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post #27001 of 29303
7/25/12 at 9:08am
Mythos Eight, Nine or Ten: should they be set as Large in a receiver since they are "3-way" speakers? I thought Large was only if the speaker had an active subwoofer built in.
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post #27002 of 29303
7/25/12 at 12:36pm
Yes...large should be used on speakers that can produce 20 hz to 20klz...then small for others that don't play very low and set crossover accordingly
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post #27003 of 29303
7/25/12 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

Mythos Eight, Nine or Ten: should they be set as Large in a receiver since they are "3-way" speakers? I thought Large was only if the speaker had an active subwoofer built in.
Just got off the phone with Def Tech tech support and their stance was that since the Mythos Eight, Nine, Ten and XTR series are really 2-way speakers with low end assistance from the passive bass radiators they should be set to Small in the receiver.

I know from the manual that for the XTR's the crossover freq should be 150Hz if they are sitting on a shelf and 120Hz if they are mounted, but I also found out that the Eight and Nine should be set at 80Hz and the Ten should be set at 60Hz.
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post #27004 of 29303
7/25/12 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by StevenC56 View Post

Bought 3 CLR 2002's and a pair of SM 350's for our modest 5.1 system in our open family room. Decent prices on these older models right now, however the stock is quickly drying up. Paid under 1K for all 5 speakers.smile.gif

Congrats! Having those CLR 2002s for the front three should sound very good. What are you using for a sub?
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post #27005 of 29303
7/26/12 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Blasst View Post

Congrats! Having those CLR 2002s for the front three should sound very good. What are you using for a sub?

Just an older Yamaha sub that fit nicely in a niche under the equipment stack. Nothing exciting, but it does OK. This is just our casual TV viewing system anyway-we have a dedicated HT for anything serious.
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post #27006 of 29303
7/26/12 at 11:48pm
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wait...you mean an 8040 tower?...or 8040 center?....for a 100 bucks for a tower is a steal...lol...and I like hearing from owners of the 7000 series that hear the new series and are impressed...makes me feel good knowing I have my 8060 setup...smile.gif...like I said if you got a 8040 tower for 100 bucks I am going to goto bestbuy later today just for shitz and giggles...smile.gif


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post #27007 of 29303
7/27/12 at 7:58am
Hello Snow,
Either the CS 8060 or the SM 65 would work fine for a center channel. As you say, if you already have a powered sub to use with a single SM 65, that's a more cost-effective approach. If you need to buy a powered sub for the center, it is more cost effective to get a CS 8060, which has an 8" bass reproducer with amp on board. Yes, the SM 65 has larger drivers, as it doesn't have the powered sub on board. The CS 8060 has smaller drivers which don't need to go as low, because they cross over to the sub. If you don't mind spending the money, the SM 65 with an outboard sub will be the better pick. I hope this helps - best, Joe
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post #27008 of 29303
7/27/12 at 8:11am
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Tower smile.gif
Hello Dark, yes, you got an awesome deal. That's pennies for an 8040 ST. The 8000 series are really good, especially for their size. One of the keys to that series is the drivers can travel farther than our older ones, which is how we get good low frequency performance from slimmer and smaller cabinets. Good luck and thanks for owning Definitive - best, Joe
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post #27009 of 29303
7/27/12 at 2:56pm
Joe, would my CLR 2000 center channel speaker be able to support a 65lb TV above it? The footprint of the TV base is identical to the size of the 2000.
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post #27010 of 29303
7/27/12 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Cobra5wood View Post

Joe, would my CLR 2000 center channel speaker be able to support a 65lb TV above it? The footprint of the TV base is identical to the size of the 2000.
Oh man! Mount that sucker to the wall! LINK
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post #27011 of 29303
7/27/12 at 3:21pm
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Oh man! Mount that sucker to the wall! LINK

