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post #24181 of 30934
Oh I got an answer from Chet, when I emailed info@definitive

The easiest way to tell between the ProSub 100 and 100TL is the low level LFE input. The 100 didn't have that (only had L/R RCA inputs). The 100TL has L/R & LFE as well.

I also found some .pdf review online (think it was an Australian publication) that showed the 100 had a 125W-rated amplifier, while the 100TL has a 250W amp in it.

The one I bought has the LFE on it so it looks like it's a 100TL

Also for more info on the older ProCinema series (including the 100TL and 200TL), see this marketing sheet from Definitive:
www.abt.com/documents/4552/procinema.pdf
post #24182 of 30934
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Originally Posted by ES_Revenge View Post

Oh I got an answer from Chet, when I emailed info@definitive

The easiest way to tell between the ProSub 100 and 100TL is the low level LFE input. The 100 didn't have that (only had L/R RCA inputs). The 100TL has L/R & LFE as well.

I also found some .pdf review online (think it was an Australian publication) that showed the 100 had a 125W-rated amplifier, while the 100TL has a 250W amp in it.

The one I bought has the LFE on it so it looks like it's a 100TL

Also for more info on the older ProCinema series (including the 100TL and 200TL), see this marketing sheet from Definitive:
www.abt.com/documents/4552/procinema.pdf

ok. good to know. thanks for the info

i wonder if they are "transmission line" loaded which is what TL stands for
post #24183 of 30934
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

oh look at that. what are the differences in the specs between pro subs and pro "TL" subs ?

Apparently, there aren't any except for this:

These Subwoofers require a 240 volt power source.
post #24184 of 30934
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Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post

Apparently, there aren't any except for this:

These Subwoofers require a 240 volt power source.

Those are just the ones on eBay from bajawaverunner, those were originally meant for Euro market or whatever. There were indeed 120V versions for America.
post #24185 of 30934
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Originally Posted by ES_Revenge View Post
Those are just the ones on eBay from bajawaverunner, those were originally meant for Euro market or whatever. There were indeed 120V versions for America.

240v,,,,, who cares...

Just plug them into the 120 socket.. It just cuts the amps rated power by 50%.......

Also,, otk's wrong... "TL" stands for: Tremendous Lows!


OK, just kidding.... Need to hydrate more in this TX heat....
post #24186 of 30934
Just saw this ad on Dallas/Ft Worth CL I think we need to do an intervention! Take a look at what he chose over Def Tech!
post #24187 of 30934
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot
Just saw this ad on Dallas/Ft Worth CL I think we need to do an intervention! Take a look at what he chose over Def Tech!
I hate to say yet he probably won't get any takers at that price.... New or not considering there are two other used pairs of BPXs between Dallas and OCity for much much less.. And I'm guessing he found a bigger pair of Bose speakers for much less that he thinks will trump the DTs. He may very well be happy with the Bose for the price - and we can only hope he paid very little for them.

Then again, maybe he's a DT forum member and the Bose reference is purely to cause the rest of us to have nightmares!!

:-)
post #24188 of 30934
One can only hope that he is kidding about Bose! And yes, the price is way out of line, yikes!
post #24189 of 30934
saw a trinity the other day on audiogon for 1349.00...
post #24190 of 30934
Wow. Fail.
post #24191 of 30934
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

240v,,,,, who cares...

Just plug them into the 120 socket.. It just cuts the amps rated power by 50%

LOL. Or you could just get a step-up converter; or, if possible, split off from your dryer/stove outlet...

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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post

Just saw this ad on Dallas/Ft Worth CL I think we need to do an intervention! Take a look at what he chose over Def Tech!

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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

I hate to say yet he probably won't get any takers at that price....

Yeah that ad has "seller has crack addiction" written all over it :lol:
post #24192 of 30934
I know this is in the thread somewhere but couldn't pick it up using search ... Is anyone here using (or ever tried) a tower as a center? Was curious if it could work with three 7001's across the front replacing the 3000 with the additional tower?
post #24193 of 30934
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Originally Posted by badgerpilot View Post

One can only hope that he is kidding about Bose! And yes, the price is way out of line, yikes!

i think it's more like he put them on the walls and his wife said get those the F out of here and get those cubes we saw at sears



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Originally Posted by lefthandluke View Post

saw a trinity the other day on audiogon for 1349.00...

nice. below cost

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Originally Posted by kjenkins View Post

I know this is in the thread somewhere but couldn't pick it up using search ... Is anyone here using (or ever tried) a tower as a center? Was curious if it could work with three 7001's across the front replacing the 3000 with the additional tower?

i have 5 bp2000s & 2 bp30s. for a while i used 3 bp2000s across the front and the sound was amazing. it was the best center i have ever heard but i couldn't keep it that was because it just wasn't practical for my room. maybe i'll put it back though

i had it laying horizontal on the floor aimed up toward the LP
post #24194 of 30934
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Originally Posted by kjenkins View Post

I know this is in the thread somewhere but couldn't pick it up using search ... Is anyone here using (or ever tried) a tower as a center? Was curious if it could work with three 7001's across the front replacing the 3000 with the additional tower?

its a great idea for the audio side and people on here have done it before. However on the video side it will make your video display sit too high breaking your neck!!
post #24195 of 30934
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Originally Posted by kjenkins View Post

I know this is in the thread somewhere but couldn't pick it up using search ... Is anyone here using (or ever tried) a tower as a center? Was curious if it could work with three 7001's across the front replacing the 3000 with the additional tower?

