or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Definitive Owners Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Definitive Owners Thread - Page 913

post #27361 of 30942
125 wpc should be plenty for these speakers
post #27362 of 30942
Hi there. I am new to AVS forums. Just wondering if anyone out there is a current owner of some BP7000 sc. I currently have BP7001sc and I am debating on getting a pair of them before they become discontinued since I already have everything in the BP series. My current set up consists of BP7001 sc for fronts, CLR3000 center, BP7004 rears, two CLR2300 for surround backs and two supercube 1 subs. The BP7001sc are powered by Emotiva XPA-2 and the rest by XPA-5. I will be moving the 7000sc for mains, 7001sc for rears and BP7004 for backs. Any thoughts? Thanks!
post #27363 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

Hi there. I am new to AVS forums. Just wondering if anyone out there is a current owner of some BP7000 sc. I currently have BP7001sc and I am debating on getting a pair of them before they become discontinued since I already have everything in the BP series. My current set up consists of BP7001 sc for fronts, CLR3000 center, BP7004 rears, two CLR2300 for surround backs and two supercube 1 subs. The BP7001sc are powered by Emotiva XPA-2 and the rest by XPA-5. I will be moving the 7000sc for mains, 7001sc for rears and BP7004 for backs. Any thoughts? Thanks!

Considering the upgrade from the 7001's to the 7000 is in the bass range, I would get rid of the supercubes and upgrade those. Assuming that you're looking to spend $2500-3000 for the 7000's that will get you a whole bunch of subwoofer be it a monster single unit or two really nice dual units. What receiver are you running? If using dual subs you will also benefit from a processor with XT32.

In case anyone is in Maryland (or has the $ for shipping), there was a nice deal on a Def Tech setup today on Audiogon. Just FYI for those interested...
post #27364 of 30942
Currently contemplating taking advantage of the 8060ST deal but I have a few questions/concerns.

My current setup consists of an HK AVR 1600 (45 or 50 watts/channel), 5 NHT Super Zero 2.0 and a Def Tech SC 8000.

The room is 14x13x9 sealed.

Volume wise for movies my AVR can drive the little NHTs to as loud as I want. Maybe I could do with a little more clarity at high volumes, maybe I running out of power.

I think the 8060 system would be huge step up especially since all the speakers in the package are much more efficient than my NHTs.

My biggest concern is placement of the STs. I would need to place them with the backs within 6" of the wall. I can't bring them out any further than that. They would be about 2' from the corners. Is that going to make them sound bad? Or cause any major issues?

The second concern is integrating my SC 8000. It is currently in the front right corner. I could leave it there (it has pretty decent response across the LPs or move it to the left rear corner or left rear third of the wall.

My surrounds are mounted just above ear height and just behind the LPs. How will the DT 8040s work being they're bi-poles or non direct?

Any opinions on how this would work/sound?

Thanks
Gene
post #27365 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

Hi there. I am new to AVS forums. Just wondering if anyone out there is a current owner of some BP7000 sc. I currently have BP7001sc and I am debating on getting a pair of them before they become discontinued since I already have everything in the BP series. My current set up consists of BP7001 sc for fronts, CLR3000 center, BP7004 rears, two CLR2300 for surround backs and two supercube 1 subs. The BP7001sc are powered by Emotiva XPA-2 and the rest by XPA-5. I will be moving the 7000sc for mains, 7001sc for rears and BP7004 for backs. Any thoughts? Thanks!

I have a pair of BP7000SC up front along with a CLR3000. My surrounds are currently a pair of JBL L7 4-way speakers. My back speakers are a pair of DefTech UIW BPZ/A in-wall speakers. Front Wide are a pair of DefTech SM55. Going from BP7001SC to BP7000SC only means SuperCube Reference instead of SuperCube 1. I'm running NO additional subwoofers besides the ones in the BP7000SC. My amp is an Emotiva XPR-5 and is plenty enough for the 5 main speakers. The other 6 height/surround speakers are getting power from my receiver. The dials on my subs are at the 10:30 position, so I'm not even using half of their power. I have plenty of LFE. My main goal with this setup was to match up the drivers across all the DefTech speakers and toy with the idea of a pair of BP-30's to replace the JBL. Lost my job, so I had to give up the idea of getting BP30's.

