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post #26881 of 29303
6/26/12 at 3:06pm
If they are in good condition, pick them up and try. You can sell them back on ebay for 200 or more and can get your money back if you don't like them
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post #26882 of 29303
6/27/12 at 4:20am
Hi All, I am building a Def Tech 7.1 setup for my man cave, and am looking for someone who may have a C/L/R 3000 and/or a pair of BPX or BPVX surrounds to sell or trade. Here is my post, please help this jumped off the wagon HT crackhead get his fix smile.gif: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1417696/defninitive-technology-bp-x-bpx-or-bpvx-and-c-l-r-3000-center/0_100 , thanks in advance for any help or direction! I have seen what I am looking for listed already, but the CLR 3000 on eBay is selling as much as I paid for BOTH of my BP2000TLs, which doesn't seem right, and the seller won't budge, and the pair of BPVXs would run me TWICE what I paid for the BP2000TLs, for which I paid typical used market value I was told ($650 for the pair). From what I have read, those prices on what I am looking forare way too high vs. the used market, so looking for help on more reasonably priced speakers. Also, can anyone help with what the average fair prices are for these items... what I should expect to pay for used, but well taken care of and functioning gear? Past eBay auctions no help except for a pair of BPXs that sold for $375 shipped, but I am really hoping for BPVXs. Thanks in advance for anyone's help!!!
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post #26883 of 29303
6/27/12 at 7:31am
I have a question for some of you....I own the 8060-st's with matching center and im debating on downsizing to 3 studio monitor 65's for my fronts with a sub later on.What are your opinions on this type of setup compared to my current?....I know I would gain bigger driver size but is there any other benifit?....The more I read on hear it seems people favor monitors plus sub than towers and a MTM center.I value any opinions on this...smile.gif
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post #26884 of 29303
6/27/12 at 9:41am
How much to ask for a pair of Reference Supercubes -- have no clue -- am going to attempt to sell them locally as a pair (with boxes and am original owner) and would appreciate what a decent bargain price would be for the pair that would be rated 8/10 due to age. When I say "decent," I really mean it since I have no plans to mess with shipping them and do NOT wish to inflate a price for bargaining -- I don't bargain, just wish to offer a reasonable but attractive price.

[sorry, I am not used to the new format of AVS and started a separate thread under speakers -- meant to post this here on the Def Tech Owners Thread -- did not mean to crosspost]

Thoughts/opinions please

Thanks,

MikeSp
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post #26885 of 29303
6/27/12 at 10:17am
I am curious to hear what you guys think about possibly using a single SM-65 in the center channel position, as opposed to the current c/l/r-2000 that I am using now? (Mains are BP-30's) Is there a monitor in the Def Tech lineup bigger than the SM-65? Just curious. Or I might try a single BP-10b. How do you guys think those combinations would compare?
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post #26886 of 29303
6/27/12 at 11:40am
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How much to ask for a pair of Reference Supercubes -- have no clue -- am going to attempt to sell them locally as a pair (with boxes and am original owner) and would appreciate what a decent bargain price would be for the pair that would be rated 8/10 due to age. When I say "decent," I really mean it since I have no plans to mess with shipping them and do NOT wish to inflate a price for bargaining -- I don't bargain, just wish to offer a reasonable but attractive price.
[sorry, I am not used to the new format of AVS and started a separate thread under speakers -- meant to post this here on the Def Tech Owners Thread -- did not mean to crosspost]
Thoughts/opinions please
Thanks,
MikeSp