+1

I wouldn't risk it!
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post #27012 of 29303
7/27/12 at 3:21pm
Or better yet, take your pick, today only: LINK
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post #27013 of 29303
7/28/12 at 6:21am
I just wanted to let you guys know that I have a c/l/r-2000 for sale. Ill be posting this in the classifieds later today. I might also be willing to entertain some offers on my beloved BP-30's, it has all new drivers. Still undecided on that one though.
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post #27014 of 29303
7/30/12 at 3:39am
Marty--
Pls check your PM -- I didn't see your CLR2000 in classifieds & I may be interested.
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post #27015 of 29303
7/30/12 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by Cobra5wood View Post

Joe, would my CLR 2000 center channel speaker be able to support a 65lb TV above it? The footprint of the TV base is identical to the size of the 2000.
Hello Cobra, as some of your colleagues have noted, that size TV isn't going to work out well on the 2000. It has good mechanical integrity, but wasn't designed to bear that kind of weight. A 30 lb TV would probably work out fine, but I sure wouldn't recommend anything heavier. Thank you for owning Definitive - Best, Joe
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post #27016 of 29303
7/30/12 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

Sorry if somebody already answered this, but has anyone compared the CS-8060HD to the SM65 as a center channel? I was thinking the larger driver in the SM might be useful on voices, and if the speaker is crossed over to a sub at 80 hz or so, the built in bass unit is less of a selling point. Also, the SM65, if stood upright, is an accurate MTM di'apolito array which should work well for off axis listeners.
So, any takers yet?
Hey Snow and everyone, we have gotten some amazing reviews on the SM 45 and 55, but several of you have asked about reviews on the SM 65. Audioholics has posted a video review of the SM 65 that is a really good example of someone digging into the product - and being thrilled with what they found. http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBOuirxeSRWY&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoBDACOAFAuvzVgAVIAVgAYgVlbi1VUw&cd=xna-qMhhuaE&usg=AFQjCNHw8o43vxt8XiD0iNw0ivurkSZW2Q
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post #27017 of 29303
7/30/12 at 8:21am
I need to re-wire my entire system so I stopped by Best Buy and picked some up. When I got home, I realized I purchased 18 guage wire. Should I take this back and exchange it for a lower guage wire such as 12 or 14 guage? Does the wire guage matter with DefTech bipolars?
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post #27018 of 29303
7/30/12 at 9:19am
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I need to re-wire my entire system so I stopped by Best Buy and picked some up. When I got home, I realized I purchased 18 guage wire. Should I take this back and exchange it for a lower guage wire such as 12 or 14 guage? Does the wire guage matter with DefTech bipolars?[/quot

There are many schools of thought on that subject. On short runs, it really shouldnt matter. I ran 12 ga to all seven of my speakers, even the short ones. I bought all my wire from monoprice.com. You can bet 12 ga there for about what you would pay for 18 at a store.
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post #27019 of 29303
7/30/12 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by Kurolicious View Post

I need to re-wire my entire system so I stopped by Best Buy and picked some up. When I got home, I realized I purchased 18 guage wire. Should I take this back and exchange it for a lower guage wire such as 12 or 14 guage? Does the wire guage matter with DefTech bipolars?
You should, and you should also NEVER buy from Worst Buy and buy all your wire and cabling and wall plates from monoprice.com. Really doesnt make sense to buy from anywhere else.
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post #27020 of 29303
7/31/12 at 6:21am
Can anyone give me some insight on building a 7.1 system for a 16x14 room using Definitive speakers? I have about $2500 to play with. That price includes a sub too. Any ideas???
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post #27021 of 29303
7/31/12 at 7:33am
Hey Steve, there are enough different ways to go that we could take all day... but here's one thought:
2 each SM 55 for L & R $600
4 each SM 45 for surround $800
1 each CS 8060 HD center $699
1 each ProSub 1000 $499
If I did the math correctly, that's $2599, just a bit over your budget. Alternatively you can go for a 5.1 system, drop one pair of the SM 45 surrounds, and move up to the SuperCube 2000 sub at $599, and you'll be right at $2500. This system assumes you'll be using the set up for movies quite often, so I included a really good center channel, but there are loads of variations. Jump on our web site and have fun! Best regards, Joe
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post #27022 of 29303
7/31/12 at 7:47am
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Originally Posted by hey!steve! View Post

Can anyone give me some insight on building a 7.1 system for a 16x14 room using Definitive speakers? I have about $2500 to play with. That price includes a sub too. Any ideas???