Most of my media is 5.1 and 6.1 with a handful of 7.1 discs. The height and in-wall speakers hardly ever get used unless I have a full 7.1 disc.

The BP7000SC, CLR3000, BP7001SC, and BP7004 would be a great setup but, like the post above, you might do just as well by just upgrading the stand-alone subs. Main thing would be the cost. You could sell the CLR2300's and maybe one or both of the subs and get some of that back.
post #27366 of 30942
Hmmm now I have something else to think about. I never really thought of upgrading my subs. The supercube 1's are two notches down from the Trinity. So are you guys suggesting replacing both Supercube 1's with 2 Trinity's? I feel that my room is already a little bit bass heavy at times. I just thought the 7000sc would give more headroom and better sound than the 7001sc's especially during two channel audio play back. That and the 7000sc look so bad a$$. Thanks for the help guys.
post #27367 of 30942
Go with an ID sub instead of DT subs, they are just better value.

I recently bought a JTR Captivator S2. It takes the movie experience to a whole other level (I have BP2000TLs and a CLR-3000 on the front, BPVX sides and SM450 heights).

If you can spend 2.5-3K consider cap s2 or an Orbit Shifter. For a bit lower you can pick up a Seaton Submersive, Cap S1 or Ported Cap.

Take a look at the recent North East Subwoofer GTG results thread. DT Supercube Reference was one of the tested subs and none of the participants considered it to be anywhere close to the subs mentioned above.
post #27368 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

Hmmm now I have something else to think about. I never really thought of upgrading my subs. The supercube 1's are two notches down from the Trinity. So are you guys suggesting replacing both Supercube 1's with 2 Trinity's? I feel that my room is already a little bit bass heavy at times. I just thought the 7000sc would give more headroom and better sound than the 7001sc's especially during two channel audio play back. That and the 7000sc look so bad a$$. Thanks for the help guys.

It depends on how much you can get a pair of BP7000SC for. I don't think you would need or want a pair of Trinity subs since you already say you have plenty of bass. You have the two SC 1's in the towers plus a pair of stand-alone SC 1's. The Trinity is just two 14" subs tied to a 2000 watt amp. IF you are looking for more 2-channel sound, then the BP7000SC would be a good option since you would be able to dig lower with the 14" subs in those.

My room is 16 x 15 and I find that the two subs in the towers are plenty for my room. May not be as tight as I want it because the subs are IN the towers, but I'm not picky about getting the most out of the subs in the towers. You're gonna end up calibrating everything at 75/78 dB anyway, so more bass/power just gives you more headroom.
post #27369 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

Hmmm now I have something else to think about. I never really thought of upgrading my subs. The supercube 1's are two notches down from the Trinity. So are you guys suggesting replacing both Supercube 1's with 2 Trinity's? I feel that my room is already a little bit bass heavy at times. I just thought the 7000sc would give more headroom and better sound than the 7001sc's especially during two channel audio play back. That and the 7000sc look so bad a$$. Thanks for the help guys.

If you could get two Trinity's fairly cheap, then they would be fine additions. But if you're not looking to buy used and hunt for a bit, there are many good ID subs that would fit your needs. And a killer sub can be integrated into a two channel setup with good results. A good sub will play several octaves lower than the SC's you have now. As sweet as the 7000's are, the bang for the buck with your setup seems to be in the sub department and possibly the processing dept, depending what you're using in the preamp area.
post #27370 of 30942
Sorry, I mean the rear speakers in to front towers, not the rear surround speakers...thoughts?
post #27371 of 30942
SM450s, new, pair, delivered...$280. Today only. I gots mine!

http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/322769
post #27372 of 30942
Just picked up a ProCenter 2000, can anyone recommend an easy hook-up option? Thanks.
post #27373 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by laeriq View Post

If you could get two Trinity's fairly cheap, then they would be fine additions. But if you're not looking to buy used and hunt for a bit, there are many good ID subs that would fit your needs. And a killer sub can be integrated into a two channel setup with good results. A good sub will play several octaves lower than the SC's you have now. As sweet as the 7000's are, the bang for the buck with your setup seems to be in the sub department and possibly the processing dept, depending what you're using in the preamp area.