mike, sent you a pm
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post #26887 of 29303
6/28/12 at 6:55am
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I am curious to hear what you guys think about possibly using a single SM-65 in the center channel position, as opposed to the current c/l/r-2000 that I am using now? (Mains are BP-30's) Is there a monitor in the Def Tech lineup bigger than the SM-65? Just curious. Or I might try a single BP-10b. How do you guys think those combinations would compare?
Hi Marty, a few thoughts: yes, the SM 65 is the best monitor speaker in the line. Compared to the C/L/R 2000, it retails for less ($450 vs $650) but as it is our current technology rather than an older design, would probably be cleaner and smoother sounding in the mids and highs. But I am not sure it's a real step up as a center. What about trying a CS 8080 HD? With the powered subwoofer, and our current crossover platform, I would think you would hear a real performance upgrade. Thanks for owning DT - best, Joe
Edited by Joe@Definitive - 6/28/12 at 7:02am
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post #26888 of 29303
6/28/12 at 8:13am
Craftyhack- As far as the Definitive Tech center channels go, I have personally owned the c/l/r-2002, c/l/r-3000, c/l/r-2500, and the c/l/r-2000. Of those, I much prefered the c/l/r-2000 as to me it sounded the clearest, and also the most accurate. I personally thought that the c/l/r-3000 sounded a bit muddied and bloated, as I could never seem to get the built in sub to play nice with intergrating into the rest of my setup. What I did, and what I think you would be happier with, is use the c/l/r-2000 for the center channel and also add a seperate, smaller subwoofer to the center channel position. I am using an older HSU subwoofer that is connected via the speaker level connections. I used speaker wire to go from the center channel binding post on my receiver, to the speaker level inputs into the HSU subwoofer, then the speaker level outputs from the HSU to my c/l/r-2000. The difference between doing it like this, compared to the c/l/r-3000, is night and day. Much better then using the c/l/r-3000.


Please note that I also posted this same responce in your thread in the speaker forum. Hope this helps!
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post #26889 of 29303
6/28/12 at 8:19am
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I have a question for some of you....I own the 8060-st's with matching center and im debating on downsizing to 3 studio monitor 65's for my fronts with a sub later on.What are your opinions on this type of setup compared to my current?....I know I would gain bigger driver size but is there any other benifit?....The more I read on hear it seems people favor monitors plus sub than towers and a MTM center.I value any opinions on this...smile.gif



I am just curious as to why you would want to change your current setup? As far as going from the BP-8060's to three SM-65's, I think the main thing that you would loose is the soundstage, depth of the sound, and the imaging. I personally wouldn't do it, but, if I were in your shoes and had to, for what ever reason, downgrade to some bookshelf speakers, I would look into the Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1's. I must admit that I have never heard the SM-65's, but, I have heard the previous generation SM-450's, which I did not like. For me, the main benefits to owning Def Tech speakers, are the affects you get from the fact that they are bipolar. Take that away, and I would probably look else where. Like I said, I have not heard the SM-65's but I must admit that I have heard some really good things about those, and apparently they are a lot better than the previous generation SM-450's.
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post #26890 of 29303
6/28/12 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

I am just curious as to why you would want to change your current setup? As far as going from the BP-8060's to three SM-65's, I think the main thing that you would loose is the soundstage, depth of the sound, and the imaging. I personally wouldn't do it, but, if I were in your shoes and had to, for what ever reason, downgrade to some bookshelf speakers, I would look into the Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1's. I must admit that I have never heard the SM-65's, but, I have heard the previous generation SM-450's, which I did not like. For me, the main benefits to owning Def Tech speakers, are the affects you get from the fact that they are bipolar. Take that away, and I would probably look else where. Like I said, I have not heard the SM-65's but I must admit that I have heard some really good things about those, and apparently they are a lot better than the previous generation SM-450's.

I don't need to downgrade I was just curious about any benifit from going that route.....I love my system and one thing that bothers me is my reciever only putting out 80 watts per channel....I really want to try an xpa-3 with my setup to see what that does.....but with that I would also need another reciever as my pioneer vsx-31 does not have pre outs.
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post #26891 of 29303
6/28/12 at 10:47am
Setting up speakers in a home theater - 16 long by 14 wide, 10 high. Fairly empty room, except for one row of theater seating. Denon 2112CI AVR. Really looking for a wall-mounted solution. Purchased an MLT-2, and it's a nice stopgap, but not quite doing the job for me. I'm considering two following setups:

1. ProMonitor 1000 L/R, ProCenter 2000, 2 ProMonitor 800s (mounted on ceiling - house was pre-wired there), HSU STF-2 or Energy 10.3 subwoofer (Depending on how price-sensitive I am after the other items)
2. Mythos Two L/R, Mythos Three Center, 2 ProMonitor 800s (mounted on ceiling), HSU STF-2 or Energy 10.3 subwoofer

Since the Mythos Two and Three are discontinued models, I can pick them up for about the same prices as the ProMonitor 1000/800 combo. How do the Mythos Two/Three hold up against the Promonitor 1000 and ProCenter 2000?

