guess I don't need CRAZY bass... but am concerned with losing my CUBE. The 10b's would be easiest... no electric plugs, no sub to sell... but I do want to upgrade the sound for the money spent.

Your Thoughts:
1. Anyone heard BP10b w/sub vs BP7002's no/sub? What do ya think?
2. 901VI vs Def Tech sound difference
3. Any ingenious ways of hiding the power cords?

Thanks!

I absolutely love my BP10b's with or without a sub (they really don't need one.)
For me, the 7002's would be overkill (my room is a little less than 400 sq. ft.)
post #226 of 30951
Thread Starter 
Sharpie did you get your stuff yet?

~Bob
post #227 of 30951
Um no I would not say Def Techs share anything in common with Bose speakers. DTs are in a whole other league. Bigger better sound. A freind of mine has a Bose setup and evertime I hear it I say get me back to my Definitives now! J.H.
post #228 of 30951
What the hell is going on here? Why am I seeing that my posts are being deleted? I had a post after khellandros66's question that answered his question and also spoke to a point made by Stickday. What gives?
post #229 of 30951
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Originally Posted by J.H. View Post

Um no I would not say Def Techs share anything in common with Bose speakers. DTs are in a whole other league. Bigger better sound. A freind of mine has a Bose setup and evertime I hear it I say get me back to my Definitives now! J.H.

Def Tech bipolars have a mix of direct and reflected excellent sound. Bose have a mix of direct and reflected crappy sound. That is all they have in common

(Sorry if this is a repeat post. I think it got deleted before, but it might still be here someplace.)
post #230 of 30951
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Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

Def Tech bipolars have a mix of direct and reflected excellent sound. Bose have a mix of direct and reflected crappy sound. That is all they have in common

(Sorry if this is a repeat post. I think it got deleted before, but it might still be here someplace.)

Yeah it got deleted. Question is was that an accident due to the database, or intentional due to an admin?
post #231 of 30951
Reposted: khellandros66, not yet, unfortunately there was a setback in delivery. Very sadly the man who owned the dealership passed away a few days ago. Naturally his family and his business associates have been busy tending to this sad tragedy. I have no problem waiting, these are the times when you really have to put things into perspective. Speakers, not a big deal.

I am still looking forward to them of course, but I feel terrible for his family and friends. I believe I will be getting them tomorrow night. Unfortunately my custom speaker cable won't arrive until Friday. I promise I'll post my initial thoughts as soon as I can.

Stickday, no offense to you or Bose, but I am curious as to why you are suggesting the DefTechs are attractive to you because of your Bose experiences? Around here that is not the most flattering thing to say. I have 10 Bose speakers in my car and all I can say is that I hope there are no similarities between my DefTechs and Bose. At least there weren't any when I auditioned them and I've never heard anyone put DefTech and Bose in the same sentence in the several years that I've been following audio and video.

Pulliamm, also I think there are a number of companies that have used various psychoacoustic tricks that evoke similiarities to bipolar, DefTech is just one.
post #232 of 30951
Hi all,

I bought my first pair of Def Tech over 8 years ago and i just love them. Here is my setup....


Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi
NAD T534 DVD
Toshiba 62MX195
Definitive BP2000TL
Definitive CLR2500 (Center)
Definitive BPVX (Surround L/R)
Bose 301 (Surround Back)
Definitive Supercube Ref. Subwoofer


My next upgrade will be a pair of BPVX for surround back and i'm thinking Parasound for external amp. I will post a picture soon!!

Cheers all,
Michel
post #233 of 30951
I am now the proud owner of a CLR 2002 center channel and 2x BP2Xs for my rear surround. In may I'll probably be looking at purchasing the 7004 towers. These speakers are just unreal and I enjoy my set up thoroughly.

Now i have a question. Is there a Speaker Stand that fits the BP2Xs?? I was thinking about making some to match the color wood that is in the living room.

Thanks for your time,

tlinks
post #234 of 30951
Here is what I have:

Denon AVR-3806 powering:

L/R: Def Tech. BP 7004
C: Pro Center C2
S/W: ProSub 100

As for the rears, I cant remember the model number, or find the speakers on the Def Tech website, but they look like ProCinema's...


absolutely love them...
post #235 of 30951
I'm powering my setup with a Denon AVR-3806 as well.....

F/R Def Tech BP-10 (vintage....probably 10 years old!)
Center Def Tech C/L/R 2500
Rears Def Tech UIW BP/A
Sub Supernova MKIV-12

Love the Def Tech's!
clarker
post #236 of 30951
Any opinions on the Pro 60 sub?
post #237 of 30951
bp2006tl mains
clr2300 center
bp1.2x surrounds

best part? the 5 speaker set cost me just $900! 'used', but like new. powered by rx-v2600. fills 16'x30' theatre effortlessly and sounds great for movies. not quite up to the musical standard set by my 2-channel rig however.

currently shopping for bp2x as replacement surrounds, bp1.2x will become rear surrounds. also shopping for sub, expecting a hsu.

$0.02,
post #238 of 30951
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Originally Posted by dookie1 View Post

bp2006tl mains
clr2300 center
bp1.2x surrounds

best part? the 5 speaker set cost me just $900! 'used', but like new. powered by rx-v2600. fills 16'x30' theatre effortlessly and sounds great for movies. not quite up to the musical standard set by my 2-channel rig however.

currently shopping for bp2x as replacement surrounds, bp1.2x will become rear surrounds. also shopping for sub, expecting a hsu.

$0.02,

What is your 2 channel rig?
post #239 of 30951
Thread Starter 
I am hoping that by the end of May to get a CLR2300.

BTW guys/gals that haven't yet, lets get some photo's up and keep up the support, this thread is gettimg strong.

~Bob
post #240 of 30951
Hi all, New guy here!
Nice to read you thoughts and experiences.

Im thinking about putting a system together using;
Denon 4300 or Yamaha 2600 or Denon 3806 ?

Mythos Ones for fronts,

Mythos Three or C2 or ? for center,

Maybe Mythos Gems for rears and backs (2 ea,)
Will Gems work well on the ceiling?(for two side surrounds?)

SC III for SW ?

I plan on listening to music and HT use equally.(384 sq. ft. carpeted room with 8 ft. ceiling)
I value your combined knowledge and wisdom!

Where might I find the best deals on DT equipment?
Thanks in advance for helping out a Newbie,
Nelson G.
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