Towers or bookshelves? New or used? A little more info will go a long way to getting more specific suggestions.
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post #27023 of 29303
7/31/12 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by laeriq View Post

Towers or bookshelves? New or used? A little more info will go a long way to getting more specific suggestions.

New, I am thinking Towers for the fronts, and I am open for the sides and rears. Although is something else makes sense in that price point then I am good for that also. It's a clean room so my options are very open. Sub doesn't have to be DT, I could go with a BIC if needed. Seating will be towards the rear wall but there will be plenty of space behind to set up the rears.
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post #27024 of 29303
7/31/12 at 8:05am
2 Promonitor 800's $144 each
2 Supertower 8040's $799 each
1 Procenter 1000 $220
1 Supercube 2000 $599

Drop the 7.1, make your 5.1 shine. This is slightly over your budget, but WOW!
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post #27025 of 29303
7/31/12 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by Joe@Definitive View Post

Hey Steve, there are enough different ways to go that we could take all day... but here's one thought:
2 each SM 55 for L & R $600
4 each SM 45 for surround $800
1 each CS 8060 HD center $699
1 each ProSub 1000 $499
If I did the math correctly, that's $2599, just a bit over your budget. Alternatively you can go for a 5.1 system, drop one pair of the SM 45 surrounds, and move up to the SuperCube 2000 sub at $599, and you'll be right at $2500. This system assumes you'll be using the set up for movies quite often, so I included a really good center channel, but there are loads of variations. Jump on our web site and have fun! Best regards, Joe

Thanks Joe, it's going to be almost 100% movies so the better center channel is a great idea.
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post #27026 of 29303
7/31/12 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by jpcamaro70 View Post

2 Promonitor 800's $144 each
2 Supertower 8040's $799 each
1 Procenter 1000 $220
1 Supercube 2000 $599
Drop the 7.1, make your 5.1 shine. This is slightly over your budget, but WOW!
Nice one JP. I personally agree that the 7.1 can come later, and getting a great sounding 5.1 makes good sense. But now I am also thinking that moving up to the ProCenter 2000 makes sense, as it will be movies mostly... which adds another $130 to the ticket. Decisions, decisions...
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post #27027 of 29303
7/31/12 at 9:41am
How does the procenter 1000 compare to the CS8060?
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post #27028 of 29303
7/31/12 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by hey!steve! View Post

How does the procenter 1000 compare to the CS8060?
Ha, Im pretty sure there is no comparison as those two are two very different units. Suffice it to say if you can afford the CS8060, forget the PC1000.
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post #27029 of 29303
7/31/12 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by hey!steve! View Post

How does the procenter 1000 compare to the CS8060?


I owned the PC1000 with my 8060-st towers before I had the money for the 8060-cs center.....the 1000 was a very capable center but compared to the 8060-cs center...the 8060 center knockes its socks off!...smile.gif
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post #27030 of 29303
7/31/12 at 10:17am
Hey guys -

I currently have 2 8060st towers and a HSU VTF-15H sub. I don't have a dedicated HT room so everything is set up in my living room and setting up rear surround speakers is a little tricky. Lately I have been thinking about just adding the CS8060 center, however I am wondering if there is any advantage in doing so for just a 3.1 system?

Also, does anyone know of any good wireless rear speakers that I can go with? is there such a thing? I can have power to the speakers, just cant run speaker cable.
Edited by haroon08 - 7/31/12 at 10:25am
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