Definitive Owners Thread - Page 766

Well overkill was not the word I was really looking for. I actually want to know if it will make my speakers sound better. I frequently listen to sacds at a very high volume -3 on my marantz 6003. I can hear the speakers start to distort would adding separates allow me to go louder.

Oh man, you are so lucky. I own a pair of the BPVX/P and I love them. I wish I could find another pair to complete my 7.1 system.
Anyone has a pair in black they would like to sell?

I came across a set another state thru Craigslist but the seller does not want to deal with shipping Sucks

Very lucky they were listed as bpx so a pleasant surprise when they arrived. Also I didn't pay a dime for shipping.

I do not know specifically about the Emotiva playing louder that your Marantz. I suppose in theory it should. I had a Onkyo reciever rated at 110wpc and now have a 2 channel Mcintosh rated at 250 and a 5 channel Rotel rated at 200 wpc. Wpc is a spec that can be misleading. I will say that my system playes much cleaner at the same db level than my receiver could. I never go past -5 on my volume control, it's just too loud.

Well cleaner is better. If I can accomplish a cleaner sound at that volume I will be happy. I want to feel like the front row of a rush show, with audiophile quality

I have the CLR 2500 and initially I had it on top shelf with my TV.
However, it was just a bit tall that it would cover some of the bottom part of the TV, except of course when I would watch a widescreen bluray.
Anyway, I moved it down to the middle shelf and all I have to do is open both doors whenever I am ready to watch a movie.
Although it has a subwoofer I doubt it will sound or produce the same bass as those found in towers - unless it's used as FRONT L/R speakers . Being that is the center channel you will hear dialogue mostly. I never heard mine rattle or shake shelf off

I also got bp7002 for 1,200 even, free shipping. I saw some 7000 on here for sale anyone want mine haha

Same guy was selling a CLR 3000...maybe it's sold since I dont see it anymore.
From what I read the CLR 2500 matches the BP7002s. However, I don't see why a CLR 3000 wouldn't work well with BP7002s.
I wonder if he still has it

I have that combo the 3000 is amazing really brings out the bass tones in voices especially in transformers (optimus)

I wasn't in the front row but had very good seats Friday. They are amazing live. They recorded the show I was at, can't wait till it comes out.

I agree had been to a couple shows very tight sounding. Just bought the bluray audio moving pictures also amazing

I've got a CLR2300. Would it be beneficial to upgrade to a CLR2500 or to a CLR3000 or just keep what I've got. My mains are the bp2002 TL. All speakers are calibrated but I have to add to center over calibration and drop sub volume during movies. Suggestions?

i would get a clr3000 (or used clr2000 clr1000b)

my 2nd choices would be clr2500 or clr2002

Well I know the 2500 and the 3000 have built in subs what about the others?

the clr2000 1000b & 2002 do not have built in subs

i own all 3 larger centers (clr 3000 2000 & 1000b). these all use the 6 1/2" mid-range drivers

the built in "sub" in the 3000 doesn't seem to add much over the 2000 & 1000b (but there are others who might disagree)

i'm not sure about going from the clr2002 to the clr2500 maybe someone else can chime in who has had experience with both

I think the sub in the 3000 subtracted a few hundred $ from my checking account....

I'm with otk, going from a 2300 to 2500, basically just gaining the 5.25 mids wouldn't be my choice.

I would first go for the jump direct to the CLR3000, second would be a CLR2000 then the 1000b. The 1000b would be identical performance wise to the 2000 not to mention typically cheaper. I would just prefer the cosmetics of the CLR2000 etc.

Like otk, I own both a 3000 and 2000. Both sound great yet I do prefer the overall performance of the 3000. It's not an "in your face" difference yet just more dynamic/capable (JMHO )
The CLR 2500 is also a great center and I have read reviews where folks swapped CLR2000s for the 2500 and were very happy. Most rave about the addition of the sub/powered driver. But, add the powered sub/driver to the 6.5 inch mids found in the 2000/1000b, IE: CLR3000, and you have the most capable center I have listened to for the money.

I don't have any personal experience between the three, but from what others have stated, the difference between the 3000 and a 2002/2300 is near night and day.

Cheers

Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I was thinking the 3000 because of what I've read on here. I seems to be the favorite of the center speakers. I know its very expensive and will probably cost more than my other speakers combined. But you'll pay for quality. What is a good price for the 3000?

A typical good used/referbished CLR3000: $450 to $695.

I snagged mine used/locally for $420. Was 2 yrs old and perfect. If in good shape and local anything around $500 is typical.

