Definitive Owners Thread - Page 918

Due to lack of wall space behind my tv, I'm forced to mount my fronts on the walls on the sides of the tv. How low from the ceiling should I drill the bracket? I can directionally swivel the speaker, but am wondering how high or low I should go. Thanks.

Joe, thanks for your help. I wonder how did people buy speakers before the Internet? There is no way one can audition most of the speakers.

Yep, I certainly saw that being a bit of an issue, so I've got some speakers in the ceiling planned for prewiring. I'll be putting UIW BP/A speakers up there. It would have been nice to get those as a part of the 8060 deal at Crutchfield, but they said no-go when I asked. Instead, I'll probably just go with the 8040 rears free and buy the UIW BP/As separate. Then I'll use the 8040s to either add them in later as 7.1 rears on stands, use them elsewhere in the house, or sell them.

Thanks, Joe. I imagine you've had to tell people that every day for the past year. Sorry to make you do it once again. One more person feeling better about DefTech though. :P

I feel optimum would be to have all three front speakers even across at mid screen/display level. Typically not possible with the center speaker yet I would strive for center display height on the L/R mains etc. IE, place your stands/brackets so your drivers/tweeters are close as possible to center display height. Depending on mounting space and or use for music, you may have to compromise etc.

Cheers

I just bought a whole Definitive HT and am having trouble deciding what options I have given the space I have for my rear speakers (SR-8040s). They say they are only wall mountable, but the problem is my wall behind me is 40 feet behind me and therefore I have to mount them to the side wall or from the ceiling. 2 questions: Is there going to be better sound doing one or the other (ceiling or wall)? And what brackets either by definitive or another company will work with these speakers since they only have wall mount brackets on the back and I don't have a back wall to put them on? I asked 2 different "experts" at BB and they couldn't come up with anything. There may be universal brackets that will work with these that they were trying to sell me, but they weren't sure. This is the only place I trust to give me a good answer. This is my first HT purchase ever, so I'm clueless. I wish I had a picture of the rear of the speaker so you knew what I was talking about.

Typically you can wall mount them to the side walls. You back wall it too far lol. Can you put them on stands in the back?

No I can't do floor stands b/c I have a pool table directly behind the couch. They would get knocked over, also have a dog, and eventually kids. Up Up and away from all these things, including drunk people during parties. So the wall mounts available would really have to articulate to aim them towards me sitting on the couch and these RS-8040's are bulky and I believe 9 lbs each (kinda heavy for rear speakers). Geek squad is going to set it up, but I didn't purchase any mounts and don't know what they are going to have for wall mounts (or what kind of ridiculous price they would charge me). So I'm trying to be proactive and buy them before they set everything up on 12/15. All the wall mounts that definitive make don't say they are compatible with my speakers. I'm feeling like ceiling mounts are going to be best, or at least a wall mount that extends at least 5 inches (which definitive again doesn't make that I saw). frustrating

Current Setup.

R/L - SM 350's
Center - CS-8060HD
Surrounds - BP2X
Sub - SVS PC-12 plus


The SM 450's are on sale, worth the upgrade from the 350's?

Or, how about the SM 55, would they work with the CS-806HD, and assuming better then the SM450's?

TIA

Hello,
Anyone interested in 2 SVS 16-46 passive cylinder subs thet stand 48'' tall they have 12.3 drivers and are in excellent condition. Comes with a Samson SX1200 amp and a ART cessories box to power them.





Edited by JAMES MCHUGHES - 12/5/12 at 7:03am

Finished bracketing and all speakers are hooked up. 4 ProMonitor 1000s, 1 ProCenter 2000, and an older sub cause I'm gonna wait until after the holidays to get a ProSub. After doing an Audyssey setup, my Configuration came out to 50 Hz for the Fronts, 60 Hz for the Center, and 60 Hz for the Surrounds. Aren't these a too low?

Alright, I've done quite a bit of searching and reading through this thread and didn't see a complete answer to my questions so I am resorting to posting them. I apologize in advance if I am asking common questions. I have read plenty of posts about similar topics/issues but I just don't see a full answer.

I have a Denon AVR-4311CI. I just purchased a pair of BP-8060STs, a CS-8080HD, and a pair of SR-8080BPs to replace a pair of Polk M70s, a Polk CS20, a pair of Polk RM8s for my wides, and a pair of RM7s for my surrounds. My room doesn't really allow for rear surrounds so I bi-amped the M70s. I also have two Infinity PS212s.

My questions are about how to best connect the 8060s and 8080 to my 4311's sub channels and whether or not I should use Audyssey's auto-setup with the new Def Techs.

Sub connectivity
Before I decide to sell my two Infinity PS212s I want to see what this new system can do without them. In addition, if it comes to it, I'd like to discuss possible connection options for keeping them too.

So, first off, I have Y adapters ready to go for splitting the sub channels. Without the PS212s, my original thought was to send SW1 via Y adapter to the two 8060s and then send SW2 directly to the 8080. That's easy enough to do to test whether or not there will be enough bass for my tastes.

Second, though, is what to do if I do decide to keep the two PS212s. The easiest thing would be to send SW1 via Y adapter to the two 8060s and SW2 via Y adapter to the PS212s but then I don't have a way to send to the 8080. Is it worth trying to split the SW1 signal via a trio of Y adapters to get the same signal out to the 8060s and the 8080 at the same time and then run the PS212s off of the SW2 channel via Y adapter? Is it even worth sending the sub signal to the 8080 at all? Does it really make a difference in the performance/sound of the 8080?

I honestly don't think I'll feel the need to have the PS212s in addition to the 8060s but I definitely want to see if there is really a benefit to having them prior to just writing them out of the setup altogether.