Oh, and mostly home theater, but some music - not really raucous stuff.
Edited by skater2 - 6/28/12 at 10:53am
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post #26892 of 29303
6/28/12 at 7:27pm
Does anyone have there 7002 or bigger behind an audio acoustic screen? I'm contemplating the idea in my basement, but it seems I would need at least 3 feet from the back wall to the front of the speaker to do this. That is about the distance I have them in my living room, but I have a pull down screen in there so it's not as obvious. Any recommendations would be great. I may just keep them upstairs and just hide the screen and rack in the living room, as the it is a bigger area and has higher ceilings than the basement.
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post #26893 of 29303
6/28/12 at 7:29pm
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Craftyhack- As far as the Definitive Tech center channels go, I have personally owned the c/l/r-2002, c/l/r-3000, c/l/r-2500, and the c/l/r-2000. Of those, I much prefered the c/l/r-2000 as to me it sounded the clearest, and also the most accurate. I personally thought that the c/l/r-3000 sounded a bit muddied and bloated, as I could never seem to get the built in sub to play nice with intergrating into the rest of my setup. What I did, and what I think you would be happier with, is use the c/l/r-2000 for the center channel and also add a seperate, smaller subwoofer to the center channel position. I am using an older HSU subwoofer that is connected via the speaker level connections. I used speaker wire to go from the center channel binding post on my receiver, to the speaker level inputs into the HSU subwoofer, then the speaker level outputs from the HSU to my c/l/r-2000. The difference between doing it like this, compared to the c/l/r-3000, is night and day. Much better then using the c/l/r-3000.
Please note that I also posted this same responce in your thread in the speaker forum. Hope this helps!

Thanks! I have updated my WTB thread to ask for a C/L/R 2000 instead of the 3000, so anyone here have one of those they want to get rid of ?
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post #26894 of 29303
6/29/12 at 4:22am
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Thanks! I have updated my WTB thread to ask for a C/L/R 2000 instead of the 3000, so anyone here have one of those they want to get rid of ?

I've got a CLR2000 and a pair of BP30's that I may be willing to part with (all or separately). Shoot me a PM, but as an FYI we'll be leaving tomorrow morning for a week or so for vacation. I'll have internet access so we can negotiate.
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post #26895 of 29303
6/29/12 at 6:27am
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I've got a CLR2000 and a pair of BP30's that I may be willing to part with (all or separately). Shoot me a PM, but as an FYI we'll be leaving tomorrow morning for a week or so for vacation. I'll have internet access so we can negotiate.


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post #26896 of 29303
6/29/12 at 6:36am
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

I am just curious as to why you would want to change your current setup? As far as going from the BP-8060's to three SM-65's, I think the main thing that you would loose is the soundstage, depth of the sound, and the imaging. I personally wouldn't do it, but, if I were in your shoes and had to, for what ever reason, downgrade to some bookshelf speakers, I would look into the Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1's. I must admit that I have never heard the SM-65's, but, I have heard the previous generation SM-450's, which I did not like. For me, the main benefits to owning Def Tech speakers, are the affects you get from the fact that they are bipolar. Take that away, and I would probably look else where. Like I said, I have not heard the SM-65's but I must admit that I have heard some really good things about those, and apparently they are a lot better than the previous generation SM-450's.
Thanks Marty. The SM 65 is in a much different price point than the SM 450, which is a ten-year old design. SM 65 is a completely different animal. It has a pair of second generation BDSS drivers, rather than one first generation BDSS; a totally different crossover network, several generations newer tweeter, more heavily braced cabinet, sculpted front baffle, a racetrack bass radiator etc. I hope you get to hear a pair sometime soon - they're really good. Best, Joe
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post #26897 of 29303
6/29/12 at 11:54am
Anybody have experiencies with outdoor DefTech AW5500 and AW6500? Are they good? Is there big difference in sound between AW5500 and AW6500?