There is one on eBay right now, current bid is $455.

Good luck

Thanks

Anybody need or want an awesome CLR2300?

Great post, thank you. Hopefully I don't bid against anyone here.

Going back to my 7002s, I'm driving four of them and I'm just curious at what level other 7002 owners set their low gain? I typically leave mine around 12 o'clock, but I find that I have to dial it back a little at reference... Is this normal?

I'm shopping for a pair of BP-8040. Haven't seen any "deals." Looks like pricing is pretty controlled. Any suggestions?

TIA

Jim

What about a pair of these for under $200?
http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Tec...3246194&sr=8-4

Larger woofers, just the previous model. I bought a pair of very gently used BP2x speakers for $228 at Ebay.

http://www.definitivetech.com/produc...productid=BP2X

Even larger woofers and a bigger cabinet. Watch for deals.

Hello fellow DT owners,

I currently have 2 disappearing in wall bi polar speakers as my only 2 surrounds. Coming from a 7.1 setup in townhouse this felt like a downgrade to have only 2 surrounds but they are way better then the low end pro cinema speakers I had in the 7.1 setup and the bipolar seems to spread the sound decently. I did the in walls because it is a square high ceiling family room with no low back wall as its open to the kitchen. The wires were already sticking out of the wall so I just made use of them in back and 2 high front right and left also DI.

If anyone has any idea how I can a 3rd center placed surround or maybe side surrounds up on the upstairs balcony side wall or above fireplsce area side wall in between windows but I think thst would be crazy wiring through walls and not going to happen. So im probably stuck with the 2 rear DI bipolar in walls for my surrounds (at least until there is some type of wireless solution) and to be honest the DI bp's have been very sufficient and even impressed the pro audio boutique installers snd guests alike.

Up front I have as I mentioned the high front right and left DI placed whereplrevious owner had speaker wires in place. Then what I did to make up for only 2 surrounds, I added 2 floor standing BP6 low front right and left and my Integra receiver can handle 4 front right and left speakers. That has worked out because the high in wall front and left wouldnt have been enough and are actually louder in the upstairs hallway which is open to the family room (which sucks at night or anytime someone is trying to sleep upstairs while others are watching tv in fam room ie. Me at night while wife and kids sleep or them watching in morning while im still sleeping snd they get revenge by blasting spongebob, lol).

Anyway, the main issue at hand is I am upgrading the low front right and left BP6's. Tv is 65" and on a wide BDI (my fav) tv stand. Coming from a 67" dlp, i couldnt bare wall mounting the 65" which would set it back a few feet making it seem even smaller. But I do plan to get an upcoming 70" tv and wall mount it.

So I am thinking of clearing the floor space the BP6's tske up and wall mounting some mythos xtr's. Thought 50's at first but considering a 70" flat panel tv, should I really be going with the xtr60's?

I know the measurements of the 70" tv so could place the mythos xtr's accordingly. Is that going to be weird though with them wall mounted back behind the tv on the stand? I guess it will have to do until I get the new tv. Im going to check the prices of the mytois xtr 50's and the 60's.

Will I miss the bipolar feature of the bp6's or are mythos xtr 50 or 60's going to blow them away? I guess i dont really need the bp feature up front anyway with high front R & L plus a center channel and the room isnt so wide thst i need L & R spreading BIpolar but rather that the sound gets lost to the high ceiling and room being open on the one side and back with the only low walls being the front and left side. So the mythos xtr 50 or 60's are really going to project the sound forward into the room even if wall mounted they are a little higher set then the floor standing BP6's.

Speaking of center channel, I have what Im pretty sure is the mythos 7 ( the cheapest mythos center). Dialog is often not loud enough with all the other 6 speakers and sub being so loud i have to turn volume down (like at night when watching war shows and it sounds like planes are flying through the upstsirs hallway) and then center channel dialog is low. I have turned the center channel up a few times.
It is in a center channel drawer with the cover of the speaker off as the drawer has speaker fabric. Couldnt do it now behind current tabletop tv but could possibly wall mount the center channel speaker under nee wall mounted tv when I do thst. But for now would put it in the center drawer so need whatever I get to fit in there, though its a fairly wide drawer. So what center chsnnel should i get to go with the xtr 50 or 60's?

The video on deftech site for the mythos xtr series speakers shows an example of xtr 50's for L & R and an xtr 60 as the center. Mahbe i could do that? And If i go with the 60's on left snd right, sounds like id have to go with the 60 for center as it seems like you want the center to be the same or larger at least according to their example setup.

