Definitive Owners Thread - Page 887

that's cool. thanks for the info

I used to have butt kickers, they literally rocked. I can't mount them on my theater seats, no room. That's why 2 of my subs flank my seats. They don't have quite the same effect but pretty close. I need to check into subdudes. I get some nasty rattles in my room at times.

Thanks James. It can never be too much!

We are not to say...

Only you can tell yourself it's what you want/need.. :-)

James, I forgot to ask why you don't have the CLR3000 also hooked up to the XPA5, just curious and still envious! You guys with room for towers all the way around are very fortunate! Since my set up is in the living room, I'm already pushing it with the WAF with 7001's and 2 stand alone subs.

I have the CLR3000 and my rear surrounds to the receiver because when were just watching normal tv,news or something we just listen to them so I dont have to turn on the Emotiva which powers the fronts and surrounds

Figured there had to be a reason. That makes sense. Thanks.

I had a similar setup to yours (only BP1x in the rears). I would STRONGLY recommend getting BPVX's for the rears before they all sell out unless you are set on direct radiating speakers for the rear. That one change to my setup made a world of difference.

Also, FYI if you are using Audyssey they recommend first adding wides, then heights, then rears. So if you can only do one - it is better to start with the wides unless room constraints totally prevent it.

Can any of you folks tell me what are the current going prices for the BP-2000's and the BP-3000TL's? Also, what kind of cash do you think it would cost to ship a pair of these from, say. Cali, or New York, to the Midwest? Would FedEx ground be the best choice, price wise?

BP2000s: Lately, prices in my area have been between $800 - $1100

BP3000s: Typically you see them for as little as $1200 up to $1800. Currently two pairs for sale in TX. Both pairs priced with three other speakers as a set.

$3300 - high yet not hideous for:
BP3000s
CLR3000
BPVXs
So given the known average prices for the CLR and BPVXs he's asking approx $1800-$2000 for the BP3000s. If his price was near $2500 for all I would probably call... :-)

$6000 - plain crazy high / literally retail pricing for....:
BP3000s
CLR2000
BPXs

As for shipping, considering your talking between 120-160 pounds each I would think near $100 per etc. Not sure on the carrier.

Just a data point for ya...

Good luck

I paid $875 for a mint pair of 2000tls a few months ago (my current mains). I have seen 2000s (non-tls) come and go between 800 and 1000 on local Craigslist.

There is a guy in union, NJ trying to sell a 6th ave demo pair of 3000tls for $1800 since February and he didn't want to negotiate when I called him back then.

I drove 450 miles to pick up my set of BP3000TL's that were on craigslist for 1300 but paid $1000 . Socks were a little rough from his cat but sound fantastic.
Anyone know where to get a set of black socks for BP3000TL's Def Tech or Baja does have any black only white. So im thinking maybe a fabric store like Joans fabric or Hobby Lobby will have the material and just have someone thats sews make a set.

What's the measurements? I can see if it's close to my BP7000SC's which socks are available on ebay.

Speaker measure 55'' tall 9'' wide and 19.5 inches in depth but actually just measured a set that I bought white in color from baja there 61'' tall that were supposedly able to dye but not successful. I even bought dye from a company that makes dye for nylon where you actually cook the sock on stove but no luck. Double knit nylon is very hard to dye...........dont buy white thinking you could dye them...lol

I think the BP7000SC has a 14'' sub right so the sock is probably smaller and I dont think there as tall as the BP3000

Several Internet sites sell black acoustic transparent speaker material etc. Should be easy to come by the material - then just have someone sew you a few "tubes". I actually sewed a few myself when making matching stands for my previous BP10b rears (filled with sand) and for my angled CLR base.

PS - $1000 for BP3000s is a great price. :-)

Cheers

Wow those are much deeper, my BP7000SC's are 52 1/2" x 9" x 16 1/2"

bp-3000TLs are huge. i believe they are the tallest and deepest def tech tower

i remember taking those beasts out of the box when our store got our first pair of them

I drove ~260 miles round trip for the 2000tls (we met in the middle), 160 miles round trip for the CLR-3000 (paid $450 and in excellent condition) and 150 miles for BPVXs ($660 for a demo pair from BB in DE).

We are crazy, aren't we?

I have a chance to purchase a pair of BP-10b's from a local guy for a decent price. I am thinking about purchasing them to use as either side surrounds, or rear surrounds. Which do you guys think I would get the most benefit from? My current set-up is; BP-30's (L,R) C/L/R-2000 (C) and BP1.2x (side surrounds), AV-123 MFW-15 sub.

I am leaning towards using the BP-10b's as side surrounds because they have 6.5 inch drivers that would match my front 3. Unfortunately, I just can not afford a pair of BPVX'S at this point in time due mostly to health issues and other projects, so I was thinking that a pair of BP-10b's would be my next best option, maybe even better than the BPVX's for side surround duty. What do you guys think? Currently I have BP-1.2x's in the side surround position.

As my last post was asking, what would be the ideal speaker to use in the surround rear positions? Is there even that much content in those back channels? I hear a lot of people say that you should use direct radiators for the rears. My options for the surround rears are, 1) SM-450's. 2) Promonitor 1000's or 3) the new SM-45's. I would, of course, like to keep the price down as low as possible. I would imagine that the SM-450's would be the best option for surround backs, but they usually run close to $400 bucks, even on the used market. Would a pair of Promonitor 1000's be close to the SM-450's in terms of performance for those rear channels?