I don't think I even know where to look to get Trinity's pretty cheap. As far as using other brands, I have always like to match my gear as much as possible. I know I may be sacrificing a little of bit of performance here and there but things that match keep the wife happy. I think you might be onto something though. Maybe I should look into upgrading my preamp. Right now I don't have a preamp that can correctly calibrate two subs. I am using a Denon AVR4310ci. I keep waiting for something new to come out but I cant really pull the trigger.
post #27374 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

I don't think I even know where to look to get Trinity's pretty cheap. As far as using other brands, I have always like to match my gear as much as possible. I know I may be sacrificing a little of bit of performance here and there but things that match keep the wife happy. I think you might be onto something though. Maybe I should look into upgrading my preamp. Right now I don't have a preamp that can correctly calibrate two subs. I am using a Denon AVR4310ci. I keep waiting for something new to come out but I cant really pull the trigger.

Assuming you have around a 3K budget for upgrades, here's what I would do-

Sell SC 1's and 4310... should be able to get about 1000-1200 total? Maybe?

Grab a Denon 4311 for around 1300

Grab two Rythmik D15SE's in the piano black to match Def Tech speakers for about 2200 or so

Kick back and enjoy

Disclaimer- I have not owned or heard a Rythmik product but I've read a fair amount of their thread and seems like lots of people are satisfied... plus the finish would keep the wife happy:)
post #27375 of 30942
Can anyone recommend a good set of speaker stands for a set of Studio Monitor 350's?? I have a cat and a baby on the way so it need to sturdy on stable. Thanks in advance for the help!
post #27376 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIAS360 View Post

Can anyone recommend a good set of speaker stands for a set of Studio Monitor 350's?? I have a cat and a baby on the way so it need to sturdy on stable. Thanks in advance for the help!

I'd recommend finding some that can be filled with sand to add stability, and that have a broad base plate. Also look into some museum wax or the like to affix the speaker to the stand.

I've had a set of bookshelves on stands in various systems for the last 7 years and my two cats haven't knocked them over yet (knock on wood). Currently I use Wood Technology MU30 stands, but there are several other options that are less expensive as well.
Edited by Snowmanick - 11/10/12 at 11:04pm
post #27377 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDKing View Post

Just picked up a ProCenter 2000, can anyone recommend an easy hook-up option? Thanks.
An "easy hook-up option"? What exactly do you mean by this?
post #27378 of 30942
what stands are recommended for studio monitor 65 and 55
post #27379 of 30942
Namaste Friends!!!

I hope everyone is doing good. I wanted to let everyone is this thread know first. I'm taking offers on a mint pair of black BP 7000sc. They are mint and work great!!! They are way to big for my room. I'm going to move the 7001 up front. I'm in CT. Local pickup. These things are HEAVY!!!


Thanks
Chris
post #27380 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

An "easy hook-up option"? What exactly do you mean by this?

LOL Sorry, probably should have been more specific. I'm thinking about using banana plugs, but can't seem to find a good one that doesn't have a lot of negative reviews. Some are difficult to get the wire through, while others say that they come out easy. Thinking of using a 14 or 16 gauge wire.
post #27381 of 30942
try mono price banana plugs, a lot of users on this forum have used them with great success.
post #27382 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by logicators View Post

try mono price banana plugs, a lot of users on this forum have used them with great success.

I have purchased several items from mono price with very good results. I'm not a fan of their banana plugs. Try nakamichi from eBay.
post #27383 of 30942
Code:
Quote:
Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

I have purchased several items from mono price with very good results. I'm not a fan of their banana plugs. Try nakamichi from eBay.

Couldn't concur more,
The "only" item I have ever complained about from Monoprice were the gold banana plugs. Very poor product - been several years since I tried them thus maybe they have improved however.

I'm not a Monster fan boy yet I find their banana plugs as one of the best. But for the price they should be.

Cheers
post #27384 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

I don't think I even know where to look to get Trinity's pretty cheap. As far as using other brands, I have always like to match my gear as much as possible. I know I may be sacrificing a little of bit of performance here and there but things that match keep the wife happy. I think you might be onto something though. Maybe I should look into upgrading my preamp. Right now I don't have a preamp that can correctly calibrate two subs. I am using a Denon AVR4310ci. I keep waiting for something new to come out but I cant really pull the trigger.