Just noticed that the mythos xtr's come with a floor stand so that could work for now until i get the new tv and wall mount it along with the xtr's.

So besides bajawaverunner, where else can i find 3 xtr 60's for a non wallet busting price? Being a 65 and later 70" tv I feel I do need to go with the xtr 60's as It says they are for 55" and larger tv's. But although I am complaining that dialog from center channel in current setup is kind of low, maybe I can get away with the xtr 50 as a center?

Tempted to get the mythos xtr bp20 surrounds to replace the Disappewring in wall bp surrounds i have but not worth it as it will be a visual downgrade going from white in wall to black on wall.

Need to do this low front and leff plus center channel upgrade somewhat soon before new tv as a fam member needs LCR's (my bp6's and mythos 7 (i think) center) so its a good excuse to upgrade.

Do the mythos xtr 50 or 60's sound like a good upgrade for my setup from bp6 snd myth7 center? With 70" tv should I really be leaning towards the 60's? which still probanly wont be the full height of the tv. But then you have to remember I have the high front L & R DI speskers so maybe I can get away with the xtr 50's as they wont be my onky front L & R. Then just do the xtr 60 as the center.

What center channel would be an upgrade to the mythos 7 (the cheapest mythos center), the mytnos 3? Or just get snother mythos xtr? Maybe the 40 or 50 is fine for a center? Which will fit in the center channel drawer and can also be wall mounted later. I guess with xtr L &R i need an xtr center a d should stick to the. 50's and 60's not the xtr 40. Though DT site mythos xtr video shows xtr 50 L & R's and a 60 center, I am leaning towards the opposite or all 3 60's maybe? Although with the high front R & L DI's maybe I dont need 60's for the ,ow front L & R amd can get away with the 50's and then a 60 for the center since im really looking to increase dialog from that (as long as it fits in the bdi stsnd center chsn drawe until new tv and wall mount.

Also, the fam member needs a sub so I was thinking of giving up my Energy brand suer mini sub which packs a punch and I love it. Had a deftech supercube first but it was bigger and had the infamous buzzing glitch so it went bwck and I didnt bother trying a DT sub again. I may just see if there is a new version of the Energy mini sub I have.


Edit: doesnt look like bajawaverunner has any mythos xtr-60's on ebay? Can get them new though (just not authorized seller so warranty) for a price lower then msrp. I realize a tv is wider then itis high so i guess they use xtr 50's for the L&R on a tv 50" or so but 55" or larger (loke my 65" snd future 70") def needsthe xtr 60's on all 3 sides for it to come close to the size of a 70". Ugh, big expense for 3 of those though...but i guess the point of doing it is to not have to upgrade for a long time if ever again, lol.

Edit 2:
Looks like the xtr60 on sta d are only 35" so thats only as high as my bp6's. Just wont be able to use the xtr 60 as a stand for the universal remote chsrging docl loke I do now with the bp 6.
32" without stand and that will fit in the center channel drawer.

Maybe I'll get one xtr60 soon, for now to try out as a center.

^^^^^
Quite the post above,

I'm thinking some form of a depiction of your room/space/wall area might be helpful for folks to assist in your questions.

I wouldn't jump into buying or getting your mind set on one speaker line-anything specific just yet without really thinking through your options and future display desires.

Is this a house or apartment / rent or own?

What is a good price to pay for a pair of Bp2000's?

I've seen a range between $650 and $1100 in the past year.

Most however in good to excellent cosmetic condition, as well as 100% function fall right at the $800 plus or minus $50 price tag.

Verify BP2000's and not BP2000TL's? The TL's are a bit newer thus can go for more.


Cheers

I am still searching for BP2000's here in NC.
I went to look at some BP3000's, and they had too many bad places for me.
Right now I have a pair of BP3000's and and a C/L/R 3000.
If I do not find a good set of BP2000's in the next few weeks, I will order a pair of BP10B's for the rear and be done with speaker shopping for a while. I may pick up some BP2000's for a future 7.1

I am running the auto Audyssey setup on my Denon AVR 4310 with BP2000's Mains (amp turned off in one speaker because it needs repairing), CLR 3000 center, BP2004tl front wides, BPX's surround A and BPX's surround B. couple of things keep happening: first I get out of phase for front wides and center (pretty sure they are in phase); second it sets my fronts to 110hz xover which is fine since I have the amp turned off, but it is setting the clr3000 at 110hz xover as well which doesn't seem right.

Someone on Columbia SC has a pair on craigslist. Depending on where u live at in NC if u want to drive that far.