Another option I have for the side surrounds and/or rear surrounds are to purchase a cheap pair of either BP-7006's or a pair of the older BP-2006's. With these, I would loose the seamless soundstage and timbre matching, but I would gain some decent bass in those channels from the powered subs in those towers. If I go this rout, do you guys recommend that I use the towers with the subs in the side surround position, the rear surround position, or both? I am not sure what these even go for on the used market so it might be more feasible to just go ahead and pick up the BP-10b's and keep an eye out of a pair of subs to run in those side and/or rear channels. If I do that, I would have the sub hooked up to the speakers via the speaker terminals on the subs. Something like a pair of HSU vtf-1's might be nice to use w/those.

BTW- I am getting ready to start another BP-30 build! I will be getting the cabinets as soon as I hear from the guy whom posted on here about selling a pair. I am highly considering just assembling one BP-30, and keep the other cabinet in storage. Then I could use the completed tower for a center channel! I have my plasma mounted higher up on the wall and could have a front treo of all BP-30's!

i haven't been watching many movies lately

i just got caught up on mission impossible and captain America last week. 2 awesome movies as far as sound, surround sound and bass

got Thor coming in the mail today from netflix. hope to go see the avengers in imax soon

back in the mid 90s i used bp10s as my surrounds and loved them. that was before i moved up to adding my 2nd pair of bp2000s (then eventually 5 all around for a 6.1 set-up along with my CLR3000) the bp10s will have better bass but a slightly different dispersal pattern. once in a while i put my bp2x's right on top of my side bp2000s and the effect is pretty awesome. if i ever find a pair of bpvx surrounds for the right price i'd love to add them to the craziness but i'm in no great hurry. perhaps you can put your bp1.2x's on top of the bp10s. my receiver has provisions for dual side surrounds so i'm not sure how you would hook up dual sides if you receiver can't do it. if you have pre-outs for the surrounds you could add a cheap stereo amp or even a cheap stereo receiver to power the extra surrounds

of course this is very unconventional but worth trying

and of course the bp10s all by themselves would be quite satisfying as side surrounds. bp10s are awesome speakers

I have 6 BP8s in my 7.1 setup running full range.

Hi Marty,
I agree with Josh. The new SM 45 - 65 are better than the older 350 and 450 by a significant margin. Whichever of these 3 fits your budget is the way to go. Best, Joe

Hello Ferrari,
You have described one of the most popular configurations that we sell. The ProMonitor 800 is a great speaker, and of course the center channel is the most important of the 5 (or 7, or 9...) in a Home Theater set-up. This is a solid system. Just play around a bit with the crossover point to the sub, and invest some time in speaker / sub placement if you can. Let us know how it sounds, Ok? Best, Joe

Hey James McHughes,
We don't have any more socks for the BP3000. Adam and Chet say the 7000 is not a good size match - that sock won't fit. The material used, if you are going to buy some, is double-knit nylon. If you can find someone with a sewing machine and the will to tackle it, it should turn out fine. Good luck with it - Best, Joe

The 18 inch driver on the side obviously requires at least,, well, 18 + inches of width/cabinet depth.. :-)

I'm still amazed at the weight of the 14 inch driver in the 7000SCs. Quite the substantial magnet/motor.

Agree - Mission Impossible was one of the best sounding movies I have heard this year. The independent use of all 7 channels was fantastic. I literally think my heart stopped on one of the explosion scenes - Seatons can have that effect sometimes Thor has some great LFE - you will enjoy it! Let us know what you think....

I am in the process of another upgrade. Selling my surround back Mythos ST's(on Audiogon right now) and moving my BP 7000's to surround back and buying another pair of BP 7000's for front left/right. (BPVX's are being used for surrounds) Also just made the move to separates and got a new Sunfire TGA 7401 (400 watts x7 channels) and Integra 80.3. I already moved the BP 7000's to the back and have everything hooked up except the new pair of 7000's. Unfortunately there was some significant shipping damage and Definitive is in the process of helping to rectify this (they always have great customer service). I have my Mythos ST's back up front filling in for now. They definitely sound better than I remember with the Sunfire. The image is much wider and deeper than before, but still pales to what the 7000's can do. Can't wait to hear the 7000's up front with the Sunfire!

By the way, Avengers was Awesome! I don't know about $600 million awesome, but it was great. We saw it in a theater but may go back again to the local IMAX - now that would be an experience!

Thor was INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i never felt bass like that in a movie before. and the whole soundtrack was crazy. first time i wondered if everything would hold up especially considering the age of everything but it survived

but the LFE was nuts. i felt woozy inside at times. had me thinking the brown note might be real

right now i have 3 of my subs near-field around my chair (which i have done in the past) in preparation for Thor

Thor did seem a tad bright so i turned on the cinema EQ and that smoothed things out nicely in the front 3 channels at least. i only get that with certain movies and the cinema EQ features comes in handy when that happens

Guys I have a mythos STS FL FR mythos ten C and two grm xl doing surround duty, I'm contemplating changing my vsx-1120K SV Receiver and I'm looking into the Denon 3312ci.

But I wanted to read what you guys are using to power these kind of speakers, I love playing xbox, ps3, movies, all kind of music (usually flacs from sacd), but the most use I give the setup is Movies.

I want something with pre outs so in the future maybe I can put a stereo or multi channel amp