Audyssey
I have read conflicting posts from folks on this thread about whether Audyssey works or doesn't work with bipolar speakers. What is the general consensus about this? I can definitely set up the system manually with distances and all but I thought one of the reasons for measuring 6-8 locations in the room was to provide the system with a custom, expanded to your listening environment's "sweet spot". Based on the size dimensions of my room I am fairly limited to the placement of my two recliners and they are off to the side so that we can walk in between them to sit down. Placing them side-by-side in the center of the room would not allow enough room on each side of the recliner to get to our seats. It is possible, just not easy.

So, with that in mind, I initially ran the auto setup points in a rectangular pattern to include the width of the seating positions. That means that the width is about the same distance as the room (just smaller) so it wasn't ever going to be perfect but I thought the Audyssey software took into consideration all of the measurement points and then created a summed (for lack of better word) "sweet spot". I may be completely wrong about all of this and am happy to be wrong as long as I learn what it really does and whether or not I need to put any effort into it with these new speakers. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I own the 8060-st's with matching center.In my opinion after owning my speakers a year is you don't need LFE running from your towers and especially your center to your avr...let the speakers do what they do best but of course this will be if you want to are not.Second is I own a pioneer vsx-60 with MCACC and from my experience EQ and room correction don't work properly with bipolar speakers.I run my towers as large with no EQ settings besides distance and my center has an 8 inch sub but I run that small with a 50 or 80 hz crossover depending how I like it.The main thing is try multiple settings and settle on the best to your ears and taste....that's really what it comes down too....

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The 450's would be better speakers, but I don't know how well they would match the 8060 center. I try to keep my front 3 speakers matched, and there is already a driver discrepancy with your current setup; the 350's have 5 1/4" drivers and the center only has 4 1/2" drivers. Switching to 450's without changing the center would just create a larger discrepancy. In practice, they may match and work fine, but on paper, that would be something I would consider. SM55's also have 6 1/2" drivers.

You could get an older center to match the 450's, like the CLR 2000. Though it's massive, it sounds excellent. Or a CLR 2002 would match the 350's

If you stick with your center, you'll have a size discrepancy unless you get smaller L/R speakers. If you can test them out and they sound better to you, then I would do it.
Edited by bradthebold88 - 12/5/12 at 11:02am

Thanks for all that information, now I have to think about my next step.

Need some help from you guys....I just did wire management and wires are clean and organized...upon turning everything on I noticed from my 8060-cs center when I put my ear on top I hear a quick pulsating him from it...Don't remember it before it this common or what could be the situation...if anyone with an 8060 center could test and let me know if appreciate it...you can hear it when nothing is playing...thx guys

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I have the 8060 center, mine makes no hum.

Hmm...I want to find out if this is bad our OK...lol you can hear it on top toward the rear...makes me think its the amp but my tower amps don't do this...anyone else might know?

I have the studio monitor 350s in a 2.1 setup. I'm looking to next get a used clr 2002 as I work my way towards 5.1. However, the clr 2002 is too wide for my tv stand (techcraft swp60). My question is, what's the best way to position the speaker? Placing it under a tv riser does not seem ideal because it places walls around the speaker, including on top where the passive bass radiator is located, and raises the height of the tv. I also can't find any workable options for above the tv. Do I make my own custom shelf that sits on the stand and hides behind the tv or are there other options I haven't considered?

The CLR 2002 doesn't have a passive radiator or anything on top, just drivers and port in the front. I have a CLR 2000 and it seems very durable, I'm sure you could just set your TV right on top of it if you have to, or you could build a frame around and it and put the TV on that. Placing it in an enclosed space shouldn't make any difference though, since all the drivers and port are on the front.

If the new studio monitors work well vertically and horizontally, why not another sm65 for the center channel?

Anyone have pedestal mounts for the Pro Monitor 100's MKII that they want to sell? Def Tech no longer stocks them and I would like to have a set for my speakers. Thanks.

I thought I saw somewhere that it did and was part of being a good match in addition to using the same 5 1/4 in drivers. If it will support the weight of my 50 in plasma, then that certainly works.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-rkbSidwiSDI/p_735CLR2002/Definitive-Technology-C-L-R2002.html

Here is a sock-less picture of it. Mine seems very solid, I don't think it would have any problem holding the TV, especially with the wide base it probably has. You would have to put something very heavy on it to crush the whole box. The center itself weights 29 lbs.

Superb. Now I really hope I win my ebay auction.

edit: accidental double post
Edited by bjaurelio - 12/5/12 at 5:51pm

You would have better luck on craigslist, if you can wait/find one near you. There is one in NC for $150, TX for $150, MA for $115. Ebay is faster and easier though, if there isn't one near you.

You must be a king of craigslist searching. I tried locally in my area and on audiogon before I went to ebay. Those prices are definitely better than what I'm looking at now ($202.50 plus $20 shipping). Hopefully one of those will ship.

If you google all of craigslist, a site will let you search all craigslists. Yeah, I saw those ones on ebay were more expensive, so hopefully one will ship.

So I finally decided to join as I am in the process of getting some decent surround sound. Are the bp10s a good deal for 400 a pair? Seems like it to me but Ive seen three different listing now for them at that price so i'm not sure if it is a good deal or not...this would be 400 for a used pair...

I've never actually heard the old soft dome tweeters, so if they are regular BP10's they are probably pretty old and that might be a little high. If they are BP-10B's with the aluminum tweeter, then I would say that's a decent deal depending on the shape they're in. You can still go buy them new for $1,200.

If they're in good shape, I'd say you probably wouldn't lose any money at least if you ended up not liking them and selling them again.