My existing system includes bp7000s l/r, 8080hd center, bpvx surrounds, and bp7000s surround back. I have 2 seaton submersive hps for lfe. I cross all speakers at 60. If you have bp7001s I would strongly suggest upgrading your independent subs prior to your mains. Skip the trinity and look hard at seaton submersive HP or jtr s2. Having upgraded from mythos st to bp7000 and a pair of sc references to pair of seaton submersive hps.....the biggest single impact was the submersives. 7001 and 7000s share same drivers and tweeter, but cabinet volume and height of 7000s are different....and of course subs are equivalent to sc reference. Upgrade would be less noticeable than lfe upgrade. Go for seat on or jtr first and bp 7000s second. Good problem to have!
post #27385 of 30942
Hope this isn't thread jacking and my apologies if this question has been asked many times.

Is there a big difference between the studiomonitor 450s and the new 45s? I listened to the new ones but not sure I can listen to the older model?

Love the 45s but can't really swing the $400. I need to buy a sub too.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks.
post #27386 of 30942
For $400 the SM45 are a great deal in the audio world. Just get these and add a subwoofer later down the road. I've heard SM350 and like the SM45 much more. cool.gif
post #27387 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by yosh7 View Post

My existing system includes bp7000s l/r, 8080hd center, bpvx surrounds, and bp7000s surround back. I have 2 seaton submersive hps for lfe. I cross all speakers at 60. If you have bp7001s I would strongly suggest upgrading your independent subs prior to your mains. Skip the trinity and look hard at seaton submersive HP or jtr s2. Having upgraded from mythos st to bp7000 and a pair of sc references to pair of seaton submersive hps.....the biggest single impact was the submersives. 7001 and 7000s share same drivers and tweeter, but cabinet volume and height of 7000s are different....and of course subs are equivalent to sc reference. Upgrade would be less noticeable than lfe upgrade. Go for seat on or jtr first and bp 7000s second. Good problem to have!

Thanks for the advice. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I feel that I already have too much bass. Either that or my system is not calibrated properly. My current AVR4310 ci that I am using does not have calibration for two subs and I do not have any sub management device. I wanted to go with the 7000sc if they were going to improve the overall sound quality vs the 7001sc. Do you think that my current subs are just not producing good bass? Thanks for you help
post #27388 of 30942
It's more about the quality of bass and less about quantity. 7000 vs 7001 may provide a small gain in quality, but a better sub like submersive or s2 will provide a big leap.
post #27389 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by mconfes View Post

Hope this isn't thread jacking and my apologies if this question has been asked many times.
Is there a big difference between the studiomonitor 450s and the new 45s? I listened to the new ones but not sure I can listen to the older model?
Love the 45s but can't really swing the $400. I need to buy a sub too.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks.

The 450's will have the 6.5" driver while the SM45's will have the 5.25" driver. I'd compare the 450's with the SM55. The NEW Studio Monitors have the 2nd Generation BDSS drivers which are SUPPOSED to be an improvement over the 1st Generation drivers in the 350/450. Considering you can get the 450's all day long for $280 to $320 vs. $600 for the SM55, the slight difference in sound might not be worth twice the price.
post #27390 of 30942
Quote:
Originally Posted by jevans64 View Post

The 450's will have the 6.5" driver while the SM45's will have the 5.25" driver. I'd compare the 450's with the SM55. The NEW Studio Monitors have the 2nd Generation BDSS drivers which are SUPPOSED to be an improvement over the 1st Generation drivers in the 350/450. Considering you can get the 450's all day long for $280 to $320 vs. $600 for the SM55, the slight difference in sound might not be worth twice the price.
Hello Jevans and Mconfes,
Sorry that I haven't been very active here lately, but I am on a Southeast Asia trip supporting our distributors here. We just finished 2 days at the Philippines HiFi Show in Manila and it was a fun event for sure. The Philippine President even stopped by as he's an audiophile.
There is nothing at all wrong with buying discontinued product, as that can be a great way to get nice gear on a budget. But I must say that the SM 45, 55 and 65 are getting some incredible reviews from both consumers and the professional reviewers, as they are a totally new design vs our older 450 and 350. Here's what is new: better tweeter, 2nd generation BDSS driver, completely re-worked crossover, beveled front baffle and front baffle plate, better bracing in the cabinets...
I have nothing against the 350 and 450, but in truth those are 10 year old designs. We have learned a lot in 10 years, and the customer reaction to them has been really good. Thanks for being Definitive fans! Best, Joe
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Speakers
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Definitive Owners Thread