I've seen many a theater builds with three "main" speakers/towers across the front. All utilized a false wall with a large Acoustically Transparent PJ screen with the center tower speaker behind etc.

Definitely works if you have the configuration to pull it off..

Cheers
post #24196 of 30934
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

I've seen many a theater builds with three "main" speakers/towers across the front. All utilized a false wall with a large Acoustically Transparent PJ screen with the center tower speaker behind etc.

Definitely works if you have the configuration to pull it off..

Cheers

yup, that's the way to do it

it doesn't get any better than having 3 identical speakers behind an acoustically transparent screen

but if that's not possible, i had incredible results with just laying one horizontal on the floor aimed up

on the DTS DVD the eagles, hell freezes over, i could never get the center channel to sound right on certain songs but when i used one of my bp2000s as a center it sounded awesome

uses the same drivers at the clr3000 but something was different. maybe having sealed mids seamlessly blended to a sealed sub but who knows

the clr3000 has sealed mids but a ported sub section

the added extension could have helped also
post #24197 of 30934
wondering why def tech didnt opt for a bipolar center? a bipolar clr3000?
post #24198 of 30934
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

wondering why def tech didnt opt for a bipolar center? a bipolar clr3000?

wouldn't be "cabinet friendly"
post #24199 of 30934
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

wondering why def tech didnt opt for a bipolar center? a bipolar clr3000?

I think I read (don't remember where) that a bipolar cc would place the dialogue too far off to the sides of the center of the screen, that it needs to be more focused.
post #24200 of 30934
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

I think I read (don't remember where) that a bipolar cc would place the dialogue too far off to the sides of the center of the screen, that it needs to be more focused.

if thats true, than placing a bipolar tower as a center isnt good.
post #24201 of 30934
sounded good to me

sounded better than my clr 3000 clr 2000 clr 1000b and sm350
post #24202 of 30934
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

sounded good to me

sounded better than my clr 3000 clr 2000 clr 1000b and sm350

I'll bet it did. I like your idea of placing it horizontol on the floor, tilted up. That probably cut down on the bipolar effect
post #24203 of 30934
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

I'll bet it did. I like your idea of placing it horizontol on the floor, tilted up. That probably cut down on the bipolar effect

yeah the rear array was pretty much firing down toward the carpet
post #24204 of 30934
http://ecoustics.com/electronics/pro...ew/688637.html
SM-65 almost looks like a replacement for the PowerMonitor 700, minus the powered woofer of course.
post #24205 of 30934
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Originally Posted by tomrowe125 View Post

http://ecoustics.com/electronics/pro...ew/688637.html
SM-65 almost looks like a replacement for the PowerMonitor 700, minus the powered woofer of course.

i really like the new look. is that a plastic shell or mdf box design? its hard to tell. that sucks no subs or 6 1/2's
post #24206 of 30934
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i really like the new look. is that a plastic shell or mdf box design? its hard to tell. that sucks no subs or 6 1/2's

SM55 contains a 6 1/2.
post #24207 of 30934
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

i really like the new look. is that a plastic shell or mdf box design? its hard to tell.

It looks like a combination of MDF with either PolyStone or some other sort of hard plastic baffle.

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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

that sucks no subs or 6 1/2's

The SM55 uses a 6 1/2" driver. Unless, you are looking for a D’Appolito array design.

What I'd like to know is where is a center channel design? I can't see them marketing these to just the two-channel crowd.
I guess, anyone can use any of the models. Especially, the SM65 (horizontally).
post #24208 of 30934
I have a dumb question.

Do the 8000 series bipolar speakers come in a left and right? I thought that the 7000 series did come that way.

Thanks
post #24209 of 30934
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Originally Posted by shatter71 View Post

I have a dumb question.

Do the 8000 series bipolar speakers come in a left and right? I thought that the 7000 series did come that way.

Thanks

I don't own any of the 8 series yet remember reading somewhere that there was not a left and right speaker. IE - both look and are configured driver wise - identically..
post #24210 of 30934
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

I don't own any of the 8 series yet remember reading somewhere that there was not a left and right speaker. IE - both look and are configured driver wise - identically..

Yes this is correct....I own 2 8060-St towers and there is no left or right there all the same....:-) ....sound is amazing though I love mine
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