Definitive Owners Thread - Page 789

Originally Posted by Panayotis Melas

Thanks a lot, Jim. This is really a valuable information.
How about my second question: timbre matching with the older Mirages. Does anyone have opinion about it?
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Originally Posted by Tarheel72

Thanks everyone for your comments. I did decide to pass on the BP1.2X for the reasons stated. I have decided to buy a pair of BP2X from an AVS member and hopefully they will work out fine. If they do I will have a nice mint condition pair of white Promonitor 100's with mounting hardware for sale soon. Now I need to keep an eye out for a pair of SM450's and a CLR3000. Hint Hint

Originally Posted by Shadow Jack

I recently added a second Trinity to my system of 8080 towers, 8080 center and four 8080 surrounds. I must say the addition of the second Trinity adds even more than I thought it would. Bass is smoother, fuller, thicker and more present. I am EQing them with the SVS EQ1 and driving the system with a Denon 3808, with the front three channels being driven by Outlaw monoblock amps.

Hopefully this will at least be a short-term cure for my upgrade-itis. Audyssey DSX with 11 channels, you say? Hmm...

Originally Posted by Shadow Jack

Hopefully this will at least be a short-term cure for my upgrade-itis. Audyssey DSX with 11 channels, you say? Hmm...

Originally Posted by otk

which channels ?

some say the front 3 channels should be identical or at least the tweeter and mids should all be identical across the front sound stage

some say it should be that way for every channel and some say the rears are not that important

if you're looking for the most seamless coherent panning of sound from channel to channel, especially for multi-channel music, try to stay identical or as close to identical as possible

but this will all come down to personal taste. there are lots of people who are perfectly happy with mixing different types of speakers front and back or center/mains etc.

it all comes down to personal taste

Originally Posted by Shadow Jack

I recently added a second Trinity to my system of 8080 towers, 8080 center and four 8080 surrounds. I must say the addition of the second Trinity adds even more than I thought it would. Bass is smoother, fuller, thicker and more present. I am EQing them with the SVS EQ1 and driving the system with a Denon 3808, with the front three channels being driven by Outlaw monoblock amps.

Hopefully this will at least be a short-term cure for my upgrade-itis. Audyssey DSX with 11 channels, you say? Hmm...

Originally Posted by otk

wow, awesome !!!

got any pics ?

Originally Posted by otk

awesome pics thanks !!!!!!!!!!

those trinity's are huge

is that the 2nd trinity in the back with a lamp on it ?

a near-field trinity must be insane

have you experimented with different locations ?

Originally Posted by Shadow Jack

With the furniture in the room, the room layout, the weight of the Trinities and the WAF, I was pretty limited. But the SVS EQ1 sure helps smooth things out.

Originally Posted by badgerpilot

Nice Pics! I am amazed that you were allowed one Trinity let alone 2 That has to be some awesome sound!

Originally Posted by Shadow Jack

Yeah my wife is amazingly understanding (to a point). Plus, she hates chick filcks and is crazy about action movies.

Originally Posted by blountsteeler

Bit of a newbie. Have had a nice plug and play bose system for a long time.

Due to the size of the cave I have archived the Bose AM15 and dusted off the BP 20's. I am likely picking up an Epik or Hsu Sub for about a grand. I have heard that the def tech specs are not always accurate.

So....does anyone know what the bass goes down to with the BP20's. Also, my biggest question is if anyone can recommend a crossover.

Cave is about 10,000 cubic feet.

Originally Posted by Shadow Jack

I recently added a second Trinity to my system of 8080 towers, 8080 center and four 8080 surrounds. I must say the addition of the second Trinity adds even more than I thought it would. Bass is smoother, fuller, thicker and more present. I am EQing them with the SVS EQ1 and driving the system with a Denon 3808, with the front three channels being driven by Outlaw monoblock amps.

Hopefully this will at least be a short-term cure for my upgrade-itis. Audyssey DSX with 11 channels, you say? Hmm...

Originally Posted by blountsteeler

Bit of a newbie. Have had a nice plug and play bose system for a long time.

Due to the size of the cave I have archived the Bose AM15 and dusted off the BP 20's. I am likely picking up an Epik or Hsu Sub for about a grand. I have heard that the def tech specs are not always accurate.

So....does anyone know what the bass goes down to with the BP20's. Also, my biggest question is if anyone can recommend a crossover.

Cave is about 10,000 cubic feet.

Originally Posted by KJSmitty

"Subs in centers are not what they are hyped up to be."

Total misconception here...

Having a "sub" dedicated/placed with the center speaker has nothing to do with better LFE. THE BEST CENTER speaker would be to have three, FULL RANGE "main" speakers across the front. And I mean full range not something that just gets it done to 80 or 100Hz.

Typically center channel speakers are limited due to size constraints. The 3000 was a successful attempt to make a center speaker with full range performance yet keep it to a "smaller" size... But most would agree there isn't much "small" about a 3000 nor does it fit in any cabinets etc..

Those of us that have either upgraded to the 3000 or added/incorporated a dedicated small sub to the center channel/area have realized the performance gains. The center channel is one of the most dynamic of all channels and having a single or multiple speaker configuration that can fully emulate-create those dynamics is key. There is no hype to that at all.

IMHO Martycool, Given the specs of the 1000 I think if you had it in the center with your CLR2000 sitting right on top you couldn't go wrong. The key is having both the 1000 and 2000 centrally located due to much of what you want out of the larger driver is the 40-140Hz range. The CLR may touch on the mid to upper portion of that Hz yet not with the dynamics/authority of the larger driver etc. If not collocated it will be distracting for the center dialog/focus etc.

If the CLR2000 and PS1000 had to be separated I would not go that route. This was my issue, Center speaker below a large projector/screen and not enough space to stack them. Obviously having a single box was desirable for me as well and finding the 3000 at the $$ I did made it a no brainer.

So, do you have the space to center them both?


Cheers

Originally Posted by baddgsx

well said! moving from the clr2500 to 3000 i noticed more in deep vocals. for example , optimus prime's voice in transformers. definitely stood out more.

Originally Posted by otk

and don't forget Brett Somers in Match Game 75

Originally Posted by SteveK2

Definitely showing your age with that comment...LOL.

Originally Posted by riverst

Subs in centers are not what they are hyped up to be. I would save for a bigger sub and keep the CLR center.

Originally Posted by Felton007

Good morning all. I'm planning to add a pair of Prosub 600's to my side surrounds (BPVX's) to achieve a fuller range. Any thoughts?