Thank you very much for your help.
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post #26898 of 29303
6/29/12 at 2:14pm
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Anybody have experiencies with outdoor DefTech AW5500 and AW6500? Are they good? Is there big difference in sound between AW5500 and AW6500?
Thank you very much for your help.

I have the 6500's and like them. I have never heard the 5500's so can't compare them. People have commented on how good they sound.
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post #26899 of 29303
6/29/12 at 3:32pm
SuperCube 2000 gets delivered today, gonna compare it to my ProSub 1000 and 800 today. See if its worth the upgrade....
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post #26900 of 29303
6/29/12 at 4:19pm
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SuperCube 2000 gets delivered today, gonna compare it to my ProSub 1000 and 800 today. See if its worth the upgrade....

I'm a big fan of the Supercube series. You should be fine. smile.gif
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post #26901 of 29303
6/29/12 at 10:02pm
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SuperCube 2000 gets delivered today, gonna compare it to my ProSub 1000 and 800 today. See if its worth the upgrade....

Survey says?
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post #26902 of 29303
6/30/12 at 1:22am
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Survey says?
....says holy crap it's amazing how much sound they get out of this tiny little thing! It's considerably more powerful than the ProSub 1000, tighter and more encompassing sounding. Overall I think it's a VERY worthy upgrade!
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post #26903 of 29303
6/30/12 at 1:33am
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I have the 6500's and like them. I have never heard the 5500's so can't compare them. People have commented on how good they sound.

Thank you very much for your info.

I would prefer AW5500 because AW6500 are too huge for me? Has someone personal experience with AW5500? Thanks.
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post #26904 of 29303
6/30/12 at 5:14am
I'm looking at picking up a pair of 7002's soon, 2 years old.
What's a good price for these? Seems to be perfect condition.
800?
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post #26905 of 29303
6/30/12 at 9:14am
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I'm looking at picking up a pair of 7002's soon, 2 years old.
What's a good price for these? Seems to be perfect condition.
800?
IMO 800 would be a great price if they are in really good condition. I believe some sold here locally for $1000+ recently.
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post #26906 of 29303
6/30/12 at 10:49am
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IMO 800 would be a great price if they are in really good condition. I believe some sold here locally for $1000+ recently.

Those are pretty awesome speakers, if the amps are good, etc. i think $800-$1000 is worthy deal for a pair.
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post #26907 of 29303
6/30/12 at 10:50am
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....says holy crap it's amazing how much sound they get out of this tiny little thing! It's considerably more powerful than the ProSub 1000, tighter and more encompassing sounding. Overall I think it's a VERY worthy upgrade!

Nice, now if only def tech can build these into the powered towers eek.gifsmile.gif
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post #26908 of 29303
6/30/12 at 11:52am
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Nice, now if only def tech can build these into the powered towers eek.gifsmile.gif
OMG, I cant imagine TWO of these things! My living room/kitchen/dining area is about 40x15 and it shakes ALL of it! Got a couple of things that need some bass proofing now! Fix some lite rattles.
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post #26909 of 29303
7/1/12 at 10:17pm
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Anybody have experiencies with outdoor DefTech AW5500 and AW6500? Are they good? Is there big difference in sound between AW5500 and AW6500?
Thank you very much for your help.
I have the same question too. I have a bunch of those Bose "rock" speakers in my back yard and they suck(came with the house, I sure wouldn't pay what I saw those things cost!). On my list to replace them...
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post #26910 of 29303
7/2/12 at 6:07am
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....says holy crap it's amazing how much sound they get out of this tiny little thing! It's considerably more powerful than the ProSub 1000, tighter and more encompassing sounding. Overall I think it's a VERY worthy upgrade!
Hello Ben - I am glad you think so! SC 2000 is an awesome little sub. Best